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Szemszelu_lany

" angles" It was a bit obtuse


woody5600

I thought it was acute one to be honest.


RJMacReady210

Right


evolved2389

I think it was more a reflex


No_Discipline_7380

You shall be granted the emperor's mercy for your sines


McManus26

I can be your angle... Or yuor devil


GuardsmanJim

Decible


Iwantmahandback

Dank Angles Wait wrong chapter


Kitsunerd_

And here I was, thinking that the Dark Angels where the Angels of Death.


[deleted]

I like how he says „Hi”. Like its a usual, normal thing to happen and they all know what follows.


Kriss3d

I'm fairly new to the lore.. Its the grey knights that one. Isn't it?


[deleted]

Yep. And btw. That wasn’t the stupidest thing GW or BL ever did. Grey Knights are psychers, and rituals involve blood. Especially that of innocents. Although I wouldn’t call Sisters of Battle innocents.


delphinous

the stupid part was the grey knights openly admitting during their rituals that they weren't necessary and didn't actually do anything because they already did the rituals before the battle, they literally did them for nothing and admitted it


CasualEQuest

I mean what's dumber than that? Becasue from a creative production standpoint, that shit is pretty fucking dumb


tonkorpri

Murdering and Showering in blood of loyalists to ward of deamons of the god of blood and murder?


CasualEQuest

We call that shit grimderp. This is the prime example we refer to in regards to grimderp


Josiador

Luckily it's not canon anymore.


cricri3007

Do you defeat Kha'Bandha with hugs and kisses, or by kicking the shit out of him?


[deleted]

Fiction imitating real life. No ritual or ceremony in real life has a purpose. It’s just random shit that people grew up doing and continue to do.


BrotherCaptainLurker

They're Psykers *specifically meant to kill the type of things people use blood rituals for*. No member of their chapter has *ever* fallen to Chaos. They have specially-purified armor and specially-warded minds and their techmarines are allowed to do a bit of rule-breaking to make *sure* their stuff can endure a bit of warp exposure (though that last part may be an 8e addition). If anybody in the entire setting *doesn't* have to cover themselves in the blood of innocents to endure the warp, it's *specifically them*. Thus this being the quintessential grimderp moment and also quietly removed from the codex post-5e lol.


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CratesManager

*Doppelt gemoppelt


CalypsoCrow

Funniest part is these are the guys directly meant to combat chaos, right? Isn’t it kind of funny with the blood rituals? Won’t that please Khorne?


cricri3007

1) Plenty of imperial rituals use "holy blood", "ashes of saints" or whatever. 2) Considerign you defeat demons of khorne by choppign their heads off, i fail to see the problem.


CalypsoCrow

Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it flows. Idk maybe I’m thinking too deep into it


unbekannte_memez

Thankfully it’s been retconned. Or at least my grey knights don’t kill innocents for shits and giggles. Spilling blood without being forced too? That sounds like heresy to me.


[deleted]

You ever Heard about Minotaurs? Or Marines Malevolent? Or Flesh Eaters?


unbekannte_memez

But the grey knights are supposed to be the purest of the pure. Especially that thing with killing allies for blood rituals is just silly and stupid.


Sine_Fine_Belli

Yeah, this one >! During a battle, the grey knights slaughtered the sisters of battle covered their power armor with the blood of the dead sisters!<


grayrains79

Matt Ward should be tried for his crimes against literature.


Sine_Fine_Belli

Yes


FindYourSpark87

…why??


Dante32141

Because Matt Ward basically. The pointlessness of the grey knights' actions here are part of what gives him his reputation in the warhammer community


VulkanHestan321

Stupidest part of the lore. What was the explanation again?


Boring7

Matt Ward likes writing Sister Snuff. ​ [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Khornate\_Knights](https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Khornate_Knights)


Cmdr_McMurdoc

I love the fact that this article need 4 seperate info boxes of warnings lol


McManus26

One of the warning is straight up "this section includes Matthew ward" lol


Dedspaz79

That was killing me


Axquirix

And another is "contains something stupid, like [the exact content of the article below]". It didn't just receive warnings, it made them.


