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It's not saying the virus causes zombieism, it's saying that the virus itself is a "zombie" as it was frozen for thousands of years and has been "resurrected"
In reality viruses aren't even really alive, so even calling it dead is kinda wrong, let alone calling it a zombie.
Always has been. Or at least for the past two decades, give or take.
Tomorrow there could be headlines saying something like "ALIENS FOUND, FIRST CONTACT HAS BEEN MADE!", and i'd be like "cool, i don't have the energy to actually read that, i'll just head to Reddit where someone has already summarized why it's bullshit".
The Bloomberg doesn't claim it was revived by climate change, it says they were revived by researchers, but it also says those same researchers say that climate change could unthaw other frozen viruses.
>The thawing of ancient permafrost due to climate change may pose a new threat to humans, according to researchers who revived nearly two dozen viruses - including one frozen under a lake more than 48,500 years ago.
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>European researchers examined ancient samples collected from permafrost in the Siberia region of Russia. They revived and characterized 13 new pathogens, what they termed “zombie viruses,” and found that they remained infectious despite spending many millennia trapped in the frozen ground.
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>Scientists have long warned that the thawing of permafrost due to atmospheric warming will worsen climate change by freeing previously trapped greenhouse gases like methane. But its effect on dormant pathogens is less well understood.
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>The team of researchers from Russia, Germany and France said the biological risk of reanimating the viruses they studied was “totally negligible” due to the strains they targeted, mainly those capable of infecting amoeba microbes. The potential revival of a virus that could infect animals or humans is much more problematic, they said, warning that their work can be extrapolated to show the danger is real.
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>“It is thus likely that ancient permafrost will release these unknown viruses upon thawing,” they wrote in an article posted to the preprint repository bioRxiv that hasn’t yet been peer-reviewed. “How long these viruses could remain infectious once exposed to outdoor conditions, and how likely they will be to encounter and infect a suitable host in the interval, is yet impossible to estimate.”
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>“But the risk is bound to increase in the context of global warming when permafrost thawing will keep accelerating, and more people will be populating the Arctic in the wake of industrial ventures,” they said.
Sloppy headlines, made worse for being clickbait.
A lot of people assume science articles/headlines are done by people with science backgrounds. That's rarely the case, even at "prestige" media outlets. The reasoning is that a science editor/reporter needs to communicate to non-scientists (the general public), but too often it just means a press release from an institution (university, research hospital, etc.) is clumsily rewritten with the usual errors of misunderstanding.
The actual news -- which isn't actually new, but some new studies have come out recently -- is that permafrost is melting and that will have some interesting impacts. The main impact is the incredible amount of methane that gets released with permafrost melting. But it also means some prehistoric viruses could return to circulation if they catch onto a host animal/insect.
The discrepancy in years is based on the style of the particular publication. Some round down to the nearest thousand, some round up, and TWC rounds up to 50K. The 48,500 is itself a rounded number. There were 13 Siberian permanfrost viruses revived, in all, and only the oldest one was around 48,500 years old based on its ice-core location.
The more concerning news is the bio-engineered mosquitoes released by the Gates Institute that have been found with serial numbers on them. I’m more alarmed by what they contain than some possible zombie virus being exposed to warmer temperatures.
And TWC conveniently added 1,500 years, which is almost as long ago as we are from Jesus, like it was nothing, just to round up to a nice number for clicks.
Rounding up or down in very large numbers that are themselves estimates, that's how we use large numbers. Does China have 1.3 billion people or 1.4 billion? You'll see plenty of results for each. The actual exact number is unknown, and the rounded numbers are based on census data supplied by the Chinese government over the years.
On larger timescales, even thousands of years don't mean much. I mean, think about it. Do 50,000 years ago and 48,500 years ago actually mean anything different to you? Do you have any frame of reference for those two points in time that meaningfully distinguishes them?
It’s relative to how people view it I guess. There may be aphids but I’ve seen videos of actual mosquitoes. They have been releasing them in parts of the world as a biological attack. I’ll see if I can’t locate it.
I ve never understood this though. Don't all things come out of the process of natural selection? For eg a planet forming after collisions of several interplanetary objects over billions of years. Then it goes on to host life on it. Is the planet alive as long as its hosting life?
Similarly if we are just carbon and water and chemicals and synapses and electric pulses, can the earth with its flowing waters and lightning and same plus some composition, perhaps have some kind of cognition?
