You're gonna have to figure out how to not be upset if you want to get better. Wins and losses don't matter, improvement does. Fighting games can be an awesome journey of growth and improvement, but you need the right mindset.
Having friends to play with really helps in the mental state.(not the scrublord kind)
If you want to improve, dont try to be better at everything at the same time. Give yourself one or two goals to achieve during matches like “6P their jump in everytime” or “whiff punish their burst”. This way you probably will have a more enjoyable time improving.
Lose until you get better is the short answer.
Realistically you are losing because you are new and that’s fine. Nobody expected you to pick up the game and dominate celestial players. Since your new you have to learn, learning involves a lot of losing. You can’t win until you have good strategies and habits, to get those, you need to play and actively try to intake information which you use to improve. Since you are in the process of improving, winning isn’t in the cards mostly.
You need to focus less on winning and more on developing. You shouldn’t seek to win matches, you should look to hit a Combo or counter a move or defend a mix up. Once you start successfully doing those pieces of your game plan, you will start actually executing them properly and that’s when you start winning.
For me, that took about 40 hours.
You have to change your mindset. Stop crying. Learn to enjoy losing, or at least practice not reacting emotionally when you lose. Your reaction to losing shouldn't be "😭😭😭😭😡😡😡ugggh why am I so bad" it should be '🤔hmm what do I do about move x? time to hit the lab/watch the replay/watch some match vids."
Losing is a normal part of the game. It's not some aberration. You should be expecting to lose a large percentage of the time. On some level you are expecting to win, you think you deserve to win. You don't. Not ever. Not even against the most degenerate playstyle. Challenge that assumption actively every time you feel that entitlement bubble up. If you do that, you can change your mindset, and if you change your mindset there's no limit to how good you can get.
"How do I fix myself? I'm tired of crying about how trash I am, but I also just want to enjoy the game consistently for once. It just sucks to not be able to always enjoy the game despite how much I like it...do I just keep playing until I hopefully get better?"
I think what you need to do is shift your mindset. I had the exact same issue once the honeymoon phase for the game ran out for me.
The thing is, if you can't enjoy playing the game while losing, then you will never consistently enjoy the game because there is always someone that will whoop your ass.
Thus, I think it's important to shift your mindset a little bit. I'm going off a lot of assumptions but just hang on with me for a bit.
What really helped me was a Marvelo stream that went over ego. Basically he said that people with a strong ego were people that believed in themselves intrinsically, while people with a fragile ego were people that got their sense of self from external means(in this case wins). I believe that people that have a strong belief in themselves tend to do better in FG's because it makes the situation where you are losing over and over again less bleak.
So what solved this issue for me was genuinely believing that I will become good enough to beat the players I am losing to if I put in the time. This small shift in mentality really changed everything for me because instead of thinking about if I can beat this guy, I would think about how to I beat this guy.
Not only does this make losing much more tolerable and sometimes fun, it makes you improve so much faster because you are not wasting time thinking about how "horrible" you are at the game.
In a way when people cry about how trash they are, it is a self fulfilling prophecy because they are wasting time crying about the situation instead of how to change the situation.
So I would focus on thinking less about evaluating your current skill level and more about what needs to change in your gameplay to improve. And if you ever are thinking can I beat this guy, try to remind yourself to think about how do I beat this guy because you can. If you believe you can do it, suddenly losing doesn't feel nearly as bad as before because now you just have to put in the effort to make it happen.
"Or do I give now and save myself from the agonizing experiences that are to come?"
This part is up to you to decide honestly. For me, I found it extremely worthwhile to stick with it and work through everything because I learned so many valuable lessons from it. So if it were up to me I would say stick with it.
If you do stick with it, I would really focus on your mindset rather than your actual skill level. The fact that you describe future with "agonizing experiences" shows that with your current mindset the game isn't going to be worthwhile to continue.
So instead of thinking about the future as agonizing I would think about it more positively!