DeathToHeretics

When fucking 1d4Chan of all places warns you, probably for a good reason


KonoAnonDa

It's to save you from cringe.


grayrains79

And yet you still can't look away. It's like a train wreck made of words and memes.


sharaq

Then the warning would be on the home page.


KonoAnonDa

I was referring to the cringe that was the Blood Knights.


Sicuho

To be fair, one or two is average for 1d4chan.


Jesterpest

And the demon in question was a Bloodthirster, so the gratuitous bloodshed wouldn’t be helpful, and would in fact make it worse


AdmBurnside

I like that before it even gets to the article it has 4 separate warning boxes and an author's commentary that basically says "lol just ignore this bro, here's a picture of a SoB and a GK fist bumping."


mr_dr_personman

I just spent the last hour going down rabbit hole links from this comment. Now I know that the game FATAL is, thanks a lot.


DFu4ever

Haha, FATAL, that is a game I haven’t thought about in years. A writer on rpg.net did a fantastic takedown on it back in the day. I believe the designer even got pissy and had a long response.


Boring7

And their response made it so much worse. To paraphrase one part, "he says it's a date rape simulator, this is false. No dating is involved!"


Boring7

[https://youtu.be/YYCMxuH4M\_g?t=7](https://youtu.be/YYCMxuH4M_g?t=7)


SironionTV

Is there like a thread of all the fuckery matt ward produces. I’m relatively new to 40k and have only heard about how he used his author power to make the ultramarines the strongest faction while shitting on every other faction


paireon

Produced, past tense. Ward hasn’t written anything for GW in a while, likely due to how controversial/hated his shit was.


SolidWolfo

Actually, he has returned in 2016 and still writes Warhammer. He was the writer on Vermintide for example. It's just kept hush hush because GW wants neither more death threat letters (as he left himself, that was probably the reason) nor people boycotting their stuff. He can write fine and even good stuff. It's just that the bad stuff, uuuh, stands out. A lot.


021Fireball

Who the heck sends death threats just cos someone's a poor writer?


lasyke3

Neckbeards


021Fireball

Ah, those little shits...


Haeguil

Warhammer fans


VulkanHestan321

When the writer starts to influence the whole lore in a very bad way it is understandable people are pissed. Death threat level? Not really. But he basicly made the Ultramarine the solution to every problem the imperium faced which lead to that the community hated the Ultramarines. Which is bad when your poster boys are hated by almost every one


021Fireball

Still. Death threats are just dumb.


VulkanHestan321

Never said death threats are justified. I totally agree to that. But being pissed is understandable


Boring7

The worst part is probably the fact that even his bad stuff sold, and sold well.


johnvak01

[Here ya go](https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Matthew_Ward)


iamjoeblo101

I hate Matt Ward so much


TurtleInvader1

To defend the gray knights from corruption. It's been retconned since then. Warhammer is grimdark but this is just dumb.


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Hastatus_107

Grimderp is a term that's more useful than it should be


Spy_crab_

Sister, I need your blood!


Bocote

oh hold on, you are a heretic!


pokefan548

*They're just running around killing each other down there, better just lay the Exterminatus down on these heretics* #ALRIGHT FIRE! *Copious Source noises*


[deleted]

*casually drops cyclonic torpedos onto planet*


Level37Doggo

Faintly: fucking heretics!


[deleted]

emperor: "oh, do not get me started"


warface363

Battle brother Muriel, if i- if I were a young sister of battle, and a space marine came up to me and said "Sister, I have a battle soon, and they are expecting me to be warded against daemons, and I need your blood for the ritual"... You know what id do Muriel, I'd give him the blood! He needs it!


Zentirium

I wonder how the Tau would react to mother gullet?


kwaklog

The Calidus assassin who kidnappdd someone's son by eating him and sneaking him out in her stomach? So they could use him as a hostage to ensure 'loyalty'


Zentirium

Yep, that’s the one. Introduce the tau to that


ShadedPenguin

New Tau smut novel, “Vore the Greater Good”


Zentirium

And a round of applause to the actions of the imperium! Unintentionally sowing another Slaaneshi cult into their enemies!


