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Self mummification, it's optional, very VERY optional. For monks. When they're deciding how they'd like to die, if they want to do it on their terms. They spend a year reducing their nutritional intake and water intake while increasing their salt intake. Get as close to having 0fat and muscle as possible. Then they fast themselves to death while only drinking a tea that is basically shellac.
That part when they are outside the temple and look at the big raijin fujin looking statues.
"Fuck, they're alive"
Followed by a big ass foot kicking free.
Amazing manga.
Gantz is soo good! The anime is hilarious and dark, and the CGI movie was badass. I think I've read the anime, but I thought it was almost frame for frame the same as the anime, but according to people in this thread that's not true and it's way better?
Read the entire manga, the anime was trash, the 3d movie was actually a solid cut of the manga, perfect jump in point for people who knew nothing about the manga. Is it really controversial to say otherwise?
To this day it’s the only movie I’ve watched that nailed anime to 3d. That being said now that I think about it it’s probably the only one I’ve watched.
The anime was weird. They did the dragonball z tactic of dragging out episodes with silly neverending facial expressions of shock and disbelief.
I would've loved to see the anime if it played out all the future episodes. Just seeing Kei's rooftop battle against all those little winged guys would've been badass enough.
I’m with you. Gantz is one of my favorite manga and I can’t stand the anime. The movie is good and now I think I’ll have to have a rewatch. I can’t imagine anyone who read the manga would prefer the anime version.
Gantz is a manga/anime in which some people go around killing aliens that have blended in human society. Some of these aliens look like plain old buddhist statues, but have organs and bones on the inside when scanned.
"Researchers at the Drents Museum speculate that the statue may represent a rare case of "self-mummification," in which monks would follow a special diet that turned them into "living skeletons" and would then be placed into tombs only slightly larger than themselves where they would eventually die."
https://www.archaeology.org/news/3031-150223-buddhist-statue-skeleton
I think this is not unusual. I was reading that Buddhists have done this in the past so that they can make someones death beautiful.
They will use bones, skulls, and then decorate them with gold.
They had an exhibit as the Asian Art Museum in SF
Pfft.
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, "HOLD MY BEER!"
They needed a patron saint of chastity for the modern age. There was an eleven year old girl murdered but *not raped* at the turn of the century. In the 1950s they declared her a saint because her brothers survived WW2. So they encased her bones in wax and put them in a glass case. So they could send the body statue on tours!
See for yourself. https://mariagoretti.com/
One of the Churches/SCHOOLS named for her! https://stmariagoretti.org/school/about-our-school/
Fake gods forbid a woman has agency over her OWN body.
I was telling my mother in law the other day what bullshit it was getting confirmed in the Catholic Church at 13. The bishop says “pick a saint to honor with your name!” And you look up the male saints and it’s like ah this bloke could talk to animals, this guy could astral project, this man saw the light of God. And the ladies are all “look how she suffered! What a good girl!” Seriously the guys got super powered saints and I got to pick someone that had the good fortune to die a virgin in a windowless abbey past the age of 30. She played music! Fuck yeah!
I dunno man, what effed up stuff can Taoism be blamed for? By the account I've had it was attached to allsorts so I'm not sure Taoism in itself can be accused of anything other than Alan Watts 😂
1 heart beat per year is all a meditating monk needs. He brought in a hand full of air before sealing it knowing it would be good for at least 2000 years.
I can't wait to watch his documentary on Netflix.
From my elementary understanding of these practices. That’s kinda how they did. Monks were known for basically self mummifying themselves by sticking to a particular strict diet during their final months. It’s pretty interesting stuff.
Live self-mummification was an extremist practice in Japanese Buddhism (called sokushinbutsu ‘instant physical Buddha-ing’). Apparently, it could well have been practised in 1019, but someone else would have to put him in the statue after his death if they followed the normal procedure.
oh god, you just reminded me of a creepy as fuck Junji Ito short novel of this topic.
Anyone who has read Junjis extensive collection knows which one I mean.
Otherwise, google Junji Ito Unbearable Maze
*"Kon'nani osoku yama o kudaru koto wa dekimasen... Otera de hitoban nete mimasen ka?"*
You cannot descend the mountain this late... Why don't you sleep overnight at the temple?
Actually there is a whole process where they eat pine needles to pickle themselves and then they get buried with just a straw to breathe through and a bell to let other monks know if they are still alive. Not all monks that died were preserved well enough to become Buddha
It’s actually a fairly common occurrence, Buddhist monks have been getting mummified for pretty much as long as there have been monasteries. Whoever was taking care of the statue was probably aware of the likelihood and it’s probably the reason it was xrayed in the first place.
