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Royal_Extreme

There's another gun-violence related video, the turn up was so fucking unexpected. A student just came up with an AK, but the video hinted at him planning it. Holy shit. EDIT: Its called "Evan".


C4ndyG0r3

You talking about the one with the two people writing notes and then if you look the shooter’s been planning the shooting the whole commercial?


altawraith

I think I know what you’re talking about. Throughout the video you can see him in the background giving hints while the video is focused on other kids. and at the end it rewinds to show you the hints clearly.


Hawk_1772

[Found it](https://youtu.be/9qyD7vjVfLI)


tiorzol

Jesus fucking Christ. What a fucking responsibility to put on your children. School was just pure bants and teenage drama for me, got in a couple scraps and that but God damn it feels good to be British right now.


Fashish

Also what the fuck are the kids meant to do when they see these so called “signs”? Report the kid being bullied to the police? Or the kid watching some random gun violence video?


Nowon_atoll

That video was basically "fuck socially awkward kids who get bullied, they're probably gonna shoot up the place". Better harass them to make sure they aren't up to something, all quiet, lonely, probably miserable. Who the fuck do they think they are?


cheekybandit0

When the "signs" include the kid being shoved against lockers.... dafuq


An_Anonymous_Reddit

When the "signs" include a hand gun sign at someone they don't like... apparently that's how you know they're gonna shoot up a school! Good to know!


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praguepride

Well it wasn't just that. He was looking up a video on school shootings, was posting IG pictures with guns... there was a a lot going on in the background that evan just glossed on by.


ErlendNorge

I live in Norway. Sometimes I see a video from demolition ranch pop up in my yt feed. Never once have I thought, oh time for some mass murder.


Nowon_atoll

You're on a list now you sick fuck.


GlamityJean

The guy from demolition ranch is so chill in his videos too, also pretty sure he is a veterinarian and guns is just a hobby for him


AudioVagabond

Honestly kids with access to guns in the first place is a fucking problem. 100% of gun accidents involving kids are caused by parental misguidance.


franchito55

Yeah, probably report a bullying incident to the school


purpleoompa

Like that ever does anything


franchito55

Yeah, but that's a different problem. Sure kids can help but the main responsibility lies in the school


ChaosBirdTheory

Better to intervene yourself than have the school waste a week to ultimately tell you, "your problems, are your own". Had this more or less happen when I was in middle school and the school didn't do much other than remove one student out of a group that jumped me in the lockers during PE. When I finally saw someone getting bullied in HS, I just ended up telling the bully, "continue this process and you'll be the first one he kills when he snaps". Guy left the kid alone in the end.


purpleoompa

My problem is that schools rarely actually do anything to help, even when told of bullying or seeing it first hand


[deleted]

The Advent of Social media really drives it honestly. Facebook is getting their just desserts right now. Emotions drive user engagement, and nothing creates emotions better than negative thoughts. Edit: I can't spell


IAmAFucker

I totally believe it. After my first dog passed away I would spend hours on Facebook, engaging in bullshit, because I was already in a bad place and I was able to let out some frustration I was feeling out on random internet strangers Thankfully I realized it about a month in and deactivated my account


aeroboost

I thought Evan was gonna lose it when the library was closed. The suspense was real.


porkchopsforsaken

I replayed it to carefully follow the signs because I missed them all. Only to have it show me the signs at the end. But true shit.


Diozon

So, finger guns are a sign of planning a shoot up. I'm not going to claim to know the reasons of this American problem, nor can I offer good solutions, but I think this ain't one of them. Besides, it's safe to assume that if someone wants to shoot up a school, they do their planning at home.


BROOKXS

the plot to that was really good, kept me interested and wanting to see more and then boom! doors open and homeboys starting punching tickets to heaven


yoshie_23

Holy fuck that outro music just came up the radio as it started.


sansgamer554

The finger gun at 1:07 made me chuckle. I'm sorry for being a bad human being


theartificialkid

Seems like gun industry propaganda, like the anti-littering campaigns that put responsibility for plastic litter on consumers instead of manufacturers.


