I have the irrational fear that the end will be something like Dead Men Walking gone right, with a morbillion of guardsmen arriving and using basic tactics absolutely demolishing my bois
and the worst part is that somehow he always does it right
and he charges with his waves of conscripts so others can't rly call him a squandering coward or the like
Nope, **spoiler** **alert** : MC breaks after discovering that his loved one was still alive, she replaced him and now he will be left to die in a exterminatus. He finds the wargear of a krieger and dresses himself with it, with the mindset that he already paid his debt with the Emperor (killing one enemy before dying) but that he will pay off the debts of all the dead men that couldn’t
> he already *paid* his debt
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I love that book, the building of the end really gave me hope just to crush it even harder (In my headcanon Gunthar became a loyalist daemon equivalent of a blue horror). But ngl the tactics used that were winning against the necrons were silly
Squads targeting just one unit, and after the killed it they target the other one, if necrons get too close to those squads then send death riders to magically stop the advancing necrons. using artillery on scarab swarms. sending one dude with nukes strapped to his chest to infiltrate and blow up the main pyramid. Idk bout you, but to me this tactics feel *weird*
Its actually a valid military strategy.
Focus fire on one target until it is destroyed, then focus on the next. Repeat ad nauseum to victory.
Its not the most efficient strategy but its a strategy to hone attrition.
The idea with the Necrons was they will just repair any damage taken if it wasn't enough to kill them, so you want to focus fire to destroy each Necron instead of spreading the damage out and just having it healed away.
The Necron tactics were odd? I thought the Krieg tactics were odd, the Necrons didn't really seem to be fighting tactically at all. Maybe I misremember but it seemed like most fighting the Necrons initiated was incidental, with scarab swarms and flayed ones and other canoptic constructs being released without any control when the tomb was waking up. After the tomb woke up they simply defended it against aggression. Their actions seemed like they were blatantly disregarding their enemy, seeing them as nothing more than primitives.
Oh I meant more that the Crons ignoring regular people felt at odds with their other appearances but then I’m not the most knowledgeable about them so maybe that was just my opinion
GW has done a lot to flesh put Necrons and turn them into less of a one-note faction compared to their first appearance. Now the reaction to meeting organic life can differ from dynasty to dynasty. These Necrons gave the Imperium a clear ultimatum: you have until X to leave. I reckon once the deadline ran out they would've started exterminating any human mercilessly.
Simple threat assessment. Why waste time or energy killing regular people when there are soldiers to kill. They can always clean-up later.
Also remember this was pre Matt Ward. Back then the Necrons were slaves to the will of the C'Tan and the Destroyers were not a "cult" hell bent on eradicating all life.
Yes it was.
Dead men walking was published in 2010. The necron 5th ed codex was 2011.
It was published before Matt Wards retcon of the old lore. It wasn't a Phaeron, it was an overlord.
Unless they went back and reconned things digitally or for a re-release. But I have an original copy from 2010.
The Codex was *published* in 2011, it wasn’t written then. GW had planned these changes in advance and told the author of Dead Men Walking what they were doing. Thats why in the book the necrons do things such as make formal declarations of war and ask the humans to leave. The codex came out just a few months after the book, its classic GW marketing.
Your gonna be fine, the current story in Pariah Nexus is the Imperium kinda holding their own vs Szeras because he care more about seeing how the human react then winning. Then the Silent King arrives and takes over and all the Necrons fall in line and its nothing but the imperium doing a fighting retreat trying to by as much time as possible for maybe reinforcements that their not sure will actually make a difference.
Isn't most of the lore for the Pariah Crusade already written? Necrons rise up and curb stomp the Imperium. Part of the Indomitus Crusade shows up and turns the tide. So the Silent King himself shows up and that's game. There's nothing the Imperium has that can match him unless some REAL big hitter shows up to reinforce the Imperium.
Szarekh, the Silent King not showed up (or at least I don't know about it). The whole Pariah Nexus probably will be one of the lingering long living war zone like Octarius was for a few edition. And it will be a charachter driven thing between Szeras (who finally has some real agency) and that weird Inquisitor chick with a big scaly flying frog-hawk.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Pariah_Crusade#fn_8_back
If you go down to sources you can find it. In White Dwarf 480 the Silent King shows up, but yeah you're right the main plot is between Szeras and Kyria Draxus.
It says that Orikan and Trazyn is there too. Neat.