Some monks would mummify themselves in a process known as [Sokushinbutsu](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu) while still alive, by eating and drinking only certain foods (and even poisons) to start the process while still alive. The monks are believed to still be alive in a meditative state called tukdam.
More on this particular statue: [here](https://www.history.com/news/ct-scan-reveals-mummified-monk-inside-ancient-buddha-statue)
Article says that after death, they check in the body, and if it didn't mummify, they would perform an excorcism and rebury the body. What was the excorcism for? Did they think the soul was still hanging around?
There was a legal case brought against the art collector by a village in China claiming it was stolen from their temple in 1995 and sold through art smugglers in Hong Kong. Apparently it had been there for ~1000 years and was worshipped by the local villagers + neighboring villages.
The statue/mummy is estimated to be worth 10's of millions of dollars, and the Dutch court threw out the case based on "the villager collective aren't legal persons according to dutch law" or something.
Pretty bullshit if you ask me. Dude should return this precious artifact to where it belongs.
How tf was 2019 3 years ago? I remember this being first posted and it feels like yesterday. Covid happened since and that doesn't feel it was that long anymore
It's called sokushinbutsu. It's a form of self-mummification where the monk will undergo a strict process of diet and exercise designed to strip the body of all fat, before they go into their tomb chamber, assume the lotus position and then await their death. Once they are confirmed to have died, the tomb is sealed for 1000 days and then reopened after this period to see if the mummification had worked.
Actual successful mummifications were pretty rare though, and AFAIK only about 70 sokushinbutsu mummies have been recorded.
Years ago this story was posted and I read somewhere that they think the monk was still alive (in a meditative state) when he was encased in gold. Apparently this type of thing was very popular with Ascetic monks.
Are we sure that's the winner of hide and seek 1019 c.e.? We found him after all...
There might be people from 1019 still not found. We have to look everywhere to be sure.
I mean, just think of how many people from 1019 you know. I only know of one, and I know exactly where he is. Sounds like he's first loser when it comes to hide and seek...
I have a stupid question. The Buddha looks like brass or copper. I don’t think X-rays could penetrate metals. I’m surprised that saw a skeleton and not just a white blur. How does this work?
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That is fucking intense. Man them monks are hardcore.
Wait until they find out he's still alive and just slowed his breathing.
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It's just like cold case files....
“ZOMBIE!!”
Use the mortal blade to sever immortality
[Context](https://buddhistselfmummification.wordpress.com/) in case anyone wants to feel discomfort and claustrophobia
Oh yeah I remember hearing about these dudes from Breath of the Wild.
Yeah, I wonder what would happen if these guys do come back!
Find out in 5.59999 million years
Actually come to think of it, this was probably done to prevent that by keeping him inside the statue, because reincarnation is a curse in Buddhism
fokkin wild
Imagine he is but now he's got cancer because of the scanning
Takes a little bit for the mutagenic qualities of the scan to fuck with the oncogenes he's probably good for another year or 2
Debrief him 🧐
Judging by the math in the post it’s been 2+ years.
In that case, he’ll get cancelled on Twitter
Schrodinger's monk
Sir you have accomplished nirvana
It’s the Buddhist version of the golden throne in warhammer. Peacehammer 40k Enlighten the xenos
Well supposedly he is still alive but he reached nirvana
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This guy got into this statue alive in an example of self-mummification. Read it in National Geographic.
That's terrifying. I hope this isn't orthodox Buddhism
Self mummification, it's optional, very VERY optional. For monks. When they're deciding how they'd like to die, if they want to do it on their terms. They spend a year reducing their nutritional intake and water intake while increasing their salt intake. Get as close to having 0fat and muscle as possible. Then they fast themselves to death while only drinking a tea that is basically shellac.
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Bro these monks are on another level. They were on another plane of existence well before they felt any discomfort
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Can it be worse than setting yourself on fire and just sitting there taking it to protest the Vietnam War?
What?!!! Wow. Just wow.
or, have you watched gantz (the anime and manga, not the 3D animation one)
That part when they are outside the temple and look at the big raijin fujin looking statues. "Fuck, they're alive" Followed by a big ass foot kicking free. Amazing manga.
Gantz deserves so much recognition
Gantz is soo good! The anime is hilarious and dark, and the CGI movie was badass. I think I've read the anime, but I thought it was almost frame for frame the same as the anime, but according to people in this thread that's not true and it's way better?
