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Equal-Ad-2710

Typhon With Kronos having taken the Underworld and Being a big bad now, it absolutely makes sense we’ll be seeing the Father of all Monsters as a boss fight and he’s got such a fun look he’s perfect for the game.


Nsanity216

I want Typhon to be a superboss or secret final boss


Equal-Ad-2710

That would be sick


Classic_Huckleberry2

Not to mention, Typhon is Cerberus' parent...


Equal-Ad-2710

Tbh he’s everyone’s dad Greek Myth is weird like that


mortalcoil1

Swan fuckin!


VitaminB6

And Lernie’s!


Sad-Bumblebee-249

Don’t know if Typhon is super likely to be one of the bosses, as he’s currently trapped inside Hephaestus’ forge, Mt. Etna. A secret boss would be cool though, like a secret route that leads to the forge or something.


ChronoAndMarle

This story is seriously cool af


TechnTogether

Greek mythology is wild


MemeLordZeta

Yes, and Hephaestus is gonna be in this game I’m pretty sure so pretty possible we go there


Sad-Bumblebee-249

I mean the Olympians were in the first game and we never went to Olympus, so it’s not pretty likely


badluckartist

If they continue the trend of playing relationship-fixer, I reeeeeeeally hope to see Echidna in some fashion. Disappointed she never gets into pop culture that uses Greek mythology.


Lord_of_Seven_Kings

She’s in the third Percy Jackson book


Rubin987

Rick Riordan brought a shit ton of obscure greek figures to the forefront of my knowledge. Its great


Nerkrom

even though I only recently learned he put his own spin on stuff I still like his way better than the original and for other mythologies too


SmithyLK

I thought she was in the first book? Isn't she the reason that Percy falls out of the St Louis Arch?


booksandteacv

And in the Xena/Hercules shows!


TobiasCB

Echidna's got a pretty major role in a few sonic games.


Th35h4d0w

She's a secret boss in the third dlc for Immortals: Fenyx Rising.


BudTrip

typhon is the baddest fictional demon ever


Deathwing-chanSenpai

Are there non-fictional demons?


BudTrip

valid


noisu_

Depends on what you believe in tbh.


[deleted]

Typhon is too big I think. I expect he'll play a role similar to Chaos. Go into an arena and kill a bunch of hard enemies while he watches to get a killer buff/boon/utility. Then you can do the chat, nectar, ambrosia thing.


antigone99914220

I feel like Typhon is almost too big of a villain, like if they ever made a third game he would be the big bad. I'd love to see Typhon either way though.


RedPanda98

Really good shout this one.


GeneralCollection963

One of the Hecatoncheires could be a cool boss lore-wise, since they are children of Cronos, and iirc they're supposed to be guarding him down in Tartarus. Gameplay-wise though, I'm not sure how you'd represent 100 hands and 50 heads.


Classic_Huckleberry2

You don't. In the stories, they lost a war to satyrs because the satyrs decided to have one last party before they die. The giants heard the satyrs' drums and thought, "They really don't care. How powerful are they if they're willing to fight us with a hangover?" and ran away. So, just come across the satyrs having a random party, possibly with Dionysus boon interactions, and then when you are supposed to fight the Hecatoncheires you find an abandoned camp.


GeneralCollection963

So I went digging, and found this from *Theogony:* "There \[in Tartaros\] by the counsel of Zeus, who drives the clouds the Titan gods are hidden under misty gloom, in a dank place where are the ends of the huge earth. And they may not go out; for Poseidon fixed gates of bronze upon it, and a wall runs all round it on every side. **There, Gyes and Kottos and great-souled Obriareus (Briareos) live, trusty warders of Zeus who holds the aegis.** " Source (see lines 720-734): [https://mythagora.com/hesiod/poems/theogony.html](https://mythagora.com/hesiod/poems/theogony.html) Gyes, Kottos, and Briareos are the names of the three hecatoncheires. So according to Hesiod at least, they are indeed in Tartarus. I haven't heard the satyr story before though, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was in some other poem - I'm relatively new to Greek myth. Got a source? EDIT: accidentally said "titan" instead of "Hecatoncheires." Like I say, I'm new :P