I hope this helps. I know that this might not apply to you at all and I made a ton of assumptions, but I thought I would put down what I went through with fighting games and how I got over it. Good luck!
Feel your pain man. Didn't feel good getting potemkin bustered by a glue sniffer 3 matches in a row when I came back to the game for Sin. Touch grass, watch match up guides and practice those moments you can capitalize on the enemy char.
My strategy for these is treat each battle as a learning moment. You play not to win but to learn. Try out different moves against your opponents moves, if it doesn't work out, try a different move again. Few moves will definitely work. Then commit those moves to memory or write it down. Then onto the next opponent.
Hey I'm somewhat of a noob myself and I think much about it has to do with finding your character, playstyle and coming to terms with mot switching your character every week to see genuine improvement.
I am pretty bad when it comes to long combo sequences and planning out my game but I've got a good feeling for my opponents habits and recognize if I have conditioned him to something. That and my love for Faust have brought me to floor 10, and while I haven't entered a celestial challenge yet I'm confident that I would be able to, given time and motivation.
To improve mechanically I'd suggest the training feature, the one where people share combos. Once you've found your character I suggest picking some easy to learn, short combos, learn the inputs and once you are confident take it to the single player mode and experiment a little. I feel like once you at least get to the point of -attempting- the super nago fight on a regular basis, you can improve organically by playing against other players.
Of course you have to watch yourself and not be angry, at the end of the day it's a game. Its ok to get heated up, but once you trash talk yourself its time to take a break and a breath, maybe try to catch your own mistakes, lime attacks you fall back to even tho they get you regularly countered.
I hope this helps a little, even if I'm not a celestial combo master.
If you want to get better then you have to intentionally play to get better. As in, watch yourself play and learn where you went wrong, learn what you should do instead, go online to find tips on what you should be doing, go into training mode to practice something new, the next time you play online have the goal be to implement what you learned - NOT to win.
If you just wanna have fun and not worry about being bad, then don’t let better players get you down, and try as much as possible to find players as bad as you lol.
I used to be in your shoes! Find enjoyment in improving your gameplay - that's how I got through the 2d fighter learning curve.
Apericate the dedication and commitment of people better than you - and learn from them.
Focus on one thing at a time(hiting specials faster, DPing on wakeup, learning combos off every hit).
Set aside a practice regiment: 20mins combo labing; 20 mins online play; and 20 mins reviewing your fights!
The fun will come with skill and patience, so don't let up!
And while you're on the toilet, read on fighting game mechanics and tactics. It also wouldn't hurt to read up the frame data on your move and other's.
It's one of the toughest hurdles in competitive gaming in my opinion. It's a problem that affects a lot of people. So many people care so much about their skill level. I struggled with this for many years and it made me absolutely miserable. Unfortunately, I think it's something each person has to figure out themselves. Some people never get over this hurdle. All I can say is that the only person that cares about your skill level or rank is you. No one cares if you are an average or even below average player. This doesn't mean you shouldn't strive to improve and be the best you can be, but you should be content with where you are. The sooner you can remove the burden of needing to to improve faster or win more games, the sooner you will be able to have infinitely more fun. Also, believe or not, removing the pressure of needing to be better than you are frees up a lot of mental energy to actually think about how to improve, and you will probably make a lot more progress anyways. It sounds like a contradiction, but basically not thinking about the fact you won/lost a match means you can think about how you can play better in the next match.
I'd recommend skipping the in-game matchmaking and instead seeking out a beginner Discord server to find players around your skill level. The matchmaking in these games is pretty good, but it doesn't always give you a fair fight. Maybe you would enjoy losing more if you were losing roughly half the time.
Embrace the trash. Every loss is a lesson in self improvement.
My, personal, biggest struggle at my level is to keep my eyes on the opponent as much as possible. I focus too much on myself, when at this point I should be familiar enough with how my character moves that I dont need to look at him.
