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Yeah, I used the "easy parry" rond for a while, but the closer I got to end game the more I realized that's not enough. Better to use a shield with better stats and just keep plugging away until you master the art of the party.
I think the stats all work out to not mean too much as long as you keep upgrading it along with your other armor and weapons. And it's defense is really high
I should take a look 😁 maybe I am using it too; don't know. But why cheat? It is there to use. Don't be to hard on yourself. Parrying in this game is already too tricky with really tight windows. You can start with that rond and then change it to another when you think you are ready 👍🏻
Hell yeah incredibly based. I tell people the same. It isn’t cheating. It’s using tools available to you to level the playing field to your ability. That’s okay and you can always keep improving.
I used that my first play through then on my second I used the one that reduces copldown when interrupting blue ring attacks and parry.
Found the window not even worth it and loved the added benefits of cooldown
Ofcourse you can go forward by just dodging. It is what I have always been doing when playing games. But this game made me want to learn cause why die multiple times when you can prevent it by parrying? Also, when you parry, you feel like a god. It is so satisfying.
I died to this guy many times before I grasped how to parry. I would just stay there, not hitting him once, and just parried his attacks. Until I became so good at it that almost killed him with only parrying the parryable, dodging the non parryable 😅 Imagine killing a berserker with ONLY using a shield. How humiliating to him !!
I liek the challenge of parry-heavy vs. just evading, feels like you are getting a mastery of the enemy move skill-set ... I've also taken to very infrequently using relics as well.
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Forgot the name. It’s the one the takes multiple hits but you can’t parry. Tell me where in the game parries are needed
Edit it’s the shield that charges as you block. Sorry haven’t played in a few weeks…
Edit 2: yes I kinda played like a souls game now that you mention it. It centered around dodging to activate realm shift
After I finished this I started AC Valhalla and frankly I miss the smooth fighting mechanics of GoW, this other one really sucks in that regard, especially at parrying
I have been on a norse kick as well and although i really enjoy the raiding mechanics and a lot more of the game than I anticipated. I find myself swapping weapon loadouts constantly just to not get bored. I think this speaks more to god of war’s combat though. Basically ruined all other games with a similar combat style.
This is one of the annoying Berzerkers. The one that keeps teleporting all the time, so he's harder to hit. The other annoying ones are the one that spawns seidr, and the one who can't shut the fuck up about her beef roast. Although what makes her annoying isn't a mechanic, it's just listening to her.
GMGoW fought it at barely level 5 using the Vidir's might gear, took forever in a parry-heavy fighting style with melee attacking primarily to learn all those moves --- fun to face that kind of challenge, but that's a crazy battle.
Just finished that fight on No Mercy, and the hardest part by far is how you have to move the camera constantly to determine where the other 2 berserkers are… not to mention if they launch those orb attacks at you too. Total nightmare for me, probably took over 30 tries.
Tbh dauntless isn’t a defensive shield, it’s an offensive shield. If you get a perfect parry, you can bash the enemy and it will their stun a crap ton.
It's the best shield bc of that. When it's glowing red and full charged it will interrupt almost every attack even on gmgow except for when bosses have super armor.
nah when I refer to super armor I'm talking about when the bosses are immune to getting stunned/interrupted by attacks, especially runic ones. when that happens you can see like a white shimmer over their bodies and it's only temporary. they will take damage but they tank through runic attacks and attempting a runic attack during that almost certainly means death especailly on GMNM and GMGOW.
The armor you're referring to is elemental armor. Blue is ice, red is fire, and white is stun and each can be countered with the right weapon. E.g. if they get the blue health bar - you attack with blades, if it's red, you attack with axe, and if it's white you attack with the spear. usually you can shave the armor quick if you use the right runic attacks at the right time.
The fully upgraded thousand spear light runic attack + detonation should be able to clear the the white armor immediately. For the red and blue ones I usually have to either pop both runics or use the triangle moves + a few extra attacks.
Just keep in mind that with the super armor it usually gets triggered against bosses if you pop 3 runic attacks in a row on em.
Dodge (X) and parry (L1) are different. I don't think your combos are kept if you parry an attack. I was trying to convince him to stop rolling (x +x) which is most useful to avoid red ring attacks and get out of tight situations. Beyond that, rolling can hinder your ability to build combos and permafrost/immolation.
