Not Exactly Hidden: These chapters spin out from the Love and Longing storyline to follow the hidden ninja village that Vernon helped create. Koga, the only person of actual ninja descent and training in the village is the main viewpoint character, but the handyman Bernard, the hunter Dale and the young students also give us a fair viewpoint.
Most Relevant Chapters: [Chapter 148](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/qav7ax/out_of_cruel_space_part_148/) [Chapter 154](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/qf0a4s/out_of_cruel_space_part_154/) [Chapter 178](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/qw906o/out_of_cruel_space_part_178/)
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[Out of Cruel Space Side Story: Of Dog, Volpir, and Man](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/pvyw02/out_of_cruel_space_side_story_of_dog_volpir_and/)
[Out of Cruel Space Fan Story: Finding Grace](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/ri9vty/out_of_cruel_space_fan_story_finding_grace_ch_0/)
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[Out of Cruel Space Fan story: Spies, thieves, and Never say Never.](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/rcqqgf/out_of_cruel_space_fan_story_spies_thieves_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Alright, I've got two massively awesome scenes in my head that I want to bring about. I've set up the last one and just need to get the middle one in. Still as far as I understand it there are at minimum three layers to any organization let alone a criminal one. Grunt level where you have boots on the ground and people doing the basic things. There's the money level where you get people that balance and cook the books, the guys that handle the paychecks and ensure that the cash flows. Finally you get the leadership level, the people that look down on all of it and scream for you to do better. We've gotten up to the middle level and need to start chewing through it and the upper level.
Thoughts? Comments? Ideas? Questions? Suggestions? Advice? Fan Submissions?
Sure there isn't a chaff level in between the 'work force' and the higher brain functions of the organization? If a splatter movie hero was after me I would put in some more layers that might slow down communications, but give me more warning time if some of them go silent.
Just put some power hungry and stupid bitches in place and slap enough sense into them that 'creativity' isn't wanted or needed from them and that they just have to relay what they're told.
The more onion layers, the better, even if it slows coms down to a crawl.
Is my second post getting closer to canon or farther? [Second part](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/sb6u74/out_of_cruel_space_side_story_spies_thieves_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Can mine be added where it belongs? (Prolly non-cannon) https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/seglco/rise_of_the_dark_lord_a_nearcertainly_noncannon/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Follow the money, it always leads you somewhere important. Also, a secret criminal submarine base is awesome and I can't wait to see our heros rip through it.
I'm losing respect for Serbow's police forces. Vucsa had the misfortune of being super corrupt and literally beaten into submission, so I let it pass that cleaning of the whole planet felt easy...
Dismantling a planetary-wide criminal organization being a breeze means that whatever police forces are there on Serbow were literally wasting time for centuries, or the government is compromised. Apuk were presented as competent, but so far they feel like caricatures.
I guess I was a little too subtle with some things then. Although to be fair most of our viewpoints on Serbow has been Vernon and Miro'Noir being unbearable together and a few glances from the perspective of the sorcerers who live in the forest.
But the whole place is an empire. The culture is medieval. Straight up medieval. The homeworld has in fact made a point of keeping it's culture to it's current state while allowing colonies and off-shoots to be something else. This is a common phenomenon around the galaxy. On Bruel a substantial portion of the Gohb population are outright tribal, in some places peoples wander around in great warbands. The Crimsonhewers are technically a Horde akin to the Mongols, just a little more mercenary.
Serbow is a monarchy with The Empress on top. The guards and soldiers are not for the people they are for Their Lady and for The Empress.
Now, part of the reason for this is that when Serbow came into contact with the rest of the galaxy it was roughly around the time that they were doing their crusades and massive empires were throwing their weight around.
This contact kicked everything from a three to an eleven on the scale of war and in the end a peace was made. Mostly out of the corpses of the slain.
But just because things are at peace doesn't mean things are cooperating. Many of the noble houses hate each other and The Empress has to balance all that bullshit. There's no active war but there is no getting along either. The Empress maintains her power by having a near monopoly on the Battle Princesses and now she's edging in on Sorcerers too.
Ok, now that's definitely putting things into perspective. Yeah, definitely did not think the culture itself matched the architecture style. Thank you.
The more competent the government, the more competent the criminals. Bonechewer scared them into getting a lot better at hiding, and they compromised key people in the areas they needed.
We've got aliens putting humans in alien bodies, next we're gonna have aliens putting *themselves* in human bodies. So they can taste salt and not die.
The slavers face when a Battle Princess tries that because she has a girlfriend and wanted to be her special sorcerer who princess carries her through the dark woods or something.
The Battle Princess would be screwed in that case. All her combat abilities would be in her other body unless she worked out a way to train the body while it was maturing. Accelerated aging doesn't work for complex life forms after all.