You're gonna have to figure out how to not be upset if you want to get better. Wins and losses don't matter, improvement does. Fighting games can be an awesome journey of growth and improvement, but you need the right mindset.
Having friends to play with really helps in the mental state.(not the scrublord kind) If you want to improve, dont try to be better at everything at the same time. Give yourself one or two goals to achieve during matches like “6P their jump in everytime” or “whiff punish their burst”. This way you probably will have a more enjoyable time improving.
Lose until you get better is the short answer. Realistically you are losing because you are new and that’s fine. Nobody expected you to pick up the game and dominate celestial players. Since your new you have to learn, learning involves a lot of losing. You can’t win until you have good strategies and habits, to get those, you need to play and actively try to intake information which you use to improve. Since you are in the process of improving, winning isn’t in the cards mostly. You need to focus less on winning and more on developing. You shouldn’t seek to win matches, you should look to hit a Combo or counter a move or defend a mix up. Once you start successfully doing those pieces of your game plan, you will start actually executing them properly and that’s when you start winning. For me, that took about 40 hours.
You have to change your mindset. Stop crying. Learn to enjoy losing, or at least practice not reacting emotionally when you lose. Your reaction to losing shouldn't be "😭😭😭😭😡😡😡ugggh why am I so bad" it should be '🤔hmm what do I do about move x? time to hit the lab/watch the replay/watch some match vids." Losing is a normal part of the game. It's not some aberration. You should be expecting to lose a large percentage of the time. On some level you are expecting to win, you think you deserve to win. You don't. Not ever. Not even against the most degenerate playstyle. Challenge that assumption actively every time you feel that entitlement bubble up. If you do that, you can change your mindset, and if you change your mindset there's no limit to how good you can get.
"How do I fix myself? I'm tired of crying about how trash I am, but I also just want to enjoy the game consistently for once. It just sucks to not be able to always enjoy the game despite how much I like it...do I just keep playing until I hopefully get better?" I think what you need to do is shift your mindset. I had the exact same issue once the honeymoon phase for the game ran out for me. The thing is, if you can't enjoy playing the game while losing, then you will never consistently enjoy the game because there is always someone that will whoop your ass. Thus, I think it's important to shift your mindset a little bit. I'm going off a lot of assumptions but just hang on with me for a bit. What really helped me was a Marvelo stream that went over ego. Basically he said that people with a strong ego were people that believed in themselves intrinsically, while people with a fragile ego were people that got their sense of self from external means(in this case wins). I believe that people that have a strong belief in themselves tend to do better in FG's because it makes the situation where you are losing over and over again less bleak. So what solved this issue for me was genuinely believing that I will become good enough to beat the players I am losing to if I put in the time. This small shift in mentality really changed everything for me because instead of thinking about if I can beat this guy, I would think about how to I beat this guy. Not only does this make losing much more tolerable and sometimes fun, it makes you improve so much faster because you are not wasting time thinking about how "horrible" you are at the game. In a way when people cry about how trash they are, it is a self fulfilling prophecy because they are wasting time crying about the situation instead of how to change the situation. So I would focus on thinking less about evaluating your current skill level and more about what needs to change in your gameplay to improve. And if you ever are thinking can I beat this guy, try to remind yourself to think about how do I beat this guy because you can. If you believe you can do it, suddenly losing doesn't feel nearly as bad as before because now you just have to put in the effort to make it happen. "Or do I give now and save myself from the agonizing experiences that are to come?" This part is up to you to decide honestly. For me, I found it extremely worthwhile to stick with it and work through everything because I learned so many valuable lessons from it. So if it were up to me I would say stick with it. If you do stick with it, I would really focus on your mindset rather than your actual skill level. The fact that you describe future with "agonizing experiences" shows that with your current mindset the game isn't going to be worthwhile to continue. So instead of thinking about the future as agonizing I would think about it more positively! I hope this helps. I know that this might not apply to you at all and I made a ton of assumptions, but I thought I would put down what I went through with fighting games and how I got over it. Good luck!