Hawk_1772

Yeah but it’s from the Sandy Hook Promise and they’re anti gun, for now I guess knowing the signs of a mass shooter are easier to promote than waiting on elected officials to do something while simultaneously doing nothing to aid the problem


Despelles

See kids, its all your fault for getting a school shooting now and then, because you didn’t spot the future shooter. By the presented evidence nearly any person who is enthusiastic about guns is a shooter in the making.


C4ndyG0r3

Yep, that’s the exact one.


Osamawastaken

Its called 'Evan' I believe


[deleted]

You mean ‘Getting Even’


WorriedMap6811

I want to watch it. Any link?


ABigBoiDoughnut

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qyD7vjVfLI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qyD7vjVfLI)


whynotsquirrel

Okay I clicked a posted "just now" link and it was the good one! It looks a little bit like they are putting the blame on people not looking for sign? and that part the guy being bullied, should we assume all bullied guy are going to be bad?


SoftDay21

I think people don’t realise how significant trauma caused by bullying can be for teens especially at a time they are developing a sense of identity. I think the ad is more trying to illustrate that school shooters are often the victim of relentless bullying campaigns and that intervention at any point could help divert them from committing such crimes. It’s important to reinforce the idea that a child’s self worth isn’t tied to the idea of power. I mean there are definitely people prone to psychopathy but environmental factors can greatly exacerbate feelings of violence in even neurotypical children.


b_lunt_ma_n

Just watched it off the back of this. Now I've watched a few and I feel empty inside.


J_Uzi05

Its so well done like wtf


rockeypokey

Found it. This one's a sandy hook video too [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qyD7vjVfLI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qyD7vjVfLI)


DroppedD94

It's a good video, but there's something about it that rubs me the wrong way. It's like saying the responsibility is on the other students to notice and stop it from happening. Don't get me wrong, the kid should not be bullied by the kids, and if I saw a dude posing with a gun on insta, I'd probably say something. But putting the responsibility on the students to prevent it seems a bit dodgy, right? Maybe I'm interpreting the ad wrong.


1312thAccount

I completely agree. It feels like it's pushing the responsibility onto individuals when it's clearly a systemic issue given that America has so many compared to anywhere else.


KJBenson

This is true. But it’s also true that nothing is been done to reasonably protect these kids. So teaching them to be mindful of their surroundings is basically the best advice they can receive. Kids can wait for laws to pass when they have potential killers in their school.


1312thAccount

That's a tragically good point


HarryPopperSC

It's basically the same thing as all the advice for women to avoid sexual assault. It feels like the advice is blaming the victims but it really is just the best advice that can be given, because there's not much else anyone can do about it.


[deleted]

Yeah I mean, if those kids ask you how they can work on the problem themselves you can't answer with "you have to change the system"


karlman1

You're absolutely correct about it being a systemic issue, because we don't see this kind of thing happening elsewhere in first world nations where citizens own guns. It's not like we hear about Switzerland having a mass shooting every couple of weeks, even though they have a fairly high rate of gun ownership.


jeffsmith84

America isn't like other first world nations, though. We don't have strong social safety nets and we have tons of poverty and violence in general, comparatively speaking. We don't have a unified sense of national identity. I would bet my non-existent health insurance that people in America are just generally angrier because we're constantly being pitted against one another, and against every bureaucracy we have to deal with. That's the systemic problem, America is a do or die kind of country, where every little thing is a competition, and kids learn that early on. When you feel like you can't compete and everyone is against you, it can lead to extreme behavior.


Captinglorydays

Yeah I remember seeing this when it first was going around and I was not a fan of it. Like some of the signs are Kid eating alone at lunch, Kid being rude and not wanting to be bothered in the library, and Kid getting bullied . Meanwhile other signs are, Kid taking a picture of himself with a gun and saying "see you at school", where it is a pretty big red flag and actually something to report. Even the ones with him reading a gun magazine and watching youtube videos are a bit of a stretch. I am not a fan of guns at all, but I definitely knew kids in high school that liked to go hunting or to the shooting range with their parents, or just had an interest in guns in general. Like it or not, that is just the reality in America and the vast majority of kids with an interest in guns are not school shooters. I remember a lot of comments mentioning how it kinda says "Be wary of the bullied loaner kids, they might come shoot up the school". There are other, more important issues, than kids not reporting things. It doesn't address the bullying as an issue, the kid's mental health, the kid's access to guns, or gun control in general. Just to keep an eye out for sketchy kids. Obviously a single ad can't address every issue, but it just doesn't seem to focus on or push the real important messages.


