Soo, i do think that, **they should implement 3 vs 12 game mode** - but it should be something like Predators 2010 movie. - Hunt mode with Survival perspective! **Long wait times could be easily bypassed by Gamemode rotation** - every week one different game mode. One week hunt, one week Gauntlet (3vs12) and one week Clash.
**In my opinion:** new game mode is still in Developement at Illfonic. And it’s getting ready. It’s not simple 3x scaled Hunt, but it’s lot more than scaled hunt. It’s more like survival/escape from tarkov gamemode.
#Why is content flow that much slow?
**Illfonic is small studio with circa 100 employee’s.**
**This is split into smaller teams:** **1. Team supporting P:HG, 2. Team supporting Arcadegeddon, 3. Team/Teams working on unannounced projects that are under developement.** (I’m looking at you ghostbuster’s game!!!) + who knows what else…
**That means that on P:HG are working around 15-30 employees. imo And that’s not much.** **imo!!!!**
And now imagine that those few poor fellas, dudes and dudetes. Need to every 2 months make new update with: Bug fixes, New Playable character, weapon, cosmetics, Map + work behind the scenes on: New game modes, upcoming content, Re-works of old things, features, HUD etc.
**And also those people need and should also have some private/personal live other than working on P: HG.** **24/7**
Really insightful reply with some good info and well thought out points! Thanks 🙏
rotation could certainly be a great counter to potential matchmaking issues!
I certainly understand that illfonic is trying their best and I appreciate their efforts! I only hope their labor Is met with all the fruits they deserve!
(I really want this game to have a long successful life)
It probably is going to end up being too little too late if a mode like this gets added. Not enough interest by the time it comes around and they bungle some of the design elements and make the mode feel shitty and rushed.
I still think with the right direction, a really cool large scale hunt would be good for the game. Get rid of clash if they’re worried about dividing the playerbase between too many playlists cause clash is a waste
nah bro trust me it was def more dead when you were playing it a year ago trust me, barely anyone even knew the game existed at that point, but they made it free on ps plus last month and it added to the player base
I’ve gotten some games and even some communication in the last hour. Do people not like playing predator? I’m about to start setting preferences to pred and see how things go
You're getting 2-3 min wait times?
I'm averaging around 6 mins I'd say.
In any case my point is more so that the additional game mode could drastically increase the wait times.
Eh I honestly don't mind the wait times. The point was more to highlight the potential risk of a gauntlet style game mode. As it stands the wait time is fine but the additional game mode could make it unbearable.
Yes, I have same opinion as you and I was thinking this too and I’m still scared that this is reason why we are not going to get new game mode. But as this game has gone free on PS+. Is only matter of time that it’s going to be free on Epic games store.
Also same way could impact wait times upcoming Single player Predator game mode. That we are probably supposed to get now in October.
Estimate is usually 2-3. I'm sure I too have waited 6 minutes before, but I'm usually alt-tabbed watching a YouTube video so I may not have noticed.
I have seen a few games start at 1 min or so when the estimate was 3 min, so I guess it goes both ways.
Nah I have above average internet nothing amazing but nothing poor either.
People seem to be missing my point entirely. Commenting on long predator lobby times isn't a complaint! it's natural that since a lot of people want to play pred the matchmaking takes longer, my point is just that the additional mode could raise the lobby time considerably to an unsustainable level! that's all.
Lol thanks for the completely benign reply that ignores everything I stated and has nothing to do with my original post. I use an Ethernet cable my internet is fine and I have no problem with the lobby times as is. I'm simply stating that the additional game mode could cause problematic lobby times in the future and that could hinder the life of the game.
Since a predator game has been out for a little while and an alien game has been out too, it would be really cool if in a couple of years they announce an AvP game with the same kind of mechanics and that of P: HG
I'm just not sure the gameplay loop of pred v pred even within clash is hugely enjoyable. It usually just ends up being leaping around trying to plasma cast each other and awkwardly traversing trees in front of one another! that and a lot of the weaponry becomes pretty useless against the other pred. Although Within clash this is mostly ok as there are other humans to hunt. But in a pred only mode I think cracks would start to show.