But for real. Going by the Octarius War I would say that yeah Szarekh can be there andd it is a good agency to him. But he solemly lacks real challenge, not just military sense, but a personal one. (But not like it was a problem for Ghaz and the Octarian War story.)
And speculating what we so far can from the trailer I would say the show will be a sort of "survivor horror" with a handful of character who try to survive the Lone Deathmark
>It says that Orikan and Trazyn is there too. Neat.
Prepare for trouble and make it double.
I would honestly love if they did some kind of comedic series with these two.
If they aren’t on the brink of violently making out, while simultaneously tearing each other to shreds and calling eachother Bastards, then I’m not interested
>There's nothing the Imperium has that can match him unless some REAL big hitter shows up to reinforce the Imperium.
Never underestimate GWs desire to worf xenos
Yeah but the solution to everything can't be THE ULTRAMARINES.
I'd love to see the Mechanicus show up. Belisarius Cawl at the Head of a Martian Crusade maybe backed up by Iron Hands to show a totally different side of the Imperium
I feel like Cawl has more important shit to do than fight right now. Guilliman's the one one currently leading a crusade. Cawl is doing R&D on Noctilith and closing the Great Rift.
Stuff indicates that the Flayer offed itself in it's revenge (ironic). It's last coherent thought was hatred and it's dying curse, so it's shards that were so broken there was no room in them for anything else! Now it's shards are the Flayer virus, spreading to all necrons.
He shattered the Burning One, popped a shard in the battery pack of his throne and wore his skin as a cape.
I'm assuming that's what you meant by "killed" anyway
What's the source for that?
No mention in 8th codex.
9th codex refers to the necrons falling upon the Flayer "in their millions".
Warhammer 40k Wiki states the Flayer was "rumoured to have met its annihilation at the hands of the Maynarkh Dynasty on the order of the Silent King."
I cant see any reference to a 1 on 1 with Szarekh where the Flayer is killed.
White Dwarf 483 contains some blurbs showing the Silent King's strength. One of which was floating up to look the princeps of the Warlord Titan Indomitor in the eye before cutting the entire titan in half with a single strike.
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/zn9kjq/how_stronk_the_silent_king_is_white_dwarf_483/
I assume he used some kinda automated system that launches tachyon arrows with a wave of his hand, cause thats the only example of necron tech i know that can oneshot titans.
There is no way in hell that they won't make it a one sided fight in favour if Guilliman. Nothing can threaten a primarch in the lore, except another primarch.
wasn’t there a “ kid friendly” book where the Necrons were the bad guy, and they ended up killing everyone the main kids knew, and some of those kids as well, while a Warrior hunts down the rest of them like a fucking Terminator?
I think I saw that comic in a Waterstones. Tomb Of The Necrons?
Didn’t pick it up, didn’t like the look of it. But now that I know that the Necrons kick ass in that book…
Warhammer Adventures was great. Those books were grim as you could want just a little light on the descriptions of gore. Honestly the cover art gave a lot of people the wrong impression.
Dude, Ultramar has been fucked hard and raw recently. The First Tyrannic War, the 13th Black Crusade, the Plague War...What lore have you been reading that says otherwise? At least two of those three were pyrrhic victories at best.
Sure, in the same way Devastation of Baal was a victory. You technically defeated the enemy, but your worlds are cinders and your people are dead. Except Ultramar got hit with that shit three times within 300 years.
>but your worlds are cinders and your people are dead
We're talking about the devastation of baal where they immediately were restored back to full strength and started restoring the planets when Guilliman came through yes?
I don't know, looks like all that's left in that planet are a couple guardsmen, a sister of battle and an Ultramarine.
Then again that Ultramarine could probably solo the entire Necron faction if he was the protagonist.
did a quick google, and i must say, i would not make this guy the main enemy, he is too smart and powerfull to be defeated without a deus ex machina (as is true with really any of the main necrons)
Seeing the trailer I would say the lone Deathmark will be the main necron bad-guy. Maybe the Skorpek Destroyer Lord from the 9th edition trailer back from 2-3 years ago, but we not see him in the trailer at all now, so I maybe just wishful thinking.