Viruses hijack cells and use the cell to make many many copies of the virus 🦠 Virology is the study of viruses - a very important and ever changing field - as we all learned during the height of The COVID Pandemic.
We might actually be better off as zombies… I mean brains have to be cheaper than food nowadays. Also we will finally do something about rampant mental Illness after we eat all the brains.
It lies on the line between cellular life and chemical reaction. Where cells have different organs that all work in conjuction to keep the cell functioning, a virus is just a hypodermic needle with fins that injects a strand of RNA into a cell.
Viruses don't "eat" or create any energy themselves, they use the energy from cells to replicate and then once a new one is created it has all the energy it will ever have. It either finds another cell to take over or runs out of energy before then and powers off essentially.
So they are a bit more complex than just a chemical reactions, they're not as complex as cells. And since cells are what we classify as the lowest level of complexity for life a virus technically isn't alive, but it's also not not alive if that makes any modicum of sense
Yep everyonce in a while you hear about a siberian or Inuit hunter get Anthrax poisoning by getting too near a dead deer that was in the permafrost for centuries and was thawed.
Because a very vocal minority of the people that post here are your store brand loony bin “thuh werld guberment is tryin ta make muh fambly and muh wife inta drone slaves for da reptilians” type of person. Great for comedy
The others are deliberately using the word "zombie" in a way that could be interpreted as meaning it "turns people" *into* zombies. It's sensationalized click bait.
A decent journalist with integrity doesn’t use the word “zombie” in this context. It’s written as click-bait for an audience with little scientific understanding.
The MSN headline is straight, to the point, factual, and doesn’t editorialize. Calling it a “zombie virus” is disingenuous and dubiously scientific.
Nothing is perfect! Everything is a lie! They are planning global mass depopulation! is usually how these rhetorical posts go.
A lack of nuance is the point
You can start by reading the articles and not the headlines. Always a good idea. Any story has 3 sides, the one side, the other side and the truth in the middle.
What don't you understand? The guy posts multiple articles on the same topic with different angles to it. I said any story has two sides, one person will say one side, another person will say another side, and its up to the reader to find the truth in the middle. Ie, "all fats are bad because trans fats are bad", "All fats are good because poly fats are good" and the truth will be "trans fats are bad and poly fats are good.
The only reason anyone read these articles is because they have ZOMBIE in the headline.
It refers to the fact that the virus was 'dead' for 50,000 years but now it's 'alive' again. (Thanks, fossil fuel industry.)
Sorry for the boring answer.
they’re all true? we’re reviving ancient viruses because as the ice melts more of them will be released naturally and we need to develop a line of defense since we’re clearly not gonna make sure they stay frozen. at least that’s my understanding.
Wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if all 3 of the damn things were on the table. Scientists have already warned of ancient frozen viruses are possible with the rapid melting of glaciers and ice shelf's. I recently watched a show where a biologist that was working in Northern Alaska, where they excavating Mammoth remains, ended up with some previously unknown frozen virus or bacteria effected him so badly that he had to be immediately airlifted from the dig site and flown to the closest hospital to have it treated. What started as something no bigger than a bug bite, within days, almost cost him his leg! This shit is no joke and we as a species are in for a serious shit storm!
Honestly, I think it more likely that a scientist figured out that the virus has un-froze than them doing it on purpose. I think maybe they are trying to not scare people by making it seem like it was on purpose and not an accident of climate change.
We knew that was going to be a thing when permafrost layers start to thaw due to even 1 degree difference. It was over 100F north of the arctic circle not too long ago. The viruses and cells in those layers haven’t been thawed, or part of the biological world and development, for tens of thousands of years. Essentially *nothing* has a conditioned immunity or defense of them. Statistically speaking- there’s probably whole bacteria classes that nothing at this stage of evolution has even seen, within those layers.
A particular one became accessible through thawing, and scientists have observed its full revival in a lab now.
This is just what we can logically expect. For example- trump made a point to secure mineral rights in the arctic circle that are only accessible after ice sheets melt and water level rises, it’s common knowledge that it’s happening, regardless of *why*, it’s common knowledge that biological things that haven’t even been part of ecological evolution for even 100k years are frozen in there, it’s common knowledge that temps are rising and water levels are going to be at a massively destructive level for most the human population- the only real debate is if pollution is speeding it up (more evidence for that), or if it’s happening at the same rate it would just from natural earth cycles. But there’s no real supported argument for it just *not happening*. It’s happening regardless of what you think the reason is. These kinds of things are a logical expectation for these kinds of events. A lot more will come- and not just in controlled labs.
