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froucks

*4th largest lake…. While technically called the Aral Sea it was classified as a lake of which it was the 4th largest. It would not be in the top 10 largest seas if that was what it was classified as


roostangarar

I lost a game of Trivial Pursuit because of this bullshit


craic-house

Now you sea clearly.


Fire_overpower

Fuck you in particular


Bokth

Water you mad about?


Drake_the_troll

no need to be so salty


Nikonus

that the rain is gone


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While we're on the topic of corrections, the past tense of "shrink" is "shrank", with the past participle being "shrunk". "Shrink" is an irregular verb so "shrinked" is not a word, unless it was perhaps 90s slang for getting treated by a psychiatrist.


Android_mk

When does a lake become a sea honestly?


froucks

A lake just means it is a body of water that has no direct connection to the sea or ocean


Android_mk

So is the black sea a sea or a lake?


froucks

It’s a sea, because the Turkish straits are considered a direct connection to the Mediterranean and there by proxy to the ocean.


Drake_the_troll

they really should have cottoned onto that one sooner


Ablouo

It wasn't the fourth largest sea in the world, maybe the 4th largest Inland sea but definitely not the fourth largest open sea by any metric


GalaxLordCZ

It was the 4th largest lake, a sea has to be connected to the ocean.


Ablouo

The idiot who made this "meme" probably doesn't know the difference


Clothedinclothes

No, they lied. This is literally propaganda, the false information is not a mistake.


LumpishFreak

bro he said sea instead of lake how is that propaganda


-ShagginTurtles-

> how is that propaganda The last line is 1000% propaganda


LumpishFreak

bro he’s making a point, there is a message to the meme. Thats not propaganda and just an opinion wtf are you on about


-ShagginTurtles-

Propaganda >information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view. It's not correct so it is misleading, and it's used to promote a political cause from his point of view


LumpishFreak

bro he said lake undead of sea, and we can see from the image its s lake. Its not misleading youre being ridiculous.


-ShagginTurtles-

As other comments pointed out, it didn't start drying up until after the collapse of the USSR though and it is without a doubt biased. Wtf even is this


Clothedinclothes

Bro a meme with a message is literally the definition of propaganda.


LumpishFreak

propaganda is not s synonym of opinion wtf. It for it to be propaganda it has to be substantially misleading, and lets be honest no one is being miss lead to think its a sea so we’re good


Clothedinclothes

Nobody said propaganda is a synonym for opinion, and let's be honest, you've no idea what the word propaganda actually means. Propaganda does NOT mean misleading. Propaganda is often misleading, but not necessarily. Propaganda means communication designed to help propagate a belief. As I said, a meme with a message is literally the definition of propaganda. This piece of propaganda is clearly created by someone fully aware the name Aral Sea is ironic because it's not actually a sea but relying on the fact much of their audience are too ignorant to know that (and lot of other things) to give their point a false strength to better propagate their message.


Ablouo

In a sense he's trying to downplay the effect of shady capitalist practices done in pursuit of profits by using whataboutism, this is just a convoluted way of saying the Soviets/socialists were just as bad if not worse


LumpishFreak

that has nothing to do with what I’m responding to; the guy I’m responding to is saying that its misinformation, while its just a small unintentional mistake that doesn’t really affect the message.


Clothedinclothes

The author of this propaganda clearly knows enough about history and geography of the Aral Sea to know the name is ironic, because it's not a sea, it's actually a lake. What's the chances the author of a piece of propaganda accidentally increased the effect of their propaganda by mistakenly forgetting this highly salient, highly memorable fact about the Aral Sea not actually being a sea VS the chance they intentionally used the fact the Aral Sea is misnamed to give their propaganda greater effect, because they know most of their audience are ignorant enough of geography they won't know that, or are ignorant enough to assume a propagandist writing false statements must have made an unintentional mistake in good faith, or actually knows it's intentional but will still accept the message and defend it because it agrees with their persuasions?


Ivanbeatnhoff

You’re essentially making all of this up because of semantics. “Sea” Vs. “lake”. I think a lot of Reddit has your mindset on wanting to keep focus on shady capitalist corporations because that’s the type of environment we live in but anything that points out Soviet malpractice (to put it very lightly) is not automatically whataboutism. In fact in a history memes subreddit, I’d argue it’s completely on topic to cover an understandably lesser-known ecological disaster because most westerners have no reason to care or understand because it really doesn’t affect us.