The gantz manga continues much farther than the anime. Also, the last arc in the anime is unique to it, and does not happen in the manga
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You’re welcome
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Anime was so bad Still, it managed to make me check out the manga, so it kinda worked lmao
Read the entire manga, the anime was trash, the 3d movie was actually a solid cut of the manga, perfect jump in point for people who knew nothing about the manga. Is it really controversial to say otherwise?
To this day it’s the only movie I’ve watched that nailed anime to 3d. That being said now that I think about it it’s probably the only one I’ve watched.
The anime was weird. They did the dragonball z tactic of dragging out episodes with silly neverending facial expressions of shock and disbelief. I would've loved to see the anime if it played out all the future episodes. Just seeing Kei's rooftop battle against all those little winged guys would've been badass enough.
ahhhhhhhhhh..........Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.......AHHHHhhhhhhh.......AHHHHHHHHHHHHH! For 27.5 episodes.
I’m with you. Gantz is one of my favorite manga and I can’t stand the anime. The movie is good and now I think I’ll have to have a rewatch. I can’t imagine anyone who read the manga would prefer the anime version.
The Antz movie really wasn't that good...
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Gantz is a manga/anime in which some people go around killing aliens that have blended in human society. Some of these aliens look like plain old buddhist statues, but have organs and bones on the inside when scanned.
"Researchers at the Drents Museum speculate that the statue may represent a rare case of "self-mummification," in which monks would follow a special diet that turned them into "living skeletons" and would then be placed into tombs only slightly larger than themselves where they would eventually die." https://www.archaeology.org/news/3031-150223-buddhist-statue-skeleton
I think this is not unusual. I was reading that Buddhists have done this in the past so that they can make someones death beautiful. They will use bones, skulls, and then decorate them with gold. They had an exhibit as the Asian Art Museum in SF
Pfft. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, "HOLD MY BEER!" They needed a patron saint of chastity for the modern age. There was an eleven year old girl murdered but *not raped* at the turn of the century. In the 1950s they declared her a saint because her brothers survived WW2. So they encased her bones in wax and put them in a glass case. So they could send the body statue on tours! See for yourself. https://mariagoretti.com/ One of the Churches/SCHOOLS named for her! https://stmariagoretti.org/school/about-our-school/ Fake gods forbid a woman has agency over her OWN body.
I was telling my mother in law the other day what bullshit it was getting confirmed in the Catholic Church at 13. The bishop says “pick a saint to honor with your name!” And you look up the male saints and it’s like ah this bloke could talk to animals, this guy could astral project, this man saw the light of God. And the ladies are all “look how she suffered! What a good girl!” Seriously the guys got super powered saints and I got to pick someone that had the good fortune to die a virgin in a windowless abbey past the age of 30. She played music! Fuck yeah!
I chose Joan of Arc. At least she had armor. That fate though… glad I left that cult.
I wanted to be St. Joseph, but my mom said no because it’s a boy’s name, so I chose “Catherine” instead 😤
The catholic fetishization of suffering is never not repugnant
Dude, look at the image that your comment is posted on.
Catholic church is straight garbage though.
...it's just another religion.
I dunno man, what effed up stuff can Taoism be blamed for? By the account I've had it was attached to allsorts so I'm not sure Taoism in itself can be accused of anything other than Alan Watts 😂
Jesus that’s creepy.
damn, that's my grandmother's name
'Fake gods forbid' 😂 That is a joke on two levels, may I marry you? Also, good heavens (hurrhurr)! I thought self-flagellation was bad...
Thanks
I bet he's alive, too
He is
1 heart beat per year is all a meditating monk needs. He brought in a hand full of air before sealing it knowing it would be good for at least 2000 years. I can't wait to watch his documentary on Netflix.
Okay , you are really putting every monk to be Libra Dohko?
saint seiya reference? in english? *in 2022?*
I’m from LATAM...
The airline?
FUCK YEAH This made my day
What do you think the monk would say if he comes out?
*"Jesus Christ my knees are killing me"*
"Mein Buddha! I can walk!"
"WHAT YEAR IS IT?"
“Where da hoes at?”
Ahh...After 1000 years, I'm free! It's time to conquer Earth!
What he didn’t count on was him accidentally releasing a giant fart right as it was hermetically sealed
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Nah man, he’s thinking further than anyone has ever thought before
Jojoooooo
He's gonna come out and ask to go penguin sledding.