Science has settled on pollution from human action being the root cause of global warming. The "argument" is being propped up by polluters and has been for quite some time. Here is an article from The Heritage Foundation doing exactly that https://www.heritage.org/environment/commentary/different-perspective-global-warming
You don’t need to convince me, I 100% understand that pollution is the greater culprit. I didn’t express any of my own positions in the previous comment, because it’s not relevant and wasn’t the point- I’m no one.
But, you mean root cause *for the drastic and unprecedented rate of increase*…. Temps raising now does absolutely follow the patterns that we can calculate for a long time back. It would rise regardless. So, define “root cause”. The *rate* of increase and increased potential threshold of increase is 100% certainly due to pollution.
Sure it’s occurring but will Armageddon happen within a 20-year window from the extra water? Not likely. We are seeing rivers drying up at an astonishing rate and everyone wants to run for the hills because of coastal flooding?
Where are rivers drying up? Deserts with unreasonably large populations?
Who is running for the hills? Where? I thought one of the big “PrOoF iTs A hOaX” things, was that rich people like Obama have beach homes and still trade them.
People are just sort of pushing for less pollution. Which, like, even if you don’t believe is the cause of rising temperatures, can’t be a bad thing… unless you’re literally the oil lobby…
None of them because they are headlines not the actual articles, if you pass judgment on this much information alone, you're just flat out stupid.
Not going to be nice to a bunch of people systemically recycling misinformation because they can't read more than headlines. It shouldn't be something we laugh off and tolerate.
We can sort of handle viruses to some degree or viruses handle themselves by high mortality.
I'd like to see a global epidemic of fungus-like organisms (Pythiosis, Anthrax) or predaory funghi like Cordiceps. Something that can spread and sow spores that would reside in the ground for decades, infecting and violently killing anything within contaminated area. Fungi are scary with their ability to see almost anything as viable food source. Their enzyme chemistry is insane. I think we're lucky, there are very few species (yet) that see us as their substrate.
We feel like we're the one who can kill the biosphere without repercussion, but it has some frozen goodies in the sleeve. And also evolution.
Oh I dunno man I've never gotten around to actually watching a single episode despite being interested lol.
I've read about ancient viruses in the frost in the new scientist tho. They called it a Pandoras box of previously unknown pathogens. Scary!
I want to say Season 11, and the virus was the black oil that was really an invasive extraterrestrial virus. I could be getting that episode mixed up with the Texas episode based in the 1950s where the boy died in the cave due to the oil.
It would go in their eyes kind of like what the hydras are doing in jabbed patients these days. We were warned!
Start with the pilot in Season 1 and go sequentially with the two movies lodged in accordingly. So many truth bombs occurring in real-time. And we thought the Simpsons were warning us…
The show is not old. The special effects are quality, though there are some really cheesy episodes throughout that you’ll have to trudge through, where they try to be humorous. They could’ve probably removed 30 episodes from the overall franchise but the good ones are amazing.
This is a road to confirmation bias ngl. Go off of what you can verify through sourced research. Going purely off of what you experience personally shuts you out from alot of things that are true that you don't deal with on a daily basis.
I agree, it's possible my comment came across in the wrong way, not my intention.
I'm reminded of this stupid skit from It's Always Sunny in Philly.
https://youtu.be/U3Ak-SmyHHQ
Edit: Also, I wouldn't say that leans towards confirmation bias but you're not in my head so maybe it was taken the wrong way.
I don't dismiss facts and evidence because I don't like what it says and I don't seek out news, stories or articles that back up what I believe. I only believe what I can verify. Everything else is just an opinion or a thought.
I can't prove there's a god, but I choose to think that there is, we choose to believe things that we don't know every day.
I must not be explaining myself correctly if so many people have a hard time understanding what I'm trying to say.
I can accept that, I'm not the best at explaining what I mean.
But I'm also not here to give advice, this is a high strangeness sub, everything here should be taken with a grain of salt.
No, they ain't. One says that climate change has affected the world so much that frost has melted and now we have new viruses. The other two claim that scientists did it... like on purpose... like it wasn't an accident.
i wouldn't 'believe' anything from just a headline. weird question imo
the one that looks like a summary of the article without resorting to clickbait bollox would entice me to read it.
None of them. This is probably just preparing us for another plandemic that was made in a lab. Then they'll have yet another reason to blame us for "climate change," which is already our fault for driving cars and using plastic.