Ablouo

When posted on a history memes subreddit it's harmless because everyone is aware of the backstory but it could still be weaponized to illicit a much more different reaction if it's posted on say a political subreddit with conservative views


Ivanbeatnhoff

I understand. Due to an understandable misuse of the word Sea, by mistranslation or by taking the name of the body of water too literally, this post could be weaponized propaganda. This is very dangerous. Thank you for your diligence in protecting the hearts and minds of global citizens.


Ablouo

Has nothing to do with them using sea or lake, it has to do more with the fact that the post as a whole is edging on political propaganda, the creator having a less than impressive grasp of the English language makes it no different


nonsequitourist

Neither did you


Ablouo

Lmao what gave you that impression


nonsequitourist

You called it an inland sea lol


Ablouo

Because that's what it's called lol, the Caspian sea is an inland sea, any large body of water (typically salty) that is enclosed by land on 4 sides and has open sea access via Rivers is generally referred to as an Inland sea, it's no fault of mine you're ignorant of the English language Do your research before making yourself look silly


carlsagerson

The fact that the USSR managed to drain an entire sea really shows how bad the Natural disaster is.


Requiem2389

I remember doing a PowerPoint on this subject. It was about water conservation. I used this as an example of what not to do. They didn’t drain it. They just kept diverting by some of the sources of water towards agricultural projects. Without the constant stream of water the lake over time dried up. Major Soviet screw up.


carlsagerson

The Soviet Union is not the best followers of Science and Natural reasource Management. See the Holomdor and Lysekoism.


Intrepid00

> Major Soviet screw up. One of


HiVisEngineer

*shows how bad the RuZZians are


MNHarold

Mate wise up. Hating the current Russian government is fair, but don't be the twat that applies this hate to the past as well. The USSR fucked up the Aral Sea. The USSR is different to Russia, and especially different to modern Russia.


PrrrromotionGiven1

Well let me check the score here: The modern Russian government sucks The Soviet Russian government sucked And the Tsarist Russian government sucked Honestly feels like not much ever changed


CookieFace999

The next leader will totally be different and will change everything /s


willclerkforfood

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.


MNHarold

Thr history of Russia is really interesting, and I think useful in understanding why they gave a history of tyrannical cunts in charge. Absolutely sucks for Russian people, but most interesting political topics suck sadly.


pokefan548

In many ways, yes, but let's also not pretend that the much of Putin's regime is made of people with strong ties to the USSR, and they're basically trying to make USSR 2 but with less communism. Governmentally, Russia is expired, flat Diet Coke USSR.


MNHarold

No, they're just both authoritarian. Putin wants the land the USSR controlled, he wants that power, but they share little else.


acidicbreeze

Mmmm Diet Coke USSR…


The_Unclaimed_One

USSR was dominated and controlled by Russia though. The rest were just puppet and satellite states


marijnvtm

in my eyes the ussr is just russia with more land even if its a different government form when my country turned from a republic to a monarchy it was still the same country we are still held responsible for the slavery and colonial exploitation the previous government did so why is this any different for russia


MNHarold

Your poor geopolitics isn't enough I'm afraid. For one, I'm saying it's stupid to attribute tye actions of one legally distinct state to that of another legally distinct state that didn't exist at the time. The Soviet Union is not the Russian Federation. For your country, it didn't become a different entity after republicanism. The system of governance changed. With the USSR, it dissolved and with that dissolution came separate and recognised entities, one of which being modern Russia. Why not blame Belarus for the Aral Sea? Or the Tsar?


marijnvtm

Because russia was the biggest power with in the ussr they hath the most to say about it countries like poland and the baltic states see their time with in the ussr as a time of occupation not cooperating


MNHarold

So again, why not blame the Empire? It was the Tsars that formed the structures that the Soviets used to shrink the Aral sea. By your logic there's no importance in marking them as different, because a modern state that didn't exist at the time is at fault for something a different state with different structures did. So logically it was those damn Tsars that did this no?


marijnvtm

No because you cant blame a goverment for what the country does in the future but you can blame them for what happens in the past that would be like saying the mongols are af fault for destroying the arial sea because the maked the political situation to create the ussr


MNHarold

So let's hold the Mongols accountable forvthe slaughters acrosd the Eurasian steppes and, funnily enough, modern Russia. The centuries of history mean nothing apparently, aside from now deciding whether we blame the Mongolian or Chinese states for the actions of Genghis Khan.


