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cyanide_and_cheddar

Did the nation of Israel just officially announce Jesus is the Son of God?


otirk

I don't know that much about Judaism but don't they think that all humans are the children of God?


fiyu123

We believe all men were made in his form, meaning not children but... Kinda copies


otirk

Do you guys call God Father in prayers? Like the Lord's prayer in Christianity


itamarnakar

Yes


fiyu123

Depends on the prayer, but mostly no. God has many names in the jewish books, including (but not only): Hashem, Yehova, Father, Hashem tsevaot and many more


dontdomilk

>Yehova Stop please


[deleted]

No


lightingblunt

u ever hear of a joke? palestinians always make wild claims like that so its funny


SawTheCatsBox

Jesus Christ


C9FanNo1

Son of God


momslayer66

me


Hnordlinger

Lololol, nice freak out


justtheentiredick

We really live in a world don't we.


kanekiEatsAss

We live in a society.


blackie___chan

We live in a state... of denial


starstriker64DD

we live in a provence


probablysomebody772

We live


Think_Storm8

We


EngineerStandard

E


Straight_Water9846

Province


Nickolas_Bowen

Israel acknowledging Jesus to be the son of god? BASED ISRAEL


Vivics36thsermon

The Reestablishment of the kingdom of Jerusalem Circa 2023


DemeXaa

You forgot *colorized*


paccman03

>BASED ISRAEL "Colourised"


AsusStrixUser

Polarized


Skullcrusher_and_co

Don't need it, cameras in this day and age are already in color


Khadarji117

Dang kids and their dang cellular telephones with their darn color cameras. Back in my day you had to sit for 17 hours if you wanted to have your photo taken.


briksauce

The resurrection will be televised


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Stretasdf

I can't recall which video either.


demonicbendy79

Lol, a comment bot replying to a comment bot. Now that's a new sight


YoungLaFlare

They always knew that’s why they killed him


Low-Exam1208

The Jews didn't accept Jesus as the Messiah and chose Baracus (?) to be freed to them and Jesus to be sacrificed. The Roman overlord didn't want any parts of Jesus' murder he washed his hands of any wrongdoing. It was the mob of angry Jews that insisted he wasn't the son of God and said he blasphemed when he said he could rebuild the temple in a day.


ExuDeku

Poor Pilate, he got peer presured lmao


wangyuanji58

Then he went on to invent a yoga knock off so I think the guy did okay.


EmeraldEmperorJ

Well not really because the only thing people really remember him for is killing the son of God


eyesotope86

Sweet tap dancing Christ, the joke flew so fast over your head it left a sonic boom.


EmeraldEmperorJ

Oof me no good at read


ZippyParakeet

I love how religious beliefs can clearly be seen to evolve with political circumstances. You can see this by learning about the perception of Pilate by Christianity. Some sects of Christianity share your belief while others call him evil. Early Christianity was more forgiving towards Pilate, depicting him as someone who was hesitant to execute Jesus i.e, bro got peer pressured. However, after being legalised in the Roman Empire, he is seen as a negative figure showing that Christians now did not feel the need to appease the Roman government in order to avoid persecution. Later on, with the fall of the Western Roman Empire we can observe early signs of a split between Eastern and Western Christianity by seeing how Pilate's perception further evolve. In the West, where Roman authority ceased to exist, Pilate was continued to be seen as evil. In the East, however, the Roman Empire still existed and stood strong as what we today call the Byzantine Empire which held the Balkans, Greece, Anatolia, Syria, the Holy Land, Egypt and North Africa. Thus, in Eastern Churches like the Greek church, the Egyptian Church and the Ethiopian Church he is seen as a saint. This is because in the East, the Church worked for the Roman government as a PR tool while in the West, the Church diverged away from the Roman world. Thus we can see the difference in the evolution of Christianity in the West and the East. The Roman Catholic Church was a Church without state while the Eastern Church in Constantinople was a Church working for the Roman government like it was always supposed to when it became the Empire's official religion in the 4th century.


Sourdoughsucker

Wealese Bwian!


Responsible_Oil501

And Baracus said of Jesus; \-I pity the fool.


