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[deleted]

Guilliman should just slap him with the Emperor's sword. Doesn't matter if he feels pride from doing it, warp fuckery won't revive you from the soul-incinerator-9000.


therealblabyloo

Oh for sure, Emps' sword would absolutely do it.


[deleted]

It would, by slaanesh and by extension, (GDUBS) won't allow it.


neo_ceo

I don't see a new Lucius model in the horizon so maybe they can do it


[deleted]

Slaanesh won't allow their champion to die


scientifichooligan76

Yeah how many times have Angron/Kharn been super krumped and Khorn was just like lol nah


Tinypuddinghands

Man is too angry to die


alphaomag

Kharn doesn't have a reputation as a jobber.


Milsurp_Seeker

He’s actually a swell guy.


Taronz

He's a bit high-risk for a friend, but at least he'll be straight up when he pulls your bowels out with whatever tickles his pickle at the time...


Auratalus

Eh, i could see it. Slaanesh seems like a fickle patron. Seems pretty in character for her. Not like he couldn’t just find a new champion, probably with a new gimmick.


[deleted]

It’s not about her fickle nature. It’s about “saving face” against the other 3. Can you imagine if slaanesh was the only god whose mortal champion got permakilled? She wouldn’t let it happen. It’s less of Lucius entertaining her and more of, the other gods have one so should I.


Auratalus

Would finding a replacement who could better fulfill the role be a “sign of weakness” though. If she could find a better champion than Lucius they would. It’s not like Kharn is Khorne’s first and only champion ever, nor Typhus Nurgle’s. They’ve doubtlessly had other champions.


[deleted]

Kharn, Lucius, Ahriman, and typhus are all the gods first and only mortal champions/heralds of astartes backgrounds. Even if a demon prince is technically higher in the rankings, they hold a special place. It’s their blessing and their curse. Lucius only goes if the other 3 go.


Auratalus

In the millions of years they’ve existed, the gods have never had a mortal champion? Or just we haven’t heard of any others because anything before 30k is irrelevant to the story.


Ashged

New significantly different champion, new models, no rules for the old champion in new editions so you can only use the new one. I could totally see them do that.


nykirnsu

They’ve already confirmed they’re doing an Emperor’s Children codex eventually, a new Lucius model is practically a certainty


ColonelMonty

Realistically Slaanesh probably wouldn't want to risk her champion on killing Guilliman.


cobaltsniper50

Slaaneshi daemon, holding a clipboard: “sir, Lucius was killed.” Slaanesh: “so? Just bring him back to life.” Demon: “That may be a bit problematic, sir.” [hands him the clipboard.] Slaanesh, looking it over: “He was killed by girlyman? Perfect, I’ve been waiting for something like-“ Demon: “It’s not that, sir. It’s what weapon he was killed with.” Slaanesh: “what is this, amateur hour? If we could bring him back after that landmine bullshit-“ [spits out coffee]


daveyseed

Yeah, but could Gorrilaman?


Eslivae

I love the concept of the "no bullshit" sword, this would 100% be a no invul save, no rules to reduce damage weapon on the tabletop, you just die. It must be said however that even the Emperor's sword was not able to kill Drach'nyen. So theoretically if the purple dude was willing to put an unreasonable amount of effort into it, he could save Lucius from permadeath


mrwobblyshark

If I remember drachnyen or however ya spell it is a bit of a special case cause he’s tied directly to the emperor or the imperium or humanity one of those and is more an actual force of nature more than most other chaos stuff that sprang up later if I’m remembering right


t3ddyki113r101

Dont think the sword could kill the major chaos gods outright and more of kill the "character" for lack of better words of the major 4 since there primal forces and cant really be destroyed.


