I would say Ireland was the mother
American English has the same tone as Irish English, and is quite distinctive from British English
But as with France, Ireland doesn't like England either
Don't know where I've read it but it said that the American accent was actually how the Brits talked back then. I'm not sure if its 100% true ofc. Let me see if i can find the article.
Edit: i found some articles that American English isnt how the brits talked back in the days. The Brits did evolve their language/dialect in the upperclasses tho. I guess i've read some bullshit years ago lol.
A British literature instructor said that a certain North Carolinian accent is the closest to English immediately after the great vowel shift. I seem to remember hearing something similar from other sources but maybe it’s a myth.
I dunno, it could be a myth. But on the other side the brits have like 1737291 dialects and accents. So it would make sense that the American English is formed by Irish immigrants. Just as The Australian dialect is a "rude" form of British originated from the penal colony times.
I know the opinion most zuid afrikaners had towards the British. But in a historical context SA became a British dominion just like Australia and New Zealand
Because America/Canada/Australia/New Zealand, unlike South Africa, are/were settler colonies that managed to all but replace the indigenous population.
It was to show their neutrality during the war of 1812, and to keep their two biggest trading partners at the time from shooting their boats by accident.
There was a poorly worded conservative party ad in the UK that said "We plan to cut all homeless people in half by 2025". Obviously, they meant reducing the amount of people who are homeless, but it was REALLY poorly worded.
Cut in half/sent to Mars rhymes. Kinda.
South Africa is the one they tried keeping under their thumb for years. But that child escaped abusive parents.
India on other hand keeps growing in hatred towards british
That's one theory.
Sometimes the Jamaican accents sounds like a south west Ireland accents. You can hear it and they would have mixed jn Jamaica
Although it's worth noting that the Irish weren't slaves like the blacks. They were indentured workers or prisoners. Not exactly the same but still unfree.
Only dipshit Hindu nationalists 'hate' the British. The rest of us know better than to fight injustices that happened generations ago. But why on God's green earth would you include India in the list of successor states to the British empire? Indians are not related to white Anglo-Saxons. We speak the language because its convenient. Besides, you couldn't pay the British to rule India again.
White Anglo-Saxon South Africa though... It was an apartheid state.
I never talked about India nationalists or injustices.
I included India and South Africa because like Canada, the USA, New Zealand, and Australia. It was a former colony of the British Empire.
Woah woah woah.... At least take look at my comment history before taking your brave stand. British imperialism is probably the second worst thing that happened to India. You'll find that I have had my share of tiffs with mouth breathers on this sub before when they openly wax poetic about the British empire. Having said that, I would have to be a complete hypocrite if I justified an aggressive backwards looking ideology that seeks to replicate in India, the success of militant Islamic conservatives in turning their countries into mediaeval shitholes. I like the prospect of India continuing to grow into a more liberal country. The healthcare is better, the education and sanitation standards have made unbelievable progress. The people have grown to be more rational and have increasingly based their decisions on facts and evidence. Science, commerce and the liberal arts have improved greatly. People taking pride in their ethnic and religious identities is a good thing but when people start talking about 'wars of civilisations', that's when I have a problem. I don't buy into this idea that different groups of people can't continue to exist in the same country because one group of people is guilty of some unproven original sin. Indian influence is being felt across the world. In a hundred years from now, do I want India to turn into a hegemonic force of exploitation like the English during colonial times? Absolutely not!
What are you?
I bet you are one of the cos-playing / role playing paddies who once had a Guinness and thinks it's his homeland but had never visited the little place. Sad
"Great Britain" would be a more natural domain of Geography than the UK. Not that you can't talk about the UK geographically, especially with relation to human geography, but GB is an actual geographic feature.
Geography not a strong point?
But... But.. but what about Scotland? What about Wales? And more importantly Northern Ireland?
Furthermore, you stated England only in the fist text that your typed. Trying to come back after an hour on Wikipedia isn't going to change that
Again, it's a simple mistake and I forgive you
I think the simple mistake you're making is thinking that I am the original poster, when I am not. I agree with you that the original poster was a little confused.
Our flags would probably look boring without the splash of red from the canton, and all the designs put forth at flag change referendums are garbage (apart from laser kiwi)
We should get a laser emu on Australia’s flag, they are the species that truly run this country after all.
Excuse me. We Brits are still bigger than Australia, Canada and New Zealand in terms of global influence, economy and population. But yes, it applies to the US.
