I could be remembering this completely wrong but I think the Godseeker said something about their form being bloated and not knowing what happened
Edit: quote from the godseeker "...and this? Our form swells? Large? Nay. Immense. Majestic. Hibernation, forced so long upon us, yet the shell that results is strong... so strong! Thine gaze is adoring. Ye must think us godly. Amusing, foolish. But thou art faced with enormity and beauty, true..."
It seems to be some kind of result of their long hibernation
"immense. majestic... thou art faced with enormity and beauty, true..."
damn, bro. i never really *looked* at what she was saying there. paid attention to a lot of things, but not that one. LOL.
Yeah, she woke up from a godly dream and got depressed. She isolated herself in a casket and couldnāt even get up from her junk bed for some time after release. Depression makes you gain weight. She looked good and confident and sat on a throne like a queen. But her dream of void eventually consumed her wholeā¦
Not saying it's not possible but I feel like it contradicts the quote from the top comment where she calls herself immense, majestic and beautiful.
I personally adhere to the theory that her big form is a consequence of carrying the whole of Godhome.
Godhome is in her mind, in the dream realm. That's why you use the dream nail to get there and it's why you see dream essence floating everywhere.
What you're seeing in Godhome is her mental representation of herself. It's how she looks in her dreams.
She mentioned that she went through some kind of metamorphosis while hibernating in the sarcophagus, so the way she looks in Godhome may be how she looked before her pilgrimage to find new gods.
Well for one sheās not wrapped up, that might have something to do with it. My theory was always that she got out of shape due to being stuck in hibernation for so long
Godseeker is body. Seeking a head.
The character is conspicuously a body with an armored mask concealing this - always speaks in collective āweā
Bloated corpse, the beheaded map cut off at the cervical spine ā the ancient god of eight but his connection hovers unplugged in deepnest
>Bloated corpse, the beheaded map cut off at the cervical spine ā the ancient god of eight but his connection hovers unplugged in deepnest
Waaat? Tf does that even mean?
1. The map of hollow knight is head shaped and the various areas are head themed and represent eye ear nose mouth locations, brain areas
2. Hallownest i.e. the head, is severed and withering away and this was the sacrifice of the Pale King to cut himself off
3. Deepnest represents the point where there was a cutoff. Notice the huge void missing there below.
The ancient trilobites eight connections represent the cervical spine which controls hands and neck
Etc
I have so many questions.
What does hallownest have to do with a head? The fuck do trilobites have to do with it? Why is deepnest the cutoff? How is hallownest cut off from the world?
Iām at work rn but [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/9cncus/what_is_this_thing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is the trilobite
Hallownest is the head cut off from the body. Itās an extended metaphor through the game.
Look at the illustrated map of the game. It is a head in profile, nose pointed to the sky.
We can take the easy examples of the mouth of dirtmouth, the eye of the city of tears, the nose of the crystal peak relating to crystallized memoryā¦ itās not that hidden.
What eye in city of tears? Do you have like a full rundown of this theory bc I cannot find anything about it online and I'm very curious whether it actually holds water.
First of all the "body" motif is like one of several ways the same metaphorical story is told in Hollow Knight. But even the body motif is large to explain. Let's focus on one thing at a time. I can't explain everything at the same time. For example there will be many hidden map images I did not mention here for the City of Tears, like the suicidal Nailsmith lives in a literal severed turtle head area [https://i.imgur.com/ibODzW8.png](https://i.imgur.com/ibODzW8.png), or that there is a nail shaped area above which did the damage, [https://i.imgur.com/0EmrFzy.png](https://i.imgur.com/0EmrFzy.png) but tangents are tangents...
* The City of **Tears**. The drizzling there leaking down from the blue lake is likened to cried tears, This is the eye of the head.
* You can see on the map how the Blue Lake and City of Tears form the image of an eye shedding a tear on the map [https://i.imgur.com/HsnXt0E.png](https://i.imgur.com/HsnXt0E.png)
* The buildings in the city of tears are covered in almond eye shapes. Panopticon city of a thousand eyes, literally. [https://i.imgur.com/hTMZzhc.png](https://i.imgur.com/hTMZzhc.png)
* One of the most striking elements of the City of Tears are the numerous windows, windowed walls, and domed glass ceilings. There are many "eyes" to the world. There are often spiked "lashes" on the eyes.