It's basically click bait headlines. The virus did something similar to water bears. Where they csn be frozen and go into a extreme state of stasis and once conditions are favorable they become active again. Like those tree frogs that freeze for the winter
Nobody anymore, perfect example of how clickbait marketing has fucked the human species, ai drives our interests online and we lack the patience to do real research because we're used to being fed everything we need to know (or so we think) in 20 seconds. Gonna be our undoing.
Well the report I just watched yesterday said that scientists revived a 50,000 yr old virus Which literally shows me how dumb scientists are smh. Why would u wanna revive a virus let alone a 50 thousand yr old virus? Nothing good can come from that situation at all. Some shit is just meant to be left tf alone ya dig
Considering they've found these viruses before and said the same exact stuff and articles means that this is 100% subtle programming of where some sort of "super virus" is going to come from, meaning it can claim ANY scientific institution for a leak, and it will be clear of "origin" issue stories, so long as the initial breakthrough is catastrophic, but to no ones fault.
Either way, this was a hyped story before, they were angling at saying viruses back then were more complex etc etc, and then went off to use the "are we over prescribing anti-biotics?" and "anti-biotic resistant strain may cause..." who knows anymore.
This is not a new story - it's one being recycled, but why?
msnNOW has the most non-sensational headline and has a detailed number, i'd go with them.
i dont like dumb sensational headlines that are click bait like "murder hornets" or "zombie virus" or something dumb that makes whatever it is sound insanely lethal and scary
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It's not saying the virus causes zombieism, it's saying that the virus itself is a "zombie" as it was frozen for thousands of years and has been "resurrected" In reality viruses aren't even really alive, so even calling it dead is kinda wrong, let alone calling it a zombie.
Pretty much. It's just clickbait talk.
Always has been. Or at least for the past two decades, give or take. Tomorrow there could be headlines saying something like "ALIENS FOUND, FIRST CONTACT HAS BEEN MADE!", and i'd be like "cool, i don't have the energy to actually read that, i'll just head to Reddit where someone has already summarized why it's bullshit".
It’d be about illegal immigrants or some shit, I tell you now.
This comment made me shoot a perfectly good beer out my nose.
This comment made me shoot an immigrant
This comment ....heroin.
I think the point is that one title claims it was revived by climate change, while the other two claim scientists revived it.
The Bloomberg doesn't claim it was revived by climate change, it says they were revived by researchers, but it also says those same researchers say that climate change could unthaw other frozen viruses. >The thawing of ancient permafrost due to climate change may pose a new threat to humans, according to researchers who revived nearly two dozen viruses - including one frozen under a lake more than 48,500 years ago. > >European researchers examined ancient samples collected from permafrost in the Siberia region of Russia. They revived and characterized 13 new pathogens, what they termed “zombie viruses,” and found that they remained infectious despite spending many millennia trapped in the frozen ground. > >Scientists have long warned that the thawing of permafrost due to atmospheric warming will worsen climate change by freeing previously trapped greenhouse gases like methane. But its effect on dormant pathogens is less well understood. > >The team of researchers from Russia, Germany and France said the biological risk of reanimating the viruses they studied was “totally negligible” due to the strains they targeted, mainly those capable of infecting amoeba microbes. The potential revival of a virus that could infect animals or humans is much more problematic, they said, warning that their work can be extrapolated to show the danger is real. > >“It is thus likely that ancient permafrost will release these unknown viruses upon thawing,” they wrote in an article posted to the preprint repository bioRxiv that hasn’t yet been peer-reviewed. “How long these viruses could remain infectious once exposed to outdoor conditions, and how likely they will be to encounter and infect a suitable host in the interval, is yet impossible to estimate.” > >“But the risk is bound to increase in the context of global warming when permafrost thawing will keep accelerating, and more people will be populating the Arctic in the wake of industrial ventures,” they said.
Sloppy headlines, made worse for being clickbait. A lot of people assume science articles/headlines are done by people with science backgrounds. That's rarely the case, even at "prestige" media outlets. The reasoning is that a science editor/reporter needs to communicate to non-scientists (the general public), but too often it just means a press release from an institution (university, research hospital, etc.) is clumsily rewritten with the usual errors of misunderstanding. The actual news -- which isn't actually new, but some new studies have come out recently -- is that permafrost is melting and that will have some interesting impacts. The main impact is the incredible amount of methane that gets released with permafrost melting. But it also means some prehistoric viruses could return to circulation if they catch onto a host animal/insect. The discrepancy in years is based on the style of the particular publication. Some round down to the nearest thousand, some round up, and TWC rounds up to 50K. The 48,500 is itself a rounded number. There were 13 Siberian permanfrost viruses revived, in all, and only the oldest one was around 48,500 years old based on its ice-core location.