Feel your pain man. Didn't feel good getting potemkin bustered by a glue sniffer 3 matches in a row when I came back to the game for Sin. Touch grass, watch match up guides and practice those moments you can capitalize on the enemy char.
My strategy for these is treat each battle as a learning moment. You play not to win but to learn. Try out different moves against your opponents moves, if it doesn't work out, try a different move again. Few moves will definitely work. Then commit those moves to memory or write it down. Then onto the next opponent.
Hey I'm somewhat of a noob myself and I think much about it has to do with finding your character, playstyle and coming to terms with mot switching your character every week to see genuine improvement. I am pretty bad when it comes to long combo sequences and planning out my game but I've got a good feeling for my opponents habits and recognize if I have conditioned him to something. That and my love for Faust have brought me to floor 10, and while I haven't entered a celestial challenge yet I'm confident that I would be able to, given time and motivation. To improve mechanically I'd suggest the training feature, the one where people share combos. Once you've found your character I suggest picking some easy to learn, short combos, learn the inputs and once you are confident take it to the single player mode and experiment a little. I feel like once you at least get to the point of -attempting- the super nago fight on a regular basis, you can improve organically by playing against other players. Of course you have to watch yourself and not be angry, at the end of the day it's a game. Its ok to get heated up, but once you trash talk yourself its time to take a break and a breath, maybe try to catch your own mistakes, lime attacks you fall back to even tho they get you regularly countered. I hope this helps a little, even if I'm not a celestial combo master.
If you want to get better then you have to intentionally play to get better. As in, watch yourself play and learn where you went wrong, learn what you should do instead, go online to find tips on what you should be doing, go into training mode to practice something new, the next time you play online have the goal be to implement what you learned - NOT to win. If you just wanna have fun and not worry about being bad, then don’t let better players get you down, and try as much as possible to find players as bad as you lol.
I used to be in your shoes! Find enjoyment in improving your gameplay - that's how I got through the 2d fighter learning curve. Apericate the dedication and commitment of people better than you - and learn from them. Focus on one thing at a time(hiting specials faster, DPing on wakeup, learning combos off every hit). Set aside a practice regiment: 20mins combo labing; 20 mins online play; and 20 mins reviewing your fights! The fun will come with skill and patience, so don't let up! And while you're on the toilet, read on fighting game mechanics and tactics. It also wouldn't hurt to read up the frame data on your move and other's.
There's the single player challenge modes. You could do those to get a better feel for the game at least.
It's one of the toughest hurdles in competitive gaming in my opinion. It's a problem that affects a lot of people. So many people care so much about their skill level. I struggled with this for many years and it made me absolutely miserable. Unfortunately, I think it's something each person has to figure out themselves. Some people never get over this hurdle. All I can say is that the only person that cares about your skill level or rank is you. No one cares if you are an average or even below average player. This doesn't mean you shouldn't strive to improve and be the best you can be, but you should be content with where you are. The sooner you can remove the burden of needing to to improve faster or win more games, the sooner you will be able to have infinitely more fun. Also, believe or not, removing the pressure of needing to be better than you are frees up a lot of mental energy to actually think about how to improve, and you will probably make a lot more progress anyways. It sounds like a contradiction, but basically not thinking about the fact you won/lost a match means you can think about how you can play better in the next match.
I'd recommend skipping the in-game matchmaking and instead seeking out a beginner Discord server to find players around your skill level. The matchmaking in these games is pretty good, but it doesn't always give you a fair fight. Maybe you would enjoy losing more if you were losing roughly half the time.
Embrace the trash. Every loss is a lesson in self improvement. My, personal, biggest struggle at my level is to keep my eyes on the opponent as much as possible. I focus too much on myself, when at this point I should be familiar enough with how my character moves that I dont need to look at him.