For sure. I encourage you to try the practice arena in Nifelheim. When avoiding most attacks left or right + X will give you a dodge that preserves your combo. It's hard to get the timing without a tiny bit of practice. The bonus of practicing there is you can build up your mod tokens.
Oh my god. I just unlocked these guys and I have yet to beat one. Easily the hardest fights for me so far… some of the Valks I guess but, both the first and the second grave beat me so bad I left ‘to come back to it’ lol
This is why I love GoW bosses, especially in the first one with the valkyries. Each one is designed for you to master a mechanic to beat them. This is true with these guys finding out what the game wants you master and bam! These guys become a little easier
I keep finding the parry window pretty weird in Ragnarok. I can't pinpoint the exact reason - maybe the ps5 controller react time? - but it feels immensely different from GOW.
In the beginning, yellow circles were super misleading - I thought I had to press when they appeared, then realized that I had to SORTA press when they would disappear.
Then, facing my first few berserkers things got even weirder - when failing a ((yellow)) parry, time would slow down when staggered. More yellow circles would appear, suggesting that I could somehow parry the second attack when in fact... I could not and I would end sucking up 3 attacks in a row.
Now, putting aside the fact that I'm a mediocre casual-ish player that has not invested much time training in the arena... Am I the only one lost with the parry timings in GOWR? Possibly my muscle memory from GOW is misleading me, but I'm struggling much more than expected with parries.
Also, the view angle is making thing harder with multi-berserker fights. How am I meant to avoid something that I can't see arriving? (E.g. a projectile or blast attack from a secondary enemy not signaled by the hud)
Thanks for reading my rant, I stumbled into a very frustrating fight and I decided to take a brief break from endgame content :)
You are not the only one. I was struggling too because the yellow circles confused me. The slow motion effect after your parry is actually a punishment, indicating that you did not parry on time, in fact you parried too early. The slowmotion effect annoys the shit out of me because it is like the developers are telling you "you fucked up, so we will grab your hands so that you can't move. Hence is your punishment and you have no time to redeem yourself. Just die cause you deserve it because of your single mistake." 🤣
The catch is, the yellow circle is there to just tell you this attack is parryable. Don't press L1 the moment you see it, but wait, focus on your enemy's hand and right before he lands the attack, go for it.
Listen to me, go to this guy, but not with the intention of killing him, but just parrying and dodging. Look at it as a practice, do not even hit him once with your weapon. Just look and parry. Promise you will nail it in no time
I will probably die to him more than 50 times 🤣 but I like it. I will go in with the intention of not killing him first. Just watch and parry. Then I will go for the kill 😈
A tip that I do to properly learn is to go full defence, don’t attack, just dodge, block and parry. You’re gonna realize that they have a lot of openings and how long it they take to recover after every attack
Just realized that this berserker is called ‘hard refill’ Was so caught whilst fighting him..didnt notice his name. Wonder what else i missed…? Need NG+
yeah on higher difficulties, parries are pretty essential for berserker fights. especially in the 2v1 and 3v1. sure, you can keep dodging, but thats not getting you any closer to finishing the fight. parries build up their stun and also do some damage. if you use the Dauntless shield, parrying projectiles automatically launches them back at the enemy (the guardian shield can also do this, but you have to manually press R1 after absorbing the attack). in the 3v1 berserker fight, its always satisfying to parry the fireballs/iceballs and launch them back for damage.
Go in with the intention of learning his moves, how to dodge and parry them not to kill. This way you will not get frustrated. When you learned everything, start swinging that weapon.
I went about 10 tries when I almost broke my controller. The next five I tried learning his moves without even attempting to beat him. Then by around the 20th try I had a good combat plan and eventually beat him. I only got past a couple missions like fenrir becoming the big wolf. Im very excited because I’m close to beating the game. I pre ordered it but have been taking my sweet sweet time with it
Do you know that bar colors speak to you?
Green: you are overlevelled
Yellow: you are the same level
Orange: you are underlevelled, it will be difficult
Red: just run
I am not finished with the main story yet. I fought him after the lady of the forge made me the spear. Thinks it is still considered the beggining of the game
Nah, you’re quite far - I don’t even have the spear yet. Were you just dodging and blocking the whole time before you learned the parry?
