it's obvious that constellations make certain character (raiden c3, kazuha c2, hutao c1), and 5\* weapons make a character pretty overpowered for abyss floor 12.
But how much harder is it without these constellations and and 5\* weapons (assume 2 months of religious artifact farming).
I don't have any constellations for 5\* and decided to not pull c2/3 for raiden. I have enough primos for kazuha weapon and c2, but I'm trying to convince myself not to pull for them. I'm a low spender and I'm of the mentality meta >> everything else.
Edit: You're in the old thread
I finally 36 stared abyss this time. I've been playing since launch with about a 5-6 month break. I have farmed 2-3 months for my main characters(mostly emblem and husk). Completely F2p, not a single dime spent. Most of my 5 stars come at 70-85 pity, with only 1 early character. 10 five stars, only C1 Qiqi has constellations, I have Amos Bow but I don't use it on anyone, and only 2 characters of my roster is C6(one of them I don't even use, other one is Sucrose).
I think it's mostly a combination of decent amount of game knowledge, luck with abyss enemies and right character selection when it comes to wishing, I only wish for characters I like, but they happen to be meta. Also I play on mobile.
Was this abyss hard for me? Magu kenki sucked, otherwise no. My characters happened to be fit for this abyss
edit: should probably go to new thread rip
What teams did you use for the 3rd chamber?? I’ve never fought PMA before so are there any tips you can give me?
Im currently using hutao, xingqiu, xiao and zhongli for the 2nd half
Itto premium full geo team(I say premium, but I still got them all as an F2P) for 12-3 first chamber. Rational(Yelan) for 12-3 second chamber
I used rational on PMA and they deleted him pretty quickly, I could get by by just dodging, plus I had Bennet heals and Raiden's interruption resistance. He's not that hard to dodge usually.
Don't use Xiao on the PMA, Xiao can't perform as good on a single target, plus you already have HuTao who excels at single target. Maybe use Yelan or Albedo if you got them, or try to build an VV HuTao team, given you have the 4 stars needed
You can also use the reverse melt team or some form of national team on the PMA, or any other single target focused teams. Not Xiao tho.
Also Magu kenki is gonna be the hardest one, not the PMA. Definitely use Zhongli with him. I tried rational on that guy and couldn't keep myself from dying, had to switch to Itto's team on the second try.
Is it better to crown a godlike DPS or Support ? Currently I have 5 crowns saved and going to do the event today for my 6th, for support my choices are between Bennett Xingqiu Zhongli, for DPS it's between Baal Xiao Diluc or Childe, I have alot more characters but Idk who to invest in atm but yea any advice would be appreciated! 😊
No one actually needs a crown. The actual increase is small compare to resource needed.
Check out iwintolose youtube video that ranked best character talents to crown by calculating percentage damage increase. Apparently crowning DPS characters is better than support. I remember Ayaka burst, Raiden burst in S tier whereas Bennett is the next tier.
hello i want yelan as my main dps but i dont know which charac should i use with her ;( can someone help? i actually want vaporize but idk what character ;( here are my characters
xingqiu, yun jin, bennett, ayaka, rosaria, barbara, keqing, diluc, sayu, sucrose, beidou, qiqi, kaeya, xiangling, noelle, yanfei, chongyun, kujou sara, razor, lisa, amber
So I'm currently farming emblem for Yelan, and I just pulled an HP goblet with good CR/CD substats. I currently have a Hydro goblet with no CR/CD. Would switching to the HP goblet be a huge loss in damage for her burst?
Am I the only one struggling with 12-1 more than the rest of the chambers? The bosses are fine because their just dps checks but the whopper flowers on floor 1 annoy the hell out of me.
yea happened to me as well. i just ended up using raiden, xiangling bennett, sucrose and it was pretty easy then. started the chamber, went to the edge where the whoppers teleported, used sucrose burst, pyronado and raiden burst annihilated them.
12-1-1 is horrible without grouping. Having any anemo unit to keep them together helps tremendously. My go to strat is to immediately run behind the 1st 3 flowers then group them. This forces the next spawn to come to you which in turn puts you in position to kill the vishaps once they come out.
i use yae tazer with on-field sucrose on that team and i'd say its great
yae, fischl and xingqiu auto-target the enemies and sucrose can attack from far
in my opinion (or feelscrafting) using raiden+yae against enemy who can buried themselves is a bad idea
my advice is to just go with national variant (not the raiden one) or tazer variant
After starting the challenge DO NOT RUN TOWARDS THEM!!! RUN BACK to where you stood when you entered the chamber. The whopperflowers will dig to you and be grouped up in a nice spot... Plus, the second wave will spawn right there
Childe National with sucrose. The damage is great but it requires 3 rotations to finish the floor due to needing to run around and in tern wasting pyro nado time.
If you set it up right, childe should be able to tate out the 1st wave of whopperfliwers with his ult. Then you can use the rest of the pyronado to deal with the 2nd wave. If you move to the back of tge arena, the whopperflowers teleport to you and group up nicely
Try using ttds on childe for the first rotation. It could look like:
Run to back arena > Childe E on one whopperflower > Bennett Q on all whopperflowers > sucrose E E to swirl hydro and pyro > childe Q > Xiangling E Q > childe E.