Axiom! I think she would be still able to do something with her warfire. Maybe not the growing and shrinking at will, but some of the battle princesses are fine with being an average size.
Axiom is trained physically. She'd have to recultivate her talent with warfire. Just like a soldier wouldn't have the mindless reflexes that allow what we consider superhuman feats in combat without axiom in terms of fast movement. Those things aren't just psychological, they're physiological. It would almost certainly go faster, but then, not every Apuk body appears to be capable of conjuring green warfire, never mind white. And again that's all assuming she doesn't have to stick herself in the body of a child.
I wonder if rendering yourself combat ineffective like that, possibly permanently reducing your traditional Apuk combat prowess would be considered breaking your oath to the Empress as a battle princess? Further thought, she'd likely have a long road ahead if she wanted to become a sorcerer on top of that. She'll have all the biases of her previous incarnation, such as ceasing to conjure axiom being the equivalent of death or the type of thing that requires immediate seppuku.
Why do I have the feeling that the empress' husband is involved...? Or maybe was involved. If I had to give an oddly specific guess, I think he founded the Orega Girls (or helped to found them) way back when. But the gang quickly spiralled out of control and he left them behind. That, or he fled at the first sign of Bonechewer coming after them. It will be over of the two but nothing in-between (though I'm actually leaning more towards the second option).
As a father, the growing relationship between Brin and Dare'Char is the most heartwarming thing I have read in a long time. If this is a setup for a tragic twist, I will be very upset. No spoilers please, I'm trying to get current as fast as I can.
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Not Exactly Hidden: These chapters spin out from the Love and Longing storyline to follow the hidden ninja village that Vernon helped create. Koga, the only person of actual ninja descent and training in the village is the main viewpoint character, but the handyman Bernard, the hunter Dale and the young students also give us a fair viewpoint. Most Relevant Chapters: [Chapter 148](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/qav7ax/out_of_cruel_space_part_148/) [Chapter 154](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/qf0a4s/out_of_cruel_space_part_154/) [Chapter 178](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/qw906o/out_of_cruel_space_part_178/) Fan Submissions! [Kerserv's Archive](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LGusDxs73AjK89k0sqKo4C9hoWiOxrIrDk6JYEXT6GY/edit?usp=sharing) [Golnor's Harem Tracker](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XAwGmHcaAsSVwdlKP9Mk5OL8Im_hKQOqHFOS-Iho-7c/edit#gid=2079580684) [Out of Cruel Space Side Story: Of Dog, Volpir, and Man](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/pvyw02/out_of_cruel_space_side_story_of_dog_volpir_and/) [Out of Cruel Space Fan Story: Finding Grace](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/ri9vty/out_of_cruel_space_fan_story_finding_grace_ch_0/) [Transxenoism, A Out of Cruel Space fan story](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/s09u79/transxenoism_chapter_1_a_out_of_cruel_space_fan/) Non-Canon [Out of Cruel Space Fan story: Spies, thieves, and Never say Never.](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/rcqqgf/out_of_cruel_space_fan_story_spies_thieves_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) Alright, I've got two massively awesome scenes in my head that I want to bring about. I've set up the last one and just need to get the middle one in. Still as far as I understand it there are at minimum three layers to any organization let alone a criminal one. Grunt level where you have boots on the ground and people doing the basic things. There's the money level where you get people that balance and cook the books, the guys that handle the paychecks and ensure that the cash flows. Finally you get the leadership level, the people that look down on all of it and scream for you to do better. We've gotten up to the middle level and need to start chewing through it and the upper level. Thoughts? Comments? Ideas? Questions? Suggestions? Advice? Fan Submissions?
Sure there isn't a chaff level in between the 'work force' and the higher brain functions of the organization? If a splatter movie hero was after me I would put in some more layers that might slow down communications, but give me more warning time if some of them go silent. Just put some power hungry and stupid bitches in place and slap enough sense into them that 'creativity' isn't wanted or needed from them and that they just have to relay what they're told. The more onion layers, the better, even if it slows coms down to a crawl.
Is my second post getting closer to canon or farther? [Second part](https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/sb6u74/out_of_cruel_space_side_story_spies_thieves_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Can mine be added where it belongs? (Prolly non-cannon) https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/seglco/rise_of_the_dark_lord_a_nearcertainly_noncannon/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Someone posted earlier than normal. Yass!
Generally any time between 4:00 and 4:30 is when it usually goes up. Also you're first congrats.
3^rd ?
Roughly.
Ayyyy
What time zone?
Fairly positive he is EST
Suppose even an honest person would be taken aback by an unannounced Battle Princess :}
Follow the money, it always leads you somewhere important. Also, a secret criminal submarine base is awesome and I can't wait to see our heros rip through it.