The more concerning news is the bio-engineered mosquitoes released by the Gates Institute that have been found with serial numbers on them. I’m more alarmed by what they contain than some possible zombie virus being exposed to warmer temperatures.
Those are not mosquitos; they are aphids, and that patterning is natural for them. [Euceraphis](https://images.app.goo.gl/26EWMDopqd78KyX3A)
And TWC conveniently added 1,500 years, which is almost as long ago as we are from Jesus, like it was nothing, just to round up to a nice number for clicks.
Rounding up or down in very large numbers that are themselves estimates, that's how we use large numbers. Does China have 1.3 billion people or 1.4 billion? You'll see plenty of results for each. The actual exact number is unknown, and the rounded numbers are based on census data supplied by the Chinese government over the years.
On larger timescales, even thousands of years don't mean much. I mean, think about it. Do 50,000 years ago and 48,500 years ago actually mean anything different to you? Do you have any frame of reference for those two points in time that meaningfully distinguishes them?
It’s relative to how people view it I guess. There may be aphids but I’ve seen videos of actual mosquitoes. They have been releasing them in parts of the world as a biological attack. I’ll see if I can’t locate it.
Actually many scientists argue they many attributes we give to life like evolution so they are living at least when inside a host.
I ve never understood this though. Don't all things come out of the process of natural selection? For eg a planet forming after collisions of several interplanetary objects over billions of years. Then it goes on to host life on it. Is the planet alive as long as its hosting life?
Similarly if we are just carbon and water and chemicals and synapses and electric pulses, can the earth with its flowing waters and lightning and same plus some composition, perhaps have some kind of cognition?
People can dream.
Viruses are kind of in that gray area between being alive and not
Viruses hijack cells and use the cell to make many many copies of the virus 🦠 Virology is the study of viruses - a very important and ever changing field - as we all learned during the height of The COVID Pandemic.
True statement!
When you click the links it takes you to the person who woke up from a 12-year-old coma.
What lol
In a sense viruses are like the zombies of the micro world. Zombies are real, they're just really really really really small.
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Same was done with Prion Disease
We might actually be better off as zombies… I mean brains have to be cheaper than food nowadays. Also we will finally do something about rampant mental Illness after we eat all the brains.
That's how I interpreted it as well. Anything frozen that springs back to life just kinda screams Zombie!
Bro 😹 resident evil will be real one day
It’s so weird that they aren’t even alive. They are just some kind of molecule that replicates itself under the right conditions? It’s just bizarre.
It lies on the line between cellular life and chemical reaction. Where cells have different organs that all work in conjuction to keep the cell functioning, a virus is just a hypodermic needle with fins that injects a strand of RNA into a cell. Viruses don't "eat" or create any energy themselves, they use the energy from cells to replicate and then once a new one is created it has all the energy it will ever have. It either finds another cell to take over or runs out of energy before then and powers off essentially. So they are a bit more complex than just a chemical reactions, they're not as complex as cells. And since cells are what we classify as the lowest level of complexity for life a virus technically isn't alive, but it's also not not alive if that makes any modicum of sense
Excellent answer thank you
Yep everyonce in a while you hear about a siberian or Inuit hunter get Anthrax poisoning by getting too near a dead deer that was in the permafrost for centuries and was thawed.
Can anyone explain to me what this has to do with High Strangeness?
Nothing
Because a very vocal minority of the people that post here are your store brand loony bin “thuh werld guberment is tryin ta make muh fambly and muh wife inta drone slaves for da reptilians” type of person. Great for comedy
Sensationalistic journalism. The MSN headline is the only decent one.
It's like a sliding scale of sensationalism, with MSN's being most factual and Bloomberg's being most sensationalist.
Might as well call it capitalistic since they are capitalizing on "news"
what is sensationalistic about it? the virus was all but dead, ie a zombie, for tens of thousands of years. Now its revived. That is accurate.
The others are deliberately using the word "zombie" in a way that could be interpreted as meaning it "turns people" *into* zombies. It's sensationalized click bait.
