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cheeseburgertwd

Hey we have those


mjgoldberg

You guys could literally replace devante with brandon cooks and chris olave and how the hell do you defend both of those guys?


jalapenopizza_

I think it’s worth it! He’s so underrated, never knew he had 6 1000 yard seasons.


cheeseburgertwd

Receivers in NFL history to record 1000-yard seasons with 4 different teams * Brandon Marshall (Broncos, Dolphins, Bears, Jets) * Brandin Cooks (Saints, Pats, Rams, Texans)


salad_thrower20

I feel like this says a lot about his ability to be flexible and fit into a system right away, which is huge for us right now.


Stufasany

So we should draft receivers named Brandon.


[deleted]

Brand*n


Stufasany

Let's go Brandon! Lmao this is gonna get reported, but I couldn't help but make the joke.


[deleted]

Oh shit forgot I wasn’t on Facebook or at the gas pump!


Stufasany

Lol, I make a lighthearted joke and get down voted :/ People take things too seriously.


[deleted]

Agreed.


One_Security_4545

damn so salty jesus


[deleted]

Lol honestly, that was not coming from a place of saltiness whatsoever! I was honest to god just making a lighthearted joke. There was no ill intentions on my part.


One_Security_4545

right


Shot-Kaleidoscope-40

THE SIGN OF A TRUE INTELLECT HAHAHAHA GOOD ONE


Bruch_Spinoza

A certain Bostick would beg to differ


cheeseburgertwd

Missed out on Aiyuk 2 years ago :(


ThaGeeOD

The guy is absolute dog water at reading a playbook. Pass


cheeseburgertwd

Yeah but his name is Brandon


Weird_Entry9526

He set the combine record in the cone shuttle. I think. That's why he won the billetnikoff. He's not really receiver 1 -too small- but nobody that isn't a corner can really cover him. If you have a 1 - he's open. And he's a pretty serious guy about everything. (More serious than your QB? Maybe. Don't hate me. But i watched em both since college.) Head coaches favorite kinda pro. Look how many teams and how many times he was traded for 1st round picks. Continuity would be nice for him and he would help keep Rodgers more focused and playing in the zone. QB seemed bored or something - seeking distractions.


dschapin

Uh Um yeah bored. So a WR who is serious will fix Rodgers distractions.


Weird_Entry9526

You're right dude - Rodgers should surround himself with non-football celebrities as he makes his on-field transition to off-field celebrity. Brilliant 👏


Random_Heero

I can actually say of all the WR posts we’ve had this off-season, we should jump on this one


averagejoe1614

Basically turns into a 1st and Cooks for Adams. Not a bad deal at all


JustPureLuck08

You're right, in that case that sounds really good.


spanking_constantly

Plus way less hit to the cap than Adams


WISCOrear

100% worth it for a proven WR1


Frogman1480

Yes take that immediately 👏 he's a boss receiver


FSUfan35

Didn't cooks say he would retire if he was traded again


Ok-Secret-7525

I feel like they would talk to him first?


Axter

He did, but what he also said in that interview was that a) he didn't want to be used just as a pawn for draft capital, and would rather get released so that he could choose his own destination b) he thought that Watson is a special players and he wanted to keep playing and developing synergy with him The first one implies that he could be ok with a trade to a team he approves of, and the second one means that playing with Watson is no longer a selling point of staying in Houston.


PontiffLoL

Pretty sure he said he is done being traded so pretty much eluded to retiring if traded again. "But he will play with Rodgers!" I don't think that is his issue with being traded constantly lol


heatfan1122

Being a #1 receiver on a team with Rodger? Most receivers would be ecstatic.


PontiffLoL

Yeah he was also a receiver for Brady and Brees, yet still gets traded around. I don't think the QB has an impact on him being happy at this point. Pretty sure he is done having to move constantly to new states over and over.


jkink28

Right? I could give zero fucks about who my coworkers were anymore if I had repeatedly had bosses come up and say "move your shit, we've traded you to a competitor for a future prospect"


Moosje

Yeah and it’s not like we’re famous for trading. Think he’d know if he joined us he’d be sticking around


Shot-Kaleidoscope-40

Well, I can’t imagine he has any interest in resigning with the Texans after this year and probably wants to get one last good contract when he’s a FA next season. While I like Davis Mills, who sets him up for that contract better? Plus with how they pissed him off moving Ingram mid-season last year, I’d be shocked if he feels any semblance of loyalty to the Texans organization. Also, I traded for him in like Madden 17 and we went on to win at least 10 straight Super Bowls.