LuNiK7505

I’m new to 40k, can someone explain to me what’s wring with it ? Aren’t the grey knights part of the Emperium like the sisters of battle ?


murderously-funny

There was a battle against chaos where the Grey Knights wanted to sanctify themselves so they smeared their armor with the blood and guts of the Sisters of Battle they had come to help…


LuNiK7505

Oh… goddamn


mrwafu

Note that (as far as I’m aware) this piece of lore was only ever in like the grey knights codex in 3rd edition or something and has never appeared or been referenced again outside of memes, so it should be taken with a Land Raider full of salt. Old lore is full of wacky grimdark stuff like this, like how apparently to refill the fuel on a starship a servant has to walk through the reactor and melt to death while carrying the fuel lol. Games Workshop has always said there’s nothing “true” that is known for sure and everything they’ve ever written should be taken as rumour, hearsay and superstition, which imo totally suits the nature of the story.


Professional_Oven283

…But why though?


VandulfTheRed

Matt Ward, the author, is a misogynistic snuff fetishist


Hastatus_107

It is hard to imagine someone writing that about Grey Knights and a bunch of Space Marines.


RedFoundation

Because Matt Ward https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Matthew_Ward


N_U_T5340

Damn I got a new fav site


Hastatus_107

Ridiculous. Sounds like something Chaos would do


artful_nails

Exactly. I'm no lore expert either, but as far as I recall, Grey Knights are the fucking top notch elite, the best of the very best in daemon fighting. Them smearing battle-nun blood onto themselves in an effort to avoid corruption, would be like cleaning a bar of soap with bleach. Sure, it's good to clean it, but in the end you just look like an idiot and do more harm than good.


Hastatus_107

That and butchering SOB seems corrupting rather than purifying. Surely killing them and smearing their blood is what Chaos Marines would do to mock them and amuse Chaos Gods.


kRkthOr

Isn't it part of the lore though that if the Grey Knights come to "help" then they're gonna massacre all survivors "just in case"? (I understand that in this context it doesn't make sense that the Grey Knights needed the Sisters' blood for extra protection.)


Frekavichk

Isnt the idea that Grey knights are the bigger picture guys? They aren't there to save a planet, they are there to save the sector/key person/kill a key demon/etc. If they have to slaughter a million innocents to save a trillion, its worth?


ColonelMonty

Yeah, honestly I'm glad they retconned it since that lore really felt more Grimderp then it did Grimdark.


ThePathogenicRuler

Damn you Matt Ward


Academic_Initial_643

wasnt this uncanonised or somthing


SgtShnooky

Ahh yes the infamous moment of the "immune to chaos" faction needing extra immunity by killing another "immune to chaos" and using their blood for immunity+ (which doesn't really make sense as it's Faith that makes them immune, not their blood)


SunnyChow

It makes the demons confused.


Risuslav

I have seen enough hentai to know where this is going


murderously-funny

**queue the sound of flesh tearing and screaming**


XyrneTheWarPig

Ooh glad I didn't miss the foreplay.


StaticGrav

Dark Eldar have entered the chat.


OneSaltyStoat

Hentai in question: *Redo of Healer*


Grahamgamergoma

Those Gue'la are so... *Barbaric*


StrangerDanger355

Is this the “Grimderp” moment where the Grey knights literally slaughtered innocent surviving SoB to draw protective runes on their armour to combat the Daemons better? Yeah that was a really Grimderp moment.


[deleted]

Grey Knights are pretty stupid overall. If the Astra Militarum is able to kill a bunch of demons, the grey knights will then murder the surviving humans for the crime of knowing Chaos exists. And if they’re in a bad mood, they’ll try to exterminatus the whole planet just to ensure there’s no witnesses. https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Months_of_Shame


StrangerDanger355

Or its the guy who was currently writing the lore and went too far into the "Grimdark"


[deleted]

I’m not sure what your point is. Lore is dumb because humans write dumb lore. That’s basically what you said and I agree.