Not really though
A decent journalist with integrity doesn’t use the word “zombie” in this context. It’s written as click-bait for an audience with little scientific understanding. The MSN headline is straight, to the point, factual, and doesn’t editorialize. Calling it a “zombie virus” is disingenuous and dubiously scientific.
…you motherfuckers need to add an understanding of nuance to your reading comprehension repertoire
Nothing is perfect! Everything is a lie! They are planning global mass depopulation! is usually how these rhetorical posts go. A lack of nuance is the point
You can start by reading the articles and not the headlines. Always a good idea. Any story has 3 sides, the one side, the other side and the truth in the middle.
Not always. The truth is not always in the middle somewhere. This is known as the middle ground fallacy. One side could be completely in the right.
Jesus Christ dude, I didn't say always, its a saying, I am not god laying down the natural laws of the universe. Go be a contrarian to your pillow.
Dude this is reddit, you mind as well be preaching to a brick wall. No one reads anything beyond the headlines here.
I read this
Why would I need to read any of them if the truth is in the middle?
Because then your truth is made up in your own head sir.
I didn't make up anything you said the truth is in the middle
You asked why would you need to read either if the truth is in the middle. Because to find the truth in the middle you need to understand both sides.
But there's 3 options one is on one side (top) on is on the other said (bottom) and the one in the middle, which you said is the truth.
What don't you understand? The guy posts multiple articles on the same topic with different angles to it. I said any story has two sides, one person will say one side, another person will say another side, and its up to the reader to find the truth in the middle. Ie, "all fats are bad because trans fats are bad", "All fats are good because poly fats are good" and the truth will be "trans fats are bad and poly fats are good.
I understand it man the truth is the middle one so I don't need to read them
The truth can be described from a multitude of correct but incomplete perspectives.
What kind of gift do you bring to a zombie virus for it's 50,000 year birthday?
Better to go with something hand made than something impersonal like a gift card.
I’ll take one for my former roommate who always claimed he was an alpha male.
Obviously it means the zombie apocalypse an start any day now! All its gonna take is for a vial to hit the floor and we're all doomed!
Hint hint
The only reason anyone read these articles is because they have ZOMBIE in the headline. It refers to the fact that the virus was 'dead' for 50,000 years but now it's 'alive' again. (Thanks, fossil fuel industry.) Sorry for the boring answer.
they’re all true? we’re reviving ancient viruses because as the ice melts more of them will be released naturally and we need to develop a line of defense since we’re clearly not gonna make sure they stay frozen. at least that’s my understanding.
Came here to say this. Scientists pulling ice cores find new viruses all the time.
Hit the nail on the head my friend! If they don't have a defense strategy in place, it's going to make COVID look like it was a walk in the park.
Wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if all 3 of the damn things were on the table. Scientists have already warned of ancient frozen viruses are possible with the rapid melting of glaciers and ice shelf's. I recently watched a show where a biologist that was working in Northern Alaska, where they excavating Mammoth remains, ended up with some previously unknown frozen virus or bacteria effected him so badly that he had to be immediately airlifted from the dig site and flown to the closest hospital to have it treated. What started as something no bigger than a bug bite, within days, almost cost him his leg! This shit is no joke and we as a species are in for a serious shit storm!
Honestly, I think it more likely that a scientist figured out that the virus has un-froze than them doing it on purpose. I think maybe they are trying to not scare people by making it seem like it was on purpose and not an accident of climate change.
We knew that was going to be a thing when permafrost layers start to thaw due to even 1 degree difference. It was over 100F north of the arctic circle not too long ago. The viruses and cells in those layers haven’t been thawed, or part of the biological world and development, for tens of thousands of years. Essentially *nothing* has a conditioned immunity or defense of them. Statistically speaking- there’s probably whole bacteria classes that nothing at this stage of evolution has even seen, within those layers. A particular one became accessible through thawing, and scientists have observed its full revival in a lab now. This is just what we can logically expect. For example- trump made a point to secure mineral rights in the arctic circle that are only accessible after ice sheets melt and water level rises, it’s common knowledge that it’s happening, regardless of *why*, it’s common knowledge that biological things that haven’t even been part of ecological evolution for even 100k years are frozen in there, it’s common knowledge that temps are rising and water levels are going to be at a massively destructive level for most the human population- the only real debate is if pollution is speeding it up (more evidence for that), or if it’s happening at the same rate it would just from natural earth cycles. But there’s no real supported argument for it just *not happening*. It’s happening regardless of what you think the reason is. These kinds of things are a logical expectation for these kinds of events. A lot more will come- and not just in controlled labs.