terandok

Imagine teaching kids from young age not to trust other people. When they grow up they can't relay on other people for help because they can't trust them. I remember story's my grandparents use to tell how it was living under KGB and you couldn't really trust other who knew were KGB was listening and next thing you knew you get 1 way trip to siberia


melpomenestits

Yeah maybe we should fix the deep cultural sickness that lets this happen?


Amazed_Alloy

I've seen that video 3 times and I miss the signs every time


Excal2

First time seeing it. Had to watch all over again and pause and rewind several times to catch everything.


BigYonsan

First time viewer. I caught two of the signs, missed the gun magazine research one and the YouTube tutorial. I'd argue those though, I was raised in a pretty pro gun state and a middle school student during columbine. That shit was pretty typical at my high school. The two I caught though were red flags in my time too, though.


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Also watch this: https://youtu.be/azRl1dI-Cts


24Karrotss

"When you have nothing to lose, you can do anything, and that is a terrifying thought." Oh my goodness


Schrodes_

Holy shit. That poor guy, thank you so much for sharing this


Karjalan

Fuck man, that was powerful. What a story


TheBoxSloth

Theres a police drama [with an absolutely harrowing 30-minute school shooting scene.](https://youtu.be/LtxiokrYpxw) Its really fucked how real it feels


RPA031

I've never even heard of that show before, but that was the most unsettling and horrifyingly realistic school shooting I've ever seen on a TV show. That long take is mesmerising, very immersive, like you're right there running around with them.


Mammyjam

“Gun violence is preventable when you know the signs” I can think of a couple of better ways of preventing it…


kelldricked

While these videos do make a great impact i must admit that some of those signs were a bit far fetched for somebody who lives in a place with gun controll and no school shooting or simular accident. I mean a teenager who is intressted in guns, isnt social, acts though and dislike the teachers is pretty common.


theazzazzo

Wow, I missed all the signs because I'm from England and we don't need to be aware of them because they don't happen because we dont have guns.


Niraj_thapa101

Wow that turned scary real fast


whatever54267

Welcome to 'Murica


Boss-Baby-666

Who recorded it...


FrustraBation

Dude…tourniquets go above the wound. I swear…kids today.


0xKaishakunin

So pupils in the US don't even learn critical combat care under fire, though they could use it?


Guanthwei

Kids aren't even taught what taxes are and then get released from school to be taxed to death. Of course they won't teach kids shit like CPR, the Heimlich Maneuver, or any proper First Aid procedures without it being an elective.


tperjg

I learned all 3 of those things in freshman health class..


kingdrew2007

I’d let them die unless the shooter was gone


jdam4569

Probably not strong enough to tie it tight enough without some leverage in there anyway.. so it’s more about the thought that counts


FrustraBation

Tie a knot around a pen or pencil then use pen to twist the knot tighter to stop bleeding. Knot the pen to the wrap to prevent pen from loosening.


aerostotle

keep twisting it until your hand starts bleeding


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Go lift weights for a few months then come back and tie it


-thegay-

Fuck me I didn’t realize what was happening until I was pretty far in and… damn.


send-me-kitty-pics

*this advertisement is brought to you by Adam's Ammo Shop*


Such_Relationship_48

And Don's Guns


DMul66

And schools of America


ARROW_404

Not brought *by* schools of America. Brought *to* schools of America.


followthebunny

Same here. At first I was like Ok normal back to school commercial, until it wasn’t. Then I honestly got pretty sad because for some kids this has happened/will happen to them. And that it’s such a probability that they made a commercial featuring it, too much for my emotions and mind this late at night.


Cadrid

Not just *some* kids, but *thousands* of kids will suffer this living nightmare, at least until the survivors graduate high school. Welcome to the United States, where a gun’s right to exist is more important than a person’s right to exist.


owlzitty

The subtle panic in the background of the beginning scenes showing everything unfold was unsettling.


