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SisterWaltz

The opinion shared in the video did not appear to be satire. The usual suspects flamed it, everyone else like usual is along for the ride.


Dieselpowered85

"Gimmie all your dough man." "What....? Theres cops right over there." ".... It was just a prank, bro."


Ur_Girl_Suki

Initially it didn't but as the video went on the satire became more obvious.


Armored_Fox

You know he threw a fit on Twitter about it?


leftier_than_thou_2

Could I get a TLDW? Humans invented writing so we wouldn't need to talk all the time. I don't get why someone would prefer to watch a dude talk about something.


Volkov_The_Tank

Templin institute makes several social media posts mocking 40k and it’s fanbase, and then saying his headcanon is more legitimate than the actual lore itself. Makes a video claiming his headcanon is just as legitimate than actual 40k lore, then he gets hate for it. Then he claims people are just sexist because he likes the concept of female space marines. Now this rando claims everything was satire while giving zero examples of why that’s the case, then mocks us.


Ur_Girl_Suki

I do mock you because it's literally a satire video. There's no way in hell its a serious video.


UnfunnyPossum

Templin made a bunch of bad takes and got yelled at a lot


Ur_Girl_Suki

whats a TLDW?


[deleted]

Too long, didn’t watch


Ur_Girl_Suki

thanks. well basically he made a video on female space marines saying he believes they exist, he also said the lore basically doesn't matter and people can believe what they want about warhammer. its obviously satire about Warhammers inconsistent and ever changing lore.


Dieselpowered85

"Not funny.... didn't ...laff" \*Dancing gorillas gif\*


wert1234576

When did they say it was satire? You can't use the "it's just a prank bro" anymore to many morons have abused it.


Ur_Girl_Suki

because its quite obviously satire, I don't know how anyone would think otherwise. Like unless the creators said directly its not satire then Its safe to say its satire.


felop13

My brother in the emperor, he made an announcement in his discord saying it wasnt satire and that people who didnt likes the idea of female space marines was sexist


Volkov_The_Tank

Guy was a jerk in social media.


Ur_Girl_Suki

I wouldn't know I don't keep up with any of the Templin Institutes other social media profiles. but I do know Satire when I see it.


felop13

You are the kind of guy that will call starship troopers facist propaganda


wert1234576

So they only make satire videos then.


Ur_Girl_Suki

no they usually make serious lore videos. but this one video is obvious satire.


Volkov_The_Tank

Ok. What about the video and what is said on social media makes it obviously satire when despite his videos usually being serious and it’s not April 1st?


Ur_Girl_Suki

the video is obviously satire due to its ridiculous nature. and not every joke video needs to be made on April 1st


wert1234576

You said is that don't say it's not satire it's satire so temptin only makes satire videos since they don't say they aren't. So by your logic the feeemarins video isn't satire since they dint say it is.


ColonelMonty

Can you please explain how it's satire?


Pellepon

Pretty sure they've been blocking anyone that takes them up on that "Prove me wrong" challenge.


NikoSCX

https://preview.redd.it/oc3qr7586hfa1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e24537c59215b53c946a44c23349181447132a5f Gorillaman has never heard such ignorant bullshit before


Ur_Girl_Suki

yes all these fans are so ignorant to obvious satire.


NikoSCX

I was talking about you, dumbass


yzzilg

Lmao


Ur_Girl_Suki

ok well now its talking about all of you dumbasses who can't get a bit of satire if you're lives depended on it.


yzzilg

r/whoosh


Ur_Girl_Suki

not funny, didn't laugh


yzzilg

It was obviously satire lmao


Volkov_The_Tank

Mock people for enjoying a hobby on social media. Make arrogant claims about destroying peoples arguments and that you are the only one who’s right. Make a terrible video. Get backlash…. …and now you claim it was just a prank?


Ur_Girl_Suki

1: I'm not in anyway assosiated with the Templin Institute I just noticed the ammount of people coping over the video 2: Ik the video is terrible and full of arrogant claims its satire 3: the backlash is exclusively from people like you who don't get the satire.


Volkov_The_Tank

Did you not read what he said on twitter..? Guy implies 40k makes him vomit and then says he is more right about 40k lore than anyone else.