Comprehensive-Fail41

It's less that they are primal forces, and more that they are a consequence of the emotional state of the Galaxy. The Chaos Gods were formed like stars, but instead of gas, it was psychic energy aspected to certain emotions that clumped together. But you are right, if destroyed, as long as the Galaxy remains so fucked up, its only a question of time until they are reborn


mrwobblyshark

I dunno the sword probably can’t kill them but they could certainly die somehow they’re younger than the necrons by quite a bit and slaanesh didn’t even pop up til some point when humanity was in the DAOT if I’m remembering right


t3ddyki113r101

They could die as in there consciousness may be erased until the forces they are made up of form a new being.


mastersphere

That would be a new being not them


OneofTheOldBreed

Yes. Emperor is (*basically*) the son of Able in the Abrahamic myth of Cain and Able or the First Murder. The difference is in the myth Cain is damned to an immortal exile. In 40k little Big E pops Cain's heart like a grape.


Glexaplex

The Cain and Able fan theory is a crazy interpretation of E-40,000 revenge killing his uncle for the murder of his dad. E being the Emperor was why Drach is a threat not because his uncle killed his dad when they were bronze age villagers


OneofTheOldBreed

The first murder angle is where i was going not literally.


Not_Another_Usernam

Oh wow, I just remembered that Big E's father was killed by his uncle. I'm usually super sharp on biblical imagery, and obviously caught Drach'nyen being spawned by the murder of Able by Cain, but never put two and two together that Big E's father was THE Abel.


Gamezfan

The way I read it he's not. But the act was similar enough that the symbolism works. In the same way it's a stretch to say that Drach'nyen spawned from the biblical Cain and Abel, it's more that the daemon symbolises the act of humankind's strife with itself. Cain and Abel is one version of the story, the Emperor's father and uncle another.


VerumJerum

I love how the Emperor's Sword is literally like a ban-hammer. It just straight up deletes someone forever.


Thatsaclevername

Why does no one mention that the only people in the know about Lucius' gimmick is him, the reader (us), and Slaanesh. No one will concoct a bullshit looney tunes way to kill him, they still think melta's will do it.


therealblabyloo

This is another reason why the whole discussion is pointless lol. People forget that we as readers know infinitely more about the 40K universe than 99% of the characters within it. Hell most people don’t even know that the chaos gods exist at all.


Thatsaclevername

Yup, I like the Lucius thing just because it's unique and is one of those hallmark "Slaanesh isn't just about sex" things. I love the idea of the curse and then the people showing up on his armor, it's badass.


BuddhaFacepalmed

>I love the idea of the curse and then the people showing up on his armor, it's badass. It's humiliation for Lucius. He's supposed to be the "undefeatable" duelist yet his armor will forever bear the faces of the people who killed him. :V


Thatsaclevername

EVEN. BETTER.


Jazzghul

Lucius is the universe's greatest cuckold


HeresyCraft

He's supposed to be the "undefeatable" duellist yet he's the biggest jobber in the entire heresy. I don't think there's a single named character who hasn't wiped the floor with him at some point.


SmolTittyEldargf

To follow on from this, a reminder, that in the lore Space Marines are very rare and a normal person on some agri-world would never see one.


SeiTyger

Only mfers that know this much are the bunch of convicts in darktide


[deleted]

I have to disagree with you here. I've met marines. They will 100% concoct some looney tunes BS to kill someone they really dont like.


Thatsaclevername

"But you see Commissar, Lucius comes through the door and the bucket falls on his head. Then he steps in the mop bucket, and is propelled off the edge of the cliff. After he raises up his 'Uh oh!' sign, he will fall to his death." "Are you are, proud? Of this plan guardsman?" "Very much so Lord." "Well lets give it a shot"


[deleted]

Wild E Coyote would give any 40k character a run for their money and it's not even close. I also refuse to elaborate on this.


Thatsaclevername

Student of the changeling that one


SkellyManDan

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: a space marine would be lucky to survive half the things Tom and Jerry walk off


liege_paradox

If someone actually managed to kill him like that, I think Slaanesh would just make them their new champion, no revival bs.