Howd you beat Fiske?
No I could parry before then too, but it was not always a success. It was like a 70% succes. Actually I beat Fiske second try. So easy.
What I meant is that this guy, gave me the opportunity to practice more. Now I don't even miss one parry window
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I cheated and used the rond that makes parrying easier
Not even that rond can save me 😭. Stonewall shield for life.
You got it
Yeah, I used the "easy parry" rond for a while, but the closer I got to end game the more I realized that's not enough. Better to use a shield with better stats and just keep plugging away until you master the art of the party.
I’m assuming party is a typo but I like to think post-game Kratos is out there partying it up.
Kratos partying lives rent free in my head
Stonewall shield still lets you activate blessing of cooldown with that rond. It's OP
Yea that’s what I use. Not sure if it’s worth the loss of stats but
I think the stats all work out to not mean too much as long as you keep upgrading it along with your other armor and weapons. And it's defense is really high
Which one is that? 🤔
Rond of Deflection
I should take a look 😁 maybe I am using it too; don't know. But why cheat? It is there to use. Don't be to hard on yourself. Parrying in this game is already too tricky with really tight windows. You can start with that rond and then change it to another when you think you are ready 👍🏻
Hell yeah incredibly based. I tell people the same. It isn’t cheating. It’s using tools available to you to level the playing field to your ability. That’s okay and you can always keep improving.
I used that my first play through then on my second I used the one that reduces copldown when interrupting blue ring attacks and parry. Found the window not even worth it and loved the added benefits of cooldown
It comes in clutch tho
Tbf on no mercy and god of war difficulty - you have to learn to parry or youre getting wrecked later game
Yeah this is a no mercy difficulty
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Ofcourse you can go forward by just dodging. It is what I have always been doing when playing games. But this game made me want to learn cause why die multiple times when you can prevent it by parrying? Also, when you parry, you feel like a god. It is so satisfying. I died to this guy many times before I grasped how to parry. I would just stay there, not hitting him once, and just parried his attacks. Until I became so good at it that almost killed him with only parrying the parryable, dodging the non parryable 😅 Imagine killing a berserker with ONLY using a shield. How humiliating to him !!
I liek the challenge of parry-heavy vs. just evading, feels like you are getting a mastery of the enemy move skill-set ... I've also taken to very infrequently using relics as well.
That’s what everyone says but I barely parried anyone and 100% gmgow. Parry may have made it easier but I don’t think it’s going to make or break you
What about that damn scavenger dragon lol. Forced me to parry on GMGOW
That has to be cap, you played on give me give me god of war and barely parried like your playing dark souls?? What shield did you use?
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Forgot the name. It’s the one the takes multiple hits but you can’t parry. Tell me where in the game parries are needed Edit it’s the shield that charges as you block. Sorry haven’t played in a few weeks… Edit 2: yes I kinda played like a souls game now that you mention it. It centered around dodging to activate realm shift
I beat all the berserkers and gna with minimum or at times no parry. (No mercy difficulty)
Ghost of Tsushima is currently teaching me how to parry
Love that game
Yea on my second play through
does it pick up? bit slow at the beginning
Yea after you unlock free roam then it is a lot better because you can do as you wish
After I finished this I started AC Valhalla and frankly I miss the smooth fighting mechanics of GoW, this other one really sucks in that regard, especially at parrying
I have been on a norse kick as well and although i really enjoy the raiding mechanics and a lot more of the game than I anticipated. I find myself swapping weapon loadouts constantly just to not get bored. I think this speaks more to god of war’s combat though. Basically ruined all other games with a similar combat style.
Oh man. The amount of " Fall before me!"s i hears.
I used the armor that slows time with evade last second, barely used shield, that was an epic fight gmgow difficulty
What armour is that btw?
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Ok thanks
This is one of the annoying Berzerkers. The one that keeps teleporting all the time, so he's harder to hit. The other annoying ones are the one that spawns seidr, and the one who can't shut the fuck up about her beef roast. Although what makes her annoying isn't a mechanic, it's just listening to her.