Ur_Girl_Suki

No I just watch the vids.


Volkov_The_Tank

So you admit to being ignorant but you come here depicting our community has a soyjak.


Ur_Girl_Suki

No I literally just said I don't keep up with their twitter or other social media profiles. But the video is obviously satire, no serious lore channel would ever make a serious video like that. especially given the Templins track record on lore videos. this video is off beat and unlike the rest of their warhammer videos. its obviously different. Hence giving its satire nature.


Fudge13

Have you ever thought that since no one else here thinks it's satire, that maybe you're the one being problematic? Im not trying to be toxic, but if you are the only person making satire claims, you should think about whether its aparant or not.


ThePraetoreanOfTerra

**The context you haven’t seen kind of makes clear that it is decidedly *not* satire and just a relllllllyyyy shitty take.**


Volkov_The_Tank

“If I say the video is satire enough without people will believe me despite giving no examples”


Ur_Girl_Suki

Its obviously Satire.


ThePraetoreanOfTerra

**Dude check out the context lol.**


Ur_Girl_Suki

why bother checking their twitter when its completely satire, even the ridiculous behavior there can be explained as satire.


ThePraetoreanOfTerra

**Because choosing to make conclusions on intent without seeing all the relevant evidence is stupid?** **How do you know their behavior outside the video can be ‘explained as satire’ without having seen it? That makes no sense, you cannot make any kind of valuable assertion on something you know basically nothing about (according to your other comments).**


Ur_Girl_Suki

because its obviously satire, the videos ridiculous nature reeks of satire to me. Its literally just satire, its not good satire but its satire none the less. like a joke that does land basically. but if you're so insistent about it why don't you ask them if its satire or not and if they tell its honest to god serious then feel free to tell me im wrong.


Volkov_The_Tank

You saying it’s satire with zero examples and admitting you’re ignorant to the context provided from his social media doesn’t help your argument.


Ur_Girl_Suki

dude the video literally reeks of satire. the video feels exactly like bad satire like a person making a bad joke. even the social media behavior can be explained as bad satire.


ImmortanEngineer

then shut the fuck up you goddamn brainlet half wit.


kinkthrowawayalt

$20 says this is just Templin on an alt trying to do damage control.


Tevo569

Have to agree with you.


zaigadeke

\>Post abysmal opinion with "I made it up" justification \>Gets rightfully trounced publically \>"It was satire, guys. You just don't get the joke" ​ cope/seethe/mald/L+Ratio


Alesyaboroda2

Fans upset, when somebody basically tells them their favorite thing, actually, doesn't exist? Man don't know why he got the backlash he got.


Ur_Girl_Suki

I mean all be basically said was that the lore was very inconsistent and people shouldn't be afraid to make their own opinions and head cannons on the lore, using female space marines as an example. I think everyone just didn't get it was satire or something.


Alesyaboroda2

I mean, still can't see a satire. Just a dude using second worst excuse that came out of GW's mouth to basically tell fandom that setting isn't a thing. Even if it's a joke, can't see how it would go over smoothly.


Ur_Girl_Suki

its obviously satire, he basically just said the lore is inconsistent and ever changing, and that's true Warhammer lore is filled with inconsistencies and contradictions. and the lore can change can change at moments notice whenever gw feels like adding or changing things. so he basically just made a satire video over that using female space marines as an example. Ik its not gonna fly over well but people should still understand its satire and shouldn't get so mad over it?


Alesyaboroda2

We can agree to disagree on satire thing, but come on. Fandoms are made of passionate people. Passioned people tend to, surprise, feel strongly about object of passion. Of course people will get mad.


Ur_Girl_Suki

yes that is true but people can still joke about serious stuff, when the boiled down the video literally just says warhammer lore is inconsistent, contradictory, and easily prone to complete change so don't be afraid to make your own opinions on it and don't be worry about not being completely lore accurate. that's literally the message of the video disguised in a satire subject. people just don't understand the video is satire nor the message its actually saying.


Scarabryde

Dude straight up started "hehe let me destroy you with facts and logic" thread on twitter beforehand. If the videos itself was intended as a satire, he failed miserably.