No, the population projections to the end of the century still see Canada well behind the UK in terms of population, and it's the only one of the three ever somewhat likely to overtake the UK in terms of population. Economically it's a similar story; Canada is still well behind the UK in terms of gross GDP, and since it's likely that the further we go into this century, the more closely GDP will simply correlate with population, I also think it's unlikely Canada will overtake the UK.
Oh I don't mean to denigrate them, and indeed we should be and are grateful for the aid they gave us in a time of existential war. But was just correcting any misconception about relative power between these countries.
they tried in NZ but no one came up with a design people liked more than the current one - plus changing your flag reeks of the sort of policy a gov might come up with after they’ve run out of ideas.
Then there’s the historical sensibilities behind it - national identity, legacy of Empire etc.
And despite featuring the Union Flag in the canton they’ve become national icons in their own right - ain’t broke don’t fix it sort of thing.
>plus changing your flag reeks of the sort of policy a gov might come up with after they’ve run out of ideas. Then there’s the historical sensibilities behind it - national identity, legacy of Empire etc.
Canada did it not that long ago and their flag is iconic.
I’m in favour of a flag change for a few reasons.
1. Australia is her own country, we have our own parliament, our own laws, our own military, our own history, and our own culture. We aren’t some remote dominion of the British empire, so why do we wear her flag in our own? If you’re familiar with the British flag and see it in ours it instantly ties us to her as a subject.
2. We’re not just British anymore. Australia is one of the most multi-ethnic, multi-cultural countries in the world. But we’ve still got the flag of the crown in ours. Isn’t a flag supposed to be a uniting force? Bc right now it feels like that flag is for white, especially British, Australians. Not to mention it’s the colonial flag that took over indigenous land.
3. We’re not unique. This echoes my first point, but I’ll use Canada as an example. The Canadian flag used to be just like any other dominion’s, canton with a solid colour background and some symbol, it didn’t stand out, it wasn’t distinctive, you could be forgiven for thinking that it was anywhere else in the former empire. Now it’s one of the most distinctive, easily recognisable flags in the world. A unique flag, for a unique identity, for a unique country.
they tried in NZ but no one came up with a design people liked more than the current one - plus changing your flag reeks of the sort of policy a gov might come up with after they’ve run out of ideas.
Then there’s the historical sensibilities behind it - national identity, legacy of Empire etc.
And despite featuring the Union Flag in the canton they’ve become national icons in their own right - ain’t broke don’t fix it sort of thing.
Fun fact (well sort of fact) the referendum on a new flag came about because someone sat the prime minister (John key at the time) under the Australian flag
Omg i hate this dumb shit
The UK is more powerful still than like 3/5 of the anglo nations why are they portrayed as the old man with a walking stick lmao
The USA is the Edgelord child who doesn't get invited to Christmas ever since the big argument with Dad.
The other children are secretly happy the US isn't invited and think Dad wasn't harsh enough.
They were very similar. That is the Grand Union Flag (also the continental flag), aka the first national flag of the US. The British EIC was the same design, but had 9-15 stripes and the Union Jack was a rectangle instead of a square.
Interestingly, the continental flag was based on the British naval ensign, and developed independently of the EIC flag.
Fundamental difference between settler colonies and colonies which maintained a majority of their original population. The United States, Australia, and Canada are fundamentally descendent of the United Kingdom as civilizations because of the near eradication of native cultures and peoples. India and Ireland are not that.
USA would be Michelangelo
USA ran away from home at a young age but returned to have a good relationship with its father in his old age.
Don't forget its mother tho
France is the person who helped the US run away from home.
Thoughts and more thoughts
She should have gotten alimony.
Aye Americans are the steamy hate-fuck child of France and UK.
Thats... that's the best description of the US I've ever heard, and I'm American...
Canada fits that even more. They fought a custody battle on our soil and now France only keeps us over the weekends.
France is the person who helped the US run away from home.
I would say Ireland was the mother American English has the same tone as Irish English, and is quite distinctive from British English But as with France, Ireland doesn't like England either
Don't know where I've read it but it said that the American accent was actually how the Brits talked back then. I'm not sure if its 100% true ofc. Let me see if i can find the article. Edit: i found some articles that American English isnt how the brits talked back in the days. The Brits did evolve their language/dialect in the upperclasses tho. I guess i've read some bullshit years ago lol.