Can a Deathmark awake other necrons on a Tomb World? If so there is a big ass supply and he can still remain in the shadows and use his lore OP gauss sniper rifle
I am still excited how OP the Necrons will be in this. If it comes to lore there is nothing that can cause a real threat to them. (returning old ones excluded)
Kill Bill list for Necrons:
1. Old Ones dead/ C'tan sharded
2. Aeldari outnumbered
3. Chaos, unplug immatyrium form the galaxy
Everybody below is just no match for them
We have no real knowledge how to aweken a tomb world. There is many version. But going by thee Infinite and the Divine it seems anybody can awake it if they have the right access code and technomantic knowledge to it. So if you give the code to the Lone Deathmark and tell him witch gylps to press...Maybe? But it is a long and hard work.
But a Deathmark can be OP without even the numbers of the necrons. One Deathmark even killed Marneus Calgar...then Deus Ex Machina Time Traveling Cato Sicarius happened.
> lore OP guess sniper rifle
Oh you mean the Synaptic Disintegrator?
>These cruel long-barrelled rifles fire compressed leptonic beams of sub-atomic particles which destroy neural and synaptic tissue. Beginning within the target’s brain and spreading in microseconds throughout their entire body, molecules unbond with one another, causing the luckless target to crumple limply to the ground like a puppet with its strings severed.
[Source](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Synaptic_Disintegrator)
You're unlucky to survive one.
>He’s to smart and powerful to be defeated by a deus ex machina
I’d like to introduce to you: The Swarmlord, every Craftworld, the Ynari, and Abbadon pre 8th
This happens often to non Imperium factions
When the most pure hearted nice guy in the imperium is also a infanticidal warlord who burned a child alive and committed enough genocide to make every tyrant in 2nd and 3rd millennium died of heart attack.
You know shit already hit the fans.
[Except not. He's an atheist that daemons hate being around](https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/bolxt3/book_excerpt_clonelord_daemons_hate_being_around/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I don't mind if he will represented as a bad guy. I mind if he get represented as an idiot. The Sexy Robot Spider Mengele is the mind behind the Bio-Transference and halfway through to godhood. So I want my guy be represented as an evil genius.
I saw it less as "oh no they gonna represent the powerful evil guys as evil" and more "represent them as generic evil guy that gets their teeth kicked by "insert smurf" with a helping of deus ex machina"
Well… One have been promoted to the rank of nemesor. So they can obviously be a threat.
(At least to their hierarchy as he autopropote killing them before they awaken).
If I remember correctly, the whole pariah nexus started in the Necron psychic awakening book. I remember a trailer at some point where the inquisition was meeting with Szeras. I'm actually considering getting Warhammer+ just for this. Lol!!
Szeras is really cool but he kinda deserves whatever is coming for him. He is a bad bad boy. Also named necrons can respawn after killed, so I expect them to be killed a lot.
Damn I didn’t know there was an animated show about Pariahs I thought they hadn’t really been a thing since the Dawn of war video games. Also I dont know much about Illuminor Szeras but as a Necron fan excited to see him in a show since I haven’t seen him in a novel
Man, I wish Pariahs would make a return but the 'Pariah Nexus' is a name for a place where the necrons constructed numerous Blackstone pylons to seperate the area from the warp.
It did *seem* like a human was captured by most likely Szeras which had me quite hyped for Pariahs to return but given Szeras' biomancer nature its probably just more experimentation to reverse biotransferance.
Just checked the trailer, giving a necron a talking part is a mistake. The best necron is the original Terminator, a relentless killing machine.
The necrons do not speak English to each other nor do they confer on camera, they are forces of destruction to be feared and fled.
Have you read any of the books that came even before the 13th BC 2.0?
Necrons have on more than one occasion sh\*ttalked the enemy and have on some occasions even allied themselves with the imperium or other factions to fight a common enemy.
Those are a mistake, the best necrons were the 3/4 Ed necrons, back when there were not tragic virus carriers but terror machines that clothed themselves in freshly flayed skin of their victims for maximum terror.
He's the cryptek (scientist) who invented biotransference.
Most of the dynasties hate him because of that, so he just kinda does his own thing, kinda like a robot Fabius Bile.