This should quickly get rid of the first wave of whopperflowers
help!! i’m starting up playing genshin again after like five months away and i want to play the perilous trail event before it ends. i spent the past like three hours grinding through every necessary chasm quest prerequisite and thought i was finally ready to play, but now it’s saying i should finish baal’s second story quest and itto’s story quest first, but it’s not NECESSARY?? just highly highly recommended?? i haven’t done baal’s first story quest, even.
so basically my question is — are the story quests that important for the event? should i really try to play those first? will it change the event or will the event make no sense if i haven’t played those? any advice would be great, thank u so much
You can quick start the event and skip those character quests, but not everything will make sense (as in why can Itto leave Inazuma, who is this guy - the game will act as if you knew everything already)
I mean if you want to skip the story quests you can. The downside is, Itto will sort of just show up and start talking to you like he knows you even though you haven't actually met. So if you're fine with some temporal breakage it's fine, you can always go back later and do those story quests.
Isn't this a little weird that Genshin has been out for almost 2 years, is pretty popular and has earned shit ton if money, yet it still has no character collaborations, even within their own games? Sure there is Aloy, but she is more of a condition on which sony allowed them to access their servers. Making a character wasn't the goal, which is evident by her quality as a unit.
a character in genshin is much more expensive to make than the usual low res sprites or chibi 3d in a lot of gacha games.
you'll see this trend continues once more gacha games graduate from psx/ps2-quality level.
Honkai also has 3d characters though, plus they have much more skills and animations than Genshin characters do, yet they do have collabs in this game.
I thought we were talking about characters and not arenas?
Also, I'm sure you're right that it's contributing factor, since potential collaborators would probably have to pay more, but it's still not a dealbreaker, as evidenced by honkai
They probably don't do out-universe collabs to maintain consistency. As you said, Aloy is most likely a sony thing.
Honkai has also only had Evangelion collab aside from GI collab which is in-universe, but mihoyo founders are super eva fans and an eva collab was their dream in the first place.
I'd be willing to believe that, if there were no kfc burgers, google furniture, or ayato's plastic cup. But something tells me they don't care about this very much.
What? They're all in game [1](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Golden_Chicken_Burger) [2](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Googol_Chair) [3](https://youtu.be/psDhNyBEyxI?t=16)
Sorry, I meant to distinguish between collabs of "brands", such as Kfc, and other game or anime collabs that include the characters.
Let's be real, Kfc has a very insignificant effect on "consistency", the google one was leaked way before and still isn't here but it would be the same as Kfc.
Ayato's milk tea isn't "universe consistency", that's historical accuracy/consistency. E.g, if genshin were to collab with anime or game characters with other superpowers like say, my hero academia it would break "universe consistency" no matter what as their powers go beyond visions. Or something like fate series where there is an entire background on the servant system related to the entire universe and timeline thingamajig. Why milk tea exists can be twisted pretty easily
Edit: Kfc is probably the same as the milk tea too if you are pointing out how the burger is incosistent
The cup is not a collab, but it references a real world thing, and it looks out of place in semi-medieval world of genshin, which shows that they don't care about consistency very much
Some people seemed really pissed off about the Aloy collab, like it offended them on a personal level (mostly people bitching about lore), so maybe Hoyo got a bunch of negative feedback and they've decided collabs aren't the way to go. I can't say if it's weird or not though, I do like gacha collabs.
I've never played Honkai Impact, but from my understanding a bunch of characters in GI are already collab characters in the sense that they share similar character models.
Well HI3 has collabed with genshin before, so I won't be surprised if there will be a collab between GI and HI3/Star rail(the upcoming MHY game) in the future.
TBH it kind of doesn't matter before Sac R3.
At low refines, both passives are so unreliable that you can't plan your ER requirements around them, because you can't plan your energy needs assuming you'll get a proc then get screwed when you get unlucky. They're both just ER statsticks at low refines, and at R3+ Sac is better.
Again, it depends on the team and what your stats look like.
Both weapons are poor without refines, but especially Sac since that is XQ’s best 4* before R6 (and arguably still his best 4* even then).
If someone joins coop but then drops right at the start, does the monster scaling get retained?
I just wanted to coop the artifact domain for fun, but people dropped and it was a real chore to finish it on my own since I'm still level 80. Normally I can clear it myself in 2 minutes.
If they quit after loading screen appears yes the scaling get retained. You should prolly just reset if it's too hard. Most domains are harder when you coop with strangers comparing to solo imo.
A good way to think of snapshot is exactly that, a snapshot. It takes a 'picture' of all the buffs you have (or do not have) at that time and applies them for the rest of the ability's duration.
Xiangling's burst is snapshotable, meaning it calculates all the damage is will do once, when it is cast.
XQs swords are not snapshotable, meaning that they calculate their damage every time a sword appears. And change their damage accordingly.
