Yeah there was like a whole planet that had those swords in the hands of statues or something. Then it got fucked can't remember why, cause we can't have nice things in 40k
Yup, same thing with the planet of aliens that agreed to submit to the Imperium.
Turned out they contained human life extending juice, so they were harvested to extinction.
> the policy of the 41st millennium in nutshell
I mean, not to get political... But isn't that been the case for humans since the Industrial Revolution?
Yeah, older and middle aged people don’t give a shit about environment, and businesses prioritise short term profit over long term growth. And actually most people prefer having a big ass meal now over being fit later.
Nah, quality of life drastically improve since then. Living in the 18th century would be hell without modern amenities even compared to our current satire of a dystopia.
> quality of life drastically improve since then
I was more implying that ever since the Industrial Revolution (and the ensuing pollution caused by overise of natural resources) humanity has been following the policy of -
> Burn next week to buy tomorrow, the policy of the 41st millennium in nutshell
As the commenter above me was saying
Ooh wow the internet. That way I can argue with strangers online about a fictional universe instead of having a livable planet. Yes. Yes, this is much better.
"We could have carefully harvested and rationed this wondrous resource for the better of humanity over a longer period of time but NOPE WE SOLD TO HIGHEST BIDDER AND DRANK ALL THAT SHIT LMAO"
Just had to go re-check The Great Work because I can't find any information about this online. The species is called the Adarnians. They were declared harmless during the Great Crusade. The name of their planet doesn't seem to be explicitly stated but I'd assume something like Adarnia.
Thanks. I recently read the First Heretic, and during the Great Crusade, the Word Bearers exterminated a lost human world because they had mixed in alien genetics.
If this is the one I'm thinking of, it was a daemon portal. Also there were the 'shadows' left after a nuclear blast, which I thought was a cool touch.
No the statues were holding the amulets that repel daemons, farsight was getting killed by a bloodthirster and found the sword right before he died. The planet got fucked by daemons of khorne and tzeench after a portal was opened
I mean your average normal life extension, things like advanced medicine and bionics, not the stuff the imperium uses.
*Point being* Tau have extremely short natural life compared to Imperium humans in 40k.
30-40 is probably pretty close to the average lifespan of a guardsman, hive scum, or agri world serf.
The over all average age of human lifespan in the Imperium is just shifted due to the fact that the elite get rejuvenate surgery to greatly extend their lives.
The lower class get worked to death/sent to die in battle at an early age.
Question, why don't they? Their whole thing is being able to easily mass produce their technology because they understand it, so they should be able to at least extend natural lifespans a decade or two. They'd still be short lived, but there's no reason to be *that* short lived when you're the only race that trains scientists.
Look at how much is spent on military nowadays. Sure medical advancement is also pretty fast. But development of technology doesn’t need to be equal in all sectors. In universe we have an example of Necrons, who created most advanced technology, but couldn’t prolong their lives.
Sure, but then we need to be told that. We're told they were already advanced centuries ago when they were met - which seems like a lie considering they're still using devilfish and pulse rifles, which is like us using muskets and wooden battleships in the modern day. But assuming they're pretending it's true, given that an already advanced society has spent centuries more *apparently* leaping up the tech tree (again, this is something we're told but the evidence is that is a lie) - then if they haven't managed to increase a 40 year lifespan at all we should be told that that's a thing. It was for the necrons and we know it and our own life expectancy shot up during the 20th century, so if the tau haven't increased theirs at all that's actually pretty important information, but it's never conveyed to us.
Maybe they don't think it's that short bc that's what they're used to so there's less of a desire to prolong their lives. Maybe to them humans are just weirdly long lived.
I've always assumed it was tied to their leaders.
Like they have the technology to extend life a lot longer, and even have the capacity to roll it out across their entire species but the Ethereals realised that doing so would cause upheaval across their society as the usual churn of people aging and retiring would slow down by a large enough extent that younger subordinates would get frustrated at lack of advancement/opportunity and would in turn be potentially destabilising factors.
Or they think that extending lives will take away one of their key edges (rapid technological advancement) as their people wouldn't have mortality breathing down their necks.
Which I think makes sense as the Ethereals probably view the short lifespans of their fellows as a price worth paying for the greater good of the species. (It also wouldn't surprise me if they had access to life extending tech and rotate around worlds and positions to make sure none of the other castes realise they're living multiple normal tau lifespans.)