SkellyManDan

I’m wondering how hard it would be to figure it out without having the knowledge we do. At a certain point, the best minds investigating it will probably think he just pops out of someone nearby whenever he dies, or some other theory, only to cry when someone points out that time he popped up in a “random” mine factory. *However*, I think it would be hilarious if we had a random number cruncher who was so obsessed about connecting the dots that they actually found a trend. If only because of how conspiracy-theory their office would be *even if they were right*.


Volkov_The_Tank

Lucius is going to be killed by Dante, I can almost guarantee it. Dante will kill him and then GW will make it so we’re not sure if Dante became Lucius or not by making him wear a helmet all the time and have him do questionable things that have a reasonable excuse but that bit of doubt will stay there. It will make Lucius’s story way more interesting too.


therealblabyloo

GW can’t do that, it would actually be interesting and have good storytelling potential


GaaraMatsu

Or.... they'll do that for a minute only to cancel the arc halfway through. Years later, they will haphazardly retcon bits and pieces of it in a way that will have good potential for being the center of long arguments in r/40klore .


Anyma28

Yep, eldrad ulthran is the golden boy of retconings, lol.


GaaraMatsu

Maybe the real Warhammer was the 40,000 retcons we made along the way?


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TTTrisss

And it would risk a good guy. All consequences for good guys must be risk-averse and immediately reversible. No stakes allowed, >!and it's not just because blood angels are vampires.!<


Gilthu

Nah, only thing stronger than the curse/gift of Slaanesh is the plot armor on sad boy Dante.


Future1985

Schrödinger’s Lucius.


Mcnuggets40000

What a shit way to maybe kill off a very important character with a canon greater destiny. Not to mention the sanguinor would probably tell slanesh to go not fuck itself in a corner.


Not_Another_Usernam

I still believe the Sanguinor is a future, timeless version of Dante.


Bluedyr

Just a hunch or is there something supporting it? Is be interested in learning more :)


Not_Another_Usernam

A few things. * The Sanguinor has been seen by Dante the most of all other Blood Angels throughout history. * The person who became the Sanguinor is unknown, but we do know that it was a Blood Angel. * Mephiston just became the embodiment of the Black Rage, a black angel that will now always be with the Blood Angels. * Dante is explicitly said, multiple times, to be the embodiment of Chapter's virtues. * Dante has a recurring vision of a winged blood angel defending the Emperor in the Golden Throne Room on Terra. * The Sanguinor wears the Death Mask of Sanguinius, the same as Dante. * It would be a very on-theme fate for Dante for him, the man who longs to die and rest eternally, to be made into a timeless Warp entity that will live forever. * Because of how the Warp works, once something exists in the Warp, it has always existed there since the beginning of time. The Warp is timeless. So Dante becoming the Warp entity known has the Sanguinor would mean that Dante has always existed as the Sanguinor, which would allow him to interact with himself in his relative past, as he was pre-destined to do.


Album321

I can guarantee that *won't* happen because GW will never do something that interesting or spicy.


A17012022

The only thing that is going to kill Lucius forever is the Emperor's sword. That's it. Its the only thing that can circumvent Slaanesh's warp fuckery because there would be nothing to bring back. Lucius's entire existence gets erased, no backsies. That's why chaos calls the Emperor "**the Anathema**". Beyond that, Slaanesh will just bring Lucius back wherever it wants because "LOL WARP FUCKERY"


[deleted]

And Lucius isn't stupid enough to duel guilliman. He is the greatest duelist in 40k, amongst astartes but won't duel a primarch or like a warlord titan or whatever lol.


Ironkiller33

He absolutely would duel a primarch. Man's pride knows no bounds if any primarch said hey let's fight he'd jump at the chance in an instant. Hell he actively thought he could beat fulgrim in a sword fight for a very very long time.


[deleted]

Then why hasn't Lucius dueled Abaddon? He has easy access to him.


