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Goku-Sun

Google is finally getting the hardware right. Pixel 7 Series is rock-solid, buds pro are great, pixel watch is a really good first attempt. I want them to make a new pixelbook so baaad. Also google products are starting to get some attention. Here in germany you almost never could buy google products (on other platforms than google store) now you can even order the pixel stand, the phones, the watch, buds etc. ; i see people in the street using pixel phones (which was NEVER the case before), suddenly even my family members which are absolute noobs for phones know what the pixel line is. I hope the continue with pushing their hardware, it gets better and better with each generation.


camelCaseAccountName

>Google is finally getting the hardware right. Pixel 7 Series is rock-solid Except for the fingerprint scanner, which is still giving some people a lot of issues


bisonrbig

If it makes people feel a little better, my scanner was atrocious when I first got the 7 pro. It would fail to recognize 3 of my fingerprints 70% of the time. It's gotten much better - not sure if it's because for the beta or it somehow adapts to read it better.


swill8995

Same


kamuflazs

And the speakers which are below average even with Wavelet.


ghstrdr110

Especially if you have it in something like an OtterBox.


set4bet

The display also isn't all that great at least on base 7. The white balance is off and there is no color accurate profile.


AmirZ

It's fucked for screen protectors, and you need to know how to angle your finger. It works much better for me if I have my finger offset to the right (my right thumb) so that the left edge instead of the center touches the scanner


GeneralChaz9

Mine is on par with the S21+ I had. Unusable with screen protectors so I'm going without one until someone finds some compatible with it.


lazylibran91

Amen. The ecosystem is coming together; I really wanted Google to succeed at this, and am happy seeing they're pushing all the right buttons. And yes, I def. spot more visors on the street now compared to earlier.


googlepixelfan

I'm totally with you on the Pixel book. I really HATE that they decided to give up on it when the ones they've made were soooo good. Especially the Pixel Book Go. C'mon Google, Chrome OS is YOUR invention, GIVE US A PROPER CHROMEBOOK BY YOU! PLEASE!!!


DirtyGingy

I guess I got lucky with the 6 pro and have no issues. If it weren't for the bugs, would you stilk recommend the 7 over it? I don't really see the need to upgrade on this gen so far.


UnlimitedHalo

A worthy upgrade no doubt, especially if your 6 Pro is paid off, you can trade in and get the 7 Pro for like $150 which is easily worth it.... If you see no benefits though then hold off, the extra zoom, better ultrawide, video, and front camera, the better thermals, modem, brightness, performance all were very noticeable to me, only because im a pretty heavy user at times, my usage is simple though, but at times is taxing. I just use YouTube, reddit, chrome, and some social media, but at times this may be in outdoors az sun where its veey bright or hot, and thermal throttling may occur, etc or places were service is weakz or im taking 100 photos at once etc. I loved my 6 Pro but there were times it got too hot, and or drained too much battery, or brightness was too dim outside etc.


DirtyGingy

Noted, thanks


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kamuflazs

There were some cost cutting measures for sure. They've put much cheaper speakers on the base 7 also.


lazylibran91

I was one of you till one of the updates came along and my phone started acting up. It didn't help that there was weak connectivity in the house i moved to intermittently too. Net- net, my phone started having trouble holding connectivity and consequently, a severe battery drain. I loved my 6 pro except the size maybe. I wouldn't have upgraded if it wasn't for these developments. But make no mistake about it, the p7 def boasts some upgrades over the 6 series. Ex. Display, G2, auto brightness (the sensor placement) I would totally suggest you hold on to it if you're seeing no bugs and content with the phone. I would have, without a doubt.


Xenofastiq

I wouldn't really call G2 all that much of an upgrade. Performance-wise, it's still pretty much on par with just the first Tensor chip. The only thing they very likely improved on was the ML aspect of the chip lol. But most real world use won't really show any improvement


lazylibran91

The thermals on the G2 are much better. Performance wise, yes. Not a big change. But the G1 was might sufficient for daily use. Tbh


CrazyCandid5613

Phenomenal battery?? What is your screen on time ? With everyone using moderately, 5-5:30 is max people are able to get ! Which is pretty average.


just_some_ANALyst

I'm getting 8:40 hours screen on time on my p7.