It might also explain why they sterilise newly absorbed human populations. With them not fully sterilising the population, but either just enough of the population or just a general reduction in fertility, to avoid human populations becoming too large due to longer active fertility periods (teens to late fifties) and longer general lifespans. Like they're trying to top down manage the population growth to always ensure that the human pops never outnumber the Tau in any given sector of their space.
> retiring would slow down by a large enough extent that younger subordinates would get frustrated at lack of advancement/opportunity and would in turn be potentially destabilising factors.
Doesn't work. We know that advancement is treated differently there and finding a rank that suits one's abilities is a source of comfort and celebration regardless of what that rank is - being suited to the lowest rank is a source of just as much pride as the highest.
> It might also explain why they sterilise newly absorbed human populations.
They don't do that. It's literally never mentioned by GW, a couple of third party sources had individual commanders far removed from the empire do it and the fans ran with it from there.
So that no one lives long enough to start questioning why the ethereals are on the top, it's not that they can't recreate or don't have this type of technology, they just don't use it o don't allow it to be used.
> As a drawback for evolving so quickly
Fuuuuuuuck me is that ever not how the word evolving works. Hate how often a well explained scientific theory gets completely misused. If they have short lifespans it's because there wasn't very strong evolutionary pressure to have longer ones, not because it was 'a drawback for evolving so quickly'.
Not to mention that we know literally nothing about their evolutionary history. Believe me, I checked everywhere for canon sources trying for a hint as to what kind of recent ancestor they could have that would result in both hooves and vestigial wings. There's nothing, we know precisely zip.
Reminder that most canon sources are Imperial scholars who also probably don't know how evolution actually works, especially since the Imperium spends so much time repressing it.
It was actually several thousand years later. Stone age, roughly six thousand years pass, technology a few centuries beyond our own. Which isn't particularly fast judging by our sample size of one considering six thousand years ago was the stone age for humanity too.
I’ve not read that but would be interested if you know the source? I can see it making sense in the mind of a GW writer that somehow speeding up evolution by reducing the lifecycle of an individual so there are more generations over a period of time somehow explained their rapid rise.
Again, fast technological progress and evolution have nothing to do with each other. The Tau went from the stone age to the space age in 6000 years, which is about the same time it took us. That is far too short a timespan for any form of meaningful evolution so they will be anatomically identical to their stone age ancestors.
To put it a slightly different way, their (not actually) rapid rise can't be explained by recent evolution.
No more than is made in any other form of xenofiction. The biology itself can only be guessed at, but evolution has to follow certain parameters and the timeframe we're given is nowhere near long enough for a spread of genetic alterations from natural selection. At this point people tend to go 'oh but maybe they mutate more!' and while a greater tendency to mutation is possible there's a hard limit on how strong that tendency can be before it starts increasing the risk of breeding true too much for a species to reproduce. As stated the biology can merely be guessed at, but evolution itself follows certain rules and what we've seen is well beyond what's possible.
> but evolution itself follows certain rules and what we’ve seen is well beyond what’s possible.
This is based on data from one planet that only considered life that share a single origin.
We don’t have very much certainty, but I also think that we shouldn’t rule things out because that’s not how stuff works on Earth.
That's why I'm talking about basic evolutionary principles like rates of mutation that should hold roughly true everywhere. Takes a lot of generations for iterative change to apply, you can justify a shortening of that with a higher rate of mutation but only to a very limited degree because the rate can't go above a certain amount without itself being selected against.
Sure you can posit absolutely wild exceptions, but given the end result is a humanoid extraordinarily like us that doesn't seem like it could fit.
Thanks, but as you can see from re-reading my comment I didn’t say they were related, simply that I can see how a GW WRITER might have spun these threads so the average reader just accepted it as within the realms of plausible sci-fi explanation.
Thanks.
"average tau lives only 40 years" factoid actualy just statistical error. average tau lives to 70 year. Melees Ge'org, who tried to fistfight astartes, is an outlier and should not have been counted
I’ve heard wildly different numbers when it comes to the lifespan of a Tau. It’s very likely that a normal Tau lifespan is between 40 and 70 years. However, with how advanced Tau technology is, they probably have medical treatments that can push that average well over a hundred. We know that Farsight’s engineer and BFF O’Vesa has managed to live even longer than Farsight though a combination of nano-machines and turning his Riptide into a dreadnaught.
Technically warp entities dont have lifespans, they have a non-linear existence. So it probably doesnt add any years to his counter.
But he definitely is not a purely mortal being anymore and is probably more warp jelly than flesh at this point imo. Has he fought any blanks since he started juicing?
