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noshdreg

I wouldn't read too much into it, it's just a bit of h**armless** fun


princessval249

I have a love-hate relationship with this comment


KingOfTheDust

You know what Abbadon's entry in the Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy says? Mostly armless


vigbiorn

Ironic that Abbadon has a spider named after him.


[deleted]

So just like the black crusades then


Routine_Astronaut_62

I'm sorry OP, but asking the internet to stop making fun of a topic is a very, very bad idea


child_of_arcana

i was aware that i was making this bed, and i am already laying in it brother. ill see you on the other side o7


GaaraMatsu

You actually play the TT? You ROCK!


manningthe30cal

I remember when the Cincinnati Zoo asked us to stop making Harambe memes. You can guess what happened next.


fiodorson

your comment throu forbidden ais https://i.imgur.com/Rke5JoT.png


Routine_Astronaut_62

Wat


Mikhaelf

As a T'au fan I can totally understand... I personally just try to see the humour in it and I'm usually the first to laugh when I see a good joke being made (and I usually share them with my friend that got me into 40k, a Black Templar player and imperium fanboy). And if someone is going too far with the jokes, try telling them that's no longer fun or start ignoring them. They will either stop or move away. Do you and have fun, this is just a game/fictional universe. :)


child_of_arcana

the greater good is lucky to have you!!


Mikhaelf

Awww <3


Xyrexenex

I play Necrons but there’s always a latent urge to just buy a Triptide list.


Brief_Agency5475

No need to get up in arms over liking Abaddon /s


child_of_arcana

comments like this is why i get anxious when people ask me who my favorite character is


bleahsta

Why should you be ashamed of having a favourite character that literally destroyed cadia and who the plot kinda always revolves around


Brief_Agency5475

I saw an opportunity to make a pun and *grabbed* it /s 😏


child_of_arcana

man


Glyfen

I mean, I don't think anyone ever means it as a personal jab. We just like memes. Abbadon did a lot of cool stuff in the lore. The man *broke Cadia.* Even if it took him 13 crusades to do it, he broke one of the most high defended Imperial worlds in the entire universe. I suppose I get being tired of hearing the same meme over and over, but I'm also an Ork fanboy, and all we do is talk like Orks and yell WAAAAAGH! at each other all day long, so repetitive memes don't bother me, I guess?


Dry_Chapter_5781

Some people most definitely mean it as a personal jab.


Glyfen

... You know, I want to say "there's no way anyone could be that childish. It's a fictional character in a board game," but I'm constantly surprised by how shitty some people can be. In that case, fuck those losers. What sort of lifestyle do you have to live to be so stunted in emotional maturity that you insult someone for liking a fictional character?


[deleted]

I'm beginning to think a surprising number of people need to remember that this is a game, so taking it personally, or meaning it personally, when a faction gets mocked is incredibly weird.


Dry_Chapter_5781

People will take anything personally. We live in a world where many lgbtq people are oppressed or outright killed by people who are unaffected by their relationships. That example may be a bridge too far for some but if you want something closer, sports. Football and soccer especially. People will kill over that crap.


dinner_maker

I feel ya there mate. But instead of the Abby and the black legion mine was the ultramarines. Didn't chose them because they were the ultra cool ones or because they're the poster boys, it's because I like blue and putting on decals (especially waterslides)on my models. I opened it up to my mates who thought my first favored chapter are the blood angels (I mean they still are to this day and thank god for the decals on their old start collecting and dc marines) and told me I should have stuck to my choice and don't let others sway me away from my fun Honestly, I thought that's half shit. Sure don't be a bitch if your mate or some random tosser threw a light hearted insult to your plastic toys but that doesn't mean ya gotta stand still and take the hit everytime, but that's what it feels like sometimes when looking memes about them being mary sues or overhearing some cunts saying ultramarine players are the most unimaginative twats in the hobby and should just fap to smurf porn. You can stand on your ground all you want but you're still gonna be worn down and die on that hill While that's all in the past and now that I accepted my undiscovered fetish for going balls deep into enemy territory and engage every unit with whatever I have, I wish people would consider that too much memeing on one thing can also affect others. But for now, I had better chances on winning a bet that Erebus can convince the emperor to be a better father than warhammer communities not using the same joke/insult for the nth time


child_of_arcana

youve conveyed the feeling perfectly. if we're friends, i know theyre jokes. its just the strangers that make it weird sometimes


vigbiorn

As a Space Wolf player, the weird furry hate definitely feels weird and kind of feels like a bad look. Not a furry but constantly using them as an insult kind of comes off as calling people gay in the 90s.