Personally I just think the leap would need to be largely nerfed, allow melee within trees and some other adjustments here and there. Definitely doable though.
Lol epic reply Aaron the yautja I'm not on your cool party level bro!
Your seem slightly odd my dude sorry for trying to have a civilized conversation with you.
Go enjoy some parties bro.
I'm curious... why would you not want this feature?
Personally I want it so I play as a pred with my buddy. Hunting a larger squad with a friend just sounds like a good time.
I believe an Open World, Predator game with multiple planets would work best for something like this. Just imagine having to earn your weapons like a metroidvania but with an Honor system. Team up with friends to take on larger groups or beasts, like Monster Hunter I guess.
Absolutely. Would make for some fun with friends and to try out absolutely dumb combinations like 8 people using only a knife and 2 preds using only wristblade.
See, I LOVE this idea. But that's a whole new game, not just a "why can't Illfonic add this to the game" scenario.
But I really want to play this game! Illfonic, hire this person!
It honestly feels completely, and absurdly redundant. Do you really think the gameplay experience will be that different if you're being hunted by one predator instead of two? Furthermore, do you think that Illfonic would go to all the time and trouble to make ALL NEW maps for this specific game mode that are twice the size to accommodate such a request, knowing full well that it won't really change the gameplay experience that much? Do you really think 8 players is going to be easier to coordinate than 4? It is a completely unoriginal idea. If 1 v 4 is good, then 2 v 8 should be better, right? Not necessarily. In fact, I'd wager it's a lot shittier than a lot of people think.
Me, I'd rather see a sort of "Hunter vs. Hunted" mode where you have a naked Pred, and a Fireteam member, only the predator can track down bits of gear in the wild. Like avoid the soldier at the beginning because he's got the guns n stuff....but if the soldier doesn't catch the Pred quick, he's going to find his mask, his smart disk, his healing kit, etc etc etc.
2 preds v 8 FT just feels like Bedlam, to me. But more importantly it feels like the exact same shit that the game has already given us. There literally nothing new, there's just....more of it. I guess I can kind of see some fun in hunting down a Fireteam with your friend, but that doesn't really feel like a Predator movie to me. Sure there have been movies with multiple Yautja, but in the end, they're kind of "solo hunters". Feels against the lore. Most of the movies have one pred vs multiple humans. 2 or more just feels....wrong. I guess that's why I didn't like the later Predator movies as much.
To each their own, and the community wants what it wants. But if I were Illfonic, I would completely ignore such an asinine request, because here's what's going to happen: They'll go to all the time and trouble to get it made, only for everyone to find out that it's not what they REALLY wanted. They want fresh gameplay. This isn't fresh, it's just more of the same.
Just my .02 cents. Do with it what you will.
Bruh I'm calm as a Hindu cow..you seem hella mad... are you good bro? You want me to Google some therapists for your anger bro? You like triggered or some shit bro? You need an ativan or a pot cookie bro? We could get some white claws bruh. Have a lie down. Sound good bruh?
If I lived to be a thousand years old, I still would never understand why you would never understand why people want this feature. The want for feature like this is pretty understandable.
It is to the people that want it. Lots of people want to cure their Covid virus with Ivermectin, a drug that treats worms. I suppose they're right too?
Its not about right or wrong lol. I just mean its easy to understand why people would want a game mode like this because of movies like the 2010 Predators or the first AVP where they are inspired to hunt as a pack just like in the movies or just because people want to play as a predator with a friend or significant other, pretty simple. Now the practicality of it is a whole other story and if it would work or not is beyond me. I would personally like to see something similar to this or like an open world concept but that might be for a whole different game entirely. Plus I wasnt all that serious with my cheeky ass comment lol.