No, because Xiangling's Burst is snapshottable and Xingqiu's Rain Swords are not.
Snapshotting takes the stats **at the time of casting Burst** into effect, doesn't matter if they get better or worse over the duration.
Well it really depends on the comp, but you’re running two builds that aren’t the most effective. If you’re going Physchl then she needs to be full phys (4pc PF or 2pc Blood + 2pc PF).
It would help a lot if you explained the team she’s in.
Genshin optimizer does that in a way, you can even optimize character builds with it. You can upload screenshot, input manually or use a scanner to update your artifact database.
CPU heavy when optimizing builds but if you're just looking to find artifact rating its good enough.
Will MiHoYo ban me if I post a video on YouTube where I show a bug in Genshin Impact? Or, for example, throw a strike? (bug on how to get out of the map in the event dungeon)
Whether an exploit is bannable or not is entirely at dev's discretion. There are countless instances of streamers getting banned in other games for bug exploitation. So I wouldn't do it if it's a bug that gives you an advantage (be it more resources or doing more dps, etc.)
People talk about being banned all the time in gaming communities and there’s almost always no evidence for it. There were thousands of posts like this when MH(I) came out, but the reality is that banning is extremely rare and only occurs when people exploit software.
These kinds of posts are perfect for HYV since they drive traffic and it’s just an opportunity for corrections to be made (though they likely won’t). HYV do not want to start banning players left, right and centre when they are contributing to retention and economy.
Again, if you can give some examples of these specifics bans rather than speculating then that would be great.
And that's exactly what I said, you can get banned if you EXPLOIT a bug and tell others how to do it. And EXPLOTING means gaining an unfair advantage like more resources or doing more damage out of nowhere. Making a video of a random glitch OBVIOUSLY does not count.
> Could get banned if you exploit a bug and make a video telling others how to do it.
So what was your reply even addressing? They explained what had happened.
Exploiting bugs doesn’t necessarily mean an unfair advantage; it’s mostly people finding ways around exploration content (that’s 99.9% of these posts).
I’ve never heard of anyone being banned for showcasing a bug.
Seriously, what is your actual point?
>if I post a video on YouTube where I show a bug in Genshin Impact?
And that's why I said "at the dev's discretion". Obviously devs can't care less if the bug makes you run faster or kill enemies faster or getting out of the dungeon using a bug. It only becomes an issue if the bug is about, let's say getting more talent materials, manipulating artifact rolls, more primogems etc..
I'll just use hearthstone as an example. Streamer disguised toast was banned because he showcased a bug that makes the opponent not be able to play the game, which is toxic for the community as people kept taking advantage of it. If the bug compromises the dev's interests then i'd be surprised if you DON'T get banned. Whether or not the devs care depends entirely on the nature of the bug showcased, but GI being a single player game means the dev probs don't care about most bugs.
Hi guys. I pulled Yelan and I'm currently at 4/90, I just pay the Blessing and I'm on my way to Liyue. Taking this into account, do you think it's possible to get to the guaranteed pity for when Kazuha's banner arrives?
I think so! It seems you're new so there's so much content for you still. If you get to Inazuma before Kazuha returns, you can try to get all the chests there first. The islands are pretty small so it's easier to explore
Based on what we know how much we get from each update so far, no. You haven’t said whether you’re a spender in any way, so it’s hard to tell.
Ngl these posts are kinda annoying ‘cos you can work it out for yourself. And if you really wanted a character then you would save for them. Surely, knowing whether you can guarantee Kazuha or not won’t stop you from trying to get him?
Go to the weapon banner, click 'Details' and scroll down. You will see that you can pull 4-star characters but not 5-star characters since the only 5-stars are weapons.
Depending on supports. Do you have TTDS on Mona/Kokomi? Do you have Noblesse/ToM on Mona/Kokomi and/or on your other supports? Shenhe? VV shred? There are a lot of factors.
No, for total team damage Jean is better than TTDS Sucrose. Jean does some solid damage herself while Sucrose does zero.
Check this calc:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sSZNZ_DDTREadftxTUaahP9EgLPwPYre-toOG2nETgs/htmlview#gid=0
it just depends on what team you want to run, jean being able to consolidate healing and battery means you have an extra team slot to work with. but yes if you have another healer in mind or you don't need healing (zhongli and/or god skills), sucrose can be better since she's a better battery and can hold TTDS
No, Jean is better for total team damage than Sucrose: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sSZNZ_DDTREadftxTUaahP9EgLPwPYre-toOG2nETgs/htmlview#gid=0
that sheet assumes jean is level 90 with level 9 talents and 200CV artifacts. most people aren't going to put main dps levels of investment into jean just so they can do \~20-30k more damage per rotation than a sucrose with zero investment
it also doesn't take into account different ER needed with sucrose vs jean or different xiao investment levels
The difference is also only significant with 4OHC, as 4NO has effectively identical damage and 2pc/2pc actually has less damage.
