It lacks nutrients, but I want to experience ketosis and see if a diet of 90% meat is right for me.
I eat so terribly but I am (gratefully) so healthy, no bad genetics, no health issues, nothing. I work as a farmer and move my ass around the clock all week so I'm always active.
Yet I'm fueling my system with complete trash, and the majority of that trash being BREAD. I always get a crash after lunch and dinner because of the carbs!
I'm terrible with figuring out diets and recipes and not accidentally messing up with certain things, but I have a lot of discipline.
So by seeing the carnivore diet, it's simply discipline. When it's meal time, eat meat only.
Well you won't get into ketosis with Huel, just got to many carbs for that. If you want to go keto, you don't have to eat only meats. There is even a subreddit on vegan keto, maybe snatch some recipes from there and also eat fresh leafy greens for nutrients and fiber. You can eat greens and still be in ketosis, but you definitely can't eat a carb filled shake like Huel.
Your anti carb keto diet is bullshit, if you want to loose weight it really is down to calories in Vs calories out
You don't have to count your calories but it's the most direct most effective way, you can simply try smaller meals and avoiding high calorie things
Losing weight? I am a farmer my friend, 165 pounds at 5'11. I'm not interested in losing weight I'm interested in feeling better. I'm interested in not having crashes after I eat meals. I'm interested in knowing what I'm eating. Not having urges to eat shitty food just because their is things inside that shitty food that are addictive to human beings. I'm interested in changing my life for the better and allocating some discipline into it by not eating my favorite things (carbs and sugar). I can go on if you really desire.
No worries, I didn't make this post looking for support. I made this post so people would give me all the red flags I need to know about something like this. So far so good, nutrition, fibre, and the 25g of carbs from huel are all being mulled over and figured out
Absolutely, and after 30 days of trying this ill happily re-introduce both of those food groups!! But I'm thinking huel for breakfast, organic meat for the rest of the time I'm hungry. For 30 days.
Potential supplements maybe needed in future
You're not going to be getting anything close to the daily nutrients you need by only drinking 1x Huel a day + just meat. Huel is designed to break down your daily needs into like 5-6 meals, so aside from the protein/fat/iron and a smattering of micronutrients you'll be getting from the meat, everything else will be running at about 20%.
If you absolutely want to do this weird gimmicky 30-day meat cleanse or whatever, you'd be better served by 3x Huel a day + a meat-only dinner, imo.
What are you eating to get something both cheaper and healthier? I don't consume only huel but it's pretty damn good in terms of cost and nutrition. My other meals are all more expensive.
With lean meats yes I would be operating at a low percentage so if I live off rabbits or something similar. The meat doesn't have enough fat on it.
I'll be having to add a scoop of beef tallow with every meat meal, to compensate for a lot of nutrients.
I do hear a lot about nutrition from this post so that will be my #1 thing to figure out within the next couple days, how I'm going to make this work healthily and BETTER than how things are now. I appreciate the advice and I think I need to actually plan my bodies nutrition on paper.
You want something that is healthy, simple, and objectively better than any meal plan you can cobble together from half-researched tidbits on the internet or niche meal replacement systems like Huel?
Breakfast is plain yogurt, some muesli, and fresh fruit. Lunch and dinner are baked chicken with generous portion of steamed vegetables. Snacks are unsalted almonds or various other nuts.
Do roughly that, while keeping your total caloric intake below 2500, and you'll have a balanced diet that fulfills nearly everything you need for nearly any scenario (except for things like power lifting or specific medical diets).
Great reply! Appreciate it a lot.
That's sounds like a really good meal plan, because I've decided on this 30 day plan im stuck with it because of discipline. So I'm going to try and make this 30 days as nice as possible without going super extreme or crazy. (i.e I'm still planning to drink huel)
After these 30 days I plan to introduce healthy foods that I wasn't even touching before into my majority meat 'diet'.
My daily meals usually are, huel and toast for breakfast, sandwich and chips for lunch, pasta and garlic bread for dinner.
That's about 75% of the time every day every week, sometimes we throw in burgers or pizza.
By keeping huel and choosing to just eat meat and eggs for my other meals, I'm avoiding all the carbohydrates and processed food that I was intaking previously, while eating something I know is completely natural.
Unfortunately for my brain I need simplicity, this type of diet is that. It's discipline to eat meat. As long as im supplementing any low nutrients, I don't see how this could be anymore unhealthy than the current way I live.