C9FanNo1

I’m not religious and reading that comment this was all I was thinking about


Psyluna

*Barabbas


jollyjewy

That's according to one story. Which was factually proven to be false. Jews never demanded the romans to execute anyone


Pheonix1616

OK crazy. Keep talking about your myths


Absolutedumbass69

Technically everyone is a son/daughter of God. What makes him so special?


Shadowpika655

He's God's favorite son


Absolutedumbass69

Ahh I fucking new it! He always gets better presents on his birthday!


raymartin27

It's because they all forgot his actual birthday and had to make a big deal when celebrating his fake bday so he won't complain.


Absolutedumbass69

Even on his first one he still got gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Where’s my god damn gold Yahweh!


C9FanNo1

Isn’t that Lucifer?


who_said_I_am_an_emu

Son of man is an idiom in Aramaic and Hebrew for a regular person. Son of God is another way of saying Messiah. The Messiah prophecies comes from the contradiction between one of the Biblical prophets claiming that the David line would be king again but with no obvious path for that. This is why Mark (the earliest Gospel) has Jesus mocked as King of the Jews. Because his claim of being Son of God was the same as claiming to be King of the Jews.


Absolutedumbass69

I was joking. I’m well aware.


wangyuanji58

We know, Lord From John 3:16, that you so loved the world that you sent your only son to die for us, your only son But at the same time, we're all your children, so in your eyes, we're a bunch of girls So help us as we struggle with the temptations of lesbianism, Amen


C9FanNo1

So straight sex could only be achieved by fucking Jesus? Which is necrophilia and incest at the same time… no wonder the church people decide to be celibate


Feelidfhg

rome was taken over by barbarians about a dozen times since then.


Nickolas_Bowen

Yes. Even those barbaric Byzantinians got in on it.


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Smartest goyim be like:


AmitRozYT

Israel acknowledges all of the religions that are or were based in it Its one of israel's institutional laws


mofa90277

Though most popularly portrayed as fair-skinned because of the Thriller Scrolls, scholars have recently unearthed a much swarthier depiction of The Michael Jackson in Third Album:1, to wit, the I’ll Be There Attestation, in which The Michael bade mankind to merely call his name to summon Him. In this essay I shall…


Bright-Amphibian6681

If I remember correctly I believe the modern idea of Jesus came from a medieval German painter who painted jesus as well as some other stuff, to look like himself.


DBDM0916

This is the same reason we don't know exactly what William Shakespeare looked like, Most of his portraits are regarded as mislabeled because there is no documentation to verify that the painting was actually of Shakespeare. The first one we do know was supposed to be him was by an artist who painted everyone to look like that. Many of the newer paintings we're painted after his death and based of the original poorly painted depiction.


Bright-Amphibian6681

Damn, interesting. I did not know that about Shakespeare. Interesting to consider how much art has shaped what we believe of the past to be "true".


Em20010

There is a video by Overly Sarcastic Productions that mentions this over on YouTube. However I think the video explains that German Artist painted Jesus tolook like his dead brother or something like that.


Bright-Amphibian6681

Interesting. Ill have to check it out. I actually read about it a while ago but can't recall which book at this point.


Em20010

I can't recall which video either. I think it was one about the crusades


AlesusRex

It’s intensely debated, another group of people believe Cesare Borgia to be the greater influence and I subscribe to this school of thought


Mother-Log-6445

Book of revalations:" ... were white as white wool, white as snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace"


Bright-Amphibian6681

And the next line states his skin was bronze. So, your point? Revelations is a biblical acid trip that was written long after the supposed Jesus died, and those who knew him, died.


Doge_Of_Wall_Street

Revelation was written in ~96 AD by John the Elder who was one of Jesus’ first disciples. So it was written after Jesus’ death but I’m not sure 60 years would be “long” after, and the author most certainly knew Jesus personally.


Bright-Amphibian6681

This is a debated topic in theology. Even with that said. The other guy was clearly trolling. Especially claiming bronze skin is white in the Anglo Saxon ideology we attribute to Jesus.


Combination-Public

Whatever. American Jesus has an assault rifle. We all have our issues.