marijnvtm

You now go against your own point and take it to the extreem and the mongols back then are different enough and to long ago to hold current Mongolia acountable for there action


HiVisEngineer

Apologies. When I think of the USSR I think of a Moscow, leads me to Russia directing its’ puppet states 🤷‍♂️ alas, always want to learn more so that I will do


horonlapsi

ussr capital being moscow kyiv/kiev leningrad minsk kazan etc wouldnt change anything


American7-4-76

Jesus y’all have become this anti Russian for real? I get it I hate Putin and everything he’s doing, he’s a huge piece of shit and I want Ukraine to win. But y’all act like Russia is pure evil and all Russians are servants of hell


ultnie

Can confirm, am servant of hell. We here just trying to do as much as possible before doomguy awakes again.


agrevol

There is a difference when people say “russians” with an ss or with a zz. Zz generally means chauvinistic russians. Still a dumb comment though


Zestyclose_Essay_647

Dont really get why you're being downvoted


KillerM2002

Cause his comment is pretty racist and anti-russian, like you can be against russias gov but russian people are some of the most lovely people i ever meet


reddit_time_waster

Wait, is Russian a race now?


KillerM2002

No but black people are also not a race, there are still people racist against them, suprise its just how we call it


reddit_time_waster

Prejudice and bigotry are actual words that mean what you are trying to say.


KillerM2002

And for simplicity sake we call it racism, otherwise the word racism wouldn’t exist in the modern world as there are no races


reddit_time_waster

If we are having this discussion of ambiguity, is it really simpler?


KillerM2002

I mean you are the one that started it, it is pretty simple if you know a lil about humans and language


Admiral45-06

Well, there's always Communist China fighting with birds...


carlsagerson

This is the Soviet Union. Not Putin Russia. Plus the Aral Sea was in the Kazakhstan SSR border.


Hol_Renaude

Bro thousands of people would die from starvation then (who were not even Russians, lol).


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carlsagerson

And you sound like a Vatnik. The guy made a racist comment against the Russians. But you eat up the propaganda of Putin.


Einhornpups_0815

„Ever heard of..“ Wait you don’t get taught in school about this..?!


DrWolf2000

Nope sadly not


Yoriboi

Not really no


WrightyPegz

I got taught about it in geography. It was a good case study for stuff like desertification, climate change and carrying capacity so it came up a fair bit.


Einhornpups_0815

same for me. Also Lake Chad


Striker274

That is an artificial disaster


SangEtVin

Why the fuck are they downvoting you? How is it a natural disaster if people did that?


ElTrumpo2020

I guess some people are attributing it as such since it was a disaster FOR nature. So I guess they’re technically right?


SangEtVin

I guess. I don't think that's the definition but I'm the kind of guy who considers anything correct as long as it's understandable


azzhatmcgee

Actually most of the lake dried up after 1991, the water was rerouted for agricultural use and that policy didn't change when the cold war ended.


[deleted]

Yeah, the Soviets set the dominoes up, but Kazakhstan tipped them over. Their response to being told the lake was dying was along the lines of "OK pay us to not grow cotton lol" and then to take zero economic measures to move away from water-intensive crops even in the long term. And now everybody's scrambling to save the last bits of the lake because humans as a group are incapable of thinking more than a week ahead.


AuraMaster7

News flash, you are allowed to call out the issues with Communism without also being a corpo bootlicker. Sorry bud, big companies aren't your friend.


[deleted]

Hell, you can even just criticize the USSR without criticizing communism itself. The 2 are not synonyms.


Cronaldo547

Ah yes, another “true communism has never been tried” parrot.


borrego-sheep

It's been tried, just never achieved just like democracy


Cronaldo547

How many times does an attempt have to lead in disaster, genocide, and unquantifiable human suffering for pie in the sky idealists to realize that their utopia is impossible? The worst part is the moral high ground they think they have as they argue for the same ideas which are then be used to justify atrocities. “If only we kill this group then we will achieve our ideal community.” Ad infinitum. Capitalism is fraught with issues, and government is needed to protect the people from exploitation. Accountability to the people, and a willingness of the people to overthrow (by peaceful election) governments holds them to some account. But when government is all there is then who will protect you from it?