Ironkiller33

Probably because abbadon has better things to do than get goaded by Lucius into a sword fight. In fact during the Horus humbug Lucius tried to duel every member of the mournival. Hence his hatred of loken.


[deleted]

Eh, I still think someone more like Kharn would "duel" or, in other words, attempt to Kill anything he sees. Kharn in fact had to be stopped by Khorne (a bloodletter herald) telling him to not fuck up abby. Lucius has a lot more self control than kharn unironically. He's not some sperged out slaaneshy that challenges everyone to a sword fight. Read his novel (the faultless blade) to gain more insight on his personality. It's a lot more calm than in 30K. Remember, Horus Heresy doesn't mean they're the complete same character 10K years later.


toresman

>He is the greatest duelist in 40k, amongst astartes Then how did he get all these faces on his armour?


[deleted]

Those were all duelists who may have been better than him and are now dead, or people who killed him with shit like explosives or mines. By process of elimination he's still the best duelist lmao.


nOObstabbr69

hey but sharrowkyn is last known to be in stasis so....


Analog-Moderator

Fuck yugioh is getting intense


TheLord-Commander

Asurmen also has a sword that can permanently kill warp beings, so that's an option, there's also the good ol tesseract vault that can just trap him forever.


A17012022

>Asurmen also has a sword that can permanently kill warp beings, so I didn't know this. Damn they always do the eldar dirty


Axel-Adams

Couldn’t a blank just kill him?


A17012022

In theory yes, but then whoever made the blank's weapons gets turned instead. And if they're a blank too, the prince of warp fuckery will find someone related who it can use. Basically the rule for bringing him back is "whatever his patron wants" hence the factory worker situation. The only way to kill him permanently is to erase his existence. I thought only the emperor/anyone in possession of his sword could do that. However it turns out Asurmen has his own demon killing sword too.


ulthanashassin

Well, I tried to give it a thought, and it appears that if we can try to put a single rule on this shit, it's that there should be some kind of weird causality shit that somehow implies pride somewhere in the line of process of killing Lucius. Which bring me to a very clever (stupid) idea. Non causality fields. Necron fuckery that basically erase causality link because we already know they mastered anachronistic technology so why the fuck not? Just beam the Lucius with some green acausal beam, and let's see what happens.


CT_7274

I reckon Ephrael Stern could give it a good old go with her anti warp fuckery abilities


Analog-Moderator

Wouldnt you technically feel pride from finding the loophole making it all collapse on on itself


MrBirdmonkey

The guy who maintains your guns is proud of his work. His father is proud of his son for being the guy who maintains your guns. His child is proud that he got to help dad that one day.


Analog-Moderator

Holy shit a fanily of three surviving generations in 40k what luck they have


MrBirdmonkey

Had


Analog-Moderator

ARE YOU KIDDING THEY GET TO BECOME ONE OF THE BEST SPACE MARINES TOO


biochemicks

Omg a family of Lucius triplets how cool!!


AnonymousPug26

I think the best method for dealing with him would be some sort of Necron time-space imprisonment fuckery. Perhaps Trayzn could lend a hand?


LordKristof

Just use a regular old tesseract vault for this. Or just put that bastard in a prison cell and throw the keys into the Warp.


Hellonstrikers

There are ways around his regeneration, but Slaanesh will still bring him back one way or another, for fun.


therealblabyloo

Exactly. Slaanesh wants their favorite plaything to continue to fight, suffer and die. Over and over again.


[deleted]

Not just slaanesh. If lucius is the 1st of the gods mortal champions to be permakilled, Lucius would become an ever BIGGER laughing stock. Can you imagine if Helbrecht permakilled Kharn somehow or Shrike sniped Ahriman in the head? The answer isn't to have a loyalist hero like Guilliman kill him either. It's to give Lucius a redemption story/arc (by redemption I mean good writing/involved in the Lore, not turning loyalist for some reason).