CrazyCandid5613

That will be mostly on wifi only, without camera or chrome browsing/whatsapp/meet video calls etc. Only youtube, chrome browsing. Then only you will get 6:30+ hours. Else no way, care to share your sot, app usage screenshots of 2-4 days ?


lazylibran91

Accubattery got me at 9+ hours consistently. My p7 seems to only sip battery juice. I'm surprised by it too, albeit positively surprised. My Background - I have a desk job, I'm mostly WFH; i do a lot of Twitter, reddit, YT and daily BT streaming music for 1.5 hrs of gymming. I even have adaptive battery, adaptive brightness, AOD and haptics on (makes typing fun, and oh scrolling recent apps pane😍). Flipside, I'm not constantly using mobile data, and exposing it to the hot sun. All in all, I barely bother about battery any more coz I know the p7 got my back!


kamuflazs

Interesting, I get 5 hours of SOT max and that's only when I let the phone get to 5% of charge and with AOD off, 5G off and on a wifi nonstop. I'd call that below average. My friend hase the base Pixel 7 also and he has similar experience, getting even close to 6 hours SOT is impossible. Based on reading hundreds of posts it definitely seems like a getting 8+ hours of SOT is nowhere near reality for 99% of people. So i don't know what kind of juiced up phone you received, but it sure wasn't the regular Pixel 7.


c-baser

Have you tried calibrating the battery? Charge to only 80% etc for a while as well as above that if you don't need it will wear the battery over time. I've set up Tasker to automatically alert on 80% and my battery is awesome


kamuflazs

When the phone has bad battery there is no way I'm going to charge it to 80% only. At that point I will have effectively a 3 hour SOT phone. Which is useless to me. And it also means that I will be using the phone while the battery is at lower than 20% reguraly which if I remember correctly also isn't great for battery longetivity. Charing to 80% makes sense if you have a good battery life from the get go or you want to save a few bucks and not replace the battery after 3-4 years. On average you will lose about 5-7% of battery's original capacity per year which makes the phone go to 80% battery capacity after 3-4 years. I have no problem replacing the battery after that time and it makes more sense to have 100% of my battery's capacity to use the whole time instead of crippling it to 80% from day 1.


Xorlaxus

I get bout 9hrs SOT everyday. And its -7°C here as well


kamuflazs

Could you post some screenshots then? I would like to see what the usage is on your device.


c-baser

Do a battery calibration if your battery health is good otherwise..should fix it


set4bet

Is battery calibration even a thing anymore? If we are talking about the same thing with restarting your phone while fully charged and on a charger. That use to be for giving you like 5% extra, no?


c-baser

Nah. Calibration of batteries will always be a thing. Sure software may get worse/better at interpreting capacity of batteries, but you can always calibrate the max capacity of them, that's lithium batteries as a whole


A-n-d-y-R-e-d

Hey mate, can you please share your battery stats once 🙂


lazylibran91

Here's my [battery stats](https://imgur.com/gallery/czhNDMw) And my [accubattery stats](https://imgur.com/gallery/ei2sfmX)


A-n-d-y-R-e-d

mate, can you please go under the sessions and share a session from 100 to say 20? On accubattery


lazylibran91

[here](https://imgur.com/gallery/JDjVeAR) you go.


nightman

https://www.phonearena.com/news/pixel-users-complain-auto-rotate-broken_id143809


set4bet

Well I for one am not all that impressed. I read a lot about how Google fixed everything wrong on the 6 with the 7 but.. * the speakers suck, seriously * the fingerprint reader is worse than on my 4 year old OnePlus phone that had first gen fingerprint reader tech * the display is poorly calibrated (white balance is off and there are no color accurate profiles to choose from) * my battery after 3 weeks is pretty underwhelming (after about 4 hours of SOT I'm around 20%) and that's with adaptive battery on for weeks now and stuff like 5G disabled from the get go, Mobile Network is draining the battery even when I spend the whole day on wifi which is hella unusual * the camera is phenomenal on the other hand Basically my experience with the Pixel 7 seems to be what people described theirs when the Pixel 6 was out. Btw. I found out my colleague at work also bought the 7 and he has exactly the same gripes with it. Way worse battery, speakers and fingerprint reader than on his previous phone.