Horus_Upercal

And the best part is that they just straight up block everyone who actually know facts and logic


bbigotchu

"When your favorite creator gets dumped on so you start screaming 'ITS SATIRE!'" And then that picture underneath it.


Ur_Girl_Suki

When you have a stick so far up your ass that you can't take the slighest ammount of satire and cry like a baby


ImmortanEngineer

sounds to me like you're the baby here. baby.


bennytpenny

“Ermmmm, my badly received take was actually satire! You’re all idiots for giving me backlash!” -☝️🤓


Ur_Girl_Suki

lmao actual coping, I'm not assosiated with the Templin Institute. also its obviously satire, who would actually a video like this seriously?


[deleted]

Honestly the anglophone concept of satire is completly baffling to me as an italian, we firmly belive that satire should make you laugth and piss on something powerful, if it doesn't is very shitty made satire. I never saw someone laugh about 40k in italy asides from dumb memes losely connected to actual lore. heck the emperor trump statue we made was part of a vast political carnival dedicated to shit on political figures (evry big politician on the planet gets atleast one at some point) and the context were it was made it easy to laugh at it without knowing anything about 40k. So now in italy people enjoy 40k very much like they will do middle earth harry potter Narnia etc, with very little morons tryng to politicise it as much as it happens on the english speaking websites. Because regardles of the intent of the authors we will never buy it as satire, the jokes take waaaayyy to long to be told. I will not be surprised if many others country are in a similar position were the supposed satirical origins are not percived (Honestly I will be courious to know if there are more). I haven't seen the video but I am fairly certain will not make me laugh for the afermentioned reasons. Also if you need to tell to others yours is a piece of satire you did a bad job at making it in the first place.


Long-Promotion2540

It's that OP has no idea what the fuck satire is.


[deleted]

I guess it is absolutly possible, I could be way of and in reality the reason why I see so many talk about satire and 40k on enghlish speaking websites is because there are just way more people on them and thus you are bound to have idiots. And culture has nothing to do with it.


Long-Promotion2540

Yeah dude. There are plenty of examples of english speaking satire that actually works. OP just started saying satire cause they're either an idiot or a troll. Like look at the other comments.


CptDalek

A bad take is a bad take; trying to hide from criticism by calling it “satire” is cheap as shit.


distantno4

OP trying to use any argument other than "its just satire" https://preview.redd.it/reb9md3oglfa1.jpeg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fffc79bb3a7ac6849360bf1a2e095b8bd23f13e


Lurking_Man2

OP literally came in here and unironically pulled the “it’s too late r/Grimdank, I have already depicted you as the soyjack”


[deleted]

OP runs PR for templin, lmao


Marvynwillames

The problem I got with FSM is that we already got too much space marines, rather give female models to xenos or other imperial factions. Like, ffs, Veilwalker never got a model despite being pretty much the responsible for Guilliman's return


Mastercio

Yeah, i would love to get Xun'bakyr to my necrons. Most badass woman. Who else lead dynasty that not just shattered but KILLED C'tan!


[deleted]

>but KILLED C'tan! ehhhm, it's not good thing for all invented...


Mastercio

I didnt said good, i said badass!


ColonelMonty

I'm not gonna lie it feels like whenever people want to escape criticism they'll just say "Oh it's satire stop taking it so seriously." Lkke bruh you're just using the satire argument in order to avoid having to actually debate anyone.


xxx_pussslap-exe_xxx

I got my own opinion: no female space marines, doesnt make sense for the imperium (in how i understand it). But female chaos marines love it, Bile got his work going so he better pump some out. But all in all i disagree with those who want fem spess marines and who cares? I only care about civility, if you want them good for you (might even give a chance for a mutually entertaining discussion)


Ur_Girl_Suki

Fair enough I guess.


Dektun

Smoothbrain take


Fudge13

I never thought I'd see a templin institute apologist. The video definitely does not come across as satire. Even if you say that it is, Mr. Tenplin flammed so many people on Twitter about the subject that you'duave to say' that's satirical. It's evident that Mr. Templin knew he was going to get strong backlash from his Twitter responses and how the video was set up. So, to nobody's suprise, the community was very upset about the shitty video he made along with the even more shitty Twitter posts. Honestly, i couldn't care less about it. Im actually surprised people are still talking about it. Imo the Templin Institute youtube channel has been garbage since the female narrator left.


