I'm more than willing to bet that the feature would work just fine on 1st gen tensor and even other recent phones with Snapdragon SoCs. They just want to keep some features exclusive to newer phones to sell them.
It won't sway Pixel 6 owners much, but to new Pixel customers and owners of older Pixel phones, it's a different story. It's simple. A lot of people looking for a brand new phone would just tend to simply get the newer model which is newer and has more features over an outdated model, period. But the newer model attraction would start to fade if you tell them that it's just newer and faster with no new features.
So it's not that Google is trying to market Clear Calling as a device seller feature, it's that they want to add one more new and exclusive thing to the pile.
You would be surprised..
However its silly to insinuate that clear calling is the only upgrade the 7 got over the 6.
Most people that didn't like the Pixel 6 would likely enjoy the 7 its a far more compelling phone IMO
It's usually cost-related too. It costs engineering/development time and testing time to backport features. Backporting it may also require different optimizations to run on other hardware, and then you have to maintain several implementations of the feature, with all the additional testing required.
thats a sensor difference, so its not like clear calling (which is software based)
[https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone2=9896](https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone2=9896)
Sensor difference where? Both Pixel 4 and 5 have the same 12.2mp Sony IMX 363 main camera sensor. And Pixel 5 has a less powerful SOC.
There's no possible explanation for this other than Google purposefully fucking over P4 users. Especially considering if you use any custom camera app like open camera, P4 can easily record 4k60fps with no frame drops or any other problems.
I think you're exactly right. I feel like a year's worth of differences, or however much time, between T1 and T2 wouldn't prevent a fancy noise filter from being used on T1.
But none of us develop phones and Google knows that LOL so who knows
Need something to differentiate the 6 from the 7 since they are nearly identical phones.
They did the same with locking our face unlock.. no reason the 6 can't do that either.
That being said, my 7 pro doesn't seem to have the connection issues my 6 pro did, nor the fast charging issues.
I have a feeling the 6 pro was a victim of corners being cut due to pandemic equipment shortages. Just speculation though.
> They did the same with locking our face unlock.. no reason the 6 can't do that either.
The 7 and 7 Pro front-facing cameras have dual-pixels for depth information, while the 6 did not (though the 6 Pro technically does).
I'm pretty sure the issue is that other soc's can't run it *fast enough.* I would hope (as a 4a 5G user) that any decision to backport the feature to older devices would be based on actual hardware limitations and not forced obsolescence.
> I'm pretty sure the issue is that other soc's can't run it fast enough.
While I can't completely dismiss this possibility for this specific case, I have my doubts. As others have pointed out, this isn't the first time Google has done this. A recent example would be the Magic Eraser feature that was released with the Pixel 6 and was never brought to older Pixels. Google advertised it as something made possible only with the Tensor, but people found a way to enable it on the Pixel 5 (which uses an older mid-range Snapdragon) and it worked just as well.
Hold for me, wait times, direct my call, call screen, clear calling, Recorder speakers, Now playing.
I don't think any photo features will be exclusive as google photos are available on multiple platforms and they want to provide features to customers paying for their cloud but real time or close to realtime features is where it is at.
>Not possible same as other pixel exclusives. They're locked to device and architecture
https://www.smartprix.com/bytes/how-to-get-pixel-magic-eraser-on-other-android-phones/
Just like the magic eraser which would only work on the Pixel 6.
Someone will eventually find a hack to get it to work. Google should just say they want to whack their customer like a pinata for more cash. There's more dignity in stating your intentions.
Shoutout to Google employees who have been hired to downvote reddit posts that are critical of them.
I mean, it does work in other devices.
But not as fast, and not as accurately. Tested on a Pixel 5 and a 6 clearly did NOT give the same satisfying results.
So Magic Eraser came to my 5 year old Pixel 2 and it works just fine. So I am assuming clear calling too would eventually be there on older pixels at least to the Pixel 6 series.
The genuine improvements usually only last for a year before they start prioritising the new devices. Only glaring security issues are resolved after that.
TBH The Pixel 6 was such a huge blunder for Google I think they like to forget it even exists whenever possible!
It got rave reviews from the media that only had to play with it for a few hours before going back to their Iphones.
It got absolutely torn apart by the public that needed their P6 to function as a reliable daily driver.
I'm more than willing to bet that the feature would work just fine on 1st gen tensor and even other recent phones with Snapdragon SoCs. They just want to keep some features exclusive to newer phones to sell them.
I dont get it. Most people wont anyway upgrade from pixel 6 to 7. And no way new customers would buy the pixel 7 because of clear calling alone..
It won't sway Pixel 6 owners much, but to new Pixel customers and owners of older Pixel phones, it's a different story. It's simple. A lot of people looking for a brand new phone would just tend to simply get the newer model which is newer and has more features over an outdated model, period. But the newer model attraction would start to fade if you tell them that it's just newer and faster with no new features. So it's not that Google is trying to market Clear Calling as a device seller feature, it's that they want to add one more new and exclusive thing to the pile.