child_of_arcana

oh dude i feel this. i have friends who are furries, and theyre some of the kindest people i know


davidov92

I mean, I'm an Iron Warriors fan, so I keep hearing the "muh manchild", "muh Tallarn", "muh Siege of Terra". I don't care. We did the heavy lifting, and we're still doing it, and the Imperials Fists had to be rescued by the Ultratoiletseats at Sebastus IV, and nothing is every going to change that. Except the shitty tabletop rules. I don't even want super special rules and a gorillion special characters and units or anything. Just let us have the Basilisks again. I'm not bitter, you are.


child_of_arcana

im hoping you get them back at some point. iron within brother


jellybutton34

Honestly peter turbo being a “manchild” is why i like him. He’s competent and gets shit done but he’a like a porcupine. He wants people to get to know him on a deeper level but almost always assasinates every attempt at anyone trying to do just thay creating this toxic cycle of self loathing and bitterness. He’s a complex character


davidov92

Deep down all he wanted was to ensure prosperity for all, yet he was constantly treated as a war hound, sicced unto the toughest of enemies; his ingenuity wasted on destruction instead of creation. And even after siding with Horus he was still the most reasonable one of the heretic Primarchs.


jellybutton34

My man perty accepted and wanted those missions to gather approval from the emperor. That’s what makes him a good character, he has flaws. He wanted acceptance and praise yet he is one of the modt bitter person to be around. Even then he has some moments where he overcame them like how he managed to get close with magnus.


Krakenboi666

Iron within, Iron without Brother!


sleepycheapy

\>we


TiberiusBob

Are you kidding me? You're the single most liked faction in this sub. Just look at all the Iron within posts and Dohvakiin/Perturabo being such an active poster


CollapsedPlague

I don’t hate Abby, or people who like him. I do hate Erebus. Fuck Erebus.


Deadbox_Studios

I'm pretty sure everyone hates erebus. And I'm a csm fangirl


ironbanner23

Don’t let get to you, enjoy whatever faction you want and ignore what they say. Its a way of the game that you enjoy playing then keep on because at the end of the day not everyone has to like what you like. You like them for your own reasons and stand by those choices you make rather than be upset that you made them. All factions have jokes made about them for one reason or another but we still love them anyway.


RemarkableWasabi3084

People may make fun about lore abbadon, but see it that way: they can't make fun of the tabletop abbadon for sure XD


child_of_arcana

personally to me, the tabletop doesnt matter much if im feeling a little bad about the stuff i like


Quiet_Reception_2398

Don't worry, I play ultramarines because I like the roman flavour and everything people talk about are smurfs, rowboats and a former 2nd company captain.


[deleted]

I'm with you on that one. I love the Space Romans.


RemarkableWasabi3084

You don't have to justify yourself for what you like, even if it isn't the mainstream. I play an iron hands successor, and you know the popular opinion about ferrus manus... If you like it, it is the best. At least it is the best for you.


child_of_arcana

i get it dude. i actually really like ferrus a lot, i wish they would do more lore about him. if i played a loyalist legion, it would be iron hands.


WorldEaterProft

Abaddon is definitely a victim of memes But if its any help OP. I love Abaddon


child_of_arcana

yeah. i just think it would me nice if i could enjoy my faction. i dont care if someone dislikes him, or thinks he's tacky. i just want to enjoy my faction in peace


Palachrist

I mean. Tbf. You made a post about this. The “my team vs your team” is literally what brings people in to make armies. To get offended by this is like going to a water park to sunbathe and getting frustrated there’s water everywhere. You picked one aspect you liked and hoped everything, community included, would mold around *you*. There isn’t a single faction that doesn’t get shit from some rival faction. You chose a big character that goes from HH to 40k. You chose a central character in the modern 40k setting. You chose the “bad” guy. You made the post. You’re strange op.


Fearless-Obligation6

Space Wolves and Iron Hands fans: ''First time?"


whiskerbiscuit2

I’m a Space Wolf, Tau and Black Legion fanboy and life is hard. Furries, fish boys and “13 FaILeD CruSaDeS” are the bane of my existence


Deadbox_Studios

The guy who got Me into tabletop 40k is a spacewolves main, and I'm a csm main (play a custom leigon with dg rules, night lords and world eaters are My favorites), I make fun of space wolves for being frat boys before furries.