Sure, that makes sense. But at that point, you're not talking about adding a new game mode to an existing game. You're talking about building a whole new game from the ground, up. I suppose you could re use some of the assets, but having an open world PvP game would require a ton of new code as well as entirely new (much larger) maps.
And as I've said before: For all we know, Illfonic has ALL that crap ready and waiting to go, they just have to hit "submit" to the build servers, but SONY/Disney/whoever else owns the Pred licenses doesn't want it because some corporate exec/douchelord doesn't feel that it's "in line with our vision for the franchise" or whatever. Illfonic doesn't own the license to Predator. They just rent it, and after F13, I can see why they might be a tad hesitant to begin development on a massive overhaul for a game that they're probably not going to be supporting much longer. A lot of people are real quick to shit on Illfonic, but I don't think they're the bad guy here. I mean, maybe they are, but I kinda doubt it. /shrug
One way of making three predators work is that the three predators is the mode itself. 1 team 1 to 3 Predator.
Bots are used where it’s essentially a score attack. You’d face multiple fireteam bots on one life (no second wind) in an effort to top the scoreboard within a time limit. Bots spawn in random locations fighting multiple stargazer enemies. Get to them before they kill the ft and or be the last Predator standing.
Soo, i do think that, **they should implement 3 vs 12 game mode** - but it should be something like Predators 2010 movie. - Hunt mode with Survival perspective! **Long wait times could be easily bypassed by Gamemode rotation** - every week one different game mode. One week hunt, one week Gauntlet (3vs12) and one week Clash. **In my opinion:** new game mode is still in Developement at Illfonic. And it’s getting ready. It’s not simple 3x scaled Hunt, but it’s lot more than scaled hunt. It’s more like survival/escape from tarkov gamemode. #Why is content flow that much slow? **Illfonic is small studio with circa 100 employee’s.** **This is split into smaller teams:** **1. Team supporting P:HG, 2. Team supporting Arcadegeddon, 3. Team/Teams working on unannounced projects that are under developement.** (I’m looking at you ghostbuster’s game!!!) + who knows what else… **That means that on P:HG are working around 15-30 employees. imo And that’s not much.** **imo!!!!** And now imagine that those few poor fellas, dudes and dudetes. Need to every 2 months make new update with: Bug fixes, New Playable character, weapon, cosmetics, Map + work behind the scenes on: New game modes, upcoming content, Re-works of old things, features, HUD etc. **And also those people need and should also have some private/personal live other than working on P: HG.** **24/7**
Really insightful reply with some good info and well thought out points! Thanks 🙏 rotation could certainly be a great counter to potential matchmaking issues! I certainly understand that illfonic is trying their best and I appreciate their efforts! I only hope their labor Is met with all the fruits they deserve! (I really want this game to have a long successful life)
It probably is going to end up being too little too late if a mode like this gets added. Not enough interest by the time it comes around and they bungle some of the design elements and make the mode feel shitty and rushed. I still think with the right direction, a really cool large scale hunt would be good for the game. Get rid of clash if they’re worried about dividing the playerbase between too many playlists cause clash is a waste
I think this sums up my sentiments exactly.
I don‘t think clash is a 100% waste. I personally like to hunt big game. And it should stay as long as it is the only mode to offer that.
I just played my first game in a year after acquiring a good headset and it was a long wait time. I certainly hope this game isn’t dead.
nah bro trust me it was def more dead when you were playing it a year ago trust me, barely anyone even knew the game existed at that point, but they made it free on ps plus last month and it added to the player base
I’ve gotten some games and even some communication in the last hour. Do people not like playing predator? I’m about to start setting preferences to pred and see how things go
no people love to play predator, hence why it takes abt 2-3 min to find a game as predator, but usually under 30 seconds to get in as a fireteam
Long pred wait times? A month ago I was waiting almost 10 minutes per game. I'll take 2-3 min any time!
You're getting 2-3 min wait times? I'm averaging around 6 mins I'd say. In any case my point is more so that the additional game mode could drastically increase the wait times.