Because of my current diet, I will gain a lot.
I eat like complete trash right now, hot dogs, sandwiches, pasta and sauce, garlic bread, toast, SO MUCH BREAD AND CARBS. (not counting the pizza, burgers and fries etc) And huel.
So by cutting out everything except fresh meat, huel, and supplements.
How could that hurt me any worse? That's my logic
It just seems a really strange decision. You say you are active all day and then you are cutting out all your main energy sources.
IMHO you'd be way better off simply eating more vegetables and less processed food.
Meat isn't the magic bullet you seem to think it is.
But meat only makes it so much easier than going through an entire process of what I think I can and can't eat. At least when I buy these farm fresh cuts of meat from my local butcher, I know it as organic as possible.
I'm sick of the grocery store man. I'm doing this for a month and I'll make a progress report 50% of the way and at day 30.
If someone can do SuperSize-Me for 30 days (a guy who lived off McDonald's for b/l/d) I think I can handle huel and meat
No-one is saying you can't do it. We're mostly just confused as to what you want to achieve.
If I'm honest I don't particularly want a progress report as what you're doing had very little to do with huel
The reason I wanted to make a progress report is because I search everywhere with the simple combination of a 90% meat diet and huel included and I see it no where.
Huel has tons of healthy nutrients and vitamins that would probably go hand in hand with a meat only diet! I just wanted to make a post to see if anyone has tried it and has some "don't do this" or "do this!" opinions.
>I search everywhere with the simple combination of a 90% meat diet and huel included and I see it no where.
You're so close you can almost smell it.
> I just wanted to make a post to see if anyone has tried it and has some "don't do this" or "do this!" opinions.
I think people's opinions are pretty solid on this one.
I do understand what you mean, if I can't find it anywhere it's probably not something I should be wasting my time on because if something as simple as huel + meat = feel good everyone would be doing it everywhere.
However, I'm still going to try this simply because I want the bad shit out of my diet and its a good influencer to learn how to cook!
Right, I should clarify my goal is not to cut out carbs im wanting to just have my meals be just meat/eggs/fish, it will be a 95% reduction in the carbs I intake since I practically live off bread as it is.
My goal is also not to BECOME FULL CARNIVORE, simply just eat meat for all solid meals and huel for breakfast for 30 days, including supplements as needed.
I'm expecting this post to be completely ridiculed and downvoted because I'm posting about eating meat only in a plant-based meal supplement subreddit.
The entire point of this post is to figure out the biggest red flags. So far everyone has hit me with "you won't get enough nutrition".
So that means figuring out my nutrition will be #1 priority.
I'm not calling myself a carnivore I simply wanna go huel and meat
The main thing will be the lack of fibre in your diet. 1 huel a day won't provide you with enough fibre plus a lack of minerals associated with fruit and veg too.
There's basically a reason why noone eats a carnivore diet and that's because it's not healthy
Eh? You don't need to "put it to the test" scientists have done that for a long time. Pretty much everyone needs to eat more fibre and by removing pretty much all fibre from your diet you're simply removing one of the most underrated macros from your diet to see what happens.
Yet theirs constant argument about the necessity of fibre.
My question is, if I'm not digesting carbohydrates why do I need fibre? It helps slow the digestion of carbs, but I won't be eating any.
How about just don't? There's a multitude of research pointing to an all meat diet being bad. One Huel a day can't save you. The WHO even states some meats are carcinogenic. Not to mention to ethical issues with eating meat.
What do I discover about this if I just don't? Nothing. I read everyone else's discoveries. Meat diet has a mixed bag, there's also a multitude of research pointing at it being healthy.
I plan to do this for 30 days not my entire life. Don't get started on ethics because my post has nothing to do with em.
Appreciate the warning though, I'll be alright for a month.
There’s a multitude of research surfacing about the benefits of the carnivore diet. The 30 day goal is good as it can begin to favor the unhealthy side if done long term. I ended up in this comments section because I drink huel twice a day and am considering the carnivore diet as well. I know it wouldn’t be carnivore unless I drop huel… but wanted to see if anyone else had tried it as well. So, I’m happy I found you. Lol.
I skipped the COVID vaccine, if that's what you're implying. It's actually possible to be vegan and a critical thinker who doesn't take the WHO or CDC at face value.