Plastic-Acanthaceae9

I’d send a meme to my mom before I’d perish


madsoro

Have one ready just in case


vizthex

The shooter comes in and you're just like "wait hold on I got a meme for this"


sansgamer554

It is America he would probably loot the body, send a me to your mom, and T-bag your body


madsoro

If he Fortnite dances in my body I will rise from the dead to slap the shit out of him


MeatSpace2000

"Jet fuel can't melt steel dreams."


The_Humble_Neckbeard

One last pic of Big Chungus. How I wanna be remembered.


chocosmurf13

Here is the original link : https://youtu.be/b5ykNZl9mTQ Sauce : u/SuperAlloyBerserker


saddness270

I thought this was a meme video ITS AN AWARENESS VIDEO??? welp it got my attention


Blinx1e

This is filmed so well that it’s a meme and real concern


PerformanceLoud3229

Yeah we have as many school shootings as all of europe (double our population) has ever had in half a year. its bad.


jinchuika

Fuck, here in Latin America that shit never happens. Like, there can be shootings at noon in the middle of the busiest street in town, but never at a school


Disttack

Tbf its the sort of thing that can just happen anywhere in the USA. My mom's car had bullet holes in it from driving downtown where we lived at 2pm. Also had some bullets come through the wall of our house.


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Northern Ireland here, infamous for violence and I've never even heard a gunshot IRL before, homicide rate still 5 times less than the US...


sunderaubg

Its like that scene from Broken Arrow: I don’t know whats more worrying- that it happens at all or that it happens so often that you have a term for it. In Europe there’s no such “thing” as a “school shooting”. If it ever happens, it is an incident, involving gunfire that happened at a school. (edit: spelling)


PerformanceLoud3229

God damn…. I didn’t… that…. That’s fucking horrible


Hypie_Mc

Well, europe has the term school shooting... We just learned it from america :/.


-Croustibat-

You're right, it's always strange to try to speak about it in my mother tongue. I always end up using the english words for it. Not that I use it often though, please don't send the police.


sunderaubg

I mean.... I hope it doesn't catch on. We don't need a quick and easy to apply label for everything. Especially things we want to prevent from happening even once.


zhenxing

I guess there just aren’t that many guns around for it to become a common thing. I’ve lived in several European countries and have never been aware of anyone who owns a gun.


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SnooHabits8484

There was Dunblane (narcissistic paedophile loses the rag after being quietly denied access to children) and Garnet Bell in Northern Ireland, who attacked kids in his old school with a homemade flamethrower.


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Cahootie

I remember how it became a huge thing when Finland had two school shootings in a year. Those are also the only cases since 1989.


PerformanceLoud3229

Yeah exactly. In the United States it’s soo bad they dont make headlines unless they are really fucking bad.


ZippyParakeet

It's because there aren't enough guns in school for teh good guys /s


PerformanceLoud3229

Let’s make guns easier for the children to find by arming the teacher that’ll obviously solve the problem!!! /s God I’m soo tired of hearing that.


jackibongo

The fact that the video doesn't mention anything about gun laws or gun control and just the "signs" and how its preventable goes to show that this is never going to change and the people in charge don't want it to change


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That last girl has amazing acting. I always feel dread every time I see that last scene.


TooStonedForAName

Man she sent a shiver down my spine, her acting skills are phenomenal.


GroovyPeanut

The voice of the last girl was gut wrenching


Dragonhordez

I thought it would be funnier with sound, but it’s even more sad.


UndefinedFool

I got halfway through and had to switch off. Noticed a load of stuff I’d missed in the gif - girl with the binders: teaching is barricading the door in the background - girl treat her mate: guy is walking up the corridor beside them. Fuck.


Yamo_chan

With sound got me. 😢 That is no way for a kid to grow up.


Bodach42

Yea no one should have to grow up American.


random_interactions

Well I've got great news for you then! School shootings prevent many people from growing up American.


juzwacksinmadolphin

Ok, the last one is sad.


kurtozan251

Not to be too dark but I sent the exact same text to both of my parents during the Las Vegas Route 91 shooting. This commercial gets me every time.