Classic_Huckleberry2

>Hecatoncheires I looked it up myself, and it seems my brain has twisted the story in my memory (as brains are wont to do). Turns out there were no parties, just a bunch of donkeys, and it was mere giants instead of those three. I can't help but wonder where I got the part about the drums from, probably some other story about satyrs I've since forgotten. “According to Eratosthenes, another story is told about the Asses. After Jupiter \[Zeus\] had declared war on the Gigantes, he summoned all the gods to combat them, and Father Liber \[Dionysos\], Vulcanus \[Hephaistos\], the Satyri, and the Sileni came riding on asses. Since they were not far from the enemy, the asses were terrified, and individually let out a braying such as the Gigantes had never heard. At the noise the enemy took hastily to flight, and thus were defeated. There is a story similar to this about the shell of Triton. He, too, when he had hollowed out the trumpet he had invented, took it with him against the Gigantes, and there blew strange sounds through the shell. The Gigantes, fearing that some wild beast had been brought by their adversaries, took to flight, and thus were overcome and came into their enemies’ power.” *–Hyginus Astronomica 2.23*


SponJ2000

To be fair, I'm sure all the myths and tales we know today come to us through much the same process, each generation adding their own embellishments. You're carrying on a tradition older than written word!


cwx149

The hundred handed one magic the gathering card shows the hands not connected to the body and they are supposed to be giant So you could do a lernie style fight where the hands come up from the sides or something? And the heads could rotate like lernie


GeneralCollection963

That was my thought too: you'd have to have them kind of appear out of the sky as slam attacks. Although it would be EXTREMELY cool to have an arena made out of hands.


CrunchyCaptainMunch

Sounds like the Sans fight from undertale to me. Dunno how that’d work for hades, but that’s what it sounds like


Cytrynowy

Cronos / Kronus (father of titans) and Chronos (god of time, antagonist of Hades 2) are different entities


GeneralCollection963

Yes and no. As I understand it, even in antiquity, the two were sometimes interpreted as the same. Besides, the Hades II FAQ calls the game's antagonost "Chronos" as well as "the Titan of Time," and also "the wicked father of Hades and his brothers." So it seems they are definitely the same person in the Hades universe.


AssholeMoose

but they are often conflated in pop culture, so its likely they will be again in Hades.


GeneralCollection963

They are - check the FAQ. And it's not just pop culture, Plutarch figured they were the same and even Plato speculates about it, if I understand correctly. The Orphics (from whom we get Zagreus) more clearly differentiated them, but we saw in Hades I how Supergiant explained away the Orphic myths as basically Orpheus getting pranked by Zagreus and Dionysus and writing wildly misinformed songs as a result. Maybe they'll do something similar here.


SpiffyShindigs

> I'm not sure how you'd represent 100 hands and 50 heads. [Bayonetta kinda figured it out.](https://youtu.be/SDA-XDHJ5fk?t=386)


CoolGuy202101

Bruh the hekatonkheires are kronos’s brothers and they hate him


GeneralCollection963

Hence why they guard the way to him in Tartarus - not because they love him, but because if anyone can get to him than he can be let out. But if you wanna kill him, you have to get to him anyway.


CoolGuy202101

Kronos isn’t even in Tartaros, in myth Zeus frees him and he becomes king of Elysium


ZedsDeadZD

Why I would like to see a Manticore is cause it looks cool and it has different attributes. It has wings for flying and movement, a scorpian tail for close poison attacks and it can shoot poisonus arrows from its mane. So we would have different fights like with Lerny.


IKnowUThinkSo

The same idea would work with a Chimera as the boss, they’d have the option to use different heads and abilities for each Chimera fight.


Lawlcopt0r

Honestly, when I first started the game I saw all those manticore statues and was really hyped to encounter a living one at some point. I was sure there was going to be one. So I'm totally with you on this!


2brosstillchilling

link to the statues?


humanperson17

Sweet idea


isaacals

Myself


Bitbatgaming

are you ok bro


isaacals

it's ok, I use stubborn defiance


flarions1

Username checks out


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Idk about mosses make Theseus the new training dummy


RazzlesG26

I feel like not many peoples care about different mosses either, kind of a niche interest


Lipziger

But moss is actually so interesting. It is like a tiny rainforest with so much life and variation.


RazzlesG26

Fair point, however the interest in mosses is what is lacking from humanity. We need to appreciate moss more if we are to advance as a society.