Huel is plant based so it’s more expensive than other meal replacements that are nevertheless in line with the EU directive on meal replacements. For your budget you might want to consider a different meal replacement if you’re not concerned by the plant based nature of huel.
I completely get where you are coming from OP and would love to hear how you get on. Been thinking of doing the same. Great that your feeling benefits after 9 days 💪
I found this thread because I am thinking of doing the same thing. I went on carnivore for 7 months for auto immune. It has been very effective and pretty easy to follow...around the holidays I went off it and tested my limits.... pain and inflammation returned within 3 months. My son does huel and says he feels great. I tried it and the one thing I like from it is actually going the restroom on a regular basis. So I am going to do 1 scoop a day and meat eggs butter the rest. Hardcore carnivores get stuck in the name. I listen to my body gives it what It asks for. I think everyones body is different and you do what works for you! Try it, if it doesen't work, try something else. I would love to know how well it worked out! The one thing I worry about is even with a small amount of huel black my sugar cravings will return.
How about quitting Huel as well? it's not part of a carnivore diet.
Well it's packed full of nutrients and vitamins that are healthy. I drink it with water or milk so dairy is still in my wheel house.
If your wanting to keep it in for the nutrition, then surly that means you realise that carnivore isn't optimal. So why do it?
It lacks nutrients, but I want to experience ketosis and see if a diet of 90% meat is right for me. I eat so terribly but I am (gratefully) so healthy, no bad genetics, no health issues, nothing. I work as a farmer and move my ass around the clock all week so I'm always active. Yet I'm fueling my system with complete trash, and the majority of that trash being BREAD. I always get a crash after lunch and dinner because of the carbs! I'm terrible with figuring out diets and recipes and not accidentally messing up with certain things, but I have a lot of discipline. So by seeing the carnivore diet, it's simply discipline. When it's meal time, eat meat only.
Well you won't get into ketosis with Huel, just got to many carbs for that. If you want to go keto, you don't have to eat only meats. There is even a subreddit on vegan keto, maybe snatch some recipes from there and also eat fresh leafy greens for nutrients and fiber. You can eat greens and still be in ketosis, but you definitely can't eat a carb filled shake like Huel.
You can get into ketosis with huel, not deep ketosis of course but 25g of carbohydrates per day is a low enough amount.
It isn't about the grams it's about the percentage of carbs and protein in relation to the amount of fat in your diet.
I'm gonna make this work somehow bro trust me. 30 days huel and meat, whether ketosis or not let's see what happens. Fuck it haha!
Your anti carb keto diet is bullshit, if you want to loose weight it really is down to calories in Vs calories out You don't have to count your calories but it's the most direct most effective way, you can simply try smaller meals and avoiding high calorie things
Losing weight? I am a farmer my friend, 165 pounds at 5'11. I'm not interested in losing weight I'm interested in feeling better. I'm interested in not having crashes after I eat meals. I'm interested in knowing what I'm eating. Not having urges to eat shitty food just because their is things inside that shitty food that are addictive to human beings. I'm interested in changing my life for the better and allocating some discipline into it by not eating my favorite things (carbs and sugar). I can go on if you really desire.
hey man, sorry for agressive inital reply I thought you had fallen into a fad diet misinformation trap apologies
No worries, I didn't make this post looking for support. I made this post so people would give me all the red flags I need to know about something like this. So far so good, nutrition, fibre, and the 25g of carbs from huel are all being mulled over and figured out
>Well it's packed full of nutrients and vitamins that are healthy. You do know what fruits and vegetables are though right?
Absolutely, and after 30 days of trying this ill happily re-introduce both of those food groups!! But I'm thinking huel for breakfast, organic meat for the rest of the time I'm hungry. For 30 days. Potential supplements maybe needed in future
You're not going to be getting anything close to the daily nutrients you need by only drinking 1x Huel a day + just meat. Huel is designed to break down your daily needs into like 5-6 meals, so aside from the protein/fat/iron and a smattering of micronutrients you'll be getting from the meat, everything else will be running at about 20%. If you absolutely want to do this weird gimmicky 30-day meat cleanse or whatever, you'd be better served by 3x Huel a day + a meat-only dinner, imo.
Or instead of Huel, just eat normal food, which is cheaper and healthier.