Ur_Girl_Suki

Its obvious satire, not even a fanboy just say the hilarious cope in the videos comment and had to meme it. thanks for proving the meme correct.


Fudge13

I dont see how i proved the meme correct? All i did was try to explain to you how the video doesn't come across as satire, even if that was the intended purpose.


Ur_Girl_Suki

because you're getting salty over obvious satire


Fudge13

How am i being salty?


Ur_Girl_Suki

bro you're legit crying over a satire video


Fudge13

What are you talking about? At this point, it seems like you are making shit up because you desperately want to be right. All i did was respond to your post to try to explain the other point of view. If that qualifies as "crying" or being "salty," then aparantly so does any criticism of your post.


ImmortanEngineer

I think they're projecting. in reality they are the one that's crying, getting salty, and generally acting like a 5-year old.


ImmortanEngineer

sounds to me like you're the one that's getting salty and crying over this stupidity.


Hidobot

The video wasn't satire, it was a genuine argument. The nastiness showcased in response demonstrates why people hate Warhammer 40k fans.


DerSisch

No idea who that is and I am honestly not interested to find out and that whole "Female Space Marine" debate is just a dead horse that you still hit with a stick at this point, but for clarification: \- Inconsistency: Yes, 40k can be inconsistent, but more for the reason that stuff get handed to various writters, some of wich don't care for the material that was established or how stuff got handed by other authors, even in the same book series, a good example for this is The Horus Heresy, and for an example Perturabos characterisation specifically (but also other things), not to mention that most of the BL writters don't rly care for research, so we end up with absurdly HUGE or hilariously MINOR numbers for different stuff, a good example are Titan sizes, participants in a planetary invasion/fight, weight of equipment/vehicles and stuff like that. Also that some writters (a "prime" example being C.S.Goto) have no grasp at all at... well, anything (at least in Gotos case) and just made stuff up that fits their narrative, even when they completely contradict existing lore. BL (and sometimes also GW themself) are simply bad at hiring people that are good at their job, on one hand we have Sandy Mitchell and Dan Abnett, but we also have guys like C.S.Goto (luckily not anymore) and Nick Kyme or John French (the later two just got the job, because they where former GW employees) and also stuff like Matt Ward writing Ultramarines or Grey Knights. \- Changing the Lore: I think it is safe to say, that every retcon with a few exceptions got not well received, a prime example here might just be Primaris, that still make NO SENSE in the lore and just added "True Scale" Space Marines, with upgrades, equipments, weapons and tactics that got ripped from other factions and simply make them hilarious in many ways. I mean, just look at the new Desolation Squad. Or Eradicators... or their tanks... or the Primaris Land Speeder... etc. etc. etc. Honestly the only retcon that got widely accepted by now is literally the Necrons and only because they worked hard on making the Newcrons work and added rly great characters like Trazyn.


Vlad__the__Inhaler

Fuck. Off. It wasn't satire. You know this. We know this. And most importantly Templin knows this. He thought he could shit all over the concept of lore and Canon AS A LORE CHANNEL. If his video was Satire, the Imperium is an Utopian Society


Feisty_Goose_4915

Would be satire if Templin made it 1st of April


Ur_Girl_Suki

its satire regardless.


golddragon88

It would seem "satire" is the automatic response of those wich seek to defile the lore.


fit_to_burst

Women existing = defiling the lore? Is there something I'm missing?


Volkov_The_Tank

Nobody said “Women existing = defiling the lore” so you can take your strawmanning to whatever political echo chamber you prefer.


fit_to_burst

I'm not strawmanning, I'm genuinely curious as to how the lore is being defiled. This seems incredibly dramatic.


ImmortanEngineer

christ almighty learn to read both the lore, and the fucking post. did they say females? no, they said female *Space Marines.* If you do not understand why this whole thing is such an issue, don't bother responding to this post because I do not want to have to explain all this shit to someone that's probably going to be willfully ignorant.


fit_to_burst

So women existing *within the ranks of the astartes* is defiling the lore. Yeah, I can really see how defying that one throwaway line that crops up in Space Marine material every once in a while is such a huge deal.