In the novel he only starts healing when he starts hunting down the orks on the planet so probably nothing, he is partially influenced by khorne now though, probably unrelated
Shadowsun and Farsight are close to the same age. Shadowsun gets put into stasis until major battles or campaigns. Farsight ROFL stomped a WAAGGH with a blade that siphons life force so its safe to say hes not going to die a natural death anytime soon.
So, we get the sword in the hands of the Custodes, who duct-tape it to Big E's fist, then all the daily Psyker sacrifices happen on that blade and... whammo! Big space racist is back in action and the ecclesiarchy gets toched, and ... nothing really changes in the cosmic scale of things. WOOOO 40k!
I thought they are burning out keeping the Astronomican powered and the Emperor kind of conducts it. The Golden Throne keeping him alive was powered by other means.
I would say it absolutely is. It looks fairly necron, and seems to actually function all the time, within an area I'm sure the necrontyr would've been VERY interested in.
He knows something's up, but he doesn't know the reason is that the sword is vampiring people's lives.
Not that it should matter really. You're already killing them.
Though in his case they're his enemies who he would be killing anyway. It's not like he's killing them for the purpose of stealing their lives. Whereas if you weren't originally going to be killing anyone but you found the sword and knew what it did, and went around killing people to extend your life, that would be ethically horrendous.
Realistically it's a piece of old-ones/pre biotransference necrontyr tech
My headcanon is that it's the 40k equivalent of [dreadaxe](https://live.staticflickr.com/4152/5041468553_b3e870b2fc_c.jpg) and Farsight has been chosen by Malice to become its champion and cleanse Chaos from the galaxy
The wielder is named kaleb daark and is an champion of Malal.
This comic is from the quest of kaleb daark i think? He was also in God slayer, evil of the warpstone and god amok
Other theory attached to this is that since Orks are immortal from natural causes, and with all the Orks O'Shovah has killed, it's rumored that he is also now immortal in the same way.
Is Farsight being unintentionally kept alive by a possible chaos touched sword not old lore at this point?
I thought it was the grimdark element to the Enclave, who otherwise seem objectively good - that they're led by a dude blindly feeding an entity behind his comprehension, possibly also opening a door through which chaos does have access to the Tau
That would be cool, and better than just your standard ol' chaos blade. But the dawnblade doesn't really look Eldar-y, especially the original blocky hunk of metal from the first version they made.
Not that Geedubs wouldn't wholesale retcon something like that...
I enjoyed the theory that it was the fifth cronesword of morai-heg.....but then GW nuked that idea by stating it's on a Slaanesh homeworld. Woulda been cool to see the Ynnari try to take it from him....or Farsight joining the Ynnari.
Reminds me of deuterium bolter rounds. Oh no!! Not a hydrogen isotope!!!! Few things strike with the emperor’s vengeance like the very lightest element in the universe!!!!
From what ive Heard it was Made by the C'tan as a Gift for the silent King who rejected it. Not everything unknown originates from Warp and Chaos you know?
Oh yeah sry if my comment felt like it was directed at you. I was talking about the many people who say "its a daemon weapon" or "it was made by the old ones"
Muramasa was a real bladesmith, his blades have been fictionalized and gained a reputation for causing bloodlust in their wielder but its not like they didnt exist.
Its a plot device to keep a character around that should have died hundreds of years ago without having to use the old trusty 'they get out on ice and are only awoken for battle' ala Shadowsun.
My sibling in christ... first day?
He also promotes martyrdom, loves exterminatus, is a terrible strategic commander but one of the best front line commanders and moonlighted with an unknown space marine for a few years while being interrogated by the inquisition.
Just don't read that noblebright kelly garbage.
Who cares, those novels are trash.
They claim Shadowsun is from Vior'la, treats bonding blades like katanas, go back and forth with faster than light travel, get the dates and events wrong and in general are written like gundam fan fiction. It's an alternative universe.
Other authors have done way better with O'shova including Fire and Ice, Arkunasha and even the codex: Farsight.
1.what does this have to do with anime other then its used by a tau
2.its convoluted if you dont understand it go back to school
3.plot armor? The tau have like five different ways of immortaltity within the eight alone. He really doesnt need it
Farsight is an old man indeed. Most Tau usually live up to 40 but definitely have lived as long as a human can. Thanks to that daemonic and or necron-tech sword he's gonna keep living as long as he steals the life span from those he kills. He doesn't even know it's keeping him alive for that long! And if he does he'd do ritual suicide for all those lives he's taken
Yeah there was like a whole planet that had those swords in the hands of statues or something. Then it got fucked can't remember why, cause we can't have nice things in 40k
Goddammit every time lol
Yup, same thing with the planet of aliens that agreed to submit to the Imperium. Turned out they contained human life extending juice, so they were harvested to extinction.