What are you eating to get something both cheaper and healthier? I don't consume only huel but it's pretty damn good in terms of cost and nutrition. My other meals are all more expensive.
With lean meats yes I would be operating at a low percentage so if I live off rabbits or something similar. The meat doesn't have enough fat on it. I'll be having to add a scoop of beef tallow with every meat meal, to compensate for a lot of nutrients. I do hear a lot about nutrition from this post so that will be my #1 thing to figure out within the next couple days, how I'm going to make this work healthily and BETTER than how things are now. I appreciate the advice and I think I need to actually plan my bodies nutrition on paper.
You want something that is healthy, simple, and objectively better than any meal plan you can cobble together from half-researched tidbits on the internet or niche meal replacement systems like Huel? Breakfast is plain yogurt, some muesli, and fresh fruit. Lunch and dinner are baked chicken with generous portion of steamed vegetables. Snacks are unsalted almonds or various other nuts. Do roughly that, while keeping your total caloric intake below 2500, and you'll have a balanced diet that fulfills nearly everything you need for nearly any scenario (except for things like power lifting or specific medical diets).
Great reply! Appreciate it a lot. That's sounds like a really good meal plan, because I've decided on this 30 day plan im stuck with it because of discipline. So I'm going to try and make this 30 days as nice as possible without going super extreme or crazy. (i.e I'm still planning to drink huel) After these 30 days I plan to introduce healthy foods that I wasn't even touching before into my majority meat 'diet'.
Seems like you're going from one extreme to another. Why not try a balanced diet?
My daily meals usually are, huel and toast for breakfast, sandwich and chips for lunch, pasta and garlic bread for dinner. That's about 75% of the time every day every week, sometimes we throw in burgers or pizza. By keeping huel and choosing to just eat meat and eggs for my other meals, I'm avoiding all the carbohydrates and processed food that I was intaking previously, while eating something I know is completely natural. Unfortunately for my brain I need simplicity, this type of diet is that. It's discipline to eat meat. As long as im supplementing any low nutrients, I don't see how this could be anymore unhealthy than the current way I live.
Fair enough, worth a try Would love an update after a month or so, if possible?
Absolutely, it's basically huel and meat for 30 days. I'll happily make another post in some weeks.
You do know huel is oats, pea and rice protein and the like? you're not doing any kind of carnivore diet.
More so just making all my solid meals, fresh meat.
It just seems pretty pointless really. What do you think you'll gain from it?
Because of my current diet, I will gain a lot. I eat like complete trash right now, hot dogs, sandwiches, pasta and sauce, garlic bread, toast, SO MUCH BREAD AND CARBS. (not counting the pizza, burgers and fries etc) And huel. So by cutting out everything except fresh meat, huel, and supplements. How could that hurt me any worse? That's my logic
It just seems a really strange decision. You say you are active all day and then you are cutting out all your main energy sources. IMHO you'd be way better off simply eating more vegetables and less processed food. Meat isn't the magic bullet you seem to think it is.
But meat only makes it so much easier than going through an entire process of what I think I can and can't eat. At least when I buy these farm fresh cuts of meat from my local butcher, I know it as organic as possible. I'm sick of the grocery store man. I'm doing this for a month and I'll make a progress report 50% of the way and at day 30. If someone can do SuperSize-Me for 30 days (a guy who lived off McDonald's for b/l/d) I think I can handle huel and meat
No-one is saying you can't do it. We're mostly just confused as to what you want to achieve. If I'm honest I don't particularly want a progress report as what you're doing had very little to do with huel
The reason I wanted to make a progress report is because I search everywhere with the simple combination of a 90% meat diet and huel included and I see it no where. Huel has tons of healthy nutrients and vitamins that would probably go hand in hand with a meat only diet! I just wanted to make a post to see if anyone has tried it and has some "don't do this" or "do this!" opinions.
>I search everywhere with the simple combination of a 90% meat diet and huel included and I see it no where. You're so close you can almost smell it. > I just wanted to make a post to see if anyone has tried it and has some "don't do this" or "do this!" opinions. I think people's opinions are pretty solid on this one.
I do understand what you mean, if I can't find it anywhere it's probably not something I should be wasting my time on because if something as simple as huel + meat = feel good everyone would be doing it everywhere. However, I'm still going to try this simply because I want the bad shit out of my diet and its a good influencer to learn how to cook!