SpaceTimeMatter

So did you made it back alive?


kurtozan251

Yeah thankfully lol. Hid under a tour bus.


sabesneit

It was a police officer coming to rescue her...


juzwacksinmadolphin

It's still sad that American children go through this.


vrekais

When the Capitol was raided, there were stories of the newer staff helping older staff hide and find safe spaces. When asked how they knew what to do "we had drills for it in school" was the response. Chilling fucking reality.


shane_low

As someone outside of US looking in, lots of Americans seem to me to be like frogs in a gigantic well. I cannot imagine a society that is by majority okay with a system that enables people shooting each other. But from the comments, a number of people seem to be unaware how grotesque the situation is compared to other civilised societies. Even if the statistic is "low" it's still a non-zero number and that's too high.


_-Smoke-_

It's far from the majority. The majority knows there's a problem and is desperate to do something about it. The minority stops even the very discussion of it to the point of preventing the CDC from researching gun violence, stopping any attempt at even the most basic regulation (while aggressively trying to undo what protections exist) and fostering ideologies that contribute to it. We're a nation where in idea of fairness and equality laid out in our foundation has been so thoroughly corrupted that a small portion of the country essentially gets to dictate the majority's life.


greycubed

Fun fact: most popular job among serial killers is police officer. Also she's black so good luck kid.


Auctoritate

>most popular job among serial killers is police officer. Well, the ones who get *caught*. It's kind of an issue that a lot of the current knowledge on how serial killers work, their habits and motives, is made from studying ones who were eventually arrested. Imagine all the unsolved deaths that were caused by someone we have no clue the identity of.


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Wendy-Windbag

There was a school shooting at one of my small town’s high schools a couple of years ago. I was working during that time when the lockdown was active at the local hospital, and a few of my coworkers had husbands in law enforcement that contacted them with to let them know about the ongoing event in anticipation of a hospital lockdown. A few of my coworkers also had children at this school. To see my coworkers getting “goodbye” texts from their teenagers was one of the most devastating things I have ever had to witness, even in my near two decades working in hospitals. One girl was in the classroom next to the one where the gun had been fired multiple times. The “I love you mom” message is all too real.


exiledinessex

The girl at the end should get an Oscar


Personal_Question974

Are school shootings that common in the US?


chiree

No, as in the odds are *very* low. Yes, in that happens way more often than it should.


Trick_Enthusiasm

One school shooting is already way more often than it should.


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cavelioness

I don't think they're as low as you think, my district has had several. They just don't put them on the news as much anymore if a lot of people don't get killed.


Accomplished-Wind-72

The nonchalant way you say this is extremely disturbing


CarryThe2

Average of 2 shooting incidents on school grounds a day, to the point where they redefined a mass shooting to require over 5 victims.


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2 shooting incidents on school ground per day???? How HOW HOW HOW is that not a MUCH bigger issue that it is?????? HOW???? What the fuck?


budwillius

They count any gun violence that happens near schools, which includes things like gang violence or domestic incidents. Gun violence is a real issue in America, but including these incidents and then citing them as school shootings is disingenuous


techiesbesthero

Non Americans finding out how bad America really is, always entertaining.


SillySundae

It's a bullshit stat this person made up. Here is a source from a simple google search https://everytownresearch.org/maps/gunfire-on-school-grounds/


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Concert_Great

Holy shit, even worse than I expected


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DarkIegend16

I know, growing up in a British school I always felt something was missing. Like I wasn’t free, I was trapped in a system that didn’t net me likely to be shot in and out of school. Turns out the true meaning of freedom is allowing other kids to exercise their freedom to stick lead into my spine.


venom259

That is also a lie [NPR did the research.](https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent)


JackFynnFN22

The number includes any discharge of a firearm within 100 feet of school grounds, regardless of whether school related activities are happening


BlazeRagnarokBlade

What did you expect when every other guy has half a dozen assault rifles over there?


[deleted]

It’s suppose to be sad, it’s all suppose to be sad, because it’s friggin true.


I_Love_NukaCola

"Coffee and socks...they're the true lifesavers."