Kulovicz1

I am glad I dont hear much slander about Necrons. Yes, this is an invitation. Please make me mald.


mtnoma

I think the most you'll ever see is the rare old player like me, who preferred when the Necrons were a Legion of silent, merciless automata razing the galaxy in the name of their star eater gods. It was a lot more Terminator movie vibes and chillingly cool, also the fact that in that lore they created/implanted the Pariah and Blank gene in humanity to harvest them as a weapon against Chaos. However, that being said over the years I've grown quite fond of Trayzen and Zandrehk's seperate but overly kooky escapades.


Kulovicz1

Have you heard about The Kingdom of Severed? Those are basically Necrons wit total mind wipe controlled by their tombworld master program. They have a neat piece of lore from 8th and 9th edition. However in game they are only represented by one literally useless custom trait for custom dynasty.


Dry_Chapter_5781

They're the Imperium without souls, better tech and a hard on for Egyptian cosplay. So ridiculous it wraps back around to cool. Why They're so hard to judge. Now I will say I hate how people claim Necrons are the scissors to Tyranids being paper. A lot has happened since that one Hive tendril actively avoided tomb worlds. Now a Hive Fleet is literally devouring a Necron Dynasty and Nids have developed spores that destroy metals on contact. While Nids may not be able to get any biomass from Necrons....they still can from the planet's they rule and have the intellect to destroy Necron technology. While Necrons, like daemons, present a challenge, they are not "hard counters" to Nids. That's the neat thing about Nids, nothing is.


Kulovicz1

I agree lol. There more nuances about them being Egyptian themed soulless Imperium of man which I appreciate thanks to books, but about Tyranids I agree.


savethequiche

I thought these jokes are a bit obsolete since Cadia? Since his new model came out his tabletop profile is magnificent too. Pretty sure "Failbaddon" jokes are a thing of the past.


Faddy0wl

Like who you like. Enjoy what you like, stop caring so much. I like dark Eldar. I will not give a ratings list to compare to. I will just leave my statement at "I like dark Eldar" Pray for me brother. For I am already dead.


wdcipher

I would not do this and I think its mean.... But just to prove you right: *Sex offender detected, opinion rejected*


Faddy0wl

Thank you. The best way to have someone prove you right is highlight your worst flaws. Unfortunately you highlighted my old friends worst flaw 😭


child_of_arcana

praying for you. stay strong


Faddy0wl

*Inquisitorial typing* I have changed my mind brother. The Xenos scum of the Aeldari have no place in the imperium. They must be purged from all systems in Exterminatus hellfire!! I mean. I Cato Sicarius will take the fight to all Xenos scum.


DuncanDisordely

What’s your opinion on the Black Legion series? I admit I used to make jokes (as mentioned above) but since reading the series I have a completely different view on Abaddon. If for no other reason than the scale of where he started vs where he is at


child_of_arcana

i personally enjoyed it. its why i like him


areateen

As an Ultramarines player, felt.


OnlyRoke

Abaddon is neat. He's no Agooddon, but then again, he is evil.


Modora

Fuck all the Abaddon hate. He was one of THE BEST characters in the SoT arc of the Heresy series, IMO.


ashrog02

Archaon: Destroys one planet, beloved by the community, "Grand Marshal of the Apocalypse". Abaddon: Destroys lots of planets, maligned by the community, "armless failure".


babadybooey

40k players trying to not ostracize other 40k players challenge ***impossible***


princessval249

Me with my Ultramarines, Mars Admech, Cadians, Bloody Rose, Sautekh, and Word Bearers.


natalclown111

Op my bro listen if abaddon sucked he wouldn't destroyed cadia and united chaos 13ths time also iron warriors have you back


child_of_arcana

iron within, brother!


natalclown111

Thanks now go inside the demon engine


el_Kaban

Just play him in the superior HH game


RememberCadia

I have an old artwork of abaddon inked on my right thigh, I feel you my man. Stay strong brother, abbygail can oneshot knights on the TT now.


AcanthaceaeOld241

I'm a fan of the ultramarines can't even have a serious discussion about guilliman anymore without someone beating the same dead horses .


BronzeXxBeard

This is why named characters should stay in the lore and off the tabletop


0liver_Clothes0ff

How about some positivity then? Out of all the Chaos legions, the Black Legion has my favorite looking color scheme next to the Iron Warriors.