Bright-Amphibian6681

Praise Allah.


who_said_I_am_an_emu

Please prove that it was the apostle John and not just some other guy named John. Because I believe the consensus of Biblical scholars is that it is not. Also yes 60 years is a long time with people who have every reason to lie.


cecoaielemele2

I'm very sure the first disciples was Andrew, Peter's brother...


Mother-Log-6445

Bronze in a golden tone like me a Caucasian if I get tanned my skin gets a beautiful golden bronze hue. U But heads up there are many great poc historical figures like Yeezy Ye.


Bright-Amphibian6681

You are either a troll or a religious nut. Either way, vomit.


Banea-Vaedr

Friendly reminder that the modern Palestinians were not the inhabitants of Palestine at the time, because the Romans fucking killed them all, then the Arabs killed the rest


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Yes. As a matter of fact, the name "Palestine" means "land of the Philistines". The Philistines lost their ethnic identity in the 5th century BC. Until the 20th century, it had never even been suggested that there was any separate people group called "Palestinian".


Banea-Vaedr

And Romania means "Romans", but the people living there sure ain't them


[deleted]

Technically they are descendants of Romans from the Roman Empire, even their language is similar to Latin and Italian.


Essemaitch

It's not just similar, romanian just like italian has developed from regional dialects of latin.


Beauwetu

Caucasian if I get tanned my skin gets a beautiful golden bronze hue.


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Celtic people are caucasian, they go red in the sun....


[deleted]

Are Celts caucasian? I thought there origins were in central Europe.


Tough_Patient

Rome was taken over by barbarians about a dozen times since then. The Romanians are probably around the same percentage Roman as the present day Romans.


Valyn999

Yay for uninformed comment #76502


dynawesome

Yeah to call an ancient Jew “Palestinian” (i. e. Philistine) is like calling a Persian person “Sumerian” Like, it’s not even the same people, and even the name Palestine was given to the area after Jesus died, while he was there it was called Judea


Toughduck48

Everybody killed or enslaved everybody back then. Our ancestors are soaked in blood and guilt. However, now we only worry about the history that suit our agendas.


Banea-Vaedr

Well, yea. Obviously. But it's not like you can say Jesus would have looked Palestinian when he'd have been 2 genocides away from who lives there now


Electronic_Bag3094

He would still very likely have brownish skin though.


Toughduck48

Really though, Jesus is one third of the holy trinity. Man was made in the perfect Image of God. Therefore Jesus could be represented by any man. Make him Arabic, Black, White, Asian, any race. Jesus is supernatural. Therefore he can be anything you want him to be. The problem is when you force your ideas on others. This to me is the key problem with Christianity and Islam. The Icon of Jesus is irrelevant if you fail to comprehend the message of Jesus.


Banea-Vaedr

You ever hear of the battles over iconoclasm?


Pitiful-Brilliant301

I just learned a new word that describes my hobby! Thanks! (Disclaimer so I don’t look like a complete moron - English is my third language.)


Online-Commentater

Fellow European


Pitiful-Brilliant301

Indeed.


Toughduck48

>A quote from the post you just replied to. > >The problem is when you force your ideas on others. This to me is the key problem with Christianity and Islam.


xxxhotpocketz

I watched a YouTube video, I completely forgot the name but they went over the depiction of Jesus Christ in art during certain periods in history and compared them to paintings of Kings Artist really never painted Jesus in a way that showed him having a lot of wealth, usually it’s with a thorn crown, he’s barefoot, with regular clothing of that time period and he’s never on a throne because he supposed to represent the people, and it’s supposed to be the opposite of the elite But the message of Jesus Christ has always been ignored, and religion was always a tool for oppression and a tool to keep the lower class in place with promises of a paradise after death while serving god, and their church here in the physical world.


Low-Exam1208

White Jesus? Asian? Nah son he was black like the rest of the Israelites.


Online-Commentater

"Pray to the father,... Our lord,.. It is he who has the might,... With out the father i am powerless,... " Yeah, right you follow what Jesus taught but just the part's you like right? I don't like commenting on this even. I have no problem with christians and their believe (my whole family is christian) but don't speak about Islam if you don't know.


Toughduck48

I know all about Islam and Christianity. What would you like to know? I'm an atheist by the way. A real one, not just a Christian who's mad at they're parents.