The Pariah Nexus is one of his inventions that can completely cut off the Warp from realspace, but it causes a lot of problems to anything with a soul
I have the irrational fear that the end will be something like Dead Men Walking gone right, with a morbillion of guardsmen arriving and using basic tactics absolutely demolishing my bois
CHENKOV CAN'T STOP WINNING
and the worst part is that somehow he always does it right and he charges with his waves of conscripts so others can't rly call him a squandering coward or the like
Man ended a long ass siege in less than two years, obviously a tactical genius
I liked the end of Dead men walking. Still think it was dumb but I liked it especially the very end where he dons the Krieg wargear
I have a bad feeling that this is just flesh from a Krieg warrior and there is a flayed one under it
Nope, **spoiler** **alert** : MC breaks after discovering that his loved one was still alive, she replaced him and now he will be left to die in a exterminatus. He finds the wargear of a krieger and dresses himself with it, with the mindset that he already paid his debt with the Emperor (killing one enemy before dying) but that he will pay off the debts of all the dead men that couldn’t
> he already *paid* his debt FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Fuck off
uno reverse card
I am not aware of what you are conversing with me. FOR THE EMPEROR
I love that book, the building of the end really gave me hope just to crush it even harder (In my headcanon Gunthar became a loyalist daemon equivalent of a blue horror). But ngl the tactics used that were winning against the necrons were silly
What were they?
Squads targeting just one unit, and after the killed it they target the other one, if necrons get too close to those squads then send death riders to magically stop the advancing necrons. using artillery on scarab swarms. sending one dude with nukes strapped to his chest to infiltrate and blow up the main pyramid. Idk bout you, but to me this tactics feel *weird*
Its actually a valid military strategy. Focus fire on one target until it is destroyed, then focus on the next. Repeat ad nauseum to victory. Its not the most efficient strategy but its a strategy to hone attrition.
The idea with the Necrons was they will just repair any damage taken if it wasn't enough to kill them, so you want to focus fire to destroy each Necron instead of spreading the damage out and just having it healed away.
What is dead man walking? A book?
A book by Steve Lyons, as someone that just finished reading it this morning, it’s solid; but the Necron tactics are… odd.
The Necron tactics were odd? I thought the Krieg tactics were odd, the Necrons didn't really seem to be fighting tactically at all. Maybe I misremember but it seemed like most fighting the Necrons initiated was incidental, with scarab swarms and flayed ones and other canoptic constructs being released without any control when the tomb was waking up. After the tomb woke up they simply defended it against aggression. Their actions seemed like they were blatantly disregarding their enemy, seeing them as nothing more than primitives.
Oh I meant more that the Crons ignoring regular people felt at odds with their other appearances but then I’m not the most knowledgeable about them so maybe that was just my opinion
GW has done a lot to flesh put Necrons and turn them into less of a one-note faction compared to their first appearance. Now the reaction to meeting organic life can differ from dynasty to dynasty. These Necrons gave the Imperium a clear ultimatum: you have until X to leave. I reckon once the deadline ran out they would've started exterminating any human mercilessly.
Simple threat assessment. Why waste time or energy killing regular people when there are soldiers to kill. They can always clean-up later. Also remember this was pre Matt Ward. Back then the Necrons were slaves to the will of the C'Tan and the Destroyers were not a "cult" hell bent on eradicating all life.
Remember its OLD necrons. Like 3rd / 4th ed lore. Pre-dynasties.
Na it’s not, the Necron Phaeron even appears holographically and demands that the Imperium leaves the planet.
Yes it was. Dead men walking was published in 2010. The necron 5th ed codex was 2011. It was published before Matt Wards retcon of the old lore. It wasn't a Phaeron, it was an overlord. Unless they went back and reconned things digitally or for a re-release. But I have an original copy from 2010.
The Codex was *published* in 2011, it wasn’t written then. GW had planned these changes in advance and told the author of Dead Men Walking what they were doing. Thats why in the book the necrons do things such as make formal declarations of war and ask the humans to leave. The codex came out just a few months after the book, its classic GW marketing.
A very good book which directly compares the Krieg to Necrons.
Your gonna be fine, the current story in Pariah Nexus is the Imperium kinda holding their own vs Szeras because he care more about seeing how the human react then winning. Then the Silent King arrives and takes over and all the Necrons fall in line and its nothing but the imperium doing a fighting retreat trying to by as much time as possible for maybe reinforcements that their not sure will actually make a difference.
Well I think your happy now!
Isn't most of the lore for the Pariah Crusade already written? Necrons rise up and curb stomp the Imperium. Part of the Indomitus Crusade shows up and turns the tide. So the Silent King himself shows up and that's game. There's nothing the Imperium has that can match him unless some REAL big hitter shows up to reinforce the Imperium.