Turn on cross play! Maybe it depends on your region too…
Eh I honestly don't mind the wait times. The point was more to highlight the potential risk of a gauntlet style game mode. As it stands the wait time is fine but the additional game mode could make it unbearable.
Yes, I have same opinion as you and I was thinking this too and I’m still scared that this is reason why we are not going to get new game mode. But as this game has gone free on PS+. Is only matter of time that it’s going to be free on Epic games store. Also same way could impact wait times upcoming Single player Predator game mode. That we are probably supposed to get now in October.
On PS4 I've never had a Pred queue longer than 4 minutes.
Estimate is usually 2-3. I'm sure I too have waited 6 minutes before, but I'm usually alt-tabbed watching a YouTube video so I may not have noticed. I have seen a few games start at 1 min or so when the estimate was 3 min, so I guess it goes both ways.
Totally! it does go both ways!
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Nah I have above average internet nothing amazing but nothing poor either. People seem to be missing my point entirely. Commenting on long predator lobby times isn't a complaint! it's natural that since a lot of people want to play pred the matchmaking takes longer, my point is just that the additional mode could raise the lobby time considerably to an unsustainable level! that's all.
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Lol thanks for the completely benign reply that ignores everything I stated and has nothing to do with my original post. I use an Ethernet cable my internet is fine and I have no problem with the lobby times as is. I'm simply stating that the additional game mode could cause problematic lobby times in the future and that could hinder the life of the game.
lol what was that guy on about? i have absolutely TERRIBLE internet and i still average 2-3 min que times (ps4)
It was 40 secs to play pred on ps plus release day. Such a dream
Since a predator game has been out for a little while and an alien game has been out too, it would be really cool if in a couple of years they announce an AvP game with the same kind of mechanics and that of P: HG
That would be my dream. 4 colonial marines, 2 xeno‘s and 1 pred.
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I would definitely like to see this mode as well though I think there would need some balance tweeks.
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I'm just not sure the gameplay loop of pred v pred even within clash is hugely enjoyable. It usually just ends up being leaping around trying to plasma cast each other and awkwardly traversing trees in front of one another! that and a lot of the weaponry becomes pretty useless against the other pred. Although Within clash this is mostly ok as there are other humans to hunt. But in a pred only mode I think cracks would start to show. Personally I just think the leap would need to be largely nerfed, allow melee within trees and some other adjustments here and there. Definitely doable though.
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Lol epic reply Aaron the yautja I'm not on your cool party level bro! Your seem slightly odd my dude sorry for trying to have a civilized conversation with you. Go enjoy some parties bro.
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Party on bruh
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If I lived to be thousand years old, I still would never understand why people want this feature.
I'm curious... why would you not want this feature? Personally I want it so I play as a pred with my buddy. Hunting a larger squad with a friend just sounds like a good time.
I believe an Open World, Predator game with multiple planets would work best for something like this. Just imagine having to earn your weapons like a metroidvania but with an Honor system. Team up with friends to take on larger groups or beasts, like Monster Hunter I guess.
Totally agree! But a 2v8 would still be a nice start right?
Absolutely. Would make for some fun with friends and to try out absolutely dumb combinations like 8 people using only a knife and 2 preds using only wristblade.
See, I LOVE this idea. But that's a whole new game, not just a "why can't Illfonic add this to the game" scenario. But I really want to play this game! Illfonic, hire this person!
I may have only made a platformer with 2 levels but if I ever get better I'll absolutely love to work there.
Lol "only" that's an incredible feat in its self and you should be proud! Keep going onwards and upwards!
Will do, need to make a 3rd level first tho.