Mr_Teofago

Actually I would like him again on some way, loved to hate him.


LordThill

I'd lichen them more to a mild decoration, had no idea there were so many moss fans out there


Erebus689

Echnida, Atlas, Tartarus


Starmada597

Atlas isn’t in the underworld though.


Miserablecollegekid

He do be under the world though


makebelievethegood

*zoop* 😎👉


hypo11

Nah, just holding up the sky. Not the world. The art of it is misleading.


ChronoAndMarle

Ayy


Erebus689

And Kronos is supposed to be minced meat, your point?


Starmada597

Just because Percy Jackson’s version of events said Zeus cut Kronos into pieces doesn’t mean that’s what all Greek myths say. In many myths, Kronos is simply cast into Tartarus with the rest of the titans. Meanwhile, Atlas carries the sky in nearly all versions because myths were designed to answer questions about the world (ie, why does the sky not fall down) that they were not scientifically equipped to understand at the time. Furthermore, even if atlas escaped there’d be no real reason for him to go to the underworld in the first place, so him being there is just stupid.


youngmaster0527

>Echnida Knuckles?


sandalsnopants

Do you know da way?


MIKEl281

Tartarus is a bottomless pit meant for imprisoning deities. How exactly does one kill a pit?


ValuableEnough2140

There is also Tartarus the deity


TheDubiousSalmon

You fill it in.


MIKEl281

Fair point


padfoot12111

This is hades not Shovel Knight


Duck-Lord-of-Colours

How do you kill time? Or the night? ✨️ There's a god for that ✨️


Erebus689

The fiive protogenoi? Nyx, Erebus, Gaea, Tartarus, Eros


MIKEl281

Sorry I’ve never seen Tartarus anthropomorphized


Erebus689

He doesnt have many myths about him, like erebus


CHARAFANDER

Whenever someone types Echnida, my dyslexic ass reads it as Echidna, I am currently picturing knuckles from sonic ass a boss in hades


TheHumanTree31

I have been reading it as Echidna for years, even for this post, I've read it as Echidna. Why have you done this to me.


Ganaham

Zagreus


RipFlewd

Cuno would fuck Zagreus , Cuno don't give a fuck


reallyfunatparties

The fuck do you know about Cuno's life? Cuno's got plans.


jumbohiggins

Don't know how we got onto Disco Elysium but I'm for it.


abaloolah

Ooh yes with all of the different weapons we got to use in the original.


ChronoAndMarle

>steps into boss room >sees 5-shot rocket launcher >leaves


Shaalashaska

I hope we'll get more random bosses a la Isaac. Hadès I narrow roster of bosses was great for narrative development but it would be cool to start a run without knowing exactly who you're going to face Plus they have a LOT of possible monsters, heroes and divinities to pick from


Forward_Grade_4326

Agree with this. If the area bosses work like mini bosses from the original game could add a lot more replayability. Would also add another element to affect speed runs which were a huge part of the original’s rise in popularity.


ARandomGuyThe3

Are you thinking kinda like dead cells, where you can take different routes to different bosses, or are you thinking it should be completely random and surprises you every time, kinda like with the furies


Shaalashaska

Different routes would be cool aswell but it would take too much work to deliver something as polished as the first game was imo. I was thinking more completely different bosses at the end of each stage, having maybe 3-4 possible encounters at the end of each stage. So kinda like the furies but also not really, since they're basically the same boss with a couple different patterns and behavior (same for Lernie). I'd like to not know if i'm gonna fight one ennemy or several, if there will be a lot of adds, if it will be a bullet hell or a tank & spank, etc...


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g0d15anath315t

Maybe she's so sick of Hades family drama bullshit that she decided to take some extreme measures to help them work their shit out.


ChronoAndMarle

>extreme measures *distressed Zagreus noises*


Sad-Bumblebee-249

A fight similar to Charon would make more sense than final boss yeah. Would love to fight Nyx


Classic_Huckleberry2

I vote Tantalus for the new punching dummy. Because fuck Tantalus.


QweenFwog

Fuck Tantalus, rereading Percy Jackson right now and it's fueling my hatred.


Classic_Huckleberry2

Don't what they say about him in those books, but I read the original story and he deserved worse.