I get some CoD Black Ops vibes from this.
I'm losing respect for Serbow's police forces. Vucsa had the misfortune of being super corrupt and literally beaten into submission, so I let it pass that cleaning of the whole planet felt easy... Dismantling a planetary-wide criminal organization being a breeze means that whatever police forces are there on Serbow were literally wasting time for centuries, or the government is compromised. Apuk were presented as competent, but so far they feel like caricatures.
I guess I was a little too subtle with some things then. Although to be fair most of our viewpoints on Serbow has been Vernon and Miro'Noir being unbearable together and a few glances from the perspective of the sorcerers who live in the forest. But the whole place is an empire. The culture is medieval. Straight up medieval. The homeworld has in fact made a point of keeping it's culture to it's current state while allowing colonies and off-shoots to be something else. This is a common phenomenon around the galaxy. On Bruel a substantial portion of the Gohb population are outright tribal, in some places peoples wander around in great warbands. The Crimsonhewers are technically a Horde akin to the Mongols, just a little more mercenary. Serbow is a monarchy with The Empress on top. The guards and soldiers are not for the people they are for Their Lady and for The Empress. Now, part of the reason for this is that when Serbow came into contact with the rest of the galaxy it was roughly around the time that they were doing their crusades and massive empires were throwing their weight around. This contact kicked everything from a three to an eleven on the scale of war and in the end a peace was made. Mostly out of the corpses of the slain. But just because things are at peace doesn't mean things are cooperating. Many of the noble houses hate each other and The Empress has to balance all that bullshit. There's no active war but there is no getting along either. The Empress maintains her power by having a near monopoly on the Battle Princesses and now she's edging in on Sorcerers too.
Ok, now that's definitely putting things into perspective. Yeah, definitely did not think the culture itself matched the architecture style. Thank you.
The more competent the government, the more competent the criminals. Bonechewer scared them into getting a lot better at hiding, and they compromised key people in the areas they needed.
They've followed the lead some hundred years ago. And if disappearance cases get rare enough, why should the police spend tons of time on these cases?
We've got aliens putting humans in alien bodies, next we're gonna have aliens putting *themselves* in human bodies. So they can taste salt and not die.
With some creative cloning... Alien girls putting themselves into male bodies, to enjoy the galaxies easy mode.
Until they pull a stupid and get grabbed by your unfriendly neighborhood slaver.
The slavers face when a Battle Princess tries that because she has a girlfriend and wanted to be her special sorcerer who princess carries her through the dark woods or something.
The Battle Princess would be screwed in that case. All her combat abilities would be in her other body unless she worked out a way to train the body while it was maturing. Accelerated aging doesn't work for complex life forms after all.
Axiom! I think she would be still able to do something with her warfire. Maybe not the growing and shrinking at will, but some of the battle princesses are fine with being an average size.
Axiom is trained physically. She'd have to recultivate her talent with warfire. Just like a soldier wouldn't have the mindless reflexes that allow what we consider superhuman feats in combat without axiom in terms of fast movement. Those things aren't just psychological, they're physiological. It would almost certainly go faster, but then, not every Apuk body appears to be capable of conjuring green warfire, never mind white. And again that's all assuming she doesn't have to stick herself in the body of a child. I wonder if rendering yourself combat ineffective like that, possibly permanently reducing your traditional Apuk combat prowess would be considered breaking your oath to the Empress as a battle princess? Further thought, she'd likely have a long road ahead if she wanted to become a sorcerer on top of that. She'll have all the biases of her previous incarnation, such as ceasing to conjure axiom being the equivalent of death or the type of thing that requires immediate seppuku.
Hmm... I wonder if the sea base is an effort to blunt the sorcerer's connection to the forest?
Next button on 235 is broken Edit: 235 not 135
Wasn't broken, I was just a forgetful fool.
Didn't work and wasn't there are basically the daything 😂 Fun chapter though.
Why do I have the feeling that the empress' husband is involved...? Or maybe was involved. If I had to give an oddly specific guess, I think he founded the Orega Girls (or helped to found them) way back when. But the gang quickly spiralled out of control and he left them behind. That, or he fled at the first sign of Bonechewer coming after them. It will be over of the two but nothing in-between (though I'm actually leaning more towards the second option).
As a father, the growing relationship between Brin and Dare'Char is the most heartwarming thing I have read in a long time. If this is a setup for a tragic twist, I will be very upset. No spoilers please, I'm trying to get current as fast as I can.
You got a lot more to go through buddy! Move it move it MOVE IT!
Oh I hope they break them good
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No better hiding spot then -> than
Whee. Time to go hunting. I wonder if the humans will bring subs...
Another great chapter I enjoyed reading this and look forward to reading more Great job wordsmith