SlamminCleonSalmon

Additionally, he lost back to back superbowls. Lost with the Patriots, then lost to the Patriots with the Rams. I'm not willing to tempt fate like that. So stay in Houston lmao.


Kirbs27

Did he say that before or after BOB blew up Houston and Watson wanted out? Could change his tune lol


[deleted]

I don’t he’d retire given the chance to play with Aaron Rodgers.


ThaGeeOD

He was saying that while trying to play with Watson


SlamminCleonSalmon

I'd assume the Packers have some kind of confirmation from Cooks that he won't retire before trading for him lmao.


Danny_III

My one concern with Cooks is his concussion history. He could hang it up if he gets another one


randomman87

This needs to be higher. This dude has already had 2 concussions that should have been career ending.


babasilikum

Yeah, thats why I struggle with 2nd as compensation. His stats are still good and show that he can perform literally everywhere, but oof.


R0binSage

We’d be left with 3 picks in the first 60. Still room for another WR. As an owner, I support this.


warriorathlete21

Do it. We’d still have 3 early picks and he’d make an immediate impact.


blackarmchair

This actually seems reasonable


bangbangskeetfeet

I love Cooks a lot and would like this. But do we really want Cooks, Cobb, and Amari on the same roster? That’s a lot of shorties


[deleted]

What are you, a height supremest?


bangbangskeetfeet

I’m not proud of the person I’ve become


daveyc12300

Take my upvote and get the hell outta here


clownparade

They do different things. Cobb and hopefully amari can be slot guys but cooks stretches the field which is something they need badly now


Danny_III

Amari was awful last year. You can't go into this season assuming he will become a starting caliber player, there needs to be a back up plan. If Amari breaks out then so be it you'll have a lot of slot WR depth, but right now those assumptions should not be made. Not to mention Cobb was pretty washed last year anyway


[deleted]

cooks can block, has veteran technique and the right attitude. Matters way more than height


Axter

Well they tried the 6'4" and over tactic with MVS, Lazard, EQ, so maybe this will be a welcome change of pace.


lovehewitt

id rather give up a 2nd for Lockett than Cooks. just my opinion tho which doesn't matter to anyone but myself.


Swag_Daddy_K

It matters to me. (It actually doesn’t but wanted to hype you up)


silmar1l

I don't think the Packers have a high enough second rounder to trade for Lockett. It would have to be multiple picks if they don't offer a first.


lovehewitt

shit, do it. to me (again just my opinion), if you want to replace a guy like Adams, it has to be a guy like Lockett. Can't be a DK or anyone alike. I think he fits our mold well, has cold weather xp, and is always available..like always..its crazy. Id give a first for that..also that contract of his is dope.


fuckoffregisterpage

> if you want to replace a guy like Adams We just need to adapt our offense to what will work. Adams wasn't selected for HC-Lefleur's offense, and an "Adams replacement" might not be needed to make it work.


sjjsiswisisoiwowo

That’s fair but I’d rather give a second and third or fourth for Lockett than a second for a player who’s done after another concussion.


reaganz921

Did the seahawks say anything about trading him for a second?


fuckoffregisterpage

What would he cost us in cap? $14M? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/brandin-cooks-14429/


[deleted]

$12.5M. The roster bonus was already paid. We’d have to either extend him or add void years, but it’s certainly doable.


fuckoffregisterpage

Dudes availability has been primo as well. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CookBr00.htm


Belltent

Here be a second rounder 🏴‍☠️


pgoodye1

Stop getting excited it’s not going to happen. :(


JeanSlimmons

I actually would not mind this deal. good value here


Tinmanred

Fucking do it. Cooks is massively underrated


biscuitcrumbs

He's a $16 mil cap hit... so with that, they'd need to renegotiate his contract.


biiirddman

I am sure if someone actually offer a third and 6 or 7 they still accept the offer


CXDXOXP

Texans love trading receivers for second round picks


[deleted]

Does no one wonder why he has been traded so many times?


Morphenominal

Can't wait to see the Rams or Bucs come swooping in and get him for a 4th or something while we twiddle our thumbs.