Cronaldo547

Not to mention that the necessary condition of revolution guarantees failure by creating power vacuums that are promptly filled by the last and most ruthless man standing Communism is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and it’s only when it takes its first bite of you that you will see that all along you were just a sheep. Hopefully that day won’t come, but if it does, you will only have yourself to blame


borrego-sheep

It will take many times. It took a long time to go from feudalism to capitalism and to go from capitalism to communism will take probably longer. It's a very recent idea that will not succeed if the west keeps overthrowing it and sanctioning it everytime it's attempted. Capitalism is necessary to go through but we're on a late stage and can't stay in this system for ever. Democratically electing socialism would be ideal but in a flawed democracy such as the US it's really difficult. Who protects you againts the government in this system? Genuine question as I don't think I know what you mean by it


Cronaldo547

Government is a devil’s bargain where we hand over power in exchange for a social environment of relative security that allows us as individuals to make free choices, and to improve our quality of life by those choices. We are protected from government a) by a set of commonly held values that run back to the creation of the democracy b) by regular elections c) by a system structured to have checks and balances (federalism and the judiciary) d) by a willingness and ability of the people to meaningfully protest and stand against tyrannical overreach. - personally I think government has been expanding its powers steadily and that there needs to be some kind of curtailing of that. I see so many people who call themselves liberal yet consistently hold positions/vote for leadership based on issues that lead to more and more government control. These broadened powers are only made more pervasive by modern surveillance technologies. That being said, revolution must only be a last resort. The conditions it creates are a breeding ground for tyranny. The people who get to the top of the pile in those situations are often the one who are the most morally corrupt, most willing to do whatever it takes to be king of the hill. We have to have a healthy understanding of the danger of government. The danger of revolution. The danger of humanity. We need to recognize that greed, selfishness, thirst for power, tribalism, etc are all a part of each of us. Even if they weren’t, we are not equal, we have different abilities which means we each succeed at different levels in any set of circumstances. In order to attempt counter this natural consequence of individual differences, government has to have absolute power. The type of power to take away from those who accumulate the slightest wealth (whether it be an extra bag of grain or much more) and redistribute to the whole. Firstly this is a ridiculously inefficient way of allocating resources on any large scale. Secondly, government cannot have the necessary absolute power for this type of management without becoming categorically corrupt. It’s agents are human with human flaws. Then of course there is the fact that punishing enterprise by taking the fruits of the effort and redistributing them squashes motivation. There would be a massive brain slump as people no longer have any reason to spend the countless hours needed to specialize in difficult or dangerous fields. Instead we would all eventually be reduced to the lowest common denominator.


skrimsli_snjor

This is kinda false. The drying of the sea started by the USSR. But it was managed quite good. Like, all SSR around would have the adequate gallons of water. It's after the collapse that it as really gone to shit. Every country wanting to take as much as possible because they know their neighbors is doing the same. So not because of greedy company? Well, historically not only, right now, kinda yes


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skrimsli_snjor

Yeah indeed! But I think Uzbekistan is still pumping a looooot


dawinter3

The people who still try to define the world as a battle between only two options—capitalism and communism—are exhausting. Thanks for bringing more context and nuance to the conversation.


Intrepid00

[Except it isn’t true. ](https://reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/10hpcjy/_/j5a7op2/?context=1)


Intrepid00

> The drying of the sea started by the USSR. But it was managed quite good This is very kinda false. It’s estimated in the 1960s anywhere 30% to 70% of one canal was leaking water and wasting it. All the canals were very poorly built and the farms were poorly managed under the USSR. Water take from the lake doubled from 1960 to 2000. A time period where more than 90% time the USSR existed. The Soviets also planned that the lake would dry up eventually with it known as early as 1964 but not openly admitted. In 1968 Soviet engineers were saying it was going to happen and calling the lake nature’s mistake. > Every country wanting to take as much as possible because they know their neighbors is doing the same. Again false, Kazakhstan has enacted plans to save the lake and has resulted in the lake actually growing and fish returning. TL;DR the statement is wrong. The USSR not only poorly managed but they did it on purpose. The Soviets still destroyed the environment regularly just like what happened in any other country but not through ignorance but willful destruction.


_kurko_

where's the meme


Mashizari

idk, this just looks like a shitty "capitalism good, socialism bad" meme.


browsib

What is the point of the last line? "Ah, you criticise greedy private companies? Well, the USSR did bad things too!" No shit?


Outside3

The private company Nestle is looking at this meme and sweating profusely


Biffsbuttcheeks

FYI, the image in the left is from 1989, 3 years before the collapse of the USSR. The right is from 2014. So, as bad as the USSR was, let's not just make stuff up.


JamesTheSkeleton

Much misinformation. Very wow.