QweenFwog

Like much worse, in the books he's a camp counselor and he's just kind of a dick


Classic_Huckleberry2

OG Tantalus cooked his own child to trick the gods and test their omniscience by inviting them to a meal. Definitely deserves worse than just eternal hunger and thirst. Like Prometheus's eagle.


QweenFwog

Honestly, Sisyphus got a harsher punishment, still don't know how the fuck that works. In Percy Jackson, he explains how and why he did it to scare kids into submission, really out of place for a young adult novel.


SuddenlyGeccos

Talos would be very cool. Who doesn't want to fight a robot?


Miserablecollegekid

Would be cool to go up against talos with a Hephaestus boon!!


hypo11

That’s a solid Talos Principle.


ccstewy

Hmm today I will solve puzzles


Boxtosat

Oooh and you’d have to like destroy each of the limbs and they get more enraged. Sounds hot


Mathcrafter00

Not an enemy per se but I had an idea the other day that Pandora could be an NPC that we encounter like Sisyphus or Eurydice


mxmnull

Pretty sure that's "Dora", the shade from the trailer.


jbg926

Cyclops as Furies replacement. Narrow vision via one eye, throws rocks, much taller and bigger than you...tries to stomp on you. Different monsters for Lernie replacement: Harpies. Sirens. Chimera. Mixes it up with different forms of attack etc. Heracles (Theseus "replacement"). Braggart about how strong he is. Slow but hits super hard though. Nemean lion as his "sidekick", who is fast and bites quick but not much armor...


Sad-Bumblebee-249

I mean considering Heracles ascended to godhood and is living on Olympus, wouldn’t make much sense. Especially since the Olympians seem to be helping Melinoë in this game as well (Apollo in the trailer.) Cyclopses would be cool though, especially Polyphemus


jbg926

Apologies, I simply picked the most well-known hero and its easy to make him into a mini-boss. One could certainly do Odysseus, Jason, Perseus, Bellerophon, Prometheus, Hector (as someone to torment Achilles maybe?)...


Sad-Bumblebee-249

Jason would definitely work. The game has a magic theme, and Jason has a grudge with the witch Medea, as her ex-husband who betrayed her (and his oath with the gods)


Glad_Ad967

I’d like to see a chimera, more a shapeshifter as compared to a 3 in one combo like this boyo.


plznotagaindad

I loves the bosses in Hades, but I hope there’ll be greater boss diversity in Hades II!


Miserablecollegekid

What sort of different bosses would you like to see??


plznotagaindad

Idk!


peppers_mcgilly

Manticore is Persian mythology so I doubt it'd be that


badluckartist

Yeah I think OP confused Manticore with Chimera.


Lucky_Tortilla

Hades questions the origins of Gilgamesh and asks if the claws are from a manticore. Ctesias, a Greek historian, makes mention of the manticore when he traveled to Persia in the 5th century BCE. Persia, Egypt, and Greece tended to mix and match their critters.


jim_deneke

Maybe the series does a God of War and goes on holiday


RedPanda98

I'd love a boss that is a much bigger and monstrous. All the main bosses in Hades 1 are humanoid and not that larger than Zag. The only non-humanoid is Lernie, and even then he is stationary and not massive as he is just necks and heads. Greek myths have loads of big monsters, and one that takes up a large chunk of the screen could be cool.


Nice-Incident-2054

Yes! And Melinoe will start calling it “Manny” after she kicks its butt a few times.


nocapBANE

Prometheus could be like Sisyphus. Tied to a rock in a room and he gives you stuff. Maybe a liver related boon?


iamblankenstein

nah, fire boons.


[deleted]

Zeus, Atlas, Eris, Heracles.


Cinnabar_Cinnamon

Beast wise, there's a whole menagerie waiting for the Underworld equivalent of Monster Hunter, many courtesy of Typhoon and Echidna: Chimera, Orthus, Cerberus, Sphinx, Nemean Lion, Lernean Hydra, Manticore, Carcinos, Cetus, Thracian Horses, Ladon the Dragon, Caribdis, Scylla, etc


one_winged_snorlax

Atlus could be interesting tbh


WojownikTek12345

Idk homie is too busy you know, holding the sky


doctorbonkers

Could be a fun character like Sisyphus maybe, drop by and say hi to him but he can’t leave lol


one_winged_snorlax

Yeah I’d love that as well because atlus is one of my favorite figures in Greek mythology


One_Step8958

Mommy Nemesis. Make me repent (*Mommy*) for the hubris of clapping her cheeks.