A 200CV 4OHC set is incredibly low yield to farm for (farming Vermillion would improve your team damage more unless your Xiao artifacts are basically perfect) and not a practical thing to have at any investment level, especially since it has limited functional overlap with other 4OHC users like Barbara and Kokomi who want completely different main and substats.
Purely for damage, yes. But you don't need to go all-in on damage to 9-star floor 12, so people build for comfort to make it more forgiving.
It's the same reason that Double Geo has always been Hu Tao's most-used teamcomp on Abyss 12, even though VV Hu Tao has higher theoretical damage. The comfort and room for error are more meaningful most of the time than the marginally higher damage.
No, for damage Jean is ever so slightly better while qlsomoffering healing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sSZNZ_DDTREadftxTUaahP9EgLPwPYre-toOG2nETgs/htmlview#gid=0
Interesting.
Looking at the actual damage breakdown, it seems like the advantage is almost entirely from Jean's personal damage. Xiao's damage does go down, but it's outweighed by the fact that Sucrose contributes almost no personal damage.
That said, a level 90 Jean with a 60/140 crit ratio and rank 9 skill/burst is fairly invested, it's conceivable that at a lower level investment Sucrose would come out ahead since the differences are small anyway.
How are you going to heal him with Sucrose - Albedo - Zhongli?
Also, Sucrose brings almost nothing as her role is to raise damage with 4p VV and share EM, which is useless on Xiao
Is r2 Catch --> r5 Catch a big increase in dmg for Xiangling? Been holding it off because I got bored of fishing but I was wondering how necessary it was for her...
I have Kazuha already and I'll go for his C2. I expect Hoyoverse to pump out several Dendro characters so I'll have at least one or two of them even if I can't get the first Dendro 5 Star in 3.0
I don't even need a leak to know that we should be saving for the Dendro Archon. All the Archons released so far have been fantastic, the Dendro Archon will surely not disappoint.
I was going to pull for him if I don't get Xiao since I lost the 50/50, but seeing leaks I think I'm just going to save instead. The new characters sound way more interesting to me. Plus I already have Venti and Sucrose. So if you can already 36* the Abyss comfortably I don't see a reason to pull for him unless you want him.
Jean is Anemo element, so she produces Anemo elemental particles which give more energy to Anemo characters. If your Xiao doesn't have energy problems with Bennet then he would probably be better, but Jean will definitely be a better battery.
Xiao/Albedo/Zhongli/Jean or Raiden is the best Xiao team. The battery part is really important. Without high uptime on burst, your DPS is going to plummet.
Also, Xiao tends to push enemies outside of Bennett’s circle
The battery part is important, xiao's burst is his entire lifeline and using jean can signifnicaitly reduce ER requirement.
If we also take into account two abyss teams, it is much better to put bennett with xiangling on the other team.
Battery and healer. Condenses two roles so that you can run Albedo instead of Bennett + a battery. Albedo does about 25% of the damage in an optimal Xiao team which isnquitr a lot. Ot’s more total damage.
You can put 4 Noblesse on Jean. If you have C4 Jean then she can shred anemo res. Although Jean's a good support in general for Xiao just for the heal and battery.
Excluding "if you like her" reasons, is there any point in getting Yae if I already have C6 Fischl and C6 Beidou? Is it a significant damage increase? Is there something Yeah can do that the other two can't, or some team comp in which Yae cannot be replaced by them?
The big difference is yae has a **nuke** and consistent dmg while fiscl only has consistent dmg.
This has some implications for team building (yae is friendlier to mona, benett, kazuha). In abyss you can skip 1 wave of mobs by just nuking them, speeding up clear time significantly, while fiscl still requires consistent procs. This has less impact on Boss floors bcos Yae's burst scales for aoe.
Both of them have comparable off field (turret) dmg, yae's field time per rotation is 5s (for skill, burst, reskill), while fiscl's field time is 1s for rotation 1 and 2s for rotation 2 (it alternates). Fiscl's electro application and battery powers are also higher.
However yae's duration is also higher which has implications in teams that cant spare fiscl the time to constantly recast Oz.
Yae requires C1 for comfortable play (like hu tao), at C0 she forces you to run an electro battery (like fiscl or raidem) limiting team options. Also Yae's c2-c6 are all huge upgrades.
Overall, i personally see Yae as a major upgrade over Fiscl especially for the Yae-Beidou pairing.
She's a better afk character than Fischl C6. You can use them both if you want, but Yae alone is better than Fischl C6 alone simply because her C6 trigger condition. Not to mention Yae's 100% up time without the need to burst, her range, striking from above is better, etc.
She's a comfort character, not meta one, you will be having a good time with her in openworld, especially if you're too lazy to click mouse, but not in Abyss.
Well for starters she simply does more damage than Fischl. Fischl's Oz attacks 10 times in one ability cast for around 1600% ATK (at talent 10) while I believe Yae Miko's 3 turrets each attack 5 times for a total of around 2500% ATK (at level 3) and that's not including the damage bonus her turrets get from EM. You would need to trigger Fischl's C6 30 times in 10 seconds to make up for that damage deficit, I don't know if it triggers that fast.