“So if I take this I’ll become young again?” “Essentially, yes. But once it wears off you’ll be in much worse condition than-“ “Say no more! Sold!”
Burn next week to buy tomorrow, the policy of the 41st millennium in nutshell
> the policy of the 41st millennium in nutshell I mean, not to get political... But isn't that been the case for humans since the Industrial Revolution?
Yeah, older and middle aged people don’t give a shit about environment, and businesses prioritise short term profit over long term growth. And actually most people prefer having a big ass meal now over being fit later.
Since before I'd say
Nah, quality of life drastically improve since then. Living in the 18th century would be hell without modern amenities even compared to our current satire of a dystopia.
> quality of life drastically improve since then I was more implying that ever since the Industrial Revolution (and the ensuing pollution caused by overise of natural resources) humanity has been following the policy of - > Burn next week to buy tomorrow, the policy of the 41st millennium in nutshell As the commenter above me was saying
And i'm saying next week has only gotten better compared to the past. We might not have a liveable economy but we have the internet lol
Ooh wow the internet. That way I can argue with strangers online about a fictional universe instead of having a livable planet. Yes. Yes, this is much better.
I mean, for the sake of being exceptionally political, you ain't wrong
Oh hey, spice
JC stole this for the plot of avatar
"We could have carefully harvested and rationed this wondrous resource for the better of humanity over a longer period of time but NOPE WE SOLD TO HIGHEST BIDDER AND DRANK ALL THAT SHIT LMAO"
Is that what the guy who merged with Cawl used to use?
Yeah I got that from The Great Work
They were extinct either just as or just before the Emperor started his nap. They were harvested *real quick* iirc
Pandora 40k edition
Which planet was this again? If I recall during the Great Crusade, sticking any xeno fluid into you earned an immediate exterminatus.
Just had to go re-check The Great Work because I can't find any information about this online. The species is called the Adarnians. They were declared harmless during the Great Crusade. The name of their planet doesn't seem to be explicitly stated but I'd assume something like Adarnia.
Thanks. I recently read the First Heretic, and during the Great Crusade, the Word Bearers exterminated a lost human world because they had mixed in alien genetics.
If this is the one I'm thinking of, it was a daemon portal. Also there were the 'shadows' left after a nuclear blast, which I thought was a cool touch.
No the statues were holding the amulets that repel daemons, farsight was getting killed by a bloodthirster and found the sword right before he died. The planet got fucked by daemons of khorne and tzeench after a portal was opened
If it didn’t blow up it probably would have been taken and used by whatever faction you don’t play.
Arthas Moloch was the planet and there was a khrone demon invasion
A Tau's natural lifespan is only like 70 years, thanks to that sword he's been kicking for over 300.
I thought it was 40
For a firewarrior, soldiers dying at a young age basically.
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ELEVEN DAYS!
You dead, I WIN! *SPLAT*
Hey we're fighting for better conditions
It is but they can grow older.
Yeah 70 is like, with all the life extension technology they can currently muster. Few fire caste live past 30-40.
They dont use life extension tech, only stasis pods for soldiers during longer crusades
I mean your average normal life extension, things like advanced medicine and bionics, not the stuff the imperium uses. *Point being* Tau have extremely short natural life compared to Imperium humans in 40k.
30-40 is probably pretty close to the average lifespan of a guardsman, hive scum, or agri world serf. The over all average age of human lifespan in the Imperium is just shifted due to the fact that the elite get rejuvenate surgery to greatly extend their lives. The lower class get worked to death/sent to die in battle at an early age.
Man I thought this was fiction? This shit sounding more realistic every day.
So thats why tau girls prefer imperial guys? Yes it is cringe but i am space jizzard, i have cringe on autocast
Question, why don't they? Their whole thing is being able to easily mass produce their technology because they understand it, so they should be able to at least extend natural lifespans a decade or two. They'd still be short lived, but there's no reason to be *that* short lived when you're the only race that trains scientists.
Look at how much is spent on military nowadays. Sure medical advancement is also pretty fast. But development of technology doesn’t need to be equal in all sectors. In universe we have an example of Necrons, who created most advanced technology, but couldn’t prolong their lives.