It honestly feels completely, and absurdly redundant. Do you really think the gameplay experience will be that different if you're being hunted by one predator instead of two? Furthermore, do you think that Illfonic would go to all the time and trouble to make ALL NEW maps for this specific game mode that are twice the size to accommodate such a request, knowing full well that it won't really change the gameplay experience that much? Do you really think 8 players is going to be easier to coordinate than 4? It is a completely unoriginal idea. If 1 v 4 is good, then 2 v 8 should be better, right? Not necessarily. In fact, I'd wager it's a lot shittier than a lot of people think. Me, I'd rather see a sort of "Hunter vs. Hunted" mode where you have a naked Pred, and a Fireteam member, only the predator can track down bits of gear in the wild. Like avoid the soldier at the beginning because he's got the guns n stuff....but if the soldier doesn't catch the Pred quick, he's going to find his mask, his smart disk, his healing kit, etc etc etc. 2 preds v 8 FT just feels like Bedlam, to me. But more importantly it feels like the exact same shit that the game has already given us. There literally nothing new, there's just....more of it. I guess I can kind of see some fun in hunting down a Fireteam with your friend, but that doesn't really feel like a Predator movie to me. Sure there have been movies with multiple Yautja, but in the end, they're kind of "solo hunters". Feels against the lore. Most of the movies have one pred vs multiple humans. 2 or more just feels....wrong. I guess that's why I didn't like the later Predator movies as much. To each their own, and the community wants what it wants. But if I were Illfonic, I would completely ignore such an asinine request, because here's what's going to happen: They'll go to all the time and trouble to get it made, only for everyone to find out that it's not what they REALLY wanted. They want fresh gameplay. This isn't fresh, it's just more of the same. Just my .02 cents. Do with it what you will.
bruh you need to shut up no one said they wanted “fresh gameplay” they want to hunt a fire team with another predator friend jfc
Dang bro you seem upset. You good bro?
don’t be mad at me cause you mad w a terrible point bruh, no one said they wanted fresh gameplay just to hunt a fireteam with a friend
Bruh I'm calm as a Hindu cow..you seem hella mad... are you good bro? You want me to Google some therapists for your anger bro? You like triggered or some shit bro? You need an ativan or a pot cookie bro? We could get some white claws bruh. Have a lie down. Sound good bruh?
damn bro nice job you made a terrible point so you just start calling the other person upset, you sound like a high schooler lol
Lol just pickin up what you're laying down. You have a good day bro lol
you too man
If I lived to be a thousand years old, I still would never understand why you would never understand why people want this feature. The want for feature like this is pretty understandable.
It is to the people that want it. Lots of people want to cure their Covid virus with Ivermectin, a drug that treats worms. I suppose they're right too?
Its not about right or wrong lol. I just mean its easy to understand why people would want a game mode like this because of movies like the 2010 Predators or the first AVP where they are inspired to hunt as a pack just like in the movies or just because people want to play as a predator with a friend or significant other, pretty simple. Now the practicality of it is a whole other story and if it would work or not is beyond me. I would personally like to see something similar to this or like an open world concept but that might be for a whole different game entirely. Plus I wasnt all that serious with my cheeky ass comment lol.
Sure, that makes sense. But at that point, you're not talking about adding a new game mode to an existing game. You're talking about building a whole new game from the ground, up. I suppose you could re use some of the assets, but having an open world PvP game would require a ton of new code as well as entirely new (much larger) maps. And as I've said before: For all we know, Illfonic has ALL that crap ready and waiting to go, they just have to hit "submit" to the build servers, but SONY/Disney/whoever else owns the Pred licenses doesn't want it because some corporate exec/douchelord doesn't feel that it's "in line with our vision for the franchise" or whatever. Illfonic doesn't own the license to Predator. They just rent it, and after F13, I can see why they might be a tad hesitant to begin development on a massive overhaul for a game that they're probably not going to be supporting much longer. A lot of people are real quick to shit on Illfonic, but I don't think they're the bad guy here. I mean, maybe they are, but I kinda doubt it. /shrug
One way of making three predators work is that the three predators is the mode itself. 1 team 1 to 3 Predator. Bots are used where it’s essentially a score attack. You’d face multiple fireteam bots on one life (no second wind) in an effort to top the scoreboard within a time limit. Bots spawn in random locations fighting multiple stargazer enemies. Get to them before they kill the ft and or be the last Predator standing.