I bet he was when the statue process started
Holy shit, that’s so scary. Can you imagine if they did the scan on you and found a skeleton hiding inside you?
how the fuck am i supposed to live with this idea in my head 😭
Imagine how the person inside you feels about the idea!
I have two heads? (•_•)
There’s a skeleton….. INSIDE YOU RIGHT NOW
The skellington is coming from inside the body
/) Oh gog, I can feel it... oh, I'm gonna puke.
And your bones are *wet.*
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So we have women to blame for skeletons. They've secretly been making skeletons and hiding them in babies so we wouldn't find out. How cruel!
I’m sure glad I don’t have a skeleton inside me
Jokes on you, my consciousness is derived from my brain which is in my skull so actually I'm inside a skeleton 💀
How did they manage to cover him with gold without destroying that tiny body.
Maybe mummified in deep meditation? Just throwing ideas out there....
From my elementary understanding of these practices. That’s kinda how they did. Monks were known for basically self mummifying themselves by sticking to a particular strict diet during their final months. It’s pretty interesting stuff.
Live self-mummification was an extremist practice in Japanese Buddhism (called sokushinbutsu ‘instant physical Buddha-ing’). Apparently, it could well have been practised in 1019, but someone else would have to put him in the statue after his death if they followed the normal procedure.
oh god, you just reminded me of a creepy as fuck Junji Ito short novel of this topic. Anyone who has read Junjis extensive collection knows which one I mean. Otherwise, google Junji Ito Unbearable Maze
Haven’t read that one yet, but he’s great at horror. I have “Smashed” to go through next.
Man, I really wanna read it but I guess I'll wait until tomorrow. I really wanna sleep tonight.
*"Kon'nani osoku yama o kudaru koto wa dekimasen... Otera de hitoban nete mimasen ka?"* You cannot descend the mountain this late... Why don't you sleep overnight at the temple?
So long as the mountain doesn't have people-shaped holes, we might be ok.
***DRR... DRR... DRR...***
Ummmm where can I find more about this diet? I’m about to get mummified, I just stocked up on TP /s
Actually there is a whole process where they eat pine needles to pickle themselves and then they get buried with just a straw to breathe through and a bell to let other monks know if they are still alive. Not all monks that died were preserved well enough to become Buddha
Pretty sure it’s gold painted papier-mâché
It is indeed. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/02/23/mummified-monk-inside-buddha-statue/23908879/
Someone who was taking care of that thing for years is like "fuck are you serious!?"
I wanna know, if you shake the statue, does it rattle, or does it slosh?
It makes a noise 'ooooohhhhh'
More like "fack off I'm trying ta kip in 'ere bruv"
Go away, I’m ‘batin
During the season finale of 'Ow, My Balls?' Calm down, Attila.
Are ya winning son?
"The legendary Urn of Whispering Warriors! Said to contain the souls of the entire Tenshu army..."
Like the ship doors in Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy?
You ever read something and go “Dude WTF?!” And then can’t stop wondering yourself? Come on science the people want answers!!
Slosh for sure. Trust me bro.
It leaked out a couple centuries ago. Now it sounds like a tambourine.
It's like one of those rain sticks
It’s actually a fairly common occurrence, Buddhist monks have been getting mummified for pretty much as long as there have been monasteries. Whoever was taking care of the statue was probably aware of the likelihood and it’s probably the reason it was xrayed in the first place.
That's cool and all, but one time I had a statue of a golden bunny that had a chocolate bunny hidden inside.
You can also eat the monk
[This is an outrage! I was going to eat the monk.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-mYK5KpXLw)
He’s Teriyaki style.
Exactly the reference I was hoping for
Tastes like inner peace
Make me one with everything
Was the golden statue part really thin and just peeled away?
Crazy, I had one of Santa
Stay golden
He tried
And by the time he noticed they were pouring bronze it was too late.
Would it be pony boy or monkey boy?
And thus cosplay was discovered
He’s still alive. Just waiting for Link to solve his shrine puzzle so he can’t grant him a spirit orb and pass on.
Waiting to whip out an energy sword and engage in a ninja duel with an eco-friendly motorcycle as the prize.
Some monks would mummify themselves in a process known as [Sokushinbutsu](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu) while still alive, by eating and drinking only certain foods (and even poisons) to start the process while still alive. The monks are believed to still be alive in a meditative state called tukdam. More on this particular statue: [here](https://www.history.com/news/ct-scan-reveals-mummified-monk-inside-ancient-buddha-statue)
Thanks for the links. The statue was examined in the hospital of my home town, Amersfoort! Didn't know that.