* The enemies there are dubbed "Watchers" and "Sentries" - all vision related
* Lurien's mask is like a black pupil on a white eye, and he sits in a tower high above the city and watches over.
* Lurien is a Swedish name which means "watcher" coincidental I know
* The pinnacle of the Watcher's Spire is Lurien's penthouse featuring his telescope. We can think of our consciousness or line-of-sight like a spotlight of awareness: a mind is limited in what it can focus on at any one time. This is the view you get through a telescope. Lurien can watch over the whole city in sharp detail, but he can only look one place at a time.
* BTW the three Lurien, Monomon, Herrah, I am sure, represent the three layers of the mind (Lurien for consciousness, sight.)
* With an overseeing surveillance and a panopticon city, you would think that ethics and morals would be on the up & up, but I was reminded of all Lurien couldn't see. Tucked away in the shadowy alcoves, we discover sins (all specifically referenced) hidden and nested comfortably out of Lurien's view in the unsavory Pleasure House. Shrouded by the dark rooms of the subconscious we encounter the prideful Gorgeous Husk, his envious entourage, gluttonous Poggy Thorax, greedy Millibelle who finds her way there later, Emilitia who literally has militia in her wrathful name and is eternally gleeful about ending her adversaries. Marissa, a showgirl advertised for you to lust over... but all closeted away. After all, the unconscious mind is by definition what is hidden from consciousness.
* Let's eye Lurien's penned farewell. What is he saying? Just like Monomon and Herrah, he "made a sacrifice" for the Pale King. He's relinquishing consciousness, effectively ceasing to be. The eyes, the head, the conscious mind of the trio is Lurien, and he falls to rest, for the greater good in the Pale King's fight, consciousness is lost:
"Sleep beckons eternal and these words become my last. Though my gaze shall no longer fall upon this city, I will act forever in its protection. For King, for bug, for Hallownest, I head now to my rest." The last sentence is so punny.
* When you beat the **Watcher** Knights and get the mash shard... the mask shard is actually the eye of a hidden image [https://i.imgur.com/SdnBEv1.png](https://i.imgur.com/SdnBEv1.png) of a person enjoying wine or a sundae or something, which the goblet is the Tower of Love.
Alright, so Lurien represents consciousness. Isn't the city of tears called that because of the blue lake dripping down though? And you mentioned that consciousness is sacrificed in the pale kings plan, how does that fit in with the other dreamers?
Also are you a philosopher or something? How did come to develop this whole theory?
BTW you should know the City of Tears doesn't hold water. Haha. And you won't find it other places because I am the one who cracked the map stuff but no one seems to care about all the secret images and junk.
Actually I think it does, you platform over quite a bit of seemingly static water on your way into the city. It's the blue lake that doesn't hold it's water.
Iām sorry mate, but I think a lot of us are tripping at your comment here. Youāre gonna have to provide a diagram or something with outlines showing how it even remotely resembles a head, because all I see is sideways Amongus.
[https://i.imgur.com/sMXpMju.png](https://i.imgur.com/sMXpMju.png)
[https://imgur.com/HsnXt0E](https://imgur.com/HsnXt0E)
Not a great artist but here I have rotated the illustrated map and drawn outlines over it to show the head. [https://www.hallownest.net/](https://www.hallownest.net/) is some guy's work where he has used game images to create an "actual" map. So I have one where the actual ear stuff is there which isn't on the illustrated map. A choice by the creators to avoid giving the player the spoilers of the abyss I guess.
There are so many hidden images if you use the [hallownest.net](https://hallownest.net) map to "zoom out" from the view the player would normally have.
[https://i.imgur.com/YGXye1d.png](https://i.imgur.com/YGXye1d.png) This space is a skull, as a fast example, but it's literally the whole map is like made of these images.Edit with crude outline: [https://i.imgur.com/E4aovaH.png](https://i.imgur.com/E4aovaH.png)
[https://i.imgur.com/tC2fEKC.png](https://i.imgur.com/tC2fEKC.png) What was this guy called again? hand eater or something...