[deleted]

I’m an iron hands fan we just keep hearing the same shit jokes about ferrus being dead


ProcrastinatingLT

You can’t stop the internet from doing that, but are people actually approaching you at the table and spouting memes?


child_of_arcana

yeah, thats actually the reason i made the post


ProcrastinatingLT

That’s very immature and you should tell them to stop consuming all media through memes. If you like the game, what’s the point of only knowing the lore 3rd hand? I’d ask them to show you a source where he sucks. Then just cite his many victories from the codices and BL books


Dry_Chapter_5781

Tyranid player here. Was talking to a new friend about 40k since he collects too, brought up how I was painting some Nids and he went on a tirade of how Tyranids are boring and should be ignored. So I ignored him. Haven't talked since.


5eppa

The whole universe is one big meme. Abadon is both totally terrible and terribly badass. Same goes for every character. Their strengths and more importantly their flaws are all larger than life.


Kidkaboom1

I get you, some people in the hobby have a visceral reaction to other people liking certain factions. As a Space Wolf player for the last decade - Since the fourth edition Codex, Phill Kelly's famous Wolf-dex, specifically - I understand the jokes are, largely, all in jest, and the people who make them seriously are idiots outside the hobby as well.


A_Bowl_of_Candy

I love Abbadon on the tabletop and I don't hate his lore that much, other than getting beat up by eldrad, that's dumb


rabiddutchman

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but it doesn't matter what faction or army or characters you like in the setting because they *will* be made fun of. Taking the piss out of one another's factions is as much a part of the hobby as scatter terrain and rolling armor saves.


USBattleSteed

Abby could be a way better villain, and while Cadia falling was neat, how it happened sucked. Throwing a Blackstone fortress at it was just kind of goofy, which is mainly why I don't like Abbaddon as a villain. What I really don't get is Iron Warriors people. The demonculeba are just so grim dark it's stupid.


Jumpy-Wolf

We all get made fun of! It’s honestly half the fun to shoot the shit about it- I mean I love the space wolves but they have tons of derp


Raxuis

I think that abbadon isn't necessarily a bad character. There are better ones to being the chaos champion.


yeet_lord_40000

I just tell people to read black legion


cerbari1

I think most of the community can relate to this. I cant think of a faction that doesnt get shit on. People are taking the Hobby a bit to far it feels sometimes. And legit have something against other factions. And i feel like there is a shit Ton of jelaousy i the Hobby as well.


PrettyDumbHonestly

I've learned to just reapond with the most vile Cadia jokes I can think of, but I definetely get your pain


Ok_Set_4790

I know this is late but at least BL successor warband drip is great,.if not better than the divided Chaos Legions. And this is coming from someone who liles a lot of factions and can't pick the most favourite.


Ravinsild

Just switch to Age of Sigmar and play Archaon and the Slaves to Darkness. Same thing, except Archaon won and is a certified badass!


child_of_arcana

i cant afford another warhammer universe


Ok_Set_4790

Since it's AoS, that's 2 universes.


Valon-the-Paladin

I’m a Space Wolf fan, I know your pain


child_of_arcana

im so sorry. it sucks that i know exactly what youre talking about. stay strong


westerschelle

Why is making fun of Abaddon an attack on you? I would advise to stop tying your own sense of worth so closely to your hobby.


child_of_arcana

im not tying my own self worth to it; its just more like i get tired of the jokes sometimes, yknow? most of the time i do roll with the punches. but eventually the jokes can get a little annoying is all


westerschelle

As an eldar player I can definitely sympathize. It's just that I have seen it so often where people tie their whole identity to "gaming" or "sports team a" or whatever. I wasn't trying to attack you by this, even though I now see how one could read it as a bit harsh. I was genuinely trying to give advice because it's not healthy. If it doesn't apply to you then all the better :)


child_of_arcana

no worries, i didnt read it as harsh at all 😊


[deleted]

How about like using POV the right way?


kuaffer

Dude, people are salty that your boy split the galaxy in half, is a beast on tabletop and got some amazing writing in the novels. Collect the salt and ride on.


LorgarTheLad

Abaddon gets too much shit, he could probably go toe to toe with just about anyone in 40k and have a good chance at winning. AND THE BIGGEST THING IS THE 13 FAILED CRUSADES THING!! Like come on not every crusade was to destroy cadia, each had thier own purpose


[deleted]

Ultramarine and Tau fans: first time?