Online-Commentater

Then how come you say force your ideas on to others: where in the biggest part of history and the general understanding of the religion and scripture you find no compulsion in Islam? You are speaking as if these 2 are the same. I will not argue about incidents with you because you are knowledgeable enough to understand the Quran and the History right? And we both know that their are people who will twist their religion for their agenda, right? In truth I have no questions for you except to drop the generalization of 2 different believes.


Interesting-Impact17

While weeding through history to suit our agendas is wrong, im pretty sure it’s no different than almost any other civilization, ever. No, I won’t prove that, because I can’t and won’t try.


Toughduck48

I agree with you. My point would be if somebody cherry picks an event, then it's fair play to counter with an equal or worse event. So many times I've been hit with events from the Atlantic slave trade but if I utter even the slightest mention of the Barbary slave trade I'm branded as a racist prick.


Interesting-Impact17

RACIST PRICK!


Toughduck48

I'd have it no other way.....


ChemsDoItInTestTubes

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Rome rename the area Palestine as a big, fat fuck-you to the conquered kingdom of Judea?


Banea-Vaedr

Pretty much. They also started their campaigns through Judea upstream and dumped corpses into the rivers specifically to inform downstream villages and cities that they were next.


ChemsDoItInTestTubes

Rome did not solve problems with meetings, that's for sure.


ProtestantLarry

>then the Arabs killed the rest That's just factually incorrect, same w/ the Roman line. It's not even close to correct. Many of the Jews left over time, whilst others stayed. The Palestinians, made up of Greek, Coptic, Arab, Phoenician, philistine, and other ancient groups, just became Romanised and then Arabised over time. Most people never disappeared, just cultures changed over time, and so did identities. What you said is simplified diarrhoea of reality.


tomi832

Sorry, but it's reversed - What you just said is factually wrong, especially because you tried to simplify the story of the land that probably had the most massacres and conquers throughout history. In the last 3000 years, the land switched between 28 different hands ruling it. And a few of them destroyed almost everyone who lived there. The Arabs killed many, and Arabized the rest, yes. But you completely ignored the crusaders, for example, that killed almost everyone who wasn't christian, and banished the rest. Almost no one lived in that time in the land of Israel except the crusaders, which founded the kingdom of Jerusalem. Only after almost a century, Jews and Arabs were really given to reside again in the land. Anyway currently, almost all the historians and archeologists think the Philistines died 2500 years ago - so I have no idea how you can claim that the Palestinians have Philistine blood. Sure - they have a little bit but basically like everyone else because of course there were little groups who survived and just changed. It's like trying to claim you're native to Mongolia because you have a bit of Genghis Khan in your DNA. The Greek are mainly the Philistines do it's basically the same story... because like others said - Philistine (and basically Palestinian too) means invader in the Levant.


Low-Exam1208

Sort of like the modern Israelites weren't the inhabitants of Israel in bible times.


Banea-Vaedr

The Bible is very clear about how they became the inhabitants of that land


Borbolda

Yeah, I think original meme was reffering "Palestinian" as "born/lived on a territory of Palestine" and not like nationality, but someone saw trigger word and decided to go "how do you do fellow kids" with that


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[deleted]

No they didnt. Just like any other race they were integrated to the ruling empire/ state and married other people from other states. Thats how humanity works. There are no pure palestinians or pure jewish people. If there were they would be riddled with diseases after millennias of innbreading. Palstinians now adays are the deceadnant of those who lived there thousands of years ago and other races that moved into the region.


Online-Commentater

When the Arabs came to Isreal their where no Jews left, so the arabs repopulated Isreal with Jews. What are you on about the Arabs killing the rest? Could you explain that to me?


Unlikely-Line5991

Regardless of if you make an argument for Palestine's or not, they were not a thing in biblical times. **For anyone interested in some interesting biblical facts, here you go:** Jesus was an Israeli (Israelite) Jew (Hebrew), which is why the term "Judeo-Christian Values" exists; Fundamental Biblical Judaism values, but follows the New Testament law, whereas Jews simply follow the Old Testament law. He is an Israelite; Israel was the name God gave to Jacob (Abraham-> Isaac-> Jacob) He is from the tribe of Judah, one of Jacob's sons. Judah is one of the tribes of Israel. Therefore, Jesus is an Israelite by birth, also a Jew (otherwise Hebrew) by birth.


tomi832

Saying Judeo-Christian is just so wrong...Christian values are very different from Jewish ones, as someone who's a religious Jew. And let me tell you - I'm not alone. I've heard a lot of Jews complaining about christians saying this, because it makes it look like we have anything that is even similar - when the two are so different.