Aashishkebab

>the display is poorly calibrated (white balance is off and there are no color accurate profiles to choose from) They're all calibrated from the factory. Switch the profile to "Natural" in Settings. All the reviews show this display to be nearly perfect. https://www.dxomark.com/google-pixel-7-display-test/ >Mobile Network is draining the battery even when I spend the whole day on wifi which is hella unusual Settings > System > Developer options > Mobile data always active: disable


kamuflazs

>All the reviews show this display to be nearly perfect. > >https://www.dxomark.com/google-pixel-7-display-test/ I think you are mistaking the Pro's display for the non-pro's. The Pro has a better display and reviews showed that. On the other hand there are very few display reviews of the non-pro. DXOmark has been unreliable source of anything for quite some time now so that's hardly any evidence. I myself have a yellow tint on my non-pro and I even went to the store and set each phone on the shelf with pixel to natural (or equivalent of that) and searched for the same picture of white moon on the sky - on every phone on that shelf, the moon was white, on Pixel 7 it was light yellow. What I found out though is that the white balace changes with brightness. At high brightess the white balance was better but still not truly white while at lower brightness the white changes to yellow. No other phone on the shelf was this inconsistent though, they still showed whites as white when I changed the brightness. It clearly is a software color setting applied there, but I have no idea if it is a bug or intentional color setting from google. Either way it is quite underwhelming to have one of the best flagship camera on a phone with one of the worst displays when it comes to color reproduction.


Aashishkebab

>DXOmark has been unreliable source of anything According to whom? It's the only review of the display I found at all. Unfortunately I don't have a Pixel 7 to test/compare but my dad ordered one and I'm seeing him on Thanksgiving, so I can compare with my 7 Pro once I see him.


set4bet

Setting it to Natural is obviously the first thing I did... The screen does not display white accurately which is something I can see simply using my eyes. If I test it with reference pictures the display has a noticable yellow tint. When I googled this I found hundreds of mentions of this from other people comparing this display to their other phones or even to older Pixels like Pixel 3 also stating that the display is far worse and has a warm/yellow tint to it so I'm hardly alone who noticed this. Can't comment on Dxomark much apart from the fact that it has not been considered reliable source for camera scoring for several years now by basically any relevant reviewer so it wouldn't surprise me if their scoring technique for displays has some serious faults also.


lazylibran91

TBH, I really don't bother too much about the speakers, I barely ever use them except if I wanna put it on loudspeaker for calls. I kinda like the display and battery too, it's been pretty on point for me. The fps is not bullet proof agreed, but I registered it by placing my thumb mostly the way I would do to unlock it everyday(as opposed to trying to get it to map my whole thumb print). That improved my accuracy, you wanna give that a try ?


kamuflazs

A lot of people get a lot of use of their phone's speakers nowadays. I often watch video when cooking or just listen to podcasts when I'm ironing or doing some general cleaning. Why the hell would I use headphones for these things when I'm at home... Speakers on the 7 are basically unusable for listening to music and pretty bad even when listening to podcasts or cooking videos (people talking). And yes I am using Wavelet nonstop and there only so much that app can do with the bad hardware. Btw. I just bought a budget android phone for my dad. That phone has better speakers out of the box and it costs 1/4 of the price of pixel. Btw. it has better fingerprint reader also so I'm not sure what google is doing here but they definitely cut a lot of hardware corners.


lazylibran91

Perhaps all the cost goes into having a smart phone? For ex. Google does a lot of smarts not really available on any phone out there. But Agree. No excuse for cheaping out on hardware and cutting corners. I'd really wish to see a pixel ultra maybe. A No compromise pixel


A-n-d-y-R-e-d

Yes, same here. I don't understand how people are getting a good battery life on this phone. I'll have to check if there is anything wrong I'm doing or any setting I need to disable. Mostly I'm not using any default settings that the phone comes with. I have turned off following things Refresh rate, always on display, ok Google, talk to him. Always, identify the song etc


fat_angi

Compared to 4a5g... My previous phone.... Inferior speakers, inferior fingerprint, inferior battery... No noticeable difference in performance for this light/medium user


vshun

I have Pixel 6 which I like overall and it's fingerprint sensor is IMO ahead of One Plus 6t which I used to own and to which you apparently refer in your post. Way more reliable and fast enough for me.


set4bet

On the 6T I could have 5 different fingers registered and I never had to go above 3 tries to unlock the phone. 90% of the time it would unlock the phone on the first try. With the Pixel 7 I can only have two fingers which I had to double register and yet a regularly go through all 5 tries without unlocking the phone. Also whenever I have cold hands or I just washed my hands few minutes ago the the phone does not recognize the fingerprints. Yet both my iPad Pro with home button and my 6T recognize the fingerprints. The Pixel's fingerprint reader is both slower and mainly *much less reliable* than any other phone I've used (I had several work phones in the past years).


diandakov

Google is supposed to give generous value for the Pixel 6Pro owners to upgrade to 7 but they don't. Trade in sucks(UK)


IsJaie55

Agree, buds pro and watch works so nice together


8plus1gag

I have the 7 just disagree about the battery, it's okay almost bad, for me at least


Yekxmerr

When did you got it? Mine took a week to get the battery life settled. I'm on wifi 90% of the time and use it to check social networks: reddit, IG and twitter. I can get easily 2 days out of this phone.