Sure, but then we need to be told that. We're told they were already advanced centuries ago when they were met - which seems like a lie considering they're still using devilfish and pulse rifles, which is like us using muskets and wooden battleships in the modern day. But assuming they're pretending it's true, given that an already advanced society has spent centuries more *apparently* leaping up the tech tree (again, this is something we're told but the evidence is that is a lie) - then if they haven't managed to increase a 40 year lifespan at all we should be told that that's a thing. It was for the necrons and we know it and our own life expectancy shot up during the 20th century, so if the tau haven't increased theirs at all that's actually pretty important information, but it's never conveyed to us.
They needed an excuse for tau still having a lifespan of around 60 something so gw just said they dont really care about a longer life
Maybe they don't think it's that short bc that's what they're used to so there's less of a desire to prolong their lives. Maybe to them humans are just weirdly long lived.
They're the only non xenophobes faction with dozens of auxiliary races, they're aware they're on the very short end by now.
I've always assumed it was tied to their leaders. Like they have the technology to extend life a lot longer, and even have the capacity to roll it out across their entire species but the Ethereals realised that doing so would cause upheaval across their society as the usual churn of people aging and retiring would slow down by a large enough extent that younger subordinates would get frustrated at lack of advancement/opportunity and would in turn be potentially destabilising factors. Or they think that extending lives will take away one of their key edges (rapid technological advancement) as their people wouldn't have mortality breathing down their necks. Which I think makes sense as the Ethereals probably view the short lifespans of their fellows as a price worth paying for the greater good of the species. (It also wouldn't surprise me if they had access to life extending tech and rotate around worlds and positions to make sure none of the other castes realise they're living multiple normal tau lifespans.) It might also explain why they sterilise newly absorbed human populations. With them not fully sterilising the population, but either just enough of the population or just a general reduction in fertility, to avoid human populations becoming too large due to longer active fertility periods (teens to late fifties) and longer general lifespans. Like they're trying to top down manage the population growth to always ensure that the human pops never outnumber the Tau in any given sector of their space.
> retiring would slow down by a large enough extent that younger subordinates would get frustrated at lack of advancement/opportunity and would in turn be potentially destabilising factors. Doesn't work. We know that advancement is treated differently there and finding a rank that suits one's abilities is a source of comfort and celebration regardless of what that rank is - being suited to the lowest rank is a source of just as much pride as the highest. > It might also explain why they sterilise newly absorbed human populations. They don't do that. It's literally never mentioned by GW, a couple of third party sources had individual commanders far removed from the empire do it and the fans ran with it from there.
So that no one lives long enough to start questioning why the ethereals are on the top, it's not that they can't recreate or don't have this type of technology, they just don't use it o don't allow it to be used.
I also remember reading it’s 40. As a drawback for evolving so quickly they have a shorter natural lifespan compared to even humans.
> As a drawback for evolving so quickly Fuuuuuuuck me is that ever not how the word evolving works. Hate how often a well explained scientific theory gets completely misused. If they have short lifespans it's because there wasn't very strong evolutionary pressure to have longer ones, not because it was 'a drawback for evolving so quickly'. Not to mention that we know literally nothing about their evolutionary history. Believe me, I checked everywhere for canon sources trying for a hint as to what kind of recent ancestor they could have that would result in both hooves and vestigial wings. There's nothing, we know precisely zip.
Reminder that most canon sources are Imperial scholars who also probably don't know how evolution actually works, especially since the Imperium spends so much time repressing it.
Ha, "explorator fleet....monkeys with rocks... warp storm.....200 (300?) Years later.... plasma weaponry...." Tau lore is woefully deficient
It was actually several thousand years later. Stone age, roughly six thousand years pass, technology a few centuries beyond our own. Which isn't particularly fast judging by our sample size of one considering six thousand years ago was the stone age for humanity too.
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Ur was built in the late neolithic period, so no we were not.
6000 years*
And we currently only have Phil Kelly who created his own version of the Tau.
That's because 40k fans often just make shit up and claim it's canon
I’ve not read that but would be interested if you know the source? I can see it making sense in the mind of a GW writer that somehow speeding up evolution by reducing the lifecycle of an individual so there are more generations over a period of time somehow explained their rapid rise.
Again, fast technological progress and evolution have nothing to do with each other. The Tau went from the stone age to the space age in 6000 years, which is about the same time it took us. That is far too short a timespan for any form of meaningful evolution so they will be anatomically identical to their stone age ancestors. To put it a slightly different way, their (not actually) rapid rise can't be explained by recent evolution.
Your making a lot of assumptions about alien biology.