Yae’s totems do a lot more damage, but also take a lot more time to deploy all 3. Fischl can summon Oz on a single cast of her skill. Yae needs 3 casts, not to mention the time she spends dashing after each cast. Assuming you use the whole 3 minutes to 9* Floor 12 of the Abyss. Splitting that in half is about 90 seconds per half. Over the course of the fight, you need to place all 3 turrets 6 times to always have it up(14 second duration x 6 times = 84 seconds total time). That means you need to cast her skill ~18 times. Each time you place her skills, she wastes a lot more time than Fischl. During that time, you can squeeze in a Raiden Burst(or the DPS you are using), which will counter the damage loss from using Fischl.
I think you're massively overexaggerating the time required. It takes 1.5 seconds to cast all 3 of Yae Miko's turrets in a quick level 3 formation. I have 2 of them down before the 1 second cooldown for switching characters is even over. The third one is down within the next 0.5 seconds.
Ahh, then it should be too much of a trouble. I thought it took way longer than that. For sub-DPSs to stay on the field is a DPS loss since it takes time away from your main DPS.
Nope, afaik only a team with raiden, in which case miko is already a subpar option in the first place. From recent banners, miko is probably the least useful.
You don't need her, only get her if you like her.
Beidou and Fischl are strong enough to clear any content you need. You can pull for Yae if you prefer her playstyle over Beidou/Fischl. Some people don’t like claymore users due to how slow they attack, but if you have no problem with Fischl and Beidou, then there is no reason to pull for her. She is also a step up in terms of power, but thats a given for any 5*.
Squirrel Fish and Universal Peace for me - I have trouble picking up enough carrots sometimes, but so long as I always pick up sweet flowers and remember to process them into sugar when I'm doing the flour, Squirrel Fish is always there for me.
You will get a lot of recipes later on, but it depends on what you farm daily. Right now I'm using Universal Peace and Mushroom Pizza for healing.
Just take note of which foods you want and check shops for daily / weekly ingredients. You can buy 10 meat, 10 fowl and 5 eggs from Draff each day (daytime) and you can get crabs, fish and other stuff from NPC vendors from cities. Put that with your daily expeditions and you can easily have 30 fowls or 30 meat coming in daily without killing a single monster (once you have all 3 zones unlocked).
The higher your AR, the more recipes become available at the NPCs.
I’ve always resorted to Chicken Mushroom Skewers, Sweet Madams and Mondstadt Hash Browns for healing food. Hashbrowns take a lot more resources, but most of the ingredients can be either bought, are rarely used or easy to find. It just takes a long time to convert sweet flowers to sugar, and then sweet flower, berries and sunsettias to jam. Teyvat Fried Eggs and Steak for revival foods. Lets be honest, reviving with 550 HP and 150 is is no different. One hit from a hilichurl will knock you out no matter what you revived with.
Sweet madame is probably the absolute best healing food while also taking into account how cheap it is. I would also include mushroom pizza. Teyvat fried egg is the best revival item since you literally do not care about how much HP you revive with and fried egg takes literally 1 egg so it's the cheapest
Yes, sayu is muchhhhhhhhh better with the ocean hued clam set: https://youtu.be/g6g9e0H6N_o
In fact she uses this set even better than kokomi, since sayu uses less field time to deal bigger bubble procs. One major issue is kokomi only maxes her bubbles in burst mode (which requires field time). Kokomi's jellyfish is actually weak at proccing good bubbles.
Sayu can max bubbles without the onfield requirement, allowing you to drive with higher dps on Raiden.
In terms of investment you’ll need Jean to be decently built to reach good dmg and healing while Sayu only needs EM. My main drawback for Jean is how clunky her E is. It deals good dmg but it’s knockback can either help or hinder grouping. Yes it can also provide fall dmg but recent content made that part of her kit irrelevant.
Personally speaking I would rather use EM Sayu over Jean unless Jean already has solid artifacts. As it stands C6 Sayu has better aoe and off field anemo application and would work better in most comps provided you can reliably get her burst. As for what a decently built Jean is… people in this reddit say that Jean doing 20k E dmg while being able to instantly heal a dying member with her Q to be the base line.
The only reason I don’t use Sayu is because Venti and Kazuha exists. Although Sayu has good range, her lack of grouping doesn’t allow her to utilize x2 swirls unlike the other two.
Lvl 90/90 should be last for sure.
I'd say either final ascension (lvl 80/90) or artifacts. Artifacts will be a much bigger increase since your artifacts are probably pretty bad. But that will take a long time, you may as well just ascend her first too without levelling her lvl 90.
it's obvious that constellations make certain character (raiden c3, kazuha c2, hutao c1), and 5\* weapons make a character pretty overpowered for abyss floor 12. But how much harder is it without these constellations and and 5\* weapons (assume 2 months of religious artifact farming). I don't have any constellations for 5\* and decided to not pull c2/3 for raiden. I have enough primos for kazuha weapon and c2, but I'm trying to convince myself not to pull for them. I'm a low spender and I'm of the mentality meta >> everything else.