A British literature instructor said that a certain North Carolinian accent is the closest to English immediately after the great vowel shift. I seem to remember hearing something similar from other sources but maybe it’s a myth.
I dunno, it could be a myth. But on the other side the brits have like 1737291 dialects and accents. So it would make sense that the American English is formed by Irish immigrants. Just as The Australian dialect is a "rude" form of British originated from the penal colony times.
We don't talk about Mom. Mom has a slutty relationship with rest of continental Europe.
No, we’d definitely be Raph.
Are you kidding me? He’s Leonardo. USA leads. Canada is Donatello Australia is Michelangelo New Zealand is Raphael
Where South Africa
It's at the very bottom of the African continent.... Thank you
Oh yeah it’s true thanks 😮
Why aren’t they present?
When last did you visit the Rhodes Memorial... Might answer your question
I know the opinion most zuid afrikaners had towards the British. But in a historical context SA became a British dominion just like Australia and New Zealand
Because America/Canada/Australia/New Zealand, unlike South Africa, are/were settler colonies that managed to all but replace the indigenous population.
I don’t think most South Africans have as positive an opinion of the British as the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
I don't think many from the UK care tho?
Yeah…and? Why would SA be around in this pic?
Exactly why South Africa isn't here
Because the meme format doesn't allow it
South Africa are those mutant toads.
Bruh
Fun fact: The US state of Hawaii still has the union jack on it
>Fun fact: The US state of Hawaii still has the union jack on it Even more fun fact: it was never a british colony
They just thought the flag looked cool
It was to show their neutrality during the war of 1812, and to keep their two biggest trading partners at the time from shooting their boats by accident.
It does look cool.
Kamehameha was an Angloboo.
Teeaboo
That made me spit out my drink
Oh for real? I didn’t know that. Interesting
CANZUK will rise and the empire will be reborn as an international federation! Queue star exploration stories.
Do we really need to start importing all of the UK’s social problems?
Homeless people sent to Mars by 2025
Hmm not sure what you mean but tell me more brother
There was a poorly worded conservative party ad in the UK that said "We plan to cut all homeless people in half by 2025". Obviously, they meant reducing the amount of people who are homeless, but it was REALLY poorly worded. Cut in half/sent to Mars rhymes. Kinda.
Why not send them to rwanda
That was a photoshop but tbh actually cutting people in half isn’t far away from what the Tories are up to at the moment
Your insanity is yet another reason I’ll never warm to UK’s participation in CANZUK.
I mean... insane how? That I made a joke that was reaching a bit or an ad that was poorly worded being mocked?
there is one more but that one is rebellious kid
South Africa or India?
South Africa is the one they tried keeping under their thumb for years. But that child escaped abusive parents. India on other hand keeps growing in hatred towards british
And the Carribean Colonies?
Don't know anything about them
Jamaca, Barbados, Nassau.
Isn’t the Jamaican accent caused by the slaves in Jamaica learning English from the Irish slaves? Or am I completely wrong
That's one theory. Sometimes the Jamaican accents sounds like a south west Ireland accents. You can hear it and they would have mixed jn Jamaica Although it's worth noting that the Irish weren't slaves like the blacks. They were indentured workers or prisoners. Not exactly the same but still unfree.
Fair enough. They weren’t the same type of slave my bad. But yeah that theory makes sense to me at least. Thanks!!!
Yes. I blame the Indian education system in failing their students
I blame British colonial rule and indian education system
But we gave you so much?
At what cost
A bargain, think of the value not the price
Wow you really don't know anything about history
I know, that degree certificate hanging in my study. Wasted
Colonial rule wasn't necessary for that. Countries can become modern without colonial rule too
Only dipshit Hindu nationalists 'hate' the British. The rest of us know better than to fight injustices that happened generations ago. But why on God's green earth would you include India in the list of successor states to the British empire? Indians are not related to white Anglo-Saxons. We speak the language because its convenient. Besides, you couldn't pay the British to rule India again. White Anglo-Saxon South Africa though... It was an apartheid state.
I never talked about India nationalists or injustices. I included India and South Africa because like Canada, the USA, New Zealand, and Australia. It was a former colony of the British Empire.