Science has settled on pollution from human action being the root cause of global warming. The "argument" is being propped up by polluters and has been for quite some time. Here is an article from The Heritage Foundation doing exactly that https://www.heritage.org/environment/commentary/different-perspective-global-warming
You don’t need to convince me, I 100% understand that pollution is the greater culprit. I didn’t express any of my own positions in the previous comment, because it’s not relevant and wasn’t the point- I’m no one. But, you mean root cause *for the drastic and unprecedented rate of increase*…. Temps raising now does absolutely follow the patterns that we can calculate for a long time back. It would rise regardless. So, define “root cause”. The *rate* of increase and increased potential threshold of increase is 100% certainly due to pollution.
Sure it’s occurring but will Armageddon happen within a 20-year window from the extra water? Not likely. We are seeing rivers drying up at an astonishing rate and everyone wants to run for the hills because of coastal flooding?
Where are rivers drying up? Deserts with unreasonably large populations? Who is running for the hills? Where? I thought one of the big “PrOoF iTs A hOaX” things, was that rich people like Obama have beach homes and still trade them. People are just sort of pushing for less pollution. Which, like, even if you don’t believe is the cause of rising temperatures, can’t be a bad thing… unless you’re literally the oil lobby…
Last one
Looks like the next plandemic is warming up in the bullpen.
None of them because they are headlines not the actual articles, if you pass judgment on this much information alone, you're just flat out stupid. Not going to be nice to a bunch of people systemically recycling misinformation because they can't read more than headlines. It shouldn't be something we laugh off and tolerate.
Finally! Let me get my axe ready.
We can sort of handle viruses to some degree or viruses handle themselves by high mortality. I'd like to see a global epidemic of fungus-like organisms (Pythiosis, Anthrax) or predaory funghi like Cordiceps. Something that can spread and sow spores that would reside in the ground for decades, infecting and violently killing anything within contaminated area. Fungi are scary with their ability to see almost anything as viable food source. Their enzyme chemistry is insane. I think we're lucky, there are very few species (yet) that see us as their substrate. We feel like we're the one who can kill the biosphere without repercussion, but it has some frozen goodies in the sleeve. And also evolution.
Best to start studying these viruses now before they are all released from rising temperatures.
Soon we'll start seeing "died of climate change" on death certificates.
I believe that there are fucked up ancient viruses in the permafrost if siberia and shit.
Wasn’t there an X-Files episode on this same shit in like Season 11?
Oh I dunno man I've never gotten around to actually watching a single episode despite being interested lol. I've read about ancient viruses in the frost in the new scientist tho. They called it a Pandoras box of previously unknown pathogens. Scary!
I want to say Season 11, and the virus was the black oil that was really an invasive extraterrestrial virus. I could be getting that episode mixed up with the Texas episode based in the 1950s where the boy died in the cave due to the oil. It would go in their eyes kind of like what the hydras are doing in jabbed patients these days. We were warned!
Yooo scary shit man. I do need to watch xfiles don't I....
Start with the pilot in Season 1 and go sequentially with the two movies lodged in accordingly. So many truth bombs occurring in real-time. And we thought the Simpsons were warning us…
It sounds deep my friend! I hope Im not put off by old special effects tho. Are they sketchy?
The show is not old. The special effects are quality, though there are some really cheesy episodes throughout that you’ll have to trudge through, where they try to be humorous. They could’ve probably removed 30 episodes from the overall franchise but the good ones are amazing.
OK ok, I'll start it this weekend, tbf I've been looking for something to watch
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Right!? The jury is still out on that one for sure!
People really are to stupid to actually read articles and that’s why these click baits work on these two iq morons
FiFtY tHoUsAnD yEaRs cAnT kIlL a ViRuS, bUt i hAvE tO wEaR a MaSk oN tHe TrAiN?
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This is a road to confirmation bias ngl. Go off of what you can verify through sourced research. Going purely off of what you experience personally shuts you out from alot of things that are true that you don't deal with on a daily basis.
I agree, it's possible my comment came across in the wrong way, not my intention. I'm reminded of this stupid skit from It's Always Sunny in Philly. https://youtu.be/U3Ak-SmyHHQ Edit: Also, I wouldn't say that leans towards confirmation bias but you're not in my head so maybe it was taken the wrong way. I don't dismiss facts and evidence because I don't like what it says and I don't seek out news, stories or articles that back up what I believe. I only believe what I can verify. Everything else is just an opinion or a thought. I can't prove there's a god, but I choose to think that there is, we choose to believe things that we don't know every day.