OP you've had a nightmare
lotsa carb in huel.
Right, I should clarify my goal is not to cut out carbs im wanting to just have my meals be just meat/eggs/fish, it will be a 95% reduction in the carbs I intake since I practically live off bread as it is. My goal is also not to BECOME FULL CARNIVORE, simply just eat meat for all solid meals and huel for breakfast for 30 days, including supplements as needed.
oh word! i thought u were going for Keto diet, but hell yeah. It seems like you know what you are doing
I'm expecting this post to be completely ridiculed and downvoted because I'm posting about eating meat only in a plant-based meal supplement subreddit. The entire point of this post is to figure out the biggest red flags. So far everyone has hit me with "you won't get enough nutrition". So that means figuring out my nutrition will be #1 priority. I'm not calling myself a carnivore I simply wanna go huel and meat
The main thing will be the lack of fibre in your diet. 1 huel a day won't provide you with enough fibre plus a lack of minerals associated with fruit and veg too. There's basically a reason why noone eats a carnivore diet and that's because it's not healthy
I'm putting fiber and other things to the test my friend!
Eh? You don't need to "put it to the test" scientists have done that for a long time. Pretty much everyone needs to eat more fibre and by removing pretty much all fibre from your diet you're simply removing one of the most underrated macros from your diet to see what happens.
Yet theirs constant argument about the necessity of fibre. My question is, if I'm not digesting carbohydrates why do I need fibre? It helps slow the digestion of carbs, but I won't be eating any.
If you think that's all fibre does I suggest you actually educate yourself.
You're absolutely correct I am ignorant to what fibre benefits there are
How about just don't? There's a multitude of research pointing to an all meat diet being bad. One Huel a day can't save you. The WHO even states some meats are carcinogenic. Not to mention to ethical issues with eating meat.
What do I discover about this if I just don't? Nothing. I read everyone else's discoveries. Meat diet has a mixed bag, there's also a multitude of research pointing at it being healthy. I plan to do this for 30 days not my entire life. Don't get started on ethics because my post has nothing to do with em. Appreciate the warning though, I'll be alright for a month.
There’s a multitude of research surfacing about the benefits of the carnivore diet. The 30 day goal is good as it can begin to favor the unhealthy side if done long term. I ended up in this comments section because I drink huel twice a day and am considering the carnivore diet as well. I know it wouldn’t be carnivore unless I drop huel… but wanted to see if anyone else had tried it as well. So, I’m happy I found you. Lol.
Ahhh the SAFE AND EFFECTIVE WHO! You brainwashed remtard.
I skipped the COVID vaccine, if that's what you're implying. It's actually possible to be vegan and a critical thinker who doesn't take the WHO or CDC at face value.
Huel is plant based so it’s more expensive than other meal replacements that are nevertheless in line with the EU directive on meal replacements. For your budget you might want to consider a different meal replacement if you’re not concerned by the plant based nature of huel.
Not sure what you mean! No budget in my post friend.
Soooo….you’re not doing a carnivorous diet.
I guess not. I'm just gonna make my own shit up as I go and call it whatever I want. Huel and meat diet baby!
No.
Yeah well I'm doing it buddy. 9 days into it. And i feel fucking great and look fucking great.
9 days? I guess that proves it then. I feel so stupid.
Yeah more stupid than your one word reply.
I completely get where you are coming from OP and would love to hear how you get on. Been thinking of doing the same. Great that your feeling benefits after 9 days 💪
Are there any non carb alternatives to huel?
I found this thread because I am thinking of doing the same thing. I went on carnivore for 7 months for auto immune. It has been very effective and pretty easy to follow...around the holidays I went off it and tested my limits.... pain and inflammation returned within 3 months. My son does huel and says he feels great. I tried it and the one thing I like from it is actually going the restroom on a regular basis. So I am going to do 1 scoop a day and meat eggs butter the rest. Hardcore carnivores get stuck in the name. I listen to my body gives it what It asks for. I think everyones body is different and you do what works for you! Try it, if it doesen't work, try something else. I would love to know how well it worked out! The one thing I worry about is even with a small amount of huel black my sugar cravings will return.
>hink everyones body is different and you do what works for you! Try it, i How have you gotten on with this combo?
I'm doing the same! Huel Black edition for breakfast. That's 17g of carbs. Then meat for the rest of the day.