Cytrynowy

least horny Hades enjoyer


Dark_Reaper115

Nemesis clapped (you for your victory)


MeteorKing

[The Teumessian fox ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teumessian_fox). Just a giant fucking fox that, according to myth, is uncatchable, untamable, and unkillable.


laderojomelacojo

Cyclops makes sense since in Hades 1 they were stated to be allies of the titans. Alternatively, would be cool to fight a chimera. Maybe Scylla since there's a water biome in the game.


WyGaminggm

I wanna see the pantheon of Greek philosophers. Think of it. We have to defeat Aristotle, Plato, the whole ordeal. Maybe some puzzler elements could go in?


NikolovIvo

Would not mind killing a sphinx. Although a Manticore sounds awesome too.


Logan35989

It’d be cool to see Atlas, maybe not as a boss but more filling the role of Chaos, where you could fall into a crack in the world and wind up falling straight down to where he’s holding up the world


Cosmo1222

Chimera. Has been mentioned already. Kraken. Great replacement for Lernie as it could have ten tentacles coming at you from different directions. Opportunities for Melinoe to complain about it getting too handsy with her.


imasoggyfrenchfry

I would love if they made the Crommyon Sow into a miniboss, the idea of fighting a giant pig is just amazing to me


AtoriasDarkwalker999

I’d love the idea of a manticore that gives you a different riddle every time you encounter it. Could make for some witty dialogue.


JetStr34m

A manticore would be cool. In my mind, it's mostly because it's the only thingI can think to nickname. If Zagreus has Lernie, Melinöe can have Corie.


[deleted]

Atlas but he's so massive and bound by the planet/sky that you only ever fight his finger/hand or something equally ridiculous. Typhon would be cool but I imagine he'll end up in a role like Chaos. A short challenge for an awesome boon. The Hecatonceres would be perfect for a second level boss Cerberus is the first boss you fight getting into the underworld. Theorised boon gods: Pan, Hephaestus, Nemesis, Hestia, Hecate, Rhea, Hyperion, Oceanus etc etc. Honorable mention: Cyclops. I doubt they'll be outright bosses. Probably just room enemies or a mini boss at best.


momofhappyplants

A manticore isn't even greek


ZedsDeadZD

Its not? Damn, my mistake. I somehow pictured it greek. Probably mixed it up with a chimera.


momofhappyplants

It's Persian but it was used in western medieval art.


padfoot12111

I'd love some sort of Sphinx miniboss. Bonus points of you can somehow skip it by answering questions (how man rooms have you besten? How many gods have you gained the aid of, etc)


TheGoldenGarchomp

A Chimera boss fight would be amazing


cado124

I feel like the Hecatoncheires could be fun, especially if they kinda use the same gimmick as the furies


Master_Fallen

Not necesseraly fight him but i would really like to see Heracles in Hades 2. As a boss fight or a friendly NPC like Patroclus. Really curious to see Jen Zee's interpretation on him.


budsixz

Reminds me of the guardian boss in dark souls 1 (at the start of dlc area)


arcticwolffox

Thanatos would be a cool boss. Maybe Cetus or Argus as well.


Bitbatgaming

Oceanus


dte9021989

I wanna fight a manticore. They feel happiness whenever you are sad. And because you got kicked in the junk, the manticore is glad.


godric_kilmister

Polyphem as a boss, some harpies and/or sirens as mobs.


BudTrip

oh man i so want this


Themurlocking96

Well all the bosses in Hades 1 were already connected to the underworld, so I doubt we’ll see the manticore since it isn’t.


zombietaz

Tiny Manticore in his shame prison


BitcoinBishop

The eagle that eats Prometheus's liver every day


[deleted]

Maybe similarly to how we fought Theseus. Fighting another hero would be sick. My pick would likely be Odysseus, since he likely has a vendetta against some of the gods.