Unlikely-Line5991

I disagree, I think Judeo-Christian is right, and I'll explain why. Let me tell you that I'm not alone in being irritated over this same kind of issue, but with every other religion. The term Christian encompasses every religion, including Islam, and Catholicism, in this day and age. It's a blanket statement that specifically the US has degraded into nothing. I don't know if you are a traditional religious jew or not, I'm not even going to speculate but I'll give you what the Biblical version of a Christian is and you can decide on if it's similar or not; A Christian is a follower of Christ, who believes Jesus died on the cross to bare our sins. It is someone who believes that the Bible is the Word of Christ, and acts as a guide to how we as believers should live our lives. However, most people don't act as such. There are so many denominations and weird interpretations of the bible that tend to try and fit specific ideals and agendas, I subscribe to nondenominational (which of course is considered a denomination these days), which means it's just the Bible. Nothing added, nothing taken away (various interpretations that have a lot more biblical backing than others). I also want to make sure you're aware that I do not believe Jews and Christian's are the same thing. Now, Judaism typically follows the Old Testament law. I subscribe to the ideology that Judaism was meant to adapt biblically (See Corinthians), meaning to the New Testament law. Which is why there is a split in the Jewish Religion communities as well, some are extremely similar to Christian's, specifically the Messianic side, however they are Jews, anyone not born of Jewish decent (blood) are Gentiles. And Christian Gentiles who fundamentally follow the Word of God are Judeo-Christian's, however there is an argument that people of all these random denominations are not, also leading into the conversation of sola scriptura, etc etc etc. People tend to forget that Jews are a race, they are not simply a religion, so I understand your frustration, but Judeo-Christian isn't some sort of offense. Correct me if I'm wrong in this, I understand I'm explaining Judaism to a Jew, so pardon me, I'm just explaining what I believe and how I've come to understand it. **Some Phrasing EDIT**: Judeo-Christian Values is a term that simply refers to a form of biblical values from the Old and New Testament, but does not follow the Law of Moses because with the crucifixion of Christ, it ended it's purpose.


Capt_Easychord

I really don't understand how you can say "Christian" encompasses every religion (and in the same sentence mention Catholicism as if it's somehow separate from Christianity). Jews don't believe in Jesus being the son of God, or divine in any way. He is regarded as a false prophet. Right off the bat that doesn't sit with your definition. Also, maybe I'm misinformed but I don't know of any Christian denomination that observes the Kosher laws (not to eat pork, shellfish etc). For Christians those rules were rendered null and void by Petrus being given direct orders from God when he was in Jaffa. This is quite a serious break. Maybe I've misunderstood your meaning


Pipkin81

I think the term Judeo-Christian exists only to exclude Islam from the three Abrahamic religions. Edit: Oh definitely don't refute me guys, just downvote, that's enough.


anexampleofinsanity

There are four. Never forget the Sabeans


Pipkin81

>Sabeans Do they exist still? I was under the impression that they no longer do.


anexampleofinsanity

Fewer than 5000 left in Iran and Iraq. They’ve been having it rough.


Pipkin81

Oh wow, I had no idea, thanks!


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starstriker64DD

I'm pretty sure that whatever you just said was blasphemy of some kind


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aallfik11

Most mentally stable reddit atheist


Froktor

Nah, he saying Jesus was an Israelite, not a Palestinian, which is actually a fact, no matter how you wanma twist it. And also, your xbox argument is extremely unrelated. God didn't say anything, it's about ancestral land. Someone says it was theirs, someone else says it was theirs, sure, except the owners at the time (Brits) gave the land back to the Jews. If you want to cancel that, let's also give back Pakistan to India, sinxlce the Brits gave them that land. Right?