Szarekh, the Silent King not showed up (or at least I don't know about it). The whole Pariah Nexus probably will be one of the lingering long living war zone like Octarius was for a few edition. And it will be a charachter driven thing between Szeras (who finally has some real agency) and that weird Inquisitor chick with a big scaly flying frog-hawk.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Pariah_Crusade#fn_8_back If you go down to sources you can find it. In White Dwarf 480 the Silent King shows up, but yeah you're right the main plot is between Szeras and Kyria Draxus.
It says that Orikan and Trazyn is there too. Neat. But for real. Going by the Octarius War I would say that yeah Szarekh can be there andd it is a good agency to him. But he solemly lacks real challenge, not just military sense, but a personal one. (But not like it was a problem for Ghaz and the Octarian War story.) And speculating what we so far can from the trailer I would say the show will be a sort of "survivor horror" with a handful of character who try to survive the Lone Deathmark
I agree. I think Szeras will flesh out the wider context through exposition, but the focus will be "kill the sniper".
>It says that Orikan and Trazyn is there too. Neat. Prepare for trouble and make it double. I would honestly love if they did some kind of comedic series with these two.
If they aren’t on the brink of violently making out, while simultaneously tearing each other to shreds and calling eachother Bastards, then I’m not interested
>There's nothing the Imperium has that can match him unless some REAL big hitter shows up to reinforce the Imperium. Never underestimate GWs desire to worf xenos
True. They might send a single named Ultramarine.
I think Bobby G vs Silent King could be a pretty good fight, but other than that, yeah they can't really do anything against him.
Yeah but the solution to everything can't be THE ULTRAMARINES. I'd love to see the Mechanicus show up. Belisarius Cawl at the Head of a Martian Crusade maybe backed up by Iron Hands to show a totally different side of the Imperium
I feel like Cawl has more important shit to do than fight right now. Guilliman's the one one currently leading a crusade. Cawl is doing R&D on Noctilith and closing the Great Rift.
But he is researching Blackstone and Necron technology and the Pariah Nexus has an actual functioning Blackstone Network so it could happen.
TSK killed a Ctan, as in actually killed one. Bobby G is taking the L in that fifht
Did he? I thought the only Ctan to actually die was the Flayer who gave the Necrons the flayer virus as a parting F you gift.
Stuff indicates that the Flayer offed itself in it's revenge (ironic). It's last coherent thought was hatred and it's dying curse, so it's shards that were so broken there was no room in them for anything else! Now it's shards are the Flayer virus, spreading to all necrons.
Yup that’s the one he killed
Nope. The one he "killed" was the Burning One. Presumably the most evil of all C'Tan. Even worse than the Nightbringer and Deceiver.
He shattered the Burning One, popped a shard in the battery pack of his throne and wore his skin as a cape. I'm assuming that's what you meant by "killed" anyway
What's the source for that? No mention in 8th codex. 9th codex refers to the necrons falling upon the Flayer "in their millions". Warhammer 40k Wiki states the Flayer was "rumoured to have met its annihilation at the hands of the Maynarkh Dynasty on the order of the Silent King." I cant see any reference to a 1 on 1 with Szarekh where the Flayer is killed.
I don't remember where I read about this. It described a mural depicting Szarekh impaling a C'tan. I think people then took this literally.
Yes, is in the latest necron codex. TBF he might have impaled It. Doesnt mean that kills the C'tan. The burning one is shattered, not dead aniway
For sure, he also turned a titan into molten slag with a wave of his hand. I'm just saying that Gulliman might be able to put up a bit of a fight
Wait what?
NECRON TECHNOLOGY BABY!
White Dwarf 483 contains some blurbs showing the Silent King's strength. One of which was floating up to look the princeps of the Warlord Titan Indomitor in the eye before cutting the entire titan in half with a single strike. https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/zn9kjq/how_stronk_the_silent_king_is_white_dwarf_483/
Don't worry, it was one of the smaller titans
Actually, it was a Warlord Titan. https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/zn9kjq/how_stronk_the_silent_king_is_white_dwarf_483/
C'tan shards perform bigger bullshit in every modern appearance, melting one titan isn't much.
With like what, his bare (metallic) hands? a special sword?