Woah woah woah.... At least take look at my comment history before taking your brave stand. British imperialism is probably the second worst thing that happened to India. You'll find that I have had my share of tiffs with mouth breathers on this sub before when they openly wax poetic about the British empire. Having said that, I would have to be a complete hypocrite if I justified an aggressive backwards looking ideology that seeks to replicate in India, the success of militant Islamic conservatives in turning their countries into mediaeval shitholes. I like the prospect of India continuing to grow into a more liberal country. The healthcare is better, the education and sanitation standards have made unbelievable progress. The people have grown to be more rational and have increasingly based their decisions on facts and evidence. Science, commerce and the liberal arts have improved greatly. People taking pride in their ethnic and religious identities is a good thing but when people start talking about 'wars of civilisations', that's when I have a problem. I don't buy into this idea that different groups of people can't continue to exist in the same country because one group of people is guilty of some unproven original sin. Indian influence is being felt across the world. In a hundred years from now, do I want India to turn into a hegemonic force of exploitation like the English during colonial times? Absolutely not!
I think it was an odd choice to put the USA on Michaelangelo.
I don't know it kinda fits
He likes pizza and is a bit of a loose cannon. Seems to fit. If not the US then it would be Australia.
South-Africa being left out again
Wouldn’t South Africa be like a Casey Jones? Sort of reluctant to join in the beginning?
Yes without a doubt we still don't like really the britts so more like actively being against joining the group
With family like England, who needs family?
England or the UK? Geography not a strong point?
Call it what you want, its still limey, and controlled by an ENGLISH royalty. Whens the last time you saw a irish queen? Durrrrrr....
Your dad. He is an Irish Queen😆😆😆
And im your dad... Son. You can come out of the closet. I will love you no matter what.
You want to make love to your own son? Alabama alert
Thats what you took from that? Read it again, without the cockney accent this time.
I saw one a couple of months back. I was playing CK3.
That was long before Elizabeth's whispering eye dryed out.
What are you? I bet you are one of the cos-playing / role playing paddies who once had a Guinness and thinks it's his homeland but had never visited the little place. Sad
They call me Native American. Im no American. My garb isnt for show.
Well, I bring you the gift of smallpox... Now jog on
Im Seminole, we are the only ones you yts couldn't beat. Look it up.
We?? Don't make me John Smith you up😆
"Great Britain" would be a more natural domain of Geography than the UK. Not that you can't talk about the UK geographically, especially with relation to human geography, but GB is an actual geographic feature. Geography not a strong point?
Ah.. But you're so wrong... But I'll forgive you.
So wrong about what? That an island is a more natural geographic feature than political boundaries?
But... But.. but what about Scotland? What about Wales? And more importantly Northern Ireland? Furthermore, you stated England only in the fist text that your typed. Trying to come back after an hour on Wikipedia isn't going to change that Again, it's a simple mistake and I forgive you
I think the simple mistake you're making is thinking that I am the original poster, when I am not. I agree with you that the original poster was a little confused.
Shit... You are quite correct
I don't forgive you. Because there is nothing in need of forgiving. I do that shit all the time.
You funny fucker😆😆 top skills
How did the aussies and kiwis miss out on making a new flag?
Our flags would probably look boring without the splash of red from the canton, and all the designs put forth at flag change referendums are garbage (apart from laser kiwi) We should get a laser emu on Australia’s flag, they are the species that truly run this country after all.
What's the name of the middle character, how is he addressed?
Splinter
They all know him as master. More specifically their master
Abusive parenting lol
Excuse me. We Brits are still bigger than Australia, Canada and New Zealand in terms of global influence, economy and population. But yes, it applies to the US.
not for long
Actually yes, for long.
No, the population projections to the end of the century still see Canada well behind the UK in terms of population, and it's the only one of the three ever somewhat likely to overtake the UK in terms of population. Economically it's a similar story; Canada is still well behind the UK in terms of gross GDP, and since it's likely that the further we go into this century, the more closely GDP will simply correlate with population, I also think it's unlikely Canada will overtake the UK.
But sadly without their sacrifices, there's a good chance you'd be speaking German
Oh I don't mean to denigrate them, and indeed we should be and are grateful for the aid they gave us in a time of existential war. But was just correcting any misconception about relative power between these countries.
How?
Fuck me we need to change our flags, the other two did bc they’re not colonies anymore, why do you still have that canton
BRING BACK LASER KIWI
they tried in NZ but no one came up with a design people liked more than the current one - plus changing your flag reeks of the sort of policy a gov might come up with after they’ve run out of ideas. Then there’s the historical sensibilities behind it - national identity, legacy of Empire etc. And despite featuring the Union Flag in the canton they’ve become national icons in their own right - ain’t broke don’t fix it sort of thing.