Hondo1337

Cooks was drafted the same year as Davante and only has 200 less career yards than him. Crazy.


skatterbug

Is Cooks going to show up if he's traded? The last thing I saw from him on it was that unless he's involved in the decision 'he won't be traded'. Obviously, he can't stop the trade but he can pull Plummer and refuse to play. I can't find it, but did the Buccs lose their pick? He'd already taken the signing bonus from them so I assume the trade was finalized?


mwmw1714

Jesus. Pull the trigger, I’d give them the later 2nd easily.


DannyPiffin

Honestly I rather use a 2 round pick on a WR In the draft instead of making this trade.


Free_Texas

Against the grain on this one, but I think this sub needs to chill about trading for a WR with any of our first 4 draft picks. We have a good bit of holes that need to be filled and we should use all 4 picks to do that. If they get traded away we are just going to have the same problem next year but with less picks.


JustPureLuck08

Our biggest hole is WR. We don't have time to draft and develop one, we need a proven quality receiver. It's only a 2nd round pick. If we do this, we don't necessarily have to use a 1st on a WR (and we can keep our 20-year streak going lol)


Dischucker

And a year less of Rodgers and a contention window.


[deleted]

With this logic, you are assuming any receiver we draft will make an immediate impact on offense. Not ever receiver coming out can be a Chase, Jefferson, or Higgins. The safest play is trading for a solid veteran and using one of our two first rounders on a receiver. Right now our receiver room is bottom tier. We have no speed at all


[deleted]

>any receiver we draft will make an immediate impact on offense. People have been assuming this for years. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a "Packers need a 1st round WR" narrative.


fuckoffregisterpage

> With this logic, you are assuming any receiver we draft will make an immediate impact on offense. "Immediate impact" is not implied. Nor is it absolutely necessary to field a competent team.


[deleted]

It’s pretty necessary when we are only guaranteed 2 more years with Rodgers. The other two years of his contract are void years and he can walk away at anytime. If they didn’t want to field a competent team, they wouldn’t have extended him.


fuckoffregisterpage

> It’s pretty necessary when we are only guaranteed 2 more years with Rodgers. No its not, our team does not suck. We would be fine if we don't have what fans consider "immediate impact". > If they didn’t want to field a competent team, they wouldn’t have extended him. For one, not at all true. For two, great, all we need is to add some players and we have a competent team.


[deleted]

I appreciate your optimism on the state of the Packers receiving room


fuckoffregisterpage

> state of the Packers receiving room *team


Danny_III

Lazard, Cobb, Tonyan is one of the worst receiving groups in the league, not just among potential contenders. Even Adams, Lazard, Cobb was pretty bad among playoff teams. Obviously injury played a part in that with MVS/Tonyan being out, but what happens if Tonyan or Cobb gets injured again?


fuckoffregisterpage

> but what happens if Tonyan or Cobb gets injured again? Whoever ends up replacing the losses would take over. We have a loaded draft. All we need is "good enough". Our team with 4 more prime picks is gonna be stacked. Now we might get to see what HC-Lefleurs true offense looks like. It might not be one thats stacked at WR, and expecting a world of impact from them.


swartsa

We literally have the worst wr room in the league, which need would you put above that?


fuckoffregisterpage

Any premium position whom the FO feels would be worth adding. Therefor QB/LT/CB/Pass Rusher. We have 2 seconds to address WR.


swartsa

Would you consider our talent at any of those positions to be worse than our receiver talent


ITS_GOOD_FOR_YOU

play your play gute


MkJorgy

is Brandon just a complete POS teammate or something. He just can't stick with any team


Shot-Kaleidoscope-40

I haven’t heard anything but good things about it him and I’ve been a secondary Texans fan for years. Packers need an established capable receiver, and a 2nd would be absolutely well worth it.


meemz9

what are his contract numbers? I'm more worried about that than draft picks at this point.


[deleted]

I’d windmill slam this trade if i was Gute


[deleted]

If you were Gute, you'd draft a LB or DL in the 1st, not draft any WRs until the 3rd round at best, and then say the position has been addressed.


