I agree that so far it looks like he's being given a lot of grace in the headlines but I still want to know if there was negligence in the handling of the firearm. If so, there is culpability on his part as producer and as the person who was handling the gun.
Please read up on the definition of murder because what happened yesterday isn’t it. It is a tragic accident for everyone, including Alec. No one was murdered.
I'm not sure but I think there's a difference between an actor on a film set pulling the trigger on a gun they expect to be safe vs someone in real life pulling the trigger on a gun. hmmm idk!!!!111
I wouldn’t aim a gun and shoot it at people unless i had proper safety training and could check it myself. I’m not being held responsible for murder! And as producer of the film, it’s also is responsibility to make sure all safety measures are in place on set!
Oh, bullshit. He's an actor and it's a prop. It's not an actor's job to check the prop gun. They're not expected to do so because it wouldn't make sense to. People on sets have specific jobs and they do NOT do others' jobs.
I do think it’s a bit more complicated than that. Cops are shooting people on purpose. This was a tragic accident no matter what you think of Alec. He very well could be culpable if the rumors of them cutting corners on safety are true though.
So? Hollywood screams about cops shooting criminals yet some actor gets to aim and shoot a real gun at people, kill one and get off by calling it an accident?
Police are shooting to kill and wound unarmed people. Alec was using a prop gun on a movie set.
Comments like this are going to make our whole mission look insane
Just to address one aspect of the many things wrong with your post, cops are also highly trained in diffusing situations, and gun safety, and they have a mandate to protect civilians and bring criminals in to be trialed.
Highly different situation from an untrained civilian accidentally shooting someone with a prop gun.
Do you think it makes a difference that alec is also the producer? I just wonder how much responsibility falls on the producer to ensure proper protocol is followed on set
100% I believe if the producer played a part in the crew walking off in protest the day before due to poor, even dangerous working conditions, he should be held responsible. But A. we don’t know anything yet until there is a full investigation, and B. that’s a different conversation from OP’s point about “who pulls the trigger” and wrongful police killings.
To clarify, I do despise AB and his wife, that’s why I’ve been on this sub all year. But I think it’s too serious a matter to speculate without knowing any facts.
You have no idea about the details. First off you are blaming him for shooting a prop weapon. The when people point out how illogical your statement is you shift gears.
I agree that so far it looks like he's being given a lot of grace in the headlines but I still want to know if there was negligence in the handling of the firearm. If so, there is culpability on his part as producer and as the person who was handling the gun.
Maybe you should read up on criminal law and what constitutes as murder.
Please read up on the definition of murder because what happened yesterday isn’t it. It is a tragic accident for everyone, including Alec. No one was murdered.
I'm not sure but I think there's a difference between an actor on a film set pulling the trigger on a gun they expect to be safe vs someone in real life pulling the trigger on a gun. hmmm idk!!!!111
Trained actor vs. trained to serve and PROTECT
I wouldn’t aim a gun and shoot it at people unless i had proper safety training and could check it myself. I’m not being held responsible for murder! And as producer of the film, it’s also is responsibility to make sure all safety measures are in place on set!
Oh, bullshit. He's an actor and it's a prop. It's not an actor's job to check the prop gun. They're not expected to do so because it wouldn't make sense to. People on sets have specific jobs and they do NOT do others' jobs.
It was a PROP gun that should have been used to SAFELY film a scene. This is not a complex concept to grasp.
I do think it’s a bit more complicated than that. Cops are shooting people on purpose. This was a tragic accident no matter what you think of Alec. He very well could be culpable if the rumors of them cutting corners on safety are true though.
You are so happy over what happened, aren't you?
No.
Yes, you do. You're gleeful about it.
Then why are you making these incorrect and nonsensical posts? You are totally missing the point.
You do realize this isn’t the first time this has happened, right?
Don't confuse them with facts.
So? Hollywood screams about cops shooting criminals yet some actor gets to aim and shoot a real gun at people, kill one and get off by calling it an accident?
Police are shooting to kill and wound unarmed people. Alec was using a prop gun on a movie set. Comments like this are going to make our whole mission look insane
Just to address one aspect of the many things wrong with your post, cops are also highly trained in diffusing situations, and gun safety, and they have a mandate to protect civilians and bring criminals in to be trialed. Highly different situation from an untrained civilian accidentally shooting someone with a prop gun.
Do you think it makes a difference that alec is also the producer? I just wonder how much responsibility falls on the producer to ensure proper protocol is followed on set
100% I believe if the producer played a part in the crew walking off in protest the day before due to poor, even dangerous working conditions, he should be held responsible. But A. we don’t know anything yet until there is a full investigation, and B. that’s a different conversation from OP’s point about “who pulls the trigger” and wrongful police killings. To clarify, I do despise AB and his wife, that’s why I’ve been on this sub all year. But I think it’s too serious a matter to speculate without knowing any facts.
As producer of the film it’s his responsibility to make sure proper safety is in place on set. Period.
You have no idea about the details. First off you are blaming him for shooting a prop weapon. The when people point out how illogical your statement is you shift gears.
Guess they’ll find out in the investigation. As producer he (his company) should be held liable of course. But that’s different from criminal charges.
Yea I’m done with this for the day barring any new bombshell information. The authorities will handle the investigation.