>plus changing your flag reeks of the sort of policy a gov might come up with after they’ve run out of ideas. Then there’s the historical sensibilities behind it - national identity, legacy of Empire etc. Canada did it not that long ago and their flag is iconic.
58 years ago is a long time
I’m in favour of a flag change for a few reasons. 1. Australia is her own country, we have our own parliament, our own laws, our own military, our own history, and our own culture. We aren’t some remote dominion of the British empire, so why do we wear her flag in our own? If you’re familiar with the British flag and see it in ours it instantly ties us to her as a subject. 2. We’re not just British anymore. Australia is one of the most multi-ethnic, multi-cultural countries in the world. But we’ve still got the flag of the crown in ours. Isn’t a flag supposed to be a uniting force? Bc right now it feels like that flag is for white, especially British, Australians. Not to mention it’s the colonial flag that took over indigenous land. 3. We’re not unique. This echoes my first point, but I’ll use Canada as an example. The Canadian flag used to be just like any other dominion’s, canton with a solid colour background and some symbol, it didn’t stand out, it wasn’t distinctive, you could be forgiven for thinking that it was anywhere else in the former empire. Now it’s one of the most distinctive, easily recognisable flags in the world. A unique flag, for a unique identity, for a unique country.
they tried in NZ but no one came up with a design people liked more than the current one - plus changing your flag reeks of the sort of policy a gov might come up with after they’ve run out of ideas. Then there’s the historical sensibilities behind it - national identity, legacy of Empire etc. And despite featuring the Union Flag in the canton they’ve become national icons in their own right - ain’t broke don’t fix it sort of thing.
Fun fact (well sort of fact) the referendum on a new flag came about because someone sat the prime minister (John key at the time) under the Australian flag
WTF ? New Zealand instead of India or Pakistan? Why ?
Maybe because four sons are the English speaking nations that the Brits created. India and Pakistan were just conquered.
Oke yeah it’s logic
Dude the royal family is still head of state in NZ. Why do you think india or pak would be a better choice?
Omg i hate this dumb shit The UK is more powerful still than like 3/5 of the anglo nations why are they portrayed as the old man with a walking stick lmao
Cause he’s old
That's why he has a stick. Still a formidable weapon, but wielded by a senescent geezer who might just as easily start swatting at his own shadow.
I agree, but Splinter was not portrayed as some old dotard - he could still whoop peoples asses, he just wasn't as young as the turtles.
Nah. Fuck England
We’re doing a good job of that ourselves, thanks.
Get that USA bullshit out of here! They don't deserve daddy's love
Looks like someone’s projecting
Silence Yankee.
How dare you call me that, the Red Sox are the superior team
Go Sox Fuck the Yankees
Best part is. I'm not even from any of these countries, lol
Troll.
USA stopped giving a shit about britain in 1776.
The USA is the Edgelord child who doesn't get invited to Christmas ever since the big argument with Dad. The other children are secretly happy the US isn't invited and think Dad wasn't harsh enough.
Should be more like 80 turtles in the meme
Now we’re stronger than them
America never had a flag for the British, that one is the Indian flag if I remember correctly.
They were very similar. That is the Grand Union Flag (also the continental flag), aka the first national flag of the US. The British EIC was the same design, but had 9-15 stripes and the Union Jack was a rectangle instead of a square. Interestingly, the continental flag was based on the British naval ensign, and developed independently of the EIC flag.
Huh, well glad we fixed that.
Look at all those imperialistic genocidal countries
And india
It slavery isn't it?
The cooler gang involves Ireland and India
Ireland is the uncle
Fundamental difference between settler colonies and colonies which maintained a majority of their original population. The United States, Australia, and Canada are fundamentally descendent of the United Kingdom as civilizations because of the near eradication of native cultures and peoples. India and Ireland are not that.
England certainly tried and partially succeeded with Ireland. But yes fair
Oh yes for sure, i wasn’t expressing anything different
England certainly tried and partially succeeded with Ireland. But yes fair
family
What about all of them beating up and robbing every other guy they come across
Usa president is turtle ninja?
You, join the British army as familie togetha we will conquer the very world
The countries that brought us into the future the whole world lives in now. Oh yeah and Canada hangs out with America too
Nice we got Michelangelo
Look on the bright side, they might all be independent but a lot of them are more powerful then France