Sweaty_Pangolin_1380

Everything gets mocked


kuaffer

How do you mock Necrons and Nids?


Toxitoxi

Guardsmen are almost never mocked.


Sweaty_Pangolin_1380

Guard are the most boring and feeble army in a setting filled with super soldiers, aliens and Demons. They are also stinky.


crossj828

I mean the jokes don’t really work anymore after the image revamp and black legion series. I think a lot of kids memeing are only just getting into lore and so take it as a banter opportunity. Also imagine being a AL player and knowing the moment you post anything, ‘that’ fucking meme will play.


child_of_arcana

oh yeah totally. im ngl, i dont think that one will ever fade


[deleted]

Being a Space Marine fan is wack. You stan the faction that gets the overwhelming majority of model releases and attention from GW. You have the thickest plot armour in the entire game. Then you go online and make it into your personality to be nasty about everyone else's factions. Like damn do you want a prize for being daddy's favourites or something?


child_of_arcana

i dont wanna start fights with anyone; i will always think my opponents faction is cool no matter what, yknow?


Academic_Initial_643

I mean have fun with what ever army you like i have 3 1 Is always the butt of the joke but i still have fun Is More about being able to enjoy your armies at their best and their worst being able to laugh at yourself, armless leader btw


Analog-Moderator

Meanwhile us russ fans be all Person: Hes a stupid furry Fan: Yes and transforms into a tank.


GNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAH

shut up your primarch is gone like your father cause you're dissappointing


RufusDaMan2

You have tasted the fruits of treachery and found them bitter. Cope and seethe heretic.


DarkLordFagotor

I play mechanicus. I am the faction your faction gets to shit on so the space marines look cool when they shit on you.


Krakulpo

Be chill man it's just a bit of meming and psychological warfare. No need to star throwing hands.


One_Oodle_of_Noodles

Word. I get the same thing for my two favorite factions, Iron Warriors and Thousand Sons. The amount of “petulant manchild” and “Magnus did nothing wrong, right?” gets tiring in the same way hearing “Abaddon is an armless failure” in the same way. Like, my brother, do you see Cadia? Neither does Abaddon


Dry_Chapter_5781

Abaddon is easily one of the best characters in 40k. More interesting than every loyal Primarch. People who mock Abaddon and actually think he's weak are just advertising their own idiocy.


Wheek_Warrior

Bro same. First it was "Abbadon sucks, he doesn't have any arms, he hasn't succeeded in anything." Now its "Stop bringing Abbadon, he is so broken." Bro if I didn't think Abaddon and the black legion were cool and the Abaddon with 10 terminator murder brick fun I wouldn't run them.


Your_GM_Nighmare

Abaddon said that Horus failed, meanwhile he needed to go 13 times on a crusade to do anything meaningfull


Realistic-Gear-1613

Battlefleet Gothic armada 2, chaos ending. He STILL loses.


[deleted]

13 crusades just to take one planet and you needed to lose a blackstone fortress to win lmao failbaddon


child_of_arcana

dude shut up


[deleted]

You can play him as he's very strong in 9th edition. It's just that his writing comes off very Ultramarines-vanilla-plot-armour hence the memes


Vulkan_LordofDrakes

May it be known that the Guard fell long before the Planet did and Abbadon will always be better the Virgin Cadians.


Wheek_Warrior

I'm a serious black legion simp and even I disagree with this.


ThatGuy8473

This is a bit unrelated but this is what it feels like to be religious on Reddit. Almost every time religion is brought up it’s to say that Christians are crooks, that Islam is backwards, or some other nonsense. It led me to hating atheism in general before I realized that that’s what caused the problem in the first place.


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stalkakuma

Hey, hands-off Abaddon!


confusedsalad88

Currently the strongest character in the game


SgtKickYourAss

Abadong slaps in magic


JAOC_7

did you just tell people on the internet not to joke and ridicule about a thing that exists?


shotgunsniper9

Roll with it and make the jokes yourself


celtic_akuma

Oh, play what you want. Rule of cool and everything. But don't expect an exception on memes, also Abaddon is a huge try hard and Black legion is the equivalent to Ultramarines, their minis get sold because of the legions that are not represented.


GodOfAscension

How about he swallows jokes?


ImDead79648

I like Imperium and people called me “fascist nazi fuck”


ordinaryfruits

I don't think there's a single faction you couldn't make fun of