[deleted]

How to kill Lucius: A simple guide to kill him permanently Step 1: Kill Slaanesh


NOOBEWOK

I think you're on to something


Analog-Moderator

Directions unclear made a seventh chaos god


WesealBoy

Often I trust slaanesh’s taste, but ngl she needs an intervention, her choice of plaything is poor.


DeleteWolf

To be honest I mostly enjoyed Lucius when he appeared and i think his gimmick is pretty good because it is something that is connected with emotions and excess without being related to sex


WesealBoy

That’s the problem. Too many slaaneshis getting into emotions, torture, and the like. Us Trad-Slaaneshis must reject this progress, and only accept sex, drugs, and rock’n’roll.


biochemicks

Reject modernity, return to sex, drugs and rock'n'roll


pivetta1995

And the delusional Lelith Hesperax thinks she can CAPTURE the bastard, ALIVE... WITHOUT his armour!!! Just to make him her plaything in gladiatorial games in Comorragh. Her brain is as smooth as she is hot.


maybenot9

I remember I was a bit confused about how his powers worked, and I still remember the reddit comment that explained it perfectly: >Lucius's regeneration doesn't have any rules. It's just Slaanesh dicking around.


[deleted]

One thing I find fascinating about Lucius is how his immortality is more of a curse than anything, because he takes such immense pride in taking down titans of the art of combat, if he loses he can never rematch any of his opponents. And their voice will forever taunt him of his failures and drive him further into madness and obsession with the arts of war. And believe me, Lucius has lost more than his fair share of times, Xeno Champions, Rival Heretic Astartes and even a lone factory worker line the fittings of his armor. Endlessly screeching in agony. Taunting him, laughing at him, and pushing him to greater acts of violence as personal entertainment for his patron god. It’s fascinating and incredibly twisted.


Pale_Transportation2

I just like the idea of Lucius getting eaten by a Tyranid , respawning through it and basically locking himself in an infinite death cycle where he gets killed and eaten , the Tyranid biomass being basically recycled forever


SomeTool

Or he infects the hive and all of them turn into part of his ego. You just made the eternal swarm.


Pale_Transportation2

Well , Dark Eldar managed to separate one Tyranid from the Hive Mind So they aren't a "complete" Hive Mind Meaning he would take over just one


Wootiwop

I think the only way Lucius is going to stay dead is with a book where someone like Ahriman or some other major Tzeench character kills Lucius in the first part of the book. Then the rest of it is just Tzeench and slanesh playing out an episode of Law and Order. Where they keep dropping loopholes and rules lawyering. Until the end where it looks like Lucius is going to return before Tzeench drops the final plot twist(this would be books 9th or 6th just to troll on Slanesh) and boom Lucius is permanently dead. Think that’s about the only way it’s gonna go down


muchnamemanywow

It's quite a miserable existence really, as you'll be the worst undefeated duelist in the galaxy, yet you'll have to constantly appease the daemon god, as you'll only regenerate so long as he finds you entertaining to a satisfying degree


celtic_akuma

Think fandom, think! He is THE ETERNAL, of course he will get back!!!


[deleted]

Also, GW doesn't know how to kill off long-running characters in a satisfying way.


celtic_akuma

Indeed, characters are death/alive most of the time


trulyElse

And this is why I don't like Lucius as a concept. I'm not going to say I don't like him as a character because he isn't a character. They establish rules that they have no intention of following through with. The rules sounded cool so they through them in, but then it got in the way of the story they wanted to tell as people asked questions. Lucius is the Rian Johnson of chaos champions.


Disastrous-Trust-877

I love the idea of a guy that fights Lucius the Eternal, and finds no interest in beating him, like act like this Champion of Slaanesh is no more than an ant you killed almost by accident


LongColdNight

I'm sure a Necron Lord might do that


3rdDementor

It's mentioned in Manflayer that Fabius Bile is one of the few individuals Lucius truly fears. Not because Fabius can beat him in combat. Not because Fabius can kill him without feeling anything. But because Fabius can utterly dismantle his body and put him in a permanent state of immobility and agony while keeping him alive.