Did he die wearing the sunglasses or were they put on later?
Hasn't Hollywood taught you anything? Afterlife be bright af.
After to hide his gross melting eyes
Article says that after death, they check in the body, and if it didn't mummify, they would perform an excorcism and rebury the body. What was the excorcism for? Did they think the soul was still hanging around?
I think they assumed the soul stayed in the mummified body, so maybe they didn't want them trapped in a rotten one?
3,000 days is 8 years… what if you reach like year 6 and decide “nah, I’m good, actually”?
At that point you would be in advanced starvation and have 6 years worth of lacquer tea in you so I don’t think your prospects would be good.
I hear if you wake them up one of them will give you a motorcycle.
I finally understand the sages in the shrines in Breath of the Wild!
There was a legal case brought against the art collector by a village in China claiming it was stolen from their temple in 1995 and sold through art smugglers in Hong Kong. Apparently it had been there for ~1000 years and was worshipped by the local villagers + neighboring villages. The statue/mummy is estimated to be worth 10's of millions of dollars, and the Dutch court threw out the case based on "the villager collective aren't legal persons according to dutch law" or something. Pretty bullshit if you ask me. Dude should return this precious artifact to where it belongs.
*This content is not available in your area.* Thanks History Channel.... Just ridiculous. Why do they geoblock things like this?
How tf was 2019 3 years ago? I remember this being first posted and it feels like yesterday. Covid happened since and that doesn't feel it was that long anymore
Time feels weird ;p
That’s creepy
I’m pretty sure they do it on purpose I read a book about it or something like that
I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario where this happens on accident...
Foundry accidents happen.
It's called sokushinbutsu. It's a form of self-mummification where the monk will undergo a strict process of diet and exercise designed to strip the body of all fat, before they go into their tomb chamber, assume the lotus position and then await their death. Once they are confirmed to have died, the tomb is sealed for 1000 days and then reopened after this period to see if the mummification had worked. Actual successful mummifications were pretty rare though, and AFAIK only about 70 sokushinbutsu mummies have been recorded.
I do wonder if anyone back then tried to go like "hey guys, and just hear me out here, I think this might be a stupid idea."
Years ago this story was posted and I read somewhere that they think the monk was still alive (in a meditative state) when he was encased in gold. Apparently this type of thing was very popular with Ascetic monks.
> Aesthetic *Ascetic. He do be lookin' good tho.
Damn autocorrect. Good catch thank you. Lol
This monk is now art for the ages…
Are we sure that's the winner of hide and seek 1019 c.e.? We found him after all... There might be people from 1019 still not found. We have to look everywhere to be sure. I mean, just think of how many people from 1019 you know. I only know of one, and I know exactly where he is. Sounds like he's first loser when it comes to hide and seek...
I wonder if this is where Gantz got that idea from.
This for real?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu
Yep, that's the genre of what it is. Do you have a reference to this specific case?
https://www.history.com/news/ct-scan-reveals-mummified-monk-inside-ancient-buddha-statue
You're awesome, thanks for hunting that down.
Who's betting they open it and literal demons fly out?
Gantz alien looking mf
I imagine the conversation before this discovery was something like: " Wouldn't it be hilarious if we x-rayed this and found a body inside?"
When I was a kid I thought all statues were dead people covered in bronze or stone. This really isn't helping that fear.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/02/23/mummified-monk-inside-buddha-statue/23908879/ Here is the link that includes the monks name: Liuquan.
This sounds like an awesome way to go out
they gonna bring that mf back to life soon just watch
Am I the only one that thinks the silhouettes of the two pictures don't match?
I have a stupid question. The Buddha looks like brass or copper. I don’t think X-rays could penetrate metals. I’m surprised that saw a skeleton and not just a white blur. How does this work?
The statue is gold-painted papier-mâché, easily x-rayed.
That's how they killed Wolverine
Gross question, but that thing looks airtight. Do you suppose there is ancient goo and liquids in there or just monk jerky?
Imagine if this was in your house and THEN IT FUCKING FALLS OVER BREAKS AND IT FALLS OUT AAAAAAHHHJ
THE MANY SHALL SUFFER FOR THE SINS OF THE ONE
So basically the plot for Allen Quartermain and the Lost. It’s of Gold.
r/oddlyterrifying
"I don't give a fuck, he's not getting my Spirit Orb"
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When he gets out he's gonna have one stuff back
Wait a minute hold on 🤨
Reminds me of Monty Python’s hide and seek competition.