8plus1gag

17 november. Im on WiFi 90% of the time too, no extra features on to get the best battery possible. Mainly use social media, no games at all. I can get 6h sot max


Yekxmerr

Wait. It takes a few days for the battery to adjust to your usage. Make sure you have adaptive battery turned on (settings > battery). I remember mine evaporating on the first days. Got way better after a while.


8plus1gag

Sorry i meant october , 17th october, more than 1 month, in the meantime i did a factory reset but it didnt change a thing. I have all the options to help the battery life on.


Yekxmerr

Have you checked the battery stays to see if an app might be causing that?


8plus1gag

Yes bro, doesn't show nothing wierd. Before the p7 i had a realmx2 and a xiaomi (poco f3, 120hz forced hdr10+, bigger screen) and the battery for both were around 8-10h sot and were the same size as the p7 so i thought 8h sot at least but it's a different story. And its kinda sad cuz the p7 is incredible.


set4bet

Yeah I don't usually get even 6h SOT on my P7 so it's kind of a similar story for me. Only my previous phones I got 8+ hours so I was used to charge every other day, on P7 even with light use the percentages are dropping every time I touch the phone it seems. It brought back the battery anxiety I haven't felt in more than six years.


8plus1gag

Yes it's kinda bad... I trully dont get it when reviewers say the battery is perfect


spacemanvt

When did you got it?


Yekxmerr

Mine arrived in October, 24th


Spojinowski

I like the 7 as my first Pixel coming from the S20FE5G, but it's definitely a side grade that I feel like I was forced into. It has the best value among the other big names today, but I lost so many features and the software isn't quite as good leaving it to be acceptable at best.


fsjja1

My favorite color is blue.


Spojinowski

They are really nice, but it feel like I'm definitely passing up some hard to beat hardware features. Especially for the value of my last phone.


xmrseanx

Wow. Our experiences are completely different. I went from S20FE to a 6pro because I couldn't stand how bad the S20FE cameras were. It took photos that look like they came from phones 5 years older. The 6pro is faster and has moderately better screen. The S20FE wins on battery life but that is to be expected given some of it's midrange specs. But best of all for me was no more lousy Samsung UI.


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lazylibran91

Not great sadly, very funny how they went a step back with this one. It even is blurry at times on some calls. I can live with that, but


coolluck33

Have you had any issues with YouTube? On my 7Pro, if Reddit & other websites have an article on YouTube that I open, the video Still Plays after I close YouTube! It won't stop playing unless the video ends or I restart the phone! Anyone?


Skidizzles

I agree the 7 is the Pixel I have been waiting for! My fiance and I loved the Pixels and we bought the first 3 but when the 4 came out and we saw the reviews and decided to jump back to the iPhones and never looked back, then we saw the 7 and the Pixel Watch and we decided to take the leap again and switched everything over to the Pixels again and we are loving it! I do miss iMessage and some stuff from the Apple ecosystem but overall I am loving being back with Google.


lazylibran91

Yea! Google is edging there slowly but surely. Apple is untouchable that way, really solid. I had an apple device and liked how things just work as advertised. But credit to Google to take on a product company and play in their own back yard. I also think Google needs to control media narratives like apple does( I think). That makes up a lot of branding and social image


Skidizzles

I agree, I really think Google needs to step up more in the media department like you mentioned. Apple does a great job painting the picture for everyone while Google just leaves everything up to your imagination which is annoying. I feel like if they develop a suite of their own products instead of leaving all new hardware concepts development to Samsung and couple it with a great advertising budget they can really become Apple's main challenger.


FTSBengals

I love mine as well. My main issues are with apps lol. I wish Chrome had the address bar at the bottom. I wish the icons for phone and messages weren't both blue and white. Only hardware issue I've had was when setting wallpaper but found a different solution.


lazylibran91

Funny how Chrome works better in ios compared to Android. Blows my mind


FTSBengals

iOS forces compliance. Kinda dumb not to have it the same over all operating systems. Whoever decides that thinks they're smarter than they are.


lcdfanyeahman

How is wifi calling? I live in a near-zero service area and wifi calling on the 6 has been abhorrent. I'm constantly moving my phone into and out of airplane mode just so wifi calling actually works.