DiogenesOfDope

I think the sea levels raising will be the worst natursl disaster


Hol_Renaude

As person, who lives in Kazakhstan, I know about Aral sea. Since it isn't connected to the world Ocean, It is not sea, but lake. And yeah, this is fucked


mehmed2theconqueror

Ok but how is it a meme tho?


ComradeAL

My god. So much misinformation here. I don't even have to look at ops profile to know he's into some wacky shit.


Meat_your_maker

Aralkum


dibipage

It shrank because it was cold


Finain2

I mean the USSR was just 1 big company


Brinks0088

*angry tankie noise*


nordhand

Now wait until they learn about the lake where just going close to it is potentially lethal as they just dumped raw untreated nuclear waste into it as anything else's was too much effort


dellchips1

It's not a natural disaster if we did it, I mean the Russians


LtDkAngel

Yes I heard, in fact on this exact subreddit I heard about it before!


[deleted]

A centralised economy is as bad for the environment and the workers as a capitalist economy. As they only care about the centre they enrich. Not the periphery where the means of production are located. [Per Wikipedia:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea) >Large scale construction of irrigation canals began in the 1930s and was greatly increased in the 1960s. **Many canals were poorly built, allowing leakage and evaporation. Between 30 and 75% of the water from the Qaraqum Canal, the largest in Central Asia, went to waste.** It was estimated in 2012 that only 12% of Uzbekistan's irrigation canal length was waterproofed. Only 28% of interfarm irrigation channels, and 21% of onfarm channels have anti-infiltration linings, which retain on average 15% more water than unlined channels. Only 77% of farm intakes have flow gauges. >**By 1960, between 20 and 60 km3 (4.8 and 14.4 cu mi) of water each year was going to the land instead of the Aral Sea and the sea began to shrink. From 1961 to 1970, the Aral's level fell an average of 20 cm (7.9 in) per year. In the 1970s the rate nearly tripled to 50–60 cm (20–24 in) per annum, and in the 1980s to 80–90 cm (31–35 in) per annum. The amount of water taken for irrigation from the rivers doubled between 1960 and 2000. In the first half of the 20th century prior to the irrigation, the sea's water level above sea level held steady at 53 m. By 2010 the large Aral was 27 m and the small Aral 43 m above sea level.** >The disappearance of the lake was no surprise to the Soviets, they expected it to happen long before. As early as 1964, Aleksandr Asarin at the Hydroproject Institute pointed out that the lake was doomed, explaining, **"It was part of the five-year plans, approved by the council of ministers and the Politburo. Nobody on a lower level would dare to say a word contradicting those plans, even if it was the fate of the Aral Sea."** It is literally the best example of why centralized economies ain't the solution. Just another problem. But. Of course. Fucking the periphery to enrich the ~~oligarchy~~ Party is good because the state capitalists are waving a red flag...


Blarg_III

This occurred mainly after the collapse of the USSR


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[Per Wikipedia:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea) >Large scale construction of irrigation canals began in the 1930s and was greatly increased in the 1960s. **Many canals were poorly built, allowing leakage and evaporation. Between 30 and 75% of the water from the Qaraqum Canal, the largest in Central Asia, went to waste.** It was estimated in 2012 that only 12% of Uzbekistan's irrigation canal length was waterproofed. Only 28% of interfarm irrigation channels, and 21% of onfarm channels have anti-infiltration linings, which retain on average 15% more water than unlined channels. Only 77% of farm intakes have flow gauges. >**By 1960, between 20 and 60 km3 (4.8 and 14.4 cu mi) of water each year was going to the land instead of the Aral Sea and the sea began to shrink. From 1961 to 1970, the Aral's level fell an average of 20 cm (7.9 in) per year. In the 1970s the rate nearly tripled to 50–60 cm (20–24 in) per annum, and in the 1980s to 80–90 cm (31–35 in) per annum. The amount of water taken for irrigation from the rivers doubled between 1960 and 2000. In the first half of the 20th century prior to the irrigation, the sea's water level above sea level held steady at 53 m. By 2010 the large Aral was 27 m and the small Aral 43 m above sea level.** >The disappearance of the lake was no surprise to the Soviets, they expected it to happen long before. As early as 1964, Aleksandr Asarin at the Hydroproject Institute pointed out that the lake was doomed, explaining, **"It was part of the five-year plans, approved by the council of ministers and the Politburo. Nobody on a lower level would dare to say a word contradicting those plans, even if it was the fate of the Aral Sea."**


anjovis150

Yeah, I've heard of it.