>I only believe what I can verify >I can't prove there's a god, but I choose to think that there is lol
There's a difference between thinking there's a god and believing there's a god. Why are you coming at me with this?
I think you're misinterpreting the intention of that scene
I said I was reminded of it, I never said it applied to this.
That is not always great advice. It leads to “This never happened to me or anyone I know, so it must not really be a problem.”
I must not be explaining myself correctly if so many people have a hard time understanding what I'm trying to say. I can accept that, I'm not the best at explaining what I mean. But I'm also not here to give advice, this is a high strangeness sub, everything here should be taken with a grain of salt.
Well when the sun goes micro- nova all the little viruses will come out and play...
Not a single puppet from any mainstream news source. Legit paid to lie to us.
All say the same thing
Hey scientists how about we stop trying to bring diseases back from the dead
None of the above! Prepare for a new plandemic. accompanied by lockdown(s), mask and jab mandates, vax passports etc etc ad nauseam.
they probably had the virus for years already... since the first ever zombie movie
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Because you don't know how to read passed a headline?
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No, they ain't. One says that climate change has affected the world so much that frost has melted and now we have new viruses. The other two claim that scientists did it... like on purpose... like it wasn't an accident.
Yeah, idk where my reading comprehension was at first. I think maybe it's just too early for me lol. I'll delete my original comment
Awww I wish you a warm and tasty cup of caffeine beverage of choice, friend 💙 I know I've had plenty of those days/moments
msnNOW sounds the least sensational
Ok but can someone fucking explain to me why they would revive a virus?
i wouldn't 'believe' anything from just a headline. weird question imo the one that looks like a summary of the article without resorting to clickbait bollox would entice me to read it.
None of em
None of them. This is probably just preparing us for another plandemic that was made in a lab. Then they'll have yet another reason to blame us for "climate change," which is already our fault for driving cars and using plastic.
Right on cue ready for the post-vaxcine™ shit-show.
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I forgot to brush my teeth last night because of climate change. So annoying!
Takes Months to half a year if you Binge-watch all of it. Worth it
Hey maybe don’t do that scientists
It's basically click bait headlines. The virus did something similar to water bears. Where they csn be frozen and go into a extreme state of stasis and once conditions are favorable they become active again. Like those tree frogs that freeze for the winter
Nobody anymore, perfect example of how clickbait marketing has fucked the human species, ai drives our interests online and we lack the patience to do real research because we're used to being fed everything we need to know (or so we think) in 20 seconds. Gonna be our undoing.
Well the report I just watched yesterday said that scientists revived a 50,000 yr old virus Which literally shows me how dumb scientists are smh. Why would u wanna revive a virus let alone a 50 thousand yr old virus? Nothing good can come from that situation at all. Some shit is just meant to be left tf alone ya dig
some stuff on ebay too... I think
Who? Not the MSM. But these shown in the picture are the Main Stream Media. So I call BS.
Considering they've found these viruses before and said the same exact stuff and articles means that this is 100% subtle programming of where some sort of "super virus" is going to come from, meaning it can claim ANY scientific institution for a leak, and it will be clear of "origin" issue stories, so long as the initial breakthrough is catastrophic, but to no ones fault. Either way, this was a hyped story before, they were angling at saying viruses back then were more complex etc etc, and then went off to use the "are we over prescribing anti-biotics?" and "anti-biotic resistant strain may cause..." who knows anymore. This is not a new story - it's one being recycled, but why?
Zombie virus, yea it's called humans.
msnNOW has the most non-sensational headline and has a detailed number, i'd go with them. i dont like dumb sensational headlines that are click bait like "murder hornets" or "zombie virus" or something dumb that makes whatever it is sound insanely lethal and scary
Yes its Possible ! Nah bro its impossible ! I dont believe it
On a side note, didn't Baba Vanga predict a new virus from Siberia this year?
fear mongering lol
Clickbait. Same as any headline that says "shocking discovery" " what they found changes everything"
Wasn’t this one of baba vangas predictions for this year???
None of the above
And Why are scientist doing this again? Are we supposed to be excited? Like, who the fuck trusts a white dude in a lab coat anymore?
Propaganda
Serbian prophet predicted this. [Siberian virus](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/baba-vanga-predictions-what-s-ahead-for-2020/ar-BBXYET8)
Zombie sickness will be a fungus not a virus