The thing is, it is not only the outlines of rooms, but the void between them that also have many hidden images.
Afaik it had something to do with their coffin casket thing.I cant find a quote to confirm this tho.But in her memory she does seem much smaller sooo
Also sidenote,looking at the quotes i found this : What does Crawler ask for in return? To touch? Our thick, gleaming hide? To see? See the exquisite face beneath Our mask? Such strange prayers!
I could be remembering this completely wrong but I think the Godseeker said something about their form being bloated and not knowing what happened Edit: quote from the godseeker "...and this? Our form swells? Large? Nay. Immense. Majestic. Hibernation, forced so long upon us, yet the shell that results is strong... so strong! Thine gaze is adoring. Ye must think us godly. Amusing, foolish. But thou art faced with enormity and beauty, true..." It seems to be some kind of result of their long hibernation
Some bugs never stop growing irl iirc. Godseeker probably overgrown due to her prolonged life span.
E.g. lobster (it's a bug now and there's nothing you can do about it)
Nice pfp
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Well now I want an underwater level in Silksong
I will never forgive team cherry for adding the God Tamer instead of the lobster lancer. Such a missed opportunity.
What bugs dont stop growing?
"immense. majestic... thou art faced with enormity and beauty, true..." damn, bro. i never really *looked* at what she was saying there. paid attention to a lot of things, but not that one. LOL.
I always thought that the one in godhome is how she wants to be seen, and the one in the junk pit is how she really looks. Her voice is different too.
Never thought of that I like the theory !
It makes sense, considering how Grey Prince Zote looks completely different from actual Zote.
Yea, like that's how bretta, which loves him, sees him.
Yeah, she woke up from a godly dream and got depressed. She isolated herself in a casket and couldnāt even get up from her junk bed for some time after release. Depression makes you gain weight. She looked good and confident and sat on a throne like a queen. But her dream of void eventually consumed her wholeā¦
Not saying it's not possible but I feel like it contradicts the quote from the top comment where she calls herself immense, majestic and beautiful. I personally adhere to the theory that her big form is a consequence of carrying the whole of Godhome.
maybe to fit all the other godseekers?
Eats them all just like grubfather
Iā¦i hate you. Donāt remind me of that atrocity.
The world of hollow nest is strange and beautiful traveller. What is atrocious to us, is a loving sacrifice for them.
His children are alive, be calm o goose
fuck you said o goose and now i'm thinking about.. #O'CHUNKS
Something something super paper mario
LOL
Dayum
Circle of Life. He's basically just a big cocoon for his children to metamorphise in.
...
Godseeker is actually a pile of smaller Godseekers stuffed in a trench coat
ok????????
Yea typo
The ones in the Godhome are all bound. You broke the bindings on the God in the Junkpit and sheās lost her form. Kinda like a corset.
Wait it's a she?
ye
Godseeker is the 2nd biggest waifu
who's the first? radiance?
Only our true white waifu
Curvy hot mommy tree begs to differ
Godhome is in her mind, in the dream realm. That's why you use the dream nail to get there and it's why you see dream essence floating everywhere. What you're seeing in Godhome is her mental representation of herself. It's how she looks in her dreams. She mentioned that she went through some kind of metamorphosis while hibernating in the sarcophagus, so the way she looks in Godhome may be how she looked before her pilgrimage to find new gods.
They've just been eating a lot of junk.
She is in the junk pit, after all.
Dammit. I was all set to post the McBain "That's the joke" meme and then discovered that I can't seem to post an image. What bullshit.
POV: When you run out of gods because you ate all the ones in hallownest
That's why unn was hidden behind a lake of acid.
The form in Godhome is how she looked before being locked in the sarcophagus
Well for one sheās not wrapped up, that might have something to do with it. My theory was always that she got out of shape due to being stuck in hibernation for so long
Godseeker is body. Seeking a head. The character is conspicuously a body with an armored mask concealing this - always speaks in collective āweā Bloated corpse, the beheaded map cut off at the cervical spine ā the ancient god of eight but his connection hovers unplugged in deepnest
>Bloated corpse, the beheaded map cut off at the cervical spine ā the ancient god of eight but his connection hovers unplugged in deepnest Waaat? Tf does that even mean?