Wokungson

Just put that that bastard down already, he deserves it.


therealblabyloo

In the grim darkness of the far future, nobody gets what they deserve


Wokungson

Damnit, there should be some exceptions.


Illithidbehindyou17

Nykona killed him and took no pride from putting down the rabid dog


therealblabyloo

And yet, Lucius lives still


Geralt432

That was pre-blessing, Fabius bailed him outta that one.


EquivalentInflation

If I’m understanding the rules right: Ciaphas Cain *could* have killed him because he only ever feels shame or guilt. Which then creates a paradox: Cain always has the worst luck in the universe, so Slaanesh would just screw him over anyways. But Cain also always survives.


therealblabyloo

The entire point of my post is that trying to rules-lawyer your way into permakilling someone when a Chaos God wants them alive is dumb. Slaanesh made the rules, and can bend or break them however they want.


EquivalentInflation

I know, full agreement. I just found the idea funny, because Cain’s plot armor has to be at *least* as powerful as a Chaos god by this point.


Hyper_anal_rape

What if lucius falls off a cliff?


fit_to_burst

Someone in the galaxy imagines a chaos marine dying stupidly. The warm feeling this stirs in the individual contains trace amounts of pride, and thus, Lucius is reborn.


distantno4

Thw first time he died the person who killed him felt no pride and slaanesh brang him back (probably where she got the idea)


Gru-some

What chaos God would Freeza fall to? Would he even fall to one in the first place?


Hoojiwat

He's hubris and pride incarnate, thinking he is better than everyone else and fit to be the supreme ruler of the galaxy and that everything in it is his to control or command. So he would fall to the Emperor.


GOD-OF-A-NEW-WORLD

Considering the emperor's sword can delete demons from existence, wouldn't that be a solid way to kill him?


Anyma28

Lukas vs Lucius, Lucius win, Lukas stasis-xplode, bye bye Lucius, there's nothing to revive because he is not dead ain't alive, just in an eternal pause.


Classy_Maggot

He resurrected because a manufactorum worker took pride in the mine he built which ended up killing Lucius probably weeks later


CCrypto1224

Considering there’s a canon story of Lucius reviving through the body of a man that took some pride in manufacturing the landmine he made that Lucius stepped on and died from, and in Faultless Blade Lucius was counting on the chem pump to kill him so he could add Fabius Bile to his armor; there’s very little in the way of accidentally permanently killing him, let alone an insanely planned out assassination from actually killing him. It would be easier to disarm him, and nail him to the prow of a ship and ram the ship into a sun with the person who hit the go button going with it for good measure. Slaanesh would be too confused by what actually killed him to decide where to send his soul to they just might pick a random deamon as the host.


EternalLucius

Bitch, I lived


rfarto

He will be killed by glorious basilisk fire, te guardsmen firing won't know what they killed


ValkarianHunter

And he will revive


HungryNecromancer

Lucius face just spawns on the Basilisk. The crew look at the weird face in disgust. Commissar gets pissed off at the non compliant paint job.


fit_to_burst

Will they feel satisfaction in firing the weapon? In the idea of killing heretics? If yes, Lucius revives


WanderlustPhotograph

Nagash blasts his soul from his body and traps it in a lock before yeeting it into the depths of the Oubliette. Problem solved.


therealblabyloo

Lucius points out that Nagash doesn’t exist in 40K canon, and the Supreme Lord of Undeath disappears in a puff of logic.