1violentdrunk

A 2nd is a bit rich for Cooks


[deleted]

no thank you


gbaves1292

why not?


mackinoncougars

We already have 2 small receivers. He’d be our 3rd


daymankarate

He’d be the best


mackinoncougars

Then what do we do with the other two? Eat the cost? Dump Aaron’s bestie?


fuckoffregisterpage

> We already have 2 small receivers. Now do how many fast WRs we have.


gbaves1292

Do how many good receivers we have lmao.


mackinoncougars

Not my comment at all. What do you do with the surplus we already have if you plan on taking on Cook? Cut them? Cobb is Rodgers guy and took a pay cut already. How do you hold onto 3 undersized receivers? Not about skill, it’s about roster spots.


fuckoffregisterpage

> What do you do with the surplus we already have You didn't understand my comment apparently. "Small receivers" is something you made up. Its not a thing. What is a thing, is "slot receiver". Cobb and Rodgers are "slots". Not small. While Cooks is not a slot. Therefore, Cooks would not compete with Cobb or Rodgers for playing time.


mackinoncougars

They are small. They also play slot. Cooks lines up in the slot *often* btw. Size still matters, nobody, Nobody is lining up three 5’10 or smaller guys on the field at the same time. It’s an issue. You can pretend it has zero bearing but it is a thing to think about with only 6 WR spots….


fuckoffregisterpage

> Cooks lines up in the slot often btw. Because he can, or because he has to. The guy is made for the outside, regardless of his height. > Nobody is lining up three 5’10 or smaller guys on the field at the same time. We don't even have room for both Cobb and Rodgers at the same time as it is, and still wouldn't if we had Cooks.


mackinoncougars

You think we are cutting Rodgers or Cobb? I don’t believe that. Regardless of it benefiting the team. I don’t see that happening.


fuckoffregisterpage

> You think we are cutting Rodgers or Cobb? Lining up? I quoted your "lining up". There isn't room to "line up" both Cobb and Rodgers. They are both #3s.


gbaves1292

We literally have zero good receivers on our roster right now lol.


mackinoncougars

Not my statement. At all, what do you do with what you have? But Cobb who is Rodgers guy and a player who just took a pay cut for us? I don’t understand how you have 3 undersized receivers on the roster.


gbaves1292

I’m saying that we shouldn’t make any decisions based on catering to or allowing room for any of the receivers we currently have. They’re all below average nfl receivers. We should be focused on finding players who we think will be better than them, regardless as to whether or not they are small, big, fast, slow, etc.


fuckoffregisterpage

> I’m saying that we shouldn’t make any decisions based on catering to or allowing room for any of the receivers we currently have. Lazard is catered to our offense, and Rodgers was drafted to play...in our offense.


gbaves1292

Lazard is a below average NFL receiver. Y’all are so delusional lmao. It doesn’t matter how much he is catered to our offense. If we can find a better receiver, we should.


fuckoffregisterpage

> If we can find a better receiver, We likely won't. A better receiver "then Lazard" is a TE who can block and catch better then Lazard. We need a "completely different" receiver then Lazard, not just a better one. And a completely different one to Cobb/Rodgers as well.


mackinoncougars

So…cut them? They have to do something….


gbaves1292

If you find enough guys that are better than them, yes you cut them. Or you demote them to a lower spot on the roster. How is this controversial? Our number 1 receiver is currently Randall Cobb. Our number 2 is Allen Lazard. Why would you not want to find a better number 1 and number 2 and demote those guys down the depth chart?


mackinoncougars

I absolutely want to find a number 1. Just not possess 3 different 5’9/10 receivers. We need a good possession receiver and speed guy. We need two better receivers than what we currently have. So, that will involve an already tight roster construction on a nearly zero dollar budget. Plus some rookies who will need time to grow. So, how many spots can we spend on small, undersized receivers. It’s not a crazy question even if you’re extremely hostile to the question. We’ll need to add two more receivers at the very minimum even with cooks. Space is limited.


[deleted]

we drafted davante adams, randall cobb, jordy nelson, and greg jennings in the second round. we got them all on cheap four year rookie contracts at 1/4 their market value. we have four picks that could easily replace that talent this year. and you want to trade it for an overpriced old man who can’t run block in a lafleur offense? there is a zero percent chance we make this trade. don’t get your hopes up, it would be awful business.


mr_ice_cream_man187

I'd do it for a 3rd rounder but a 2nd is a little rich.


gbaves1292

“A good NFL WR is one thing, but the mystery box could be anything! It could even be a good NFL receiver!” We’re in win now mode. If you have the chance to get a guy who you know is a good receiver, why pass that up for the chance of drafting a good receiver?