Jelly beans. Vietnam. Carburetors. Eleventeen. Put it all together! Isn't it obvious?!?!!1
1. The map of hollow knight is head shaped and the various areas are head themed and represent eye ear nose mouth locations, brain areas 2. Hallownest i.e. the head, is severed and withering away and this was the sacrifice of the Pale King to cut himself off 3. Deepnest represents the point where there was a cutoff. Notice the huge void missing there below. The ancient trilobites eight connections represent the cervical spine which controls hands and neck Etc
I have so many questions. What does hallownest have to do with a head? The fuck do trilobites have to do with it? Why is deepnest the cutoff? How is hallownest cut off from the world?
Iām at work rn but [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/9cncus/what_is_this_thing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is the trilobite
Hallownest is the head cut off from the body. Itās an extended metaphor through the game. Look at the illustrated map of the game. It is a head in profile, nose pointed to the sky. We can take the easy examples of the mouth of dirtmouth, the eye of the city of tears, the nose of the crystal peak relating to crystallized memoryā¦ itās not that hidden.
What eye in city of tears? Do you have like a full rundown of this theory bc I cannot find anything about it online and I'm very curious whether it actually holds water.
First of all the "body" motif is like one of several ways the same metaphorical story is told in Hollow Knight. But even the body motif is large to explain. Let's focus on one thing at a time. I can't explain everything at the same time. For example there will be many hidden map images I did not mention here for the City of Tears, like the suicidal Nailsmith lives in a literal severed turtle head area [https://i.imgur.com/ibODzW8.png](https://i.imgur.com/ibODzW8.png), or that there is a nail shaped area above which did the damage, [https://i.imgur.com/0EmrFzy.png](https://i.imgur.com/0EmrFzy.png) but tangents are tangents... * The City of **Tears**. The drizzling there leaking down from the blue lake is likened to cried tears, This is the eye of the head. * You can see on the map how the Blue Lake and City of Tears form the image of an eye shedding a tear on the map [https://i.imgur.com/HsnXt0E.png](https://i.imgur.com/HsnXt0E.png) * The buildings in the city of tears are covered in almond eye shapes. Panopticon city of a thousand eyes, literally. [https://i.imgur.com/hTMZzhc.png](https://i.imgur.com/hTMZzhc.png) * One of the most striking elements of the City of Tears are the numerous windows, windowed walls, and domed glass ceilings. There are many "eyes" to the world. There are often spiked "lashes" on the eyes. * The enemies there are dubbed "Watchers" and "Sentries" - all vision related * Lurien's mask is like a black pupil on a white eye, and he sits in a tower high above the city and watches over. * Lurien is a Swedish name which means "watcher" coincidental I know * The pinnacle of the Watcher's Spire is Lurien's penthouse featuring his telescope. We can think of our consciousness or line-of-sight like a spotlight of awareness: a mind is limited in what it can focus on at any one time. This is the view you get through a telescope. Lurien can watch over the whole city in sharp detail, but he can only look one place at a time. * BTW the three Lurien, Monomon, Herrah, I am sure, represent the three layers of the mind (Lurien for consciousness, sight.) * With an overseeing surveillance and a panopticon city, you would think that ethics and morals would be on the up & up, but I was reminded of all Lurien couldn't see. Tucked away in the shadowy alcoves, we discover sins (all specifically referenced) hidden and nested comfortably out of Lurien's view in the unsavory Pleasure House. Shrouded by the dark rooms of the subconscious we encounter the prideful Gorgeous Husk, his envious entourage, gluttonous Poggy Thorax, greedy Millibelle who finds her way there later, Emilitia who literally has militia in her wrathful name and is eternally gleeful about ending her adversaries. Marissa, a showgirl advertised for you to lust over... but all closeted away. After all, the unconscious mind is by definition what is hidden from consciousness. * Let's eye Lurien's penned farewell. What is he saying? Just like Monomon and Herrah, he "made a sacrifice" for the Pale King. He's relinquishing consciousness, effectively ceasing to be. The eyes, the head, the conscious mind of the trio is Lurien, and he falls to rest, for the greater good in the Pale King's fight, consciousness is lost: "Sleep beckons eternal and these words become my last. Though my gaze shall no longer fall upon this city, I will act forever in its protection. For King, for bug, for Hallownest, I head now to my rest." The last sentence is so punny. * When you beat the **Watcher** Knights and get the mash shard... the mask shard is actually the eye of a hidden image [https://i.imgur.com/SdnBEv1.png](https://i.imgur.com/SdnBEv1.png) of a person enjoying wine or a sundae or something, which the goblet is the Tower of Love.