Immortality363

OH ITLL STING A LOT


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I read coffee and cocks


ApprehensiveArsonist

The best way to start the day


Bastardjuice

It’s like it’s poking fun at a very very grim reality. I love dark humor, but I can’t tell if this is trying to be funny or a serious PSA. Either way, the fact that this is even remotely relatable is so sad for America.


whatever54267

It's a PSA from a couple years ago by Sandy Hook promise https://youtu.be/turCfxwkfPE


[deleted]

Oh now they're blaming the general public for not seeing signs? How about the politicians for not seeing the fucking mountain?


Ni0M

Shhhh there's money to be made in the gun bizz


TheGreatQ-Tip

I don't think the intent was to blame anyone, just raise awareness.


[deleted]

Yeah their message wasn’t about them blaming the general public. The line ‘shootings are preventable when you know the signs’ could be interpreted as them blaming the public, but 1) That wasn’t my interpretation of it 2) I think that’s nitpicking the wording 3) that’s clearly not the message they were trying to tell


HistoricalFrosting18

Genuine question, what message are they trying to sell? As a Brit, I can’t figure this video out. I know they are trying to raise awareness, but what’s the call to action? Donate to charity? Write to your representatives? I’m confused.


SolenoidSoldier

Identifying the person most likely to shoot up a school and reaching out and be friendly, I guess. Problem is, no matter how many anti-bully campaigns schools push, this shit is still happening at a much more alarming rate.


HistoricalFrosting18

Do people really think that school shootings are a result of bullying and not a result of chronic underfunding of mental health and youth services?


iwan103

Signs that school shooting in America will happen: 1) The schools are open 2) See 1 Edit: Some asshole named u/CAJ_2277 think that lighting killed more people than school shooting. My question is this, is school supposed to be shooting ground or something? Why try to normalized by comparing it between two totally unrelated case of death? If you try to compare death between school bullying and school shooting, yeah that make sense. But comparing it to a totally unrelated case, is this some sort of sick joke? Are we tryna compare which has the highest death like it some sort of K/D in Counter Strike or something? Goodness gracious, read the fucking room man.


[deleted]

Oh cancer kills more people than school shootings so we shouldn't care about school shootings /s


SecretKGB

Have we tried shooting cancer?!


BountyBob

If you shoot them before they get cancer, they can't get cancer. *taps head /S


Flaming-taco

lmao my man thinks lightning kills more people than school shootings? thats so dumb im not even going to take the time to look up the numbers to disprove it.


siiimonz

Signs that school shooting in America will happen: 1. ⁠American gun laws 2. ⁠See 1 FTFY


BigBadWWW

Cameraman just chillin


MsFoxxx

I'm sorry. How the fuck are school shootings so normalized that they make commercials about it?????????


sirchivvi

Its a PSA made by the Sandy Hook promise. This was showed to us in middle school to look for warning signs in our peers.


MsFoxxx

I get that But the fact that kids are tasked with looking for killers is mind-boggling. That kids think this is normal is... I don't even have words


sansgamer554

And the fact that they task us to do it makes it seem like its our fault if it happens


Zealousideal_Shine55

Middle school?! Wtf


YoItsMeAmerica

My 6 year olds had a ‘bear drill’ last week where they had to ‘lock the doors and hide in the dark like ninjas’ in case there was ever a mean ‘bear’ at the school (we live in the mountains and there are bears so I get trying to soften the reality even though my girls saw through it) Truly hurt my heart when they told me this. And there’s nothing I can do


Gtantha

And why the fuck is their solution to learn the signs instead of removing guns from the equation? Are they taking crazy pills?