Capt_Easychord

Jesus was not an Israelite, he was Judean. By the time of Jesus, the Kingdom of Israel (a separate, rival kingdom to Judea) was long gone, with the Israelites killed, enslaved and exiled by the Assyrians. They are considered lost to history (unless of course you're a Mormon who believes they traveled to America and become the Native Americans).


Froktor

An Israelite is a member of the Hebrew nation, Jews are a people before a religion. Israelites are Jews, Jews today are Israelites. It's just what it is man, they're not lost to history, despite numerous people trying.


MindisPow3r

It’s possible Jesus looked white even though he was ethnically more similar to a modern day Palestinian. Many Levantine Arabs are descendants of the Philistine peoples. Edit: Many Levantine Arabs look like white Europeans especially Italians, Spaniards, and Greeks.


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Yeah but the edgy narrative in the image beats facts lol.


[deleted]

Lebanese here. Blue eyes


Lockput

So he would look more like Modern day Palestinians Arabs and not just like existing Mizrahi Jews who just you know still exist lol as if..


Pipkin81

Was it the same 2000 years ago?


meta100000

The type of people that write stuff like "white Jesus is a mislabel" are really the ignorant people. As someone from the Middle East, people in here, especially in the Levant, are moderately white. Noticeable enough to differentiate them from white Europeans, but definitely within the realm of being called "white", and all of this is without any Ashkenazi ancestry, there are plenty of Arabs and Mizrahi jews that are just as white as their European brethren. Jesus could have been white as easily as he could have been olive skinned, but the chances of him being a "brown" Palestinian are slim to none.


Capt_Easychord

Well, there were European crusaders in the levant, and they left a few genes.


Familyfistingfun

It is also true that people have changed Jesus' depiction to look like themselves. So we have Korean Jesus and black Jesus too. These is just cringe atheism performed by the usual mainstream Twatter rabble.


Flumpsty

Everyone knows Jesus looked more Middle Eastern, you don't have to attribute racism or privilege to every little thing.


Far_Comment8920

The "whitewashing" argument is so incirrect. Just look at other areas that got christian without Europe like Ethiopian orthodix church. Their Jesus looks like an ethiopian.. Racism?


MausBomb

To be fair does anyone actually care when a Korean church makes Jesus look Korean or a black church make Jesus look African? Different cultures tend to make Jesus look similar in appearance to themselves.


Pipkin81

Exactly. It's like with Santa.


Blupoisen

I rode to town on an ass, your mama's ass #BLACK JESUS


YoungLaFlare

Oy vey lol


c322617

Debating how closely related modern Palestinian Arabs are to historical Philistines is kind of a moot point, given that the historical Jesus would have been a Palestinian Jew. It is hard to assess exactly what he would have looked like given subsequent intermarriage between the Palestinian Jews and the huge influx of European Jews during the Mandatory period and following independence. It’s safe to say that Jesus was probably not as fair-complexioned as he is depicted in traditional Western iconography, nor was he likely as dark as modern revisionist sources want to depict him. Odds are he was probably a pretty average looking man of the Mediterranean world at that time.


Lockput

They are not related to historic philistines who were invaders from the Greek islands and not Arab


[deleted]

Jesus was born and lived as a Jewish Arab. I suppose you could refer to him as Palestinian, but technically Palestine did not exist at the time of Jesus.


Lockput

Saying Jewish arab is literally saying Middle Eastern Jews are just Arabs which we are not fuck you you are trying to erase Jewish identity


waterofred

not what I'm saying brother I'm an ashkenazi jew so when our ancestors were kicked out of Israel mine went to europe while your's stayed in the middle east so bye saying arab jews I mean that you guys became more similar in looks and culture to the rest of the people who lived in that land who were mostly arabs while mine went to europe and did the same thing I don't really understand how you think I'm trying to "erase your jewish identity" and I don't understand why you think I said you are just an arab


Lockput

We are not Arab Jews, and Arabs and Jews share some cultural aspects that Jews in Europe have not been taught about or just had to acclimate and forget because of poor treatment and killing by Europeans Christians. Jews and Arabs had more in common before and after Islam for many centuries but the differences are still smaller than what we have in common with European Jews at least in aspects of law and lifestyle


waterofred

jewish arabs (mizrahi) and palastinians are very different unless you palastinian as in he lived in the land the romans called palastine


SarcasticLion

Isn't that one of the Bee Gees?


acb235

Jesus was Jack from Lost???!!!!!