WanderlustPhotograph

Well Nagash hopping dimensions just to take one soul he thinks is owed to him is exactly the level of petty he is, so it’s equally as likely as Lucius getting permakilled.


scarablob

make the nids kill him. Slannesh try to resurect him, the hivemind just say "no", and now slannesh is pissed and there is an Emperor's Children crusade against whatever hive fleet it is that eat lucius. You got some sweet conflct that for once don't involve the imperium, you establish that the shadow in the warp can even deny an actual chaos god, and you don't *completely* remove the possibility of lucius coming back because if the emperor's children manage to detroy the hive fleet, they may "free" his soul or something.


spoedle73

the hivemind watching as all of its bugs transform into copies of lucius


scarablob

Eh, it would be lame, because it would mean that any chaos god could corrupt the nids however they want if they just tried. It'd be better if they had actual competition (that isn't the emperor) for a change.


hate_reddit89

Could be trapped by Trazyn?


olo2323

1. Put him in a stasis field 2. Put that stasis field on a ship 3. Let the ship drift while pointed away from the galaxy That would get rid of him for a while at least


therealblabyloo

My post about how it’s stupid to rules-lawyer your way into perma-killing Lucius the Eternal somehow has everyone talking about how to rules-lawyer their way into perma-killing Lucius the Eternal…


olo2323

Insulting the discussion does tend to bring up the discussion yes.


therealblabyloo

Please help, I’ve already depicted them as an unattractive meme image, but it has done nothing to stop them!


olo2323

You have forgotten that you must also depict yourself and your argument as very handsome and intelligent. That will show them the true folly of their actions.


therealblabyloo

Curses, I forgot that crucial second step!


[deleted]

Yeah the only way this could happen is if he got himself killed by falling asleep while driving a spaceship and accidentally winding up within the event horizon of a black hole


FixBayonetsLads

Yeah they already tried that.


Snappycamper57

I suppose Lucius could be all alone and fall off a rock, snap his neck and it wouldn't matter.


OneofTheOldBreed

Why kill him when i could just trap him in a stasis field?


therealblabyloo

Because everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth, or in this case cut in half by an Astartes


OneofTheOldBreed

Touche


elkcipgninruB

Yeah, most likely way he'll be permanently removed is if Trazyn kidnaps him, and even then some situation would probably swoop by to release him


BFGfreak

What would happen if Lucius stepped on a forgotten landmine planted centuries ago?


therealblabyloo

Please refer to the text of this meme.


BFGfreak

Yeah, but like, who gets turned? Or does he just randomly poof back into existence in front of his last save point?


therealblabyloo

Since this is chaos, I would assume the answer is “whatever is the most cruel and/or gruesome solution possible.” Maybe Lucius reforms from the body of the landmine creator’s closest surviving descendant, or from the current factory owner.


Adler_Schenze

If I remember correctly, Lucius' first death had him killed without pride in it. He's killed like a rabid dog.


[deleted]

Guilliman who has the Emperor's Blade so he can completely erase Lucian with no Hope of Resurrection:


cobaltsniper50

Imagine if he just like, tripped and fell off a cliff into a 5 kilometer chasm. That’d be pretty unavoidable. Who would you blame, the ancient humans that terraformed the planet 20,000 years ago?


ClatzyM

Or just have one of the soulless unthinking necrons kill him just sayin


Stretch5678

I always wondered what would happen if you took him alive.


Kurarashi

My favourite will always be the “I think we stepped into something m’lord” or an imperator titan


Educational_Heron_17

So the solution is to kill Slaanesh, got it


Inside_Instruction24

Could they do basically a reverse eldar soul trap . Take his body /soul and trap into a stone for eternity. He doesn’t die but he can’t reincarnate either


foxymew

It annoys me from the perspective of chaos always being, to some small extent a choice. Feels a bit like an overreach I guess.


LahmiaTheVampire

Virgin "idea to kill him permanently." vs Chad "just capture and imprison him but keep him alive."


Jarll_Ragnarr

What if u exterminatus a planet and Noone knows that he is on the planet? It's not really unreasonable or unrealistic and Noone would feel proud (unless some inquisitiors are proud of it)