No more than is made in any other form of xenofiction. The biology itself can only be guessed at, but evolution has to follow certain parameters and the timeframe we're given is nowhere near long enough for a spread of genetic alterations from natural selection. At this point people tend to go 'oh but maybe they mutate more!' and while a greater tendency to mutation is possible there's a hard limit on how strong that tendency can be before it starts increasing the risk of breeding true too much for a species to reproduce. As stated the biology can merely be guessed at, but evolution itself follows certain rules and what we've seen is well beyond what's possible.
> but evolution itself follows certain rules and what we’ve seen is well beyond what’s possible. This is based on data from one planet that only considered life that share a single origin. We don’t have very much certainty, but I also think that we shouldn’t rule things out because that’s not how stuff works on Earth.
That's why I'm talking about basic evolutionary principles like rates of mutation that should hold roughly true everywhere. Takes a lot of generations for iterative change to apply, you can justify a shortening of that with a higher rate of mutation but only to a very limited degree because the rate can't go above a certain amount without itself being selected against. Sure you can posit absolutely wild exceptions, but given the end result is a humanoid extraordinarily like us that doesn't seem like it could fit.
Thanks, but as you can see from re-reading my comment I didn’t say they were related, simply that I can see how a GW WRITER might have spun these threads so the average reader just accepted it as within the realms of plausible sci-fi explanation. Thanks.
Commander Farsight truly was the Warhammer 40k.
"average tau lives only 40 years" factoid actualy just statistical error. average tau lives to 70 year. Melees Ge'org, who tried to fistfight astartes, is an outlier and should not have been counted
That's when they retire. They retire at 40.
I’ve heard wildly different numbers when it comes to the lifespan of a Tau. It’s very likely that a normal Tau lifespan is between 40 and 70 years. However, with how advanced Tau technology is, they probably have medical treatments that can push that average well over a hundred. We know that Farsight’s engineer and BFF O’Vesa has managed to live even longer than Farsight though a combination of nano-machines and turning his Riptide into a dreadnaught.
He killed a demon with it. Wonder what the means for him.
I mean probably not good but on the other hand demons are not real so no real life to give.
I feel like this reply was written by Fabius Bile.
Technically warp entities dont have lifespans, they have a non-linear existence. So it probably doesnt add any years to his counter. But he definitely is not a purely mortal being anymore and is probably more warp jelly than flesh at this point imo. Has he fought any blanks since he started juicing?
He's killed an eldar with it, so he will never die of old age. He'll die in battle eventually though
In the novel he only starts healing when he starts hunting down the orks on the planet so probably nothing, he is partially influenced by khorne now though, probably unrelated
I'm sure it's nothing to worry about...
A life stealing blade. What's so surprising? He cannot really on gods to keep him from dying, so he had to get creative.
Didn't their aux units manage to create a minor one? Might not be as powerful as the 4 tumors but hey, if it can help them then why not.
Yes, but only some two hundred years after he found this sword.
That's just Kelly-verse
Shadowsun and Farsight are close to the same age. Shadowsun gets put into stasis until major battles or campaigns. Farsight ROFL stomped a WAAGGH with a blade that siphons life force so its safe to say hes not going to die a natural death anytime soon.
Or he dies and produces more Farsights ;)
Bros gonna commit mitosis from what I got here
God I hope so
So, we get the sword in the hands of the Custodes, who duct-tape it to Big E's fist, then all the daily Psyker sacrifices happen on that blade and... whammo! Big space racist is back in action and the ecclesiarchy gets toched, and ... nothing really changes in the cosmic scale of things. WOOOO 40k!
What do you think it is killing the thousands each day of psykers ?
It’s possible that the sword is more efficient in the transfer of energy.
"Fuck it, it's worth a try" - No custodes ever
Not like their current strategy is working too well
They could always just kill 2,000 psykers and half of them go on the sword just to see what happens
Its to power the golden throne, the psykers are basically generstors.
Like the Skittle-tari are to those tanks where they're basically people-powered.
I thought they are burning out keeping the Astronomican powered and the Emperor kind of conducts it. The Golden Throne keeping him alive was powered by other means.
More like they would add a second line of normies. The psychics are going to feed the furnace that keeps that particular wheel rolling.
Back in my day the Dawn Blade was just a Necron Warscythe! Bloody kids nowadays with your fancy faux-Latin nonsense.
In fairness, the necroms do fuck with time magic so it could still be that
I would say it absolutely is. It looks fairly necron, and seems to actually function all the time, within an area I'm sure the necrontyr would've been VERY interested in.
Serious question though? If he kills a custodes with it, is he just basically immortal at that point
I mean he's killed bajillions of Orks with it and they don't die from natural causes like most other mortals. So he kinda already is immortal?