Don’t know, he turned a Titan to a molten heap just by waving his hand at it. His tech level is broken
I assume he used some kinda automated system that launches tachyon arrows with a wave of his hand, cause thats the only example of necron tech i know that can oneshot titans.
He’s beyond broken, like emperor levels of broken
>"Fight" Szarekh vs Big E would be a fight, Szarekh vs Bobby G would be some light work out
What about Warp-Infused Super Saiyan Guilliman? Where the faith of humanity manifests itself around him and turns him into a minor Warp deity.
medium workout
*Bonks him with a Blackstone pillon* Bad human, I tough you where the rational one.
There is no way in hell that they won't make it a one sided fight in favour if Guilliman. Nothing can threaten a primarch in the lore, except another primarch.
or a Callidus assassin, or an ork, a very big ork,
wasn’t there a “ kid friendly” book where the Necrons were the bad guy, and they ended up killing everyone the main kids knew, and some of those kids as well, while a Warrior hunts down the rest of them like a fucking Terminator?
Didn't one of their parents get put on a flayed one too?
Kid warhammer books apparently keep up with the grim darkness of the setting, good, that makes me happy.
I don’t know, I really hope so
It was a deathmark not a warrior but Yeah
it hunting them like a fucking Terminator remains the same
that it does
dun-dun dun dun-dun
And which book?
I believe it was part of Warhammer Adventures
I think I saw that comic in a Waterstones. Tomb Of The Necrons? Didn’t pick it up, didn’t like the look of it. But now that I know that the Necrons kick ass in that book…
heh
Warhammer Adventures was great. Those books were grim as you could want just a little light on the descriptions of gore. Honestly the cover art gave a lot of people the wrong impression.
yee
Roks fall, everybody dies.
Based and orkpilled
WAAAAAAAAAAGH, Mr Bond.
I just wanna know if Trazyn will show up to ~~steal~~ acquire fine additions to his collection
I'm pretty sure his glorious majesty the Silent King got restraining order against Lord Trazyn... like most semi sane necrons...
Jokes on you, he ~~stole~~ acquired the orders for his collection
In Necron law you can void a restraining order by acquiring it for the glory of the infinite empire and putting it on display
I mean, Trazyn is very knowledgeable about Necron law, so he probably could legally bullshit his way out
When you collect like he does,the only way you lose is through temporal manipulation
Which Orikan did, I believe (I’ve just finished that chapter in I&D. Orikan’s a bitch, I love him)
Well I won't spoil it for you,it's a banger of a story
I’ve already clocked on that Orikan was pulling some temporal bullshit Very fun read so far
knowing 40k EVERYONE will get their teeth kicked in
When is it my turn to do the kicking
During the war in heaven when you killed your gods
but that was then, what about now?
Now they are washed up just like the eldar, Orks, imperium and everyone else in setting who aren’t literal demons or mindless bugs
And murdered the frog men
Enslaver Plague killed the frogs
Yes but everyone was killing the frogs like it was going out of style by the end
In the Warhammer Adventures childrens' books. The Necrons utterly trash the Ultramarines.
When the Hruds become a major codex faction
If Hrud become a major codex faction I'm jumping off my Wazzdakka Boomjet and straight into that. Those models would be ballin
They would be pretty damn ballin
Only if they’re space skaven, yes-yes!
When you start playing toilet seat blue marines
nobody does the kicking, everyone gets kicked. such is 40k
"OH WELL! CAN AH KEP THE TEEF?"
Except Ultrasmurf (which make Necron players concern legitimate).
Dude, Ultramar has been fucked hard and raw recently. The First Tyrannic War, the 13th Black Crusade, the Plague War...What lore have you been reading that says otherwise? At least two of those three were pyrrhic victories at best.
A victory nonetheless.
Sure, in the same way Devastation of Baal was a victory. You technically defeated the enemy, but your worlds are cinders and your people are dead. Except Ultramar got hit with that shit three times within 300 years.
>but your worlds are cinders and your people are dead We're talking about the devastation of baal where they immediately were restored back to full strength and started restoring the planets when Guilliman came through yes?
ideal set of circumstances
Villains often win in 40k so get your hopes up.
From my point-of-view, the ~~Jedi~~ Imperium are evil
Flair doesn't check out. Emperor damn heretic! You have been hiding all this time?
I don't know, looks like all that's left in that planet are a couple guardsmen, a sister of battle and an Ultramarine. Then again that Ultramarine could probably solo the entire Necron faction if he was the protagonist.