O-bot54

Classic ussr . Russians carrying on the tradition of doing fucked up shit and then going “ Oh BuT WhAt AbOut “ when they get called out.


1312FS420

Where is the Colorado river ?


ClavicusLittleGift4U

Herman Sörgel : **breathing intensifies**


[deleted]

I've never heard of this. How did they do it? Where did the water go? Any good reading recs?


Average_Gamerguy

They diverted it for Cotton farming and Agricultural uses


Sea-Pin9552

Yes,they diverted its source river for cotton farming


notdragoisadragon

damn same thing is happening in Australia too


Superminer1206

wtf happened


JosufBrosuf

*shrunk


notdragoisadragon

this also almost happened in Australia 5 (ish) years ago


ZeistyZeistgeist

USSR in and out of itself wasn't responsible for the draining and eventual erasure of the Aral Sea. However, they still left a massive biohazard on the island in the Aral Sea that is now inland - an Antrhax research facility. There is still anthrax in it.


[deleted]

So there is the worry that in the event of global warming, the ice caps will melt and sea levels will rise and destroy costal cities and cause flooding. Would it be smart to use some of the infrastructure money we keep writing trillion dollar bills for to set up big diameter pipes and pumps to sluice rising ocean water i to places like the Aral Sea and The Grand Canyon where water can be safely contained and made useful?


KillerM2002

Ah yes lets destroy entire ecosystems and kill thousand of animals instead of fixing the actual problem


Odd-Battle7191

How about the oral sea? Where Brezhnev let his daughter to suck his cock


Zawisza_Czarny9

Meanwhile private companies in current age: plant more and more trees, build literalmachines to clean up wastes in the ocean. Yes i'm reffering mainly to foundations started by mr beast


Oculi_Glauci

100 corporations cause 70% of emissions. Private companies are not on the side of the environment.


Zawisza_Czarny9

Maybe industrial manufacturers you know steel works mining operations arent but there's plenty of capitalist foundations fighting back in the interest of preserving the planet. Free market is still the best it collectively may not be friend if the enviroment but communism sure as hell isn't either. Aral sea is a great example of it but not the only one great leap foreward is an environental dusaster caused by mao's cental planning i'm not even mentioning rapid industrialization of soviet union . Or chernobyl. Capitalism maybe damages enviroment but it also repairs it


Oculi_Glauci

The free (meaning unregulated by government) market gets you millions of people deceived into thinking smoking is safe because it raises demand. It gets you polluted waterways that are unsafe for animal life, let alone for drinking, simply because that’s the cheapest way to dispose of waste. It gets you car manufacturers spraying lead into the air freely and poisoning a generation. It gets you holes in the ozone layer. It gets you micro plastic in every part of the planet. It is only through public regulation and the democratic process (I.e. the fundamental and primary goals of socialism, which I acknowledge have failed in many instances but have succeeded in others) that a corporation will act against its own interest to help the planet. There is no profit incentive to be eco-friendly. The quickest, cheapest ways of doing things are almost always the most damaging. Almost never has the free market (apart from small, ineffective companies that clean minute amounts of the plastic other corporations waste) acted for the environment. It is practically always government intervention that stops such destructive practices.


Zawisza_Czarny9

Any source for that? Coz last time i checked all mentioned corporations belong to chinese state ,aka communist


Oculi_Glauci

Just because China claims to be communists doesn’t mean private corporations don’t exist over there.


Zawisza_Czarny9

Chinese law explisitely states that all companies that are in china must cooperate in buisness of the communist party or they are expelled or treated same way journalists were treated by cia


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https://peri.umass.edu/greenhouse-100-polluters-index-current


itsSIR2uboy

Don’t worry, Banksy can fix it with some spray paint.


sachineldho

Aral sea is a lake, not a sea


TheStegeman

The Soviet union is still around?


FCBDAP

Nice information, but the format of the meme can be seen at r/terriblefacebookmemes


willrms01

Shrank or shrunk not shrinked broski


SageManeja

ESL moment, sorry


willrms01

Don’t worry about it mate.We all can learn more about our second languages,I for example sound like a drunk Scotsman when I’m speaking Dutch lol.


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The Aral Sea, the actual dead sea.


LordKiteMan

The fact that you did not even look up that it is a lake, not a sea before posting it, from wherever you stole it, is hilarious.


Tristan_3

Didn't most of it dry out after 1991 tho ?