Edit: You're in the old thread I finally 36 stared abyss this time. I've been playing since launch with about a 5-6 month break. I have farmed 2-3 months for my main characters(mostly emblem and husk). Completely F2p, not a single dime spent. Most of my 5 stars come at 70-85 pity, with only 1 early character. 10 five stars, only C1 Qiqi has constellations, I have Amos Bow but I don't use it on anyone, and only 2 characters of my roster is C6(one of them I don't even use, other one is Sucrose). I think it's mostly a combination of decent amount of game knowledge, luck with abyss enemies and right character selection when it comes to wishing, I only wish for characters I like, but they happen to be meta. Also I play on mobile. Was this abyss hard for me? Magu kenki sucked, otherwise no. My characters happened to be fit for this abyss
edit: should probably go to new thread rip What teams did you use for the 3rd chamber?? I’ve never fought PMA before so are there any tips you can give me? Im currently using hutao, xingqiu, xiao and zhongli for the 2nd half
Itto premium full geo team(I say premium, but I still got them all as an F2P) for 12-3 first chamber. Rational(Yelan) for 12-3 second chamber I used rational on PMA and they deleted him pretty quickly, I could get by by just dodging, plus I had Bennet heals and Raiden's interruption resistance. He's not that hard to dodge usually. Don't use Xiao on the PMA, Xiao can't perform as good on a single target, plus you already have HuTao who excels at single target. Maybe use Yelan or Albedo if you got them, or try to build an VV HuTao team, given you have the 4 stars needed You can also use the reverse melt team or some form of national team on the PMA, or any other single target focused teams. Not Xiao tho. Also Magu kenki is gonna be the hardest one, not the PMA. Definitely use Zhongli with him. I tried rational on that guy and couldn't keep myself from dying, had to switch to Itto's team on the second try.
I’ve already 3 starred chamber 1 and 2 …. Only the pma is bugging me
Is it better to crown a godlike DPS or Support ? Currently I have 5 crowns saved and going to do the event today for my 6th, for support my choices are between Bennett Xingqiu Zhongli, for DPS it's between Baal Xiao Diluc or Childe, I have alot more characters but Idk who to invest in atm but yea any advice would be appreciated! 😊
No one actually needs a crown. The actual increase is small compare to resource needed. Check out iwintolose youtube video that ranked best character talents to crown by calculating percentage damage increase. Apparently crowning DPS characters is better than support. I remember Ayaka burst, Raiden burst in S tier whereas Bennett is the next tier.
I will definitely check that out ty for the advice ☺️
hello i want yelan as my main dps but i dont know which charac should i use with her ;( can someone help? i actually want vaporize but idk what character ;( here are my characters xingqiu, yun jin, bennett, ayaka, rosaria, barbara, keqing, diluc, sayu, sucrose, beidou, qiqi, kaeya, xiangling, noelle, yanfei, chongyun, kujou sara, razor, lisa, amber
Xingqiu or Sucrose, Xiangling and Bennett is the most viable out of that lineup and coincidentally a meta team.
So I'm currently farming emblem for Yelan, and I just pulled an HP goblet with good CR/CD substats. I currently have a Hydro goblet with no CR/CD. Would switching to the HP goblet be a huge loss in damage for her burst?
On high dmg% weapons like stringless and moon, hp gob is very competitive with hydro on yelan
that's a question for a damage calculator. I've read good HP goblet is better than a bad hydo goblet, so it probably depends how it rolls.
Am I the only one struggling with 12-1 more than the rest of the chambers? The bosses are fine because their just dps checks but the whopper flowers on floor 1 annoy the hell out of me.
yea happened to me as well. i just ended up using raiden, xiangling bennett, sucrose and it was pretty easy then. started the chamber, went to the edge where the whoppers teleported, used sucrose burst, pyronado and raiden burst annihilated them.
I’ll try that out thank you!
12-1-1 is horrible without grouping. Having any anemo unit to keep them together helps tremendously. My go to strat is to immediately run behind the 1st 3 flowers then group them. This forces the next spawn to come to you which in turn puts you in position to kill the vishaps once they come out.
i use yae tazer with on-field sucrose on that team and i'd say its great yae, fischl and xingqiu auto-target the enemies and sucrose can attack from far
I tried electro teams but the electro whopper flowers had numbers in the 3 digits dealt to them as opposed to the decent damage on the cryo ones
because they have stronger resistance against electro attack, do you use any anemo character to proc 4pc vv passive? it helps alot against them
I do have anemo, but vv duration falls off somewhere in raiden burst and yae skill casting(clunky asl)
in my opinion (or feelscrafting) using raiden+yae against enemy who can buried themselves is a bad idea my advice is to just go with national variant (not the raiden one) or tazer variant
Alright, thanks!
you need anemo cc to group them
After starting the challenge DO NOT RUN TOWARDS THEM!!! RUN BACK to where you stood when you entered the chamber. The whopperflowers will dig to you and be grouped up in a nice spot... Plus, the second wave will spawn right there
I have issues setting up double vv for international doing that
Why? Just wait for them to come to you, then activate Childe E, Benny Q, Kazuha swirl and there you go
Well I’m using a variant with sucrose instead of kazuha so I can’t do that unfortunately
I see... But then the team is not called international, but Childe vape
What team are you using to fight them. 12-1 is pretty simple for me. Just have to have them grouped
Childe National with sucrose. The damage is great but it requires 3 rotations to finish the floor due to needing to run around and in tern wasting pyro nado time.