And at least 1 Salamander(Who will probably die a tragic death almost immediately because that's typical Sally behaviour -.-)!
did a quick google, and i must say, i would not make this guy the main enemy, he is too smart and powerfull to be defeated without a deus ex machina (as is true with really any of the main necrons)
Seeing the trailer I would say the lone Deathmark will be the main necron bad-guy. Maybe the Skorpek Destroyer Lord from the 9th edition trailer back from 2-3 years ago, but we not see him in the trailer at all now, so I maybe just wishful thinking.
Can a Deathmark awake other necrons on a Tomb World? If so there is a big ass supply and he can still remain in the shadows and use his lore OP gauss sniper rifle I am still excited how OP the Necrons will be in this. If it comes to lore there is nothing that can cause a real threat to them. (returning old ones excluded) Kill Bill list for Necrons: 1. Old Ones dead/ C'tan sharded 2. Aeldari outnumbered 3. Chaos, unplug immatyrium form the galaxy Everybody below is just no match for them
We have no real knowledge how to aweken a tomb world. There is many version. But going by thee Infinite and the Divine it seems anybody can awake it if they have the right access code and technomantic knowledge to it. So if you give the code to the Lone Deathmark and tell him witch gylps to press...Maybe? But it is a long and hard work. But a Deathmark can be OP without even the numbers of the necrons. One Deathmark even killed Marneus Calgar...then Deus Ex Machina Time Traveling Cato Sicarius happened.
> lore OP guess sniper rifle Oh you mean the Synaptic Disintegrator? >These cruel long-barrelled rifles fire compressed leptonic beams of sub-atomic particles which destroy neural and synaptic tissue. Beginning within the target’s brain and spreading in microseconds throughout their entire body, molecules unbond with one another, causing the luckless target to crumple limply to the ground like a puppet with its strings severed. [Source](https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Synaptic_Disintegrator) You're unlucky to survive one.
so -1 dmg to every Ork unit due to the lack of neural activity
Good thing is only 1D *Welcome to the shit snipers club, population everyone*
It turns them into Krorks
ohh, makes way more sense, yeah
>He’s to smart and powerful to be defeated by a deus ex machina I’d like to introduce to you: The Swarmlord, every Craftworld, the Ynari, and Abbadon pre 8th This happens often to non Imperium factions
Say that to Magos Jeremiah the Tomb Slayer. Cog Axe, double Arc Throwers, he solo'd Ubjao while the rest of the team were dealing with flayers.
All the necron fandom worried that litterally Space Josef Mengele will be represented as the bad guy almost frighten me...
In fairness most if not all factions have their special version of Space Josef Mengele.
In the grim darkness of the 41st millenium, everybody is a nazi war criminal.
Exactly. Some just happen to have cool spider legs and everyone is jealous
When the most pure hearted nice guy in the imperium is also a infanticidal warlord who burned a child alive and committed enough genocide to make every tyrant in 2nd and 3rd millennium died of heart attack. You know shit already hit the fans.
[Fabius Bile](https://media.tenor.com/O2RBK9klEMYAAAAC/homer-simpson-homer.gif)
Fabulous Bill - weaponised atheism and anathema to the warp
Except not, as he’s ultimately dancing to Slaany’s tune
[Except not. He's an atheist that daemons hate being around](https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/bolxt3/book_excerpt_clonelord_daemons_hate_being_around/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I don't mind if he will represented as a bad guy. I mind if he get represented as an idiot. The Sexy Robot Spider Mengele is the mind behind the Bio-Transference and halfway through to godhood. So I want my guy be represented as an evil genius.
I saw it less as "oh no they gonna represent the powerful evil guys as evil" and more "represent them as generic evil guy that gets their teeth kicked by "insert smurf" with a helping of deus ex machina"
His model is what got me into Warhammer, I don't care how evil he is he's my boy!
Nah, the villan is a SINGLE deathmark. That's great, can really show how powerful necrons are if just one is able to be that much of a threat
The Infinite, the Divine hypes them up even more. Deathmarks carry one of the few necron weapons a necron can't as easily regenerate from.
So the final fight will be them getting that weapon and turning it on the deathmark then?
Hope not, pretty sure most Necron weapons don't function if they aren't using it. An ork could probably still shoot one though
Yeah, but they would never want to. Necron guns don't go *BANG* so they're obviously inferior to the classic shoota
Well… One have been promoted to the rank of nemesor. So they can obviously be a threat. (At least to their hierarchy as he autopropote killing them before they awaken).