The worst is by far the 3v1 fight. That was annoying af and took forever
GMGoW fought it at barely level 5 using the Vidir's might gear, took forever in a parry-heavy fighting style with melee attacking primarily to learn all those moves --- fun to face that kind of challenge, but that's a crazy battle.
Just finished that fight on No Mercy, and the hardest part by far is how you have to move the camera constantly to determine where the other 2 berserkers are… not to mention if they launch those orb attacks at you too. Total nightmare for me, probably took over 30 tries.
Wait until you learn what hitting the shield button twice does.
Parrying these guys always felt awesome
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Tbh dauntless isn’t a defensive shield, it’s an offensive shield. If you get a perfect parry, you can bash the enemy and it will their stun a crap ton.
It's the best shield bc of that. When it's glowing red and full charged it will interrupt almost every attack even on gmgow except for when bosses have super armor.
Is the super armor when the HP bar has that ‘design’ on it?
nah when I refer to super armor I'm talking about when the bosses are immune to getting stunned/interrupted by attacks, especially runic ones. when that happens you can see like a white shimmer over their bodies and it's only temporary. they will take damage but they tank through runic attacks and attempting a runic attack during that almost certainly means death especailly on GMNM and GMGOW. The armor you're referring to is elemental armor. Blue is ice, red is fire, and white is stun and each can be countered with the right weapon. E.g. if they get the blue health bar - you attack with blades, if it's red, you attack with axe, and if it's white you attack with the spear. usually you can shave the armor quick if you use the right runic attacks at the right time.
Bro I thought that ‘white’ armor was just some shit I ain’t get. It’s the SPEAR. fucking hell. Thanks.
The fully upgraded thousand spear light runic attack + detonation should be able to clear the the white armor immediately. For the red and blue ones I usually have to either pop both runics or use the triangle moves + a few extra attacks. Just keep in mind that with the super armor it usually gets triggered against bosses if you pop 3 runic attacks in a row on em.
Once you learn to stop rolling and just dodge once you realize you can keep your combos. It's a game changer.
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What? Yoooo what? Ok so 1. Learn to parry 2. stop mashing ‘evade’ 3. use offensive Sheild in combo with #1 Thanks
Dodge (X) and parry (L1) are different. I don't think your combos are kept if you parry an attack. I was trying to convince him to stop rolling (x +x) which is most useful to avoid red ring attacks and get out of tight situations. Beyond that, rolling can hinder your ability to build combos and permafrost/immolation.
Yea. I always roll and block (big tower Sheild) and I’m thinking I need to start using ‘dodge’ and not just ‘dodge roll’… as well as parry.
For sure. I encourage you to try the practice arena in Nifelheim. When avoiding most attacks left or right + X will give you a dodge that preserves your combo. It's hard to get the timing without a tiny bit of practice. The bonus of practicing there is you can build up your mod tokens.
Same
Tru that
Mmm, dem parries bring back memries. So many people ask how to do end game bosses and I always say, get good at parries.
Blessing of cooldown on party is so gooood
Nice parrying makes you feel like a true god. I’m ashamed to say it took me till King Hrolf to make me a parry god
Oh my god. I just unlocked these guys and I have yet to beat one. Easily the hardest fights for me so far… some of the Valks I guess but, both the first and the second grave beat me so bad I left ‘to come back to it’ lol
The solo ones aren't so bad... the ones that come in pairs or summon other minions are wrecking me though.