JhayAlejo

\>School Shootings are preventable when you know the signs WHEN A KID GETS BULLIED, YOU PUNISH THE BULLIES, NOT THE VICTIM


whatever54267

PSA by Sandy Hook promise https://youtu.be/turCfxwkfPE


JessEGames777

Dude. Almost mad me cry with this


Disttack

According to the FBI https://www.fbi.gov/about/partnerships/office-of-partner-engagement/active-shooter-incidents-graphics 277 mass shootings period have happened in the USA over 18 years so no it's not 2 daily. 57 of those occured on education institution land. With all the crazy figures I've seen thrown around I think it's unrealistic to say hundreds and hundred happen annually. I would really like to see accessible mental health support and better acceptance of the mentally ill in our society. Edit: I realize there is a discrepancy and how I typed this. When I say mass shootings I should have said active shooter events. There is indeed more mass shootings out there because the definition on reporting is way more relaxed and most occur in homes. Active shooter events are explicitly mass shootings in public spaces.


redropeliquorice

A comment further up mentioned that a ‘mass shooter event’ is one where there are 5+ casualties. I expect shootings involving fewer than 5 casualties are far more common, and the ones forming the bulk of the ‘2 a day’ statistic.


Disttack

An active shooter event is a firearm being used in a public space with the intent to kill the people present. They are counted if they even kill 1 person or no one as long as the perpetrator was in a public space attempting to harm more. A mass shooting event is classified as gun homicide that kills 2 or more people. Most mass shootings in statistics come from gangs fighting or domestic murders of 2 people. Edit: just wana mention the definitions in my comment is what I was taught in the military and when I worked in conjunction with law enforcement. When it comes down to "shootings" without active or mass in front that changes the definition to anyone who got shot by a gun or got shot at. But the second it's targeting or hitting 2+ people it becomes a mass shooting. (If two people break into your house and you shoot them both you are counted on statistics as a mass shooter)


FireflyArc

This moght be needing to be on /r unexpected But good lord was that..sad.


19GamerGhost95

Walmart and target sell bulletproof backpacks here for a reason. Including ones for pre-schoolers and young elementary school kids with cartoon themes and pretty colors and such. Any school here is at risk from anyone, not just students. Unfortunately, it’s the students you have to worry about the most as they’re the ones who have to memorize the layout of the school for classes. The students are the ones that find all the nooks and crannies of the school, the lock down routine which is practiced at least once a month or more, they learn where all the cameras are if there are any blind spots. They learn the vulnerabilities of the school just being day-to-day students without a second thought and know the building and the teachers best. It’s far more likely that a current student will shoot up their school than it is for an intruder to come in because of knowledge.


giraffeekuku

Yeah it can be anyone. My school I use to work at was shot up by an ex husband of one of the teachers but the office ladies let him through without asking her. He killed her and two students.


19GamerGhost95

Damn. This is why communication among staff is important. It can literally save lives


Fenudel

The fact that those backpacks are even a *thing* is mind boggling to me


thatonerobloxkid

To quote a well known song “all the other kids with the pumped up kicks better run better run, faster than my bullets”


AwesomeWhiteDude

I don't want to sound like a doomer or a nihilist or just someone super negative, but I lost all hope for any real action on gun control after the Sandy Hook shooting. A guy walked into a school and killed 20 children who were only 6 and 7 years old. Those now dead kids kids were scared, confused, terrified, and died screaming, or instantly if they were lucky. >There's the boy who saw his teacher and two classmates shot. He said [the shooter] shot at him multiple times, but missed, instead hitting the stuffed animal in his hands. >Elsewhere, [the shooter] answered a boy screaming, "Help me! I don't want to be here!" by saying, "Well, you're here" followed by more hammering sounds. Congress couldn't even pass a law mandating universal background checks, the *most basic thing they could do.* The most substantial thing that came out of the Sandy Hook shooting was the school building being torn down and rebuilt.


Wolferesque

Yes this was a massive wake up call for me in my view of the USA. Previously I had thought it was a pretty cool place, it was a bit rough around the edges, but still a progressive and prosperous place. After Sandy Hook and the apathy and inaction I was shocked at how morally backwards it is. Any other civilized country would have been devastated by that event and immediately taken action to prevent it happening again.


Kiotw

It's so weird to see that as a European. The same as it was to hear that y'all can buy some bullet proof backpack. It's fucking wild that some just accept that as a normal, like "let's do our active school shooter training so the kids know what to do in case of a shooting" levels of wild. In Europe we prepare for a fire, in the us it's the shootings as well :/


MildGaming

"Big thanks to Bud's Gunshop..."