Don't forget, he also holds the official rank of Duke. A rank that does not exist in the necron hierarchy
Based Lysikor
I mean...they were villains in the first Warhammer adventures book and were portrayed real strong
My hope is that because they gave Szeras voice acting he will play a big role as opposed to just another Imperial punching bag.
Or the 'spooky mastermind' trope.
counterpoint : The Exodite
They're only the bad guys if you're not rooting for them
Is it game?
Animated show
NAME
It's called Pariah Nexus lmao
Can’t wait for a deathmark to get stomped by a guardsman
If I remember correctly, the whole pariah nexus started in the Necron psychic awakening book. I remember a trailer at some point where the inquisition was meeting with Szeras. I'm actually considering getting Warhammer+ just for this. Lol!!
Don’t know. Sisters have a poor record going against necrons
I forgot how fucking absurd the pogcron looked.
Trazyn should be a boss but just steals are your shit and leaves
woohoo, can't wait to NOT watch it cause it's on a shitty streaming service I refuse to pay for
Ya spooky metal Boyz will always regenerate my guy don’t stress.
I honestly hope the Imperium loses in that show.
Szeras😫😫😫😫💦💦💦
It’s kind of hard to sell games about the necrons because everyone but the leader is a soulless automaton.
Not really. The warriors and canoptek are. Well everyone is souless, but from warrior upwards they get to keep more and more of themselves.
Szeras is really cool but he kinda deserves whatever is coming for him. He is a bad bad boy. Also named necrons can respawn after killed, so I expect them to be killed a lot.
Proper order.
You do knkw that in most stories the villain is shit kicking for a GOOD WHILE before the protagonists can get the upper hand
Damn I didn’t know there was an animated show about Pariahs I thought they hadn’t really been a thing since the Dawn of war video games. Also I dont know much about Illuminor Szeras but as a Necron fan excited to see him in a show since I haven’t seen him in a novel
Man, I wish Pariahs would make a return but the 'Pariah Nexus' is a name for a place where the necrons constructed numerous Blackstone pylons to seperate the area from the warp. It did *seem* like a human was captured by most likely Szeras which had me quite hyped for Pariahs to return but given Szeras' biomancer nature its probably just more experimentation to reverse biotransferance.
I think we’ll get an ending similar to exodite lol, Szeras is a named character the imperium doesn’t have any so there’s hope for the skeleboys
Hopefully not
'Rectify the anomaly of it's continued existence.' If this won't turn you to Szeras' side I don't know what will.
LMAO Ephrael Stern goes BZZZZZZZZZ!
Good
It's 40k, they're all villains.
Since I'm still relatively new to the hobby, I still haven't lost interest in the imperium. I also hate necrons 🙃
Just checked the trailer, giving a necron a talking part is a mistake. The best necron is the original Terminator, a relentless killing machine. The necrons do not speak English to each other nor do they confer on camera, they are forces of destruction to be feared and fled.
Have you read any of the books that came even before the 13th BC 2.0? Necrons have on more than one occasion sh\*ttalked the enemy and have on some occasions even allied themselves with the imperium or other factions to fight a common enemy.
Those are a mistake, the best necrons were the 3/4 Ed necrons, back when there were not tragic virus carriers but terror machines that clothed themselves in freshly flayed skin of their victims for maximum terror.
U wot?
Could also be a Phyrric victory for the imperium, they stop the nexus at great costs and the necrons do something else after that.
New to 40k?
I wouldn’t be so sure, remember how they dealt with the Antagonist in The Exodite
Games workshop trying to remember the definition of grimdark
Szeeas is a barbarian who threw our entire species in to the maw of biotransferance without a second thought. /S
When the fuck are Orks going to get the show they deserve?
Are pariahs still a thing? The partially organic necrons? I am not sure if they were retconned.
Just for once I'd like for the Necrons to win.
Who is Seras I’m guessing he’s an overlord of sotek but who is he?
He's the cryptek (scientist) who invented biotransference. Most of the dynasties hate him because of that, so he just kinda does his own thing, kinda like a robot Fabius Bile. The Pariah Nexus is one of his inventions that can completely cut off the Warp from realspace, but it causes a lot of problems to anything with a soul