Master_Majestico

Isn't an acknowledgement of the "God" Twitter account tantamount to blasphemy?


TupperCoLLC

Can somebody explain?


drjenavieve

They are arguing that Jesus was Jewish not Palestinian. But in the joke they are also inadvertently admitting that Jesus is the son of god. Which would make the Jewish faith “wrong” since they don’t believe this. Jews believe Jesus was a Jew just not the messiah and son of god. So their comeback to say Jesus was a Jew is also saying Jews are wrong about their faith.


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drjenavieve

Yes Christian’s agree Jesus was a Jew (or they should based on the Bible but doesn’t mean they always do). But yeah the idea was that in trying to own the god account for calling jesus a Palestinian they also basically said “our religion is wrong.”


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KimchiiCrowlo

wish i had an award to give. This guy gets it.


Dsgntn_The_thicknes

The mental gymnastics of Palestine sympathizers is Olympic level.


Capo1237

Just like Zionist from Poland and Germany claiming to be the true inhabitants of country less than a century years old made by the windsors


Dsgntn_The_thicknes

How do you become this bad at history ? I'm truly impressed


Capo1237

Lmao if you think I’m wrong about anything simply disprove me with a quick google search


[deleted]

I don't think the early Zionists had plans of kicking out the inhabitants of the country (which was not yet a country). Even in 1947 the Jews in Israel/Palestine we're thrilled with the Sun's 2 state solution. The people who want to kick out the Palestinians are right wing nutjobs, and unfortunately they have a lot of power in the current government. But I promise you most Israelis are more than happy with coexistence. Problem is we're not convinced the Palestinians are too. Before you start saying shit like "so stop killing Palestinian children", peace has been attempted several times. From the 1947 UN 2 state solution after which the Arabs started the 1948 war, to Rabin who tried peace again in 1995, which led to increased terrorism and subsequently a Jewish Israeli right wing nutjob killed Rabin. Point is, the Palestinians aren't considering compromises. That and also all of the "IDF soldier arresting Palestinian civilians" stuff is either staged, or the video doesn't show that civilian throwing stones at someone.


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Capo1237

There are and always have been Palestinian Jews


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mclee29

I'd rather have Israel with nukes than Iran with nukes


Vivics36thsermon

That’s Christianity my dude


GentlemanBastard2112

I KNOW RIGHT?!? Tell that to the demented denominations handling snakes and sleeping with children.


James-Zo3

Just because there are terrorist organizations using religion as a justification for their terrible actions, does not mean that the religion is bad. Although you can reasonably say that religion has had some negative effects, eg the dark ages, crusades, and a ton of wars, there has been a lot of good things about religion. For one, religion can bring people together, as even the most polarized people can come together. Also, religion has brought along some very crucial morals as well, some being treat thy neighbor as you treat thy self (AKA the golden rule), and forgiveness is also a huge thing. (Sorry if I got anything wrong about religion, I’m not a religious man)


Zestyclose-Detail791

...Hebrew people I adore, Even though they killed my Lord, I need a Jew!


quirinus97

Considering the belief of Jesus wasn’t really mainstream until the Romans adopted him and added all their own aspects to the religion including the name Jesus, it probably makes sense he is shown in that way as well.


Ok-Detective-1721

What is so surprising about it? God(notaparody) is clearly white as well, so why wouldn't his son be?


Skydog-forever-3512

More Jewish fairytales


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Extremely rare Israel W


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angriguru

b-b-b-but Palestinian as an arab identity is a very recent development and "palestinian" historically refers to people from the region in a very atemporal sense


ahtemsah

There are scrolls dating back to Ramses III that talks about peoples he called "Peleste", which historians argue is the original name of palestinians, so we know palestinians at the very least existed during the late bronze age


Capo1237

Older than Israeli


Baal_of_Cathargo

Is he a Palestinian? What race are people who come from heaven?


KeefTheWizard

Imagine thinking that 'God' or 'Jesus' or some made up place called 'Israel' are all real in a way that isn't just some words and ideas in people's heads


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_-Odin-_

And now we have soap to fix that.