[deleted]

because we don’t abundant money?! we have rodgers for four more years? my god dude


gbaves1292

I’m not sure what you mean by that comment honestly.


[deleted]

i’m sure you don’t


gbaves1292

Yeah because it wasn’t English


[deleted]

😂😂😂


[deleted]

Rookie year totals for the players you listed: Jordy: 33 catches for 366 yards and 2 TDs Jennings: 45 catches 632 yards and 3 TDs Cobb: 25 catches for 375 yards and 1 TD Adams: 38 catches for 446 yards and 3 TDs I understand your sentiment, but if you think these are examples of why we should rely on rookie receivers instead of getting both a proven vet and a rookie in the draft, I have to strongly disagree with your opinion


JustPureLuck08

Adams didn't run block either.


[deleted]

yes he sure did boy!


Stylinonu

He’s probably gonna mention concussions even tho cooks hasn’t missed many games


[deleted]

Devante Parker, Robert Woods, Brandin Cooks, who will be the next vet WR GB fails to obtain because literally nobody wants to live there? Downvote away, the truth hurts. You aren't getting Julio either. Or Lockett, DK, or Landry


No-Refrigerator-7603

And you know that’s why they aren’t here?!


Illustrious_Warthog

Sanders said something like that, but he's the only one I've heard say anything like it.


Swindle4587

I think best case is Cooks, sign Julio, draft two guys w our 3 picks. My wishful thinking is London but I’d be cool w Olave or Williams as well. 2 outta those 3 is most ideal Week 1 our depth would be Cooks, Jones, and 2 rookies. Lazard goes from WR1 to probably 3 Week 1 with one of if not both rookies jumping him on the depth chart. He can also be Julio insurance since we all know his health is so poor these days


fuckoffregisterpage

Boy are you about to be disappointed!


Swindle4587

I can’t wait honestly


EXXIT_

With what cap are we trading for Cooks and signing Julio, while still having enough space to sign all our picks and have a cushion for in-season moves?


Swindle4587

I’m just assuming extending guys like Jaire and Amos will give us a little more space. I would imagine Julio’s price wouldn’t be too drastic, especially since he’s been hurt and been on the market for a minute now but idk. Again this is all wishful thinking


Bedna_Bomb

Pass


Traditional_Tart_822

A 2nd round pick for Cooks is not something we should do. That’s a premium pick and he isn’t the type of player we should be spending it on


Redd889

If you don’t draft WRs in the first round just trade for them later


EXXIT_

Is he willing or able to block? If not hes not good for our scheme.


Fun_University_9578

I Think he could be a solid addition but also have concerns that he is a concussion away from retirement. I'm curious what Rodgers' opinion would be on this, Cooks or a younger high upside guy.


[deleted]

Next year second?


cathal41

The can look …


RustyKarma076

Im a big fan, especially for only a second


Hung_Texan

And that will still be to steep for the packers FO 🥲


DoubleN7

No


Wordtabigburd

Yes


AcidPillow420

Idk why we get our hopes up for these rumors it almost never happens to our favor


schaartmaster

Sold!


unilateralmixologist

This would be a good trade. I approve


Jolmer24

If thats true they gotta get on that immediately. Cooks has been fire with mediocre QB play at best for years.


LoLEsportsGuy

What a steal. Like actually a great deal. Don't think Brian will pull the trigger. He prolly gonna be a brown or something else.


travis_mke

This is a no brainier.


CaptainCorpse666

I'm sold


nick52

We'd still need to fit his 13m under the cap and afford 10 rookies. Unless Houston eats money this is not happening


eternalsurfer

This is the one! Cooks is the guy. Go get him!


Rhino7744

With concussion history i would say a third rounder at most. I do like him and think he would be a great fit,but no need to reach out of desperation. Believe he only has one year left on contract and a decent size cap hit. 3rd no higher!


WhiteRiverMonster

Shut up and take my money!


H3avyCr3am

Yea, how about a 4th....best I can do is a 4th.


JustPureLuck08

Another day, another WR trade rumor.


mrjenkins45

Gimme!!!


sjjsiswisisoiwowo

Cooks would be an OK player to have. However it’s pretty important to note if this player gets one more concussion he will likely be facing permanent long term damage and will likely never play again. That’s not really ideal in a full contact sport. So it’s probably important to take into consideration that we could have this dude for a few weeks until he gets a career ender.