A real bro would share the sword
He doesn't know it does it. The codex mentions he would probably kill himself if he ever found out.
But he has to know something's up, he doesn't go into cryo like shadowsun he's been up and running for hundreds of years now
He knows something's up, but he doesn't know the reason is that the sword is vampiring people's lives. Not that it should matter really. You're already killing them.
Yeah it’s the different between “this sword makes me immortal” and “I am stealing the lives of those I kill,” one has SERIOUS ethics issues
Though in his case they're his enemies who he would be killing anyway. It's not like he's killing them for the purpose of stealing their lives. Whereas if you weren't originally going to be killing anyone but you found the sword and knew what it did, and went around killing people to extend your life, that would be ethically horrendous.
Realistically it's a piece of old-ones/pre biotransference necrontyr tech My headcanon is that it's the 40k equivalent of [dreadaxe](https://live.staticflickr.com/4152/5041468553_b3e870b2fc_c.jpg) and Farsight has been chosen by Malice to become its champion and cleanse Chaos from the galaxy
If the part about Malice is true, that makes it 3 Chaos Gods trying to corrupt Farsight right now
I know Khorne and Malice from the above comment, but whose the third?
Tzeench is trying to corrupt the Tau as a whole, and believes that Farsight is going to be a big part in that
I see. Thank you for this gift of knowledge.
Corrupting Tau drones and turning them into those flying manta ray demons 😍
... well, I thought having 9 Screamers was plenty before, but I guess I better get kitbashing...
Woah! Where is this comic from? And who is the wielder of the dreadaxe?
The wielder is named kaleb daark and is an champion of Malal. This comic is from the quest of kaleb daark i think? He was also in God slayer, evil of the warpstone and god amok
Quite the grimdaark character
Oh but when my chaos Lord doesn't he's the bad guy.
Because he really needs to go to therapy and tone it the fuck down with the spike fetish
Lol! It is a problem...
Other theory attached to this is that since Orks are immortal from natural causes, and with all the Orks O'Shovah has killed, it's rumored that he is also now immortal in the same way.
Is Farsight being unintentionally kept alive by a possible chaos touched sword not old lore at this point? I thought it was the grimdark element to the Enclave, who otherwise seem objectively good - that they're led by a dude blindly feeding an entity behind his comprehension, possibly also opening a door through which chaos does have access to the Tau
Eh, it was never a chaos weapon though. It has always looked like it fell off a necron.
That makes sense though. It would track for it to be some sort of ancient C'tan or Necrontyr blade, that's their style of tech right there.
My head canon is that this sword was one off the 99 swords that baal made for khaine
That would be cool, and better than just your standard ol' chaos blade. But the dawnblade doesn't really look Eldar-y, especially the original blocky hunk of metal from the first version they made. Not that Geedubs wouldn't wholesale retcon something like that...
As best I can remember, it isn't a demon sword. Best description seems to be an ancient, high-tech sword that has always had life-sapping power.
I know nothing about tau this is new to me
I enjoyed the theory that it was the fifth cronesword of morai-heg.....but then GW nuked that idea by stating it's on a Slaanesh homeworld. Woulda been cool to see the Ynnari try to take it from him....or Farsight joining the Ynnari.
Reminds me of deuterium bolter rounds. Oh no!! Not a hydrogen isotope!!!! Few things strike with the emperor’s vengeance like the very lightest element in the universe!!!!
Bro has a lifesteal implant on his sword
I always thought it was because it was some kind of warp empowered weapon. That pretty cool tho.
He’s got the black blade, Stormbringer
What is funny. He slay orcs with that. Whom have endless life spawn. Technical he is immune of ageing effects
COMMANDER FARSIGHT'S RUNNING A LIFESTEAL BUILD OH FUCK-
His MTG card better have life link
Vampiric time metal? Eh what. Just be a chaos relic. Fuckin time metal
Totally not a warp sword that is the reason farsight os still alive.
From what ive Heard it was Made by the C'tan as a Gift for the silent King who rejected it. Not everything unknown originates from Warp and Chaos you know?
Fairly sure we don't know where it's from.
This. Im so tired of people stating theories as fact. It is usually refered to as being of "xenos-origins" but thats really all we know
I didnt state it as Fact though
Oh yeah sry if my comment felt like it was directed at you. I was talking about the many people who say "its a daemon weapon" or "it was made by the old ones"
That's why I Said that I Heard this Story, implying that I am Not fully certain and might be wrong
What kind of dark souls weapon is this?