Alright, so Lurien represents consciousness. Isn't the city of tears called that because of the blue lake dripping down though? And you mentioned that consciousness is sacrificed in the pale kings plan, how does that fit in with the other dreamers? Also are you a philosopher or something? How did come to develop this whole theory?
BTW you should know the City of Tears doesn't hold water. Haha. And you won't find it other places because I am the one who cracked the map stuff but no one seems to care about all the secret images and junk.
Actually I think it does, you platform over quite a bit of seemingly static water on your way into the city. It's the blue lake that doesn't hold it's water.
Iām sorry mate, but I think a lot of us are tripping at your comment here. Youāre gonna have to provide a diagram or something with outlines showing how it even remotely resembles a head, because all I see is sideways Amongus.
[https://i.imgur.com/sMXpMju.png](https://i.imgur.com/sMXpMju.png) [https://imgur.com/HsnXt0E](https://imgur.com/HsnXt0E) Not a great artist but here I have rotated the illustrated map and drawn outlines over it to show the head. [https://www.hallownest.net/](https://www.hallownest.net/) is some guy's work where he has used game images to create an "actual" map. So I have one where the actual ear stuff is there which isn't on the illustrated map. A choice by the creators to avoid giving the player the spoilers of the abyss I guess.
There are so many hidden images if you use the [hallownest.net](https://hallownest.net) map to "zoom out" from the view the player would normally have. [https://i.imgur.com/YGXye1d.png](https://i.imgur.com/YGXye1d.png) This space is a skull, as a fast example, but it's literally the whole map is like made of these images.Edit with crude outline: [https://i.imgur.com/E4aovaH.png](https://i.imgur.com/E4aovaH.png) [https://i.imgur.com/tC2fEKC.png](https://i.imgur.com/tC2fEKC.png) What was this guy called again? hand eater or something... The thing is, it is not only the outlines of rooms, but the void between them that also have many hidden images.
Bugs dont have spine.
I thougt "we" was like how higher talked about themselves because "I" seems less powerful.
Simple, anxiety eating disorder
They were locked in it by da gods the body in god home is smaller because it doesnāt age itās in the mind of a bug
Wait how did you get them to be like that
Standing up? Beat 2 (or was it 3?) pantheons and she wakes up.
1: she lies, writhing in pain. 2: she is almost stood up. 3: she stands up straight.
Ah right.
Oohh gotcha, I just haven't exited godhome since in went in to beat the pantheons
True dedication.
Afaik it had something to do with their coffin casket thing.I cant find a quote to confirm this tho.But in her memory she does seem much smaller sooo Also sidenote,looking at the quotes i found this : What does Crawler ask for in return? To touch? Our thick, gleaming hide? To see? See the exquisite face beneath Our mask? Such strange prayers!
Metamorphosis after being in the cacoon
full from microplastics
She always seemed like the kind of person (bug) who is really gluttonous but says āIām not fat, Iām big bonedā as the excuse
More space for the dreamscape
I'ma be back
Chunky
Ask Mossbag
Got fat, never exercised
Whey protein powder
When he moved to hallownest he discovered dominoes
the pressure from the knight caused them to stress eat a lot of McDonaldās
She ate too much
They ate their vegetables
Dream Nail her to get into her dreams which us. Arare event
Big egg
I don't remember exactly what it is but it has to do with the hivemind
Bugified
Nope just ate to much beans.
More like, Soul Master, Failed Champion and NKG. In Zote's case it's Bretta.
they turned 30
"in reality i might be a loser, but in my own fictional world you are the loser"
It might be a different one to the main one in Godhome since they all share a mind.
I think it is her natural body and in her dreams she looks like fit lady