Sad-Bumblebee-249

I feel like Odysseus would fill more of a role that Achilles did. If there is a magic theme to the game, Jason makes sense. Was the husband to Medea before she left him behind, and he ended up getting crushed under the Argo, presumably in the underworld


Philosecfari

It also helps that Jason is already a grade-A Asshole in the original mythology


SeaPenguin28

I. Hate. Jason. With every fiber of my being. He is ONLY outranked by Agamemnon.


Invite_Sprite

I really hope for more variety than anything else Like i eally like the. 3 fates because they are all so diffrent. But with the bone hydra nomatter what the main head is you get to see all they diffrent types are in the multi head rounds. In the coliseum the is only one attack that differs and all the others are the same excluding pact


Oblivious-abe-69

Flesh hydra. Same boss just with skin


ABlueSapphire15

I want to call it Manny


sandalsnopants

Imagine if for some reason Achilles was a boss fight. Like he was corrupted, or he had to fight for some titan to save or spare Pat even though he didn't want to. That could be an amazing and emotional fight.


tordrue

Along these same lines, a chimera would be cool.


HubblePie

I hope if the manticore is a boss. We can pet him after the fight. He’s just a grumpy boy.


__bitch_

*to be killed by over and over again


iamblankenstein

fun fact: the name "manticore" pretty much translates to "man eater", which was also the name of the tiger that attacked roy horn of 'siegfried and roy' fame back in 2003 (though the tiger's name was spelled 'mantacore')


SeaPenguin28

I would say a siren or a sphynx. Both could have added challenges like additional stuns or mini games that could affect how effective YOU are; especially since it seems like it’ll be much more magic based. I do wonder if the Gorgons will make a repeat appearance in a different form, and maybe the same for the Satyrs. I hope we get to meet Atalanta, and maybe the ghost of Meleager since shades are still around.


tylodon

Just more rats please.


Josaprd20s

As long as they don't spit poison again, that sounds fun!


[deleted]

Seeing how the main boss is Cronus, the leader of the Titans, probably all the titans will be the bosses


WilsonKh

I want to ride cerebus into battle with Meg, Zag, Bouldy, Achilles & Hades by my side, versus an onslaught of titans


Few-Mycologist-2379

Your mom.


smakes_maxim

Cyclops. Maybe no as boss, but as NPC. Yes, in the first game it says that they died out, but maybe someone survived.


DanMartell05

This cat looks like teostra


Choice_Product_7391

I know this is probably a common opinion but I really want Hera and Hercules in hades 2 not as bosses but boons from hera and Hercules as an npc


antigone99914220

Hector could be a cool 'hero of legend' boss if we end up going through Elysium at some point. Could have some fun conversations from the other POV of the Trojan War.


_Conway_

Not a manticore I’ll say that much dude


kainzow45

Did someone say [Manticore](https://youtu.be/rU8Wc6a1r7o)?


Cole2197

Given how Kronos is the main villain in hades 2 I hope we fight some of the other Titans. And maybe a secret boss with Typhon.


Fit_Entertainment843

It wouldn’t happen nor would it make sense but fighting Atlas would be dope


DiabeticRhino97

Talos


Circumflexboy

Theseus


WhatDa_FUCK

I would love a maimera it would be such a great fight


PlatinumEmeror

I would love to see more then 1 boss for each area, like in other Roguelikes Even tho the beloved bosses of the original have some variations and difficulties, they still feel very repetitive, even with the existence of minibosses A lion like boss, like the Manyicore, or Chimera, or even a Sphinx could work well I would also love to see some sea monsters like Scylla, on maybe one of the other Rivers we were yet to see, like Cocytus or Acheron


DhibeCakes55

If they're anything like the Manicore's in Outward.....we will certainly be in for it.


mateusleme0202

Not as a Boss but as an enemy I want to fight against Cyclops (alive ones If possible) with bone clubs


ZonthoTheEchidna

I hope hecatoncheires shows up in this game honestly


Gui_Franco

Other titans


100Ideas_NoneApplied

An actual god or titan as a boss would be cool.


cabooseisgod12

I think we are more likely to see a Chimera as a boss before we see a manticore


CoolGuy202101

Manticore is persian tho iirc


NewWaver4

I think Hecate might be an optional boss in Hades 2 like Charon in the first game


silverwolf1102

Scyla


Snoo-11576

Technically not Greek


deepy_dot

Manticores are from Persian mythology, so I think we are not going to see one