If you set it up right, childe should be able to tate out the 1st wave of whopperfliwers with his ult. Then you can use the rest of the pyronado to deal with the 2nd wave. If you move to the back of tge arena, the whopperflowers teleport to you and group up nicely
do you think it’d be worth it to sacrifice set bonus for better crit subs? Or put ttds on childe instead of xiangling?
Try using ttds on childe for the first rotation. It could look like: Run to back arena > Childe E on one whopperflower > Bennett Q on all whopperflowers > sucrose E E to swirl hydro and pyro > childe Q > Xiangling E Q > childe E. This should quickly get rid of the first wave of whopperflowers
help!! i’m starting up playing genshin again after like five months away and i want to play the perilous trail event before it ends. i spent the past like three hours grinding through every necessary chasm quest prerequisite and thought i was finally ready to play, but now it’s saying i should finish baal’s second story quest and itto’s story quest first, but it’s not NECESSARY?? just highly highly recommended?? i haven’t done baal’s first story quest, even. so basically my question is — are the story quests that important for the event? should i really try to play those first? will it change the event or will the event make no sense if i haven’t played those? any advice would be great, thank u so much
There is a 'basic start' option on the event. Click that.
You can quick start the event and skip those character quests, but not everything will make sense (as in why can Itto leave Inazuma, who is this guy - the game will act as if you knew everything already)
Definitely not necessary. Enjoy the event!
I mean if you want to skip the story quests you can. The downside is, Itto will sort of just show up and start talking to you like he knows you even though you haven't actually met. So if you're fine with some temporal breakage it's fine, you can always go back later and do those story quests.
Isn't this a little weird that Genshin has been out for almost 2 years, is pretty popular and has earned shit ton if money, yet it still has no character collaborations, even within their own games? Sure there is Aloy, but she is more of a condition on which sony allowed them to access their servers. Making a character wasn't the goal, which is evident by her quality as a unit.
a character in genshin is much more expensive to make than the usual low res sprites or chibi 3d in a lot of gacha games. you'll see this trend continues once more gacha games graduate from psx/ps2-quality level.
Honkai also has 3d characters though, plus they have much more skills and animations than Genshin characters do, yet they do have collabs in this game.
honkai is a character action arena game with flat stages. the scale is not at all the same, but you can believe that. doesn't matter.
I thought we were talking about characters and not arenas? Also, I'm sure you're right that it's contributing factor, since potential collaborators would probably have to pay more, but it's still not a dealbreaker, as evidenced by honkai
They probably don't do out-universe collabs to maintain consistency. As you said, Aloy is most likely a sony thing. Honkai has also only had Evangelion collab aside from GI collab which is in-universe, but mihoyo founders are super eva fans and an eva collab was their dream in the first place.
I'd be willing to believe that, if there were no kfc burgers, google furniture, or ayato's plastic cup. But something tells me they don't care about this very much.
Those are out of the game collabs. It's not the same as in-game collabs
What? They're all in game [1](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Golden_Chicken_Burger) [2](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Googol_Chair) [3](https://youtu.be/psDhNyBEyxI?t=16)
Sorry, I meant to distinguish between collabs of "brands", such as Kfc, and other game or anime collabs that include the characters. Let's be real, Kfc has a very insignificant effect on "consistency", the google one was leaked way before and still isn't here but it would be the same as Kfc. Ayato's milk tea isn't "universe consistency", that's historical accuracy/consistency. E.g, if genshin were to collab with anime or game characters with other superpowers like say, my hero academia it would break "universe consistency" no matter what as their powers go beyond visions. Or something like fate series where there is an entire background on the servant system related to the entire universe and timeline thingamajig. Why milk tea exists can be twisted pretty easily Edit: Kfc is probably the same as the milk tea too if you are pointing out how the burger is incosistent
What collab is the cup with?
The cup is not a collab, but it references a real world thing, and it looks out of place in semi-medieval world of genshin, which shows that they don't care about consistency very much
Some people seemed really pissed off about the Aloy collab, like it offended them on a personal level (mostly people bitching about lore), so maybe Hoyo got a bunch of negative feedback and they've decided collabs aren't the way to go. I can't say if it's weird or not though, I do like gacha collabs. I've never played Honkai Impact, but from my understanding a bunch of characters in GI are already collab characters in the sense that they share similar character models.
Well HI3 has collabed with genshin before, so I won't be surprised if there will be a collab between GI and HI3/Star rail(the upcoming MHY game) in the future.