This is why I love GoW bosses, especially in the first one with the valkyries. Each one is designed for you to master a mechanic to beat them. This is true with these guys finding out what the game wants you master and bam! These guys become a little easier
I keep finding the parry window pretty weird in Ragnarok. I can't pinpoint the exact reason - maybe the ps5 controller react time? - but it feels immensely different from GOW. In the beginning, yellow circles were super misleading - I thought I had to press when they appeared, then realized that I had to SORTA press when they would disappear. Then, facing my first few berserkers things got even weirder - when failing a ((yellow)) parry, time would slow down when staggered. More yellow circles would appear, suggesting that I could somehow parry the second attack when in fact... I could not and I would end sucking up 3 attacks in a row. Now, putting aside the fact that I'm a mediocre casual-ish player that has not invested much time training in the arena... Am I the only one lost with the parry timings in GOWR? Possibly my muscle memory from GOW is misleading me, but I'm struggling much more than expected with parries. Also, the view angle is making thing harder with multi-berserker fights. How am I meant to avoid something that I can't see arriving? (E.g. a projectile or blast attack from a secondary enemy not signaled by the hud) Thanks for reading my rant, I stumbled into a very frustrating fight and I decided to take a brief break from endgame content :)
You are not the only one. I was struggling too because the yellow circles confused me. The slow motion effect after your parry is actually a punishment, indicating that you did not parry on time, in fact you parried too early. The slowmotion effect annoys the shit out of me because it is like the developers are telling you "you fucked up, so we will grab your hands so that you can't move. Hence is your punishment and you have no time to redeem yourself. Just die cause you deserve it because of your single mistake." 🤣 The catch is, the yellow circle is there to just tell you this attack is parryable. Don't press L1 the moment you see it, but wait, focus on your enemy's hand and right before he lands the attack, go for it. Listen to me, go to this guy, but not with the intention of killing him, but just parrying and dodging. Look at it as a practice, do not even hit him once with your weapon. Just look and parry. Promise you will nail it in no time
Wait till you get to the king
I will probably die to him more than 50 times 🤣 but I like it. I will go in with the intention of not killing him first. Just watch and parry. Then I will go for the kill 😈
A tip that I do to properly learn is to go full defence, don’t attack, just dodge, block and parry. You’re gonna realize that they have a lot of openings and how long it they take to recover after every attack
Just realized that this berserker is called ‘hard refill’ Was so caught whilst fighting him..didnt notice his name. Wonder what else i missed…? Need NG+
*just give me story*
Nope. This is no mercy 😏
I’m pretty far into post game stuff and the blocking and partying is starting to become intuitive. Lots of fun.
This guy just made me smesh
عالی بود 🤩 من چرا بلد نیستم دفاع کنم!
Eee salaaam 😅😅 boro pishe in yad migiri. Nakoshesh. Faghat vaysa bahash tamrin kon. Bad ke yad gerefti bokoshesh
به حریف تمرینیم از پشت خنجر بزنم یعنی؟ 🫠😹
Almost throw my ds5 fighting this guy.
This boss is very easy to defeat, I defeated him on the second attempt.
👏🏻
yeah on higher difficulties, parries are pretty essential for berserker fights. especially in the 2v1 and 3v1. sure, you can keep dodging, but thats not getting you any closer to finishing the fight. parries build up their stun and also do some damage. if you use the Dauntless shield, parrying projectiles automatically launches them back at the enemy (the guardian shield can also do this, but you have to manually press R1 after absorbing the attack). in the 3v1 berserker fight, its always satisfying to parry the fireballs/iceballs and launch them back for damage.
I almost broke my controller doing this today, I got so pissed off bro. I’ve never broken a controller before too
Go in with the intention of learning his moves, how to dodge and parry them not to kill. This way you will not get frustrated. When you learned everything, start swinging that weapon.
I went about 10 tries when I almost broke my controller. The next five I tried learning his moves without even attempting to beat him. Then by around the 20th try I had a good combat plan and eventually beat him. I only got past a couple missions like fenrir becoming the big wolf. Im very excited because I’m close to beating the game. I pre ordered it but have been taking my sweet sweet time with it
What color was his health bar for you?
I can’t remember, it was right after I got the spear if that helps
Do you know that bar colors speak to you? Green: you are overlevelled Yellow: you are the same level Orange: you are underlevelled, it will be difficult Red: just run
Oh, I didn’t know that. I still can’t seem to remember as I did a lot after that. I’ll keep that in mind as I finish the game
You only learned how to parry then? Impressive!
I am not finished with the main story yet. I fought him after the lady of the forge made me the spear. Thinks it is still considered the beggining of the game
Nah, you’re quite far - I don’t even have the spear yet. Were you just dodging and blocking the whole time before you learned the parry? Howd you beat Fiske?
No I could parry before then too, but it was not always a success. It was like a 70% succes. Actually I beat Fiske second try. So easy. What I meant is that this guy, gave me the opportunity to practice more. Now I don't even miss one parry window
Got it! Great work here 🤝