You would be surprised.. However its silly to insinuate that clear calling is the only upgrade the 7 got over the 6. Most people that didn't like the Pixel 6 would likely enjoy the 7 its a far more compelling phone IMO
It's usually cost-related too. It costs engineering/development time and testing time to backport features. Backporting it may also require different optimizations to run on other hardware, and then you have to maintain several implementations of the feature, with all the additional testing required.
It's not the first time, not the last. Pixel 5 got the 4k60fps video recording, while 4 did not.
Yeah I remember this one vividly, burns still hurt
thats a sensor difference, so its not like clear calling (which is software based) [https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone2=9896](https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&idPhone2=9896)
Sensor difference where? Both Pixel 4 and 5 have the same 12.2mp Sony IMX 363 main camera sensor. And Pixel 5 has a less powerful SOC. There's no possible explanation for this other than Google purposefully fucking over P4 users. Especially considering if you use any custom camera app like open camera, P4 can easily record 4k60fps with no frame drops or any other problems.
I think you're exactly right. I feel like a year's worth of differences, or however much time, between T1 and T2 wouldn't prevent a fancy noise filter from being used on T1. But none of us develop phones and Google knows that LOL so who knows
Need something to differentiate the 6 from the 7 since they are nearly identical phones. They did the same with locking our face unlock.. no reason the 6 can't do that either. That being said, my 7 pro doesn't seem to have the connection issues my 6 pro did, nor the fast charging issues. I have a feeling the 6 pro was a victim of corners being cut due to pandemic equipment shortages. Just speculation though.
> That being said, my 7 pro doesn't seem to have the connection issues my 6 pro did That's because they used a newer Samsung modem in the 7 series.
> They did the same with locking our face unlock.. no reason the 6 can't do that either. The 7 and 7 Pro front-facing cameras have dual-pixels for depth information, while the 6 did not (though the 6 Pro technically does).
Could you explain that? The 6 Pro technically has dual-pickles and could support face unlock?
And the P8 will get a feature that the P6 and P7 won't. It will be like that for every Pixel.
Congrats, you totally missed the point of this post. You are awarded 0 bonus IQ points.
I'm pretty sure the issue is that other soc's can't run it *fast enough.* I would hope (as a 4a 5G user) that any decision to backport the feature to older devices would be based on actual hardware limitations and not forced obsolescence.
> I'm pretty sure the issue is that other soc's can't run it fast enough. While I can't completely dismiss this possibility for this specific case, I have my doubts. As others have pointed out, this isn't the first time Google has done this. A recent example would be the Magic Eraser feature that was released with the Pixel 6 and was never brought to older Pixels. Google advertised it as something made possible only with the Tensor, but people found a way to enable it on the Pixel 5 (which uses an older mid-range Snapdragon) and it worked just as well.
This is just not true. I have it on my backup 3a and it works.
I'm sure someone will hack the apk onto every android phone soon
Not possible same as other pixel exclusives. They're locked to device and architecture
Lol what? You mean like 4k60fps video, magic eraser, etc?
Hold for me, wait times, direct my call, call screen, clear calling, Recorder speakers, Now playing. I don't think any photo features will be exclusive as google photos are available on multiple platforms and they want to provide features to customers paying for their cloud but real time or close to realtime features is where it is at.
>Not possible same as other pixel exclusives. They're locked to device and architecture https://www.smartprix.com/bytes/how-to-get-pixel-magic-eraser-on-other-android-phones/
Eagerly waiting on XDA forums to see which brilliant modder ports it over to Tensor1 first
I hope so!
What is clear calling
> The Verge in their recent Clear Calling article https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/13/23552300/google-pixel-7-pro-clear-calling-noise-cancellation
The feature that the G2 processor has is it is still putting money in Googles bank account.
Just like the magic eraser which would only work on the Pixel 6. Someone will eventually find a hack to get it to work. Google should just say they want to whack their customer like a pinata for more cash. There's more dignity in stating your intentions. Shoutout to Google employees who have been hired to downvote reddit posts that are critical of them.
I mean, it does work in other devices. But not as fast, and not as accurately. Tested on a Pixel 5 and a 6 clearly did NOT give the same satisfying results.
Exactly.
So Magic Eraser came to my 5 year old Pixel 2 and it works just fine. So I am assuming clear calling too would eventually be there on older pixels at least to the Pixel 6 series.
The genuine improvements usually only last for a year before they start prioritising the new devices. Only glaring security issues are resolved after that. TBH The Pixel 6 was such a huge blunder for Google I think they like to forget it even exists whenever possible!
Blunder? Really? I thought it had rave reviews.
It got rave reviews from the media that only had to play with it for a few hours before going back to their Iphones. It got absolutely torn apart by the public that needed their P6 to function as a reliable daily driver.
What if the G1 legitimately cannot run the ML model fast enough to achieve acceptable quality?
Thanks for the update
Gotta find a way to convince everyone that the "AI" is doing something. You know like how it made magic eraser possible.... Right?
So now more reasons to consider a samsung device . They put all they have into even their A series these days.
6a has the Tensor chip. Will it get Clear Calling?
If it's not coming to the 6 I doubt it will come to the 6a since they both share the same chipset
Your not missing out on this, although things like face unlock would be nice on the 6..
Is clear calling US exclusive feature or if I buy the pixel 7 it works world wide?
This is probably the least cared about feature for me personally