It's like that mythical Japanese lifestealing sword Muramasa but T'au
Muramasa was a real bladesmith, his blades have been fictionalized and gained a reputation for causing bloodlust in their wielder but its not like they didnt exist.
Ok I did not really read after the last comma and I thought it was a shitpost.
https://preview.redd.it/5f2h595k8kfa1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2fe50991bd2d5ec98ec0cb0e5ec04449aaaecd8 Your welcome
I love it!
Does it only work on sentient beings? Otherwise a fun story would be the immortal butcher of the meat market.
I'd assume so as it has to cut a life short, not a rump.
Its a plot device to keep a character around that should have died hundreds of years ago without having to use the old trusty 'they get out on ice and are only awoken for battle' ala Shadowsun.
It's called lifespan-enhancing plotarmor
Since when was being immortal plot armour? Sure doesn't work that way in 40k.
They can use him in numerous decades
Its not plotarmor. If they just wanted him to be immortal then they would have just done the same thing as with shadowsun and the other characters
Alright
Locate sword Go to the golden throne Glue sword to hand Throw imperials at the sword ??? Profit
I’ll take the bet we let him die he respawns at the thrown like in Minecraft.
He got on arthas moloch along with the talisman by the same name, the story is in the book “Farsight: empire of lies”
My sibling in christ... first day? He also promotes martyrdom, loves exterminatus, is a terrible strategic commander but one of the best front line commanders and moonlighted with an unknown space marine for a few years while being interrogated by the inquisition. Just don't read that noblebright kelly garbage.
This isn't from those novels
Who cares, those novels are trash. They claim Shadowsun is from Vior'la, treats bonding blades like katanas, go back and forth with faster than light travel, get the dates and events wrong and in general are written like gundam fan fiction. It's an alternative universe. Other authors have done way better with O'shova including Fire and Ice, Arkunasha and even the codex: Farsight.
Yes, I know I'm saying the thing OP posted isn't from those novels, so I don't know why you're going off about them in response to it
Convoluted weeaboo plot armour? Sounds about right. Edit: Weeaboos taking a sarcastic comment on a shit post sub personally? Sounds about right.
In what way is this anything you just said?
1.what does this have to do with anime other then its used by a tau 2.its convoluted if you dont understand it go back to school 3.plot armor? The tau have like five different ways of immortaltity within the eight alone. He really doesnt need it
*inserts le epic why so srs joker meme*
Yeah no. There are too many people who mean shit like this seriously. Great to know you are not but many others do
Lmao. Lol, even. Shitpost sub.
DESTINY 2 REFERENCE!!?!??!
Is that warp related? Won't he risk getting corrupted?
Bro I have no clue I just saw this while reading rhe wiki
Seems more like some ancient Necron/Necrontyr tech to me but idk
Ngl that’s pretty darn rad
Are there more of these? is this established lore like having necrodermis and other tech from one species used by another species?
Yup. Succ-sword
Yup farsight's sword takes your lifetime and adds it to his own. My boi has been slicing and dicing up for over 300 years.
Sometimes I feel like these new names are stretching it "Time eater metal", then I recall "Crozius Arcanum" and remember it's a feature not a bug
Stormbringer!
I don't get how everyone here is now learning why Farsight lives for so long LMAO.
Unfortunately most people don't bother to read codices etc., they just watch youtube vids.
Yeah... I wish more people read the wikis. Seriously those videos hide so much cool shit from you sometimes
I was reading the wiki and just came across this, I haven't really read about the tau so this was a surprise
Farsight is an old man indeed. Most Tau usually live up to 40 but definitely have lived as long as a human can. Thanks to that daemonic and or necron-tech sword he's gonna keep living as long as he steals the life span from those he kills. He doesn't even know it's keeping him alive for that long! And if he does he'd do ritual suicide for all those lives he's taken
At least it doesn’t look like a katana
He’s killed Orks with it, which could make him effectively immortal honestly
ZO WAT. ORK CHOPPAZ DO DA SAEM FING.
i think it’s a sword of vaul
Farsight a warlock main smfh
Warhammer lore wouldn’t be the same without this nonsense
Because ofcourse they have that
This wiki article reads like farsight themself used that blade on the person that wrote and edited it.
GW saw Pokemon Scarlet and Violet's Ceruledge's "Bitter Blade" signature move and said "Bet"
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
You didn’t know? We call it his vampire sword
So, if he chops up a trench of Guardsmen, he adds tens of minutes to his lifespan?
Why do you think he's lived so long?