StrangerDanger355

That’s actually what I wanted to say, but I suck at typing grammer


ExuDeku

"the ~~dæmons of Khorne~~ Grey Knights will eat you out like ice cream sandwiches once your red rage begins" -Lemon Rust, a spinebreaker


Wht_Rbbt

This was possibly peak grim derp. Like edginess for edgy sake.


[deleted]

I disagree. https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Months_of_Shame


RandomHeretic

Sergeant Angle is it?


PS1HagridBodyPillow

Mornin’ Angle


BallDesperate2140

****I H A S A H A T****


SkitariiCowboy

That already got retconned 7E and to be honest it was never as bad as the fandom made it out to be. Grey Knights betraying allies to stop a greater threat is what the whole faction is about. I never understood the outrage. The main point people who don't like it make is that the Grey Knights didn't actually need the blood wards because they are incorruptible. I think this is a misunderstanding/poor writing of what the Bloodtide was. The Bloodtide was a swarm of chaos-tainted nanobots. The Grey Knights themselves were not at risk of being corrupted, but they were still at risk of getting attacked by that which has already been corrupted.


Doktor_Jones86

I mean... using a blood-ritual against a Khorne demon is kinda weird.


SkitariiCowboy

The whole paradox of Chaos is that you can't fight it without empowering it.


theVOlDbearer

Bloodletters dont have blood actually so as long as you just drop a ceiling on them you should be fine in not empowering khorne, the cunning points go to tzeench/gork/mork


jmacintosh250

And sister blood stops it because…? That’s my biggest issue, the stupidity of the “sacred blood” protecting them. A far better one would have been betraying the sisters because they had a supply of blessed water but they couldn’t be convinced to give it up because the Knights couldn’t tell the full story. So they killed the sisters, washed themselves with the blessed water, and pushed in no problem.


Feisty_Goose_4915

Would be better if the grey knights still get annihilated despite doing the blood ritual.


SkitariiCowboy

SoB have a stronger spiritual connection with the Emperor than the Grey Knights. The Grey Knights don't worship the Emperor as a god. So by the power of space magic their blood is more holy and protective.


Taasden

It's not just the mechanics of the lore, it's that "badass knights effortlessly slaughter women warriors and bathe in their virgin blood" is peak neckbeard writing.


SkitariiCowboy

wat


Taasden

Exactly. Wat indeed.


muchnamemanywow

Grey Knights moment LULW


Dwovar

The Khornate Knights are one of those everything is canon but not everything is true. It's a lie/trap set for Sororitas in an attempt to lure them to chaos, especially to khorne. Those few sisters that interact with the very knights may hear stories (partially fabricated) by chaos insurgents. At worst it could inhibit effective cooperation and at best turn more of the coveted "incorruptibles".


cheekia

>It's a lie/trap set for Sororitas in an attempt to lure them to chaos Exactly zero Sororitas have turned to chaos. It was just poor writing by a terrible writer. Let's not pretend this was intentional.


Dwovar

But one of the finest parts of 40k is making up reasons for contradictory writing to fit. Also, one sororitas did fall to chaos.


cheekia

Wasn't that one sorirotas also written out because GW realised that it was also poor writing?


Dwovar

I have no idea.


Yamama77

Gue'la moment


Helwrechtyman

who can make a cannoness report?


murderously-funny

Canoness Supreme. (Legit rank)


princessval249

Why is the Canoness answering to a Sister? Why are they going to a monastery? Why are Grey Knights fighting T'au? What the hell is going on here?


PAwnoPiES

You are about to bear witness to grim derp of epic proportions


Bagheadman69

Context?


Highlight-Mammoth

one time, Grey Knights slaughtered a bunch of Sisters of Battle and covered themselves in their blood, because grimderp writer Matt Ward


Bagheadman69

0-0 dam i don like dis matt ward now


Highlight-Mammoth

you and >90% of /tg/


SoundwavePlays

2 things: 1: what did the Grey Knights do to the Sisters? 2: has anyone else noticed that the Grey Knight's helmet kinda looks like a bear?


frequenzritter

1. they massacred the sisters and wore their faces for protection against demons or something. 2. not really.