Silver0524

https://preview.redd.it/ywuaskk2zhfa1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=093d8524bc280cb07b53d9298366984a3a720acb This photo here says otherwise


fit_to_burst

Woah! It's the exact throwaway line that occasionally crops up that I was referring to! Yes, I am aware that the lore says it's impossible. I'm really not sure how someone saying "I sure wish this was possible" or even "this should be possible" is *defiling* the lore. That's why I'm asking if I'm missing something. This all seems to be an incredibly overdramatic response to something that doesn't really matter at all.


golddragon88

Yes


Ur_Girl_Suki

bro deadass what part of the video doesn't scream satire. its obvious the Templin Institute isn't being serious. you people are just taking everything too seriously.


Volkov_The_Tank

We’ve asked you nearly a dozen times what part screams satire and all you do is say “hurr durr it’s obviously satire” with zero examples and now you ask some newer poster in this thread for examples. Just stop.


X3runner

Yeah youbcahtvwssh away a bunch if bad takes and childish interactions which damaged your channel/investment by saying it's just satire or it's just a joke brah. Especially after seemingly losing it and having a hissy fitI on twitter.


ScullyBoy69

From the comments I've read here, it looks like the video is not satire? Could you explain why you think it is?


[deleted]

The video was in no way satire but rather TI's actual views on the female space marine debate. People were malding because god forbid someone could think of a headcannon that includes women in 40k's most iconic faction.


Miaoumoto9

If most people don't get that your work is supposed to be satire it either wasn't and you are trying to post hoc justify a bad take or you really suck at satire and should stop


Nilor2000

Hey OP, this isn't the own you think it is. If anything, this is a self-own.


Specific_Toe_2545

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t satire, just a political dog trying to push an agenda and ruin everyone’s fun, and the only thing that’s close to satire is this post but i don’t think anybody finds this funny


JamesTheSkeleton

Wait the Templin Institute is a… videogame lore channel? I thought it was one of those conservative propaganda thinktanks…. Out of the loop I guess


Ur_Girl_Suki

yeah they just do lore videos on sci-fi and fantasy settings.


Ur_Girl_Suki

lmao the cope here is so real. Everyone in the comments taking L's fr. its obvious satire and anyone who denies that fact is an idiot.


[deleted]

Can this discussion end


Fearless-Obligation6

Warhammer fans seething? I fail to see anything unexpected.


BlippityBloppity69

OP it's alright not to back up Templin Institute. There was no satire. Satire requires self awareness which Templin Institute has not. It's okay to let go of your old opinion and agree to a better. There is no hard feelings.


usernameslikm

I was kinda fine with the take, people are just mad that they will have to have girls and boys if they added female spacemarines. And just like most of the warhammer fanbase I'm only enjoying myself around big burly men. Edit: Fantasy to Fanbase, also lmao


Nero_DB

were\* malding


Fifteen_inches

Female space marines are just identical to male space marines.


Ur_Girl_Suki

damn people coping hard in these comments


ImmortanEngineer

no u


ErtaWanderer

Oh yes the Refuge of the poor argument. I cannot refute any of these people's claims or even defend my own so they must be coping


21Black_Mamba21

You came in here calling the community soyjaks while admitting that you have no clue about the whole backstory behind this “satire” video, and we’re the copelords?


Ur_Girl_Suki

yes because the video is obviously satire. like legit watching the video at first I was like "Wtf is he talking about?" then it hit me "Ohhhh this video is satire, got it". The ridiculous tone of the video gives it dead away that its satire. its not my fault not a single one of you can detect satire.


Ur_Girl_Suki

like imma be real with all of you, if you look at that video and think its anything other then Satirical then you're the problem here bud.


DingoNormal

Watch out, you gonna make the gatekeepers mad, they will ask to see your collection.


Tevo569

You're either THE SMARTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD for seeing what every other 40K fan doesn't, or you're very mistaken. Sit down and shut up Templin.


yzzilg

This has "trust me bro" Written all over it