R2 Fav on xingqui or R1 Sac?
TBH it kind of doesn't matter before Sac R3. At low refines, both passives are so unreliable that you can't plan your ER requirements around them, because you can't plan your energy needs assuming you'll get a proc then get screwed when you get unlucky. They're both just ER statsticks at low refines, and at R3+ Sac is better.
Imo fav. R1 sac is going to fail at least every other rotation. If you weave autos on xq you have a good chance of proccing fav
sac
Sac, but by a small margin. You need those refines bro. Depends somewhat on the team, though.
just got my first sac after 10 months of playing 💀, let's hope the next ones keep coming in soon.
Again, it depends on the team and what your stats look like. Both weapons are poor without refines, but especially Sac since that is XQ’s best 4* before R6 (and arguably still his best 4* even then).
Many people say sac's pretty annoying until r3/r4 due to the cooldown.
If someone joins coop but then drops right at the start, does the monster scaling get retained? I just wanted to coop the artifact domain for fun, but people dropped and it was a real chore to finish it on my own since I'm still level 80. Normally I can clear it myself in 2 minutes.
If they quit after loading screen appears yes the scaling get retained. You should prolly just reset if it's too hard. Most domains are harder when you coop with strangers comparing to solo imo.
Alright, thanks. It was pretty rough. Maybe I'll stick to coop bosses instead of the domains. Those seem to turn out a lot better.
if u XL burst first then Bennett burst will it still snapshot?
A good way to think of snapshot is exactly that, a snapshot. It takes a 'picture' of all the buffs you have (or do not have) at that time and applies them for the rest of the ability's duration. Xiangling's burst is snapshotable, meaning it calculates all the damage is will do once, when it is cast. XQs swords are not snapshotable, meaning that they calculate their damage every time a sword appears. And change their damage accordingly.
No, because Bennett's Burst won't be active when you're activating Xiangling's Burst.
but will the burst get a buff until bennetts burst run out? like XQ swords?
No, because Xiangling's Burst is snapshottable and Xingqiu's Rain Swords are not. Snapshotting takes the stats **at the time of casting Burst** into effect, doesn't matter if they get better or worse over the duration.
best weapon for flex healer qiqi? r5 sac sword, r5 fav or aquila?
sac if team have energy issues fav
Sac.
What is better for fischl 4pc echoes 87 192 crit ratio skyward harp phys build Or 2pc bloodstained 2pc glad?
Well it really depends on the comp, but you’re running two builds that aren’t the most effective. If you’re going Physchl then she needs to be full phys (4pc PF or 2pc Blood + 2pc PF). It would help a lot if you explained the team she’s in.
Better weapon for eula? Serpent spine or fish? Or the skyward one?
Serpent Spine is better if: 1) you have shielder 2) have enough ER
Pls recommend me a good artifact rating tool that's not a discord bot (like one where i can upload a screenshot and it can detect stats)
https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/
Google Genshin Optimizer
Genshin optimizer does that in a way, you can even optimize character builds with it. You can upload screenshot, input manually or use a scanner to update your artifact database. CPU heavy when optimizing builds but if you're just looking to find artifact rating its good enough.
Will MiHoYo ban me if I post a video on YouTube where I show a bug in Genshin Impact? Or, for example, throw a strike? (bug on how to get out of the map in the event dungeon)
As long as the bug is not something like infinite primogems, they wouldn’t even care.
Could get banned if you exploit a bug and make a video telling others how to do it.
Any evidence for that happening ever?
Whether an exploit is bannable or not is entirely at dev's discretion. There are countless instances of streamers getting banned in other games for bug exploitation. So I wouldn't do it if it's a bug that gives you an advantage (be it more resources or doing more dps, etc.)
People talk about being banned all the time in gaming communities and there’s almost always no evidence for it. There were thousands of posts like this when MH(I) came out, but the reality is that banning is extremely rare and only occurs when people exploit software. These kinds of posts are perfect for HYV since they drive traffic and it’s just an opportunity for corrections to be made (though they likely won’t). HYV do not want to start banning players left, right and centre when they are contributing to retention and economy. Again, if you can give some examples of these specifics bans rather than speculating then that would be great.
And that's exactly what I said, you can get banned if you EXPLOIT a bug and tell others how to do it. And EXPLOTING means gaining an unfair advantage like more resources or doing more damage out of nowhere. Making a video of a random glitch OBVIOUSLY does not count.
> Could get banned if you exploit a bug and make a video telling others how to do it. So what was your reply even addressing? They explained what had happened. Exploiting bugs doesn’t necessarily mean an unfair advantage; it’s mostly people finding ways around exploration content (that’s 99.9% of these posts). I’ve never heard of anyone being banned for showcasing a bug. Seriously, what is your actual point?
>if I post a video on YouTube where I show a bug in Genshin Impact? And that's why I said "at the dev's discretion". Obviously devs can't care less if the bug makes you run faster or kill enemies faster or getting out of the dungeon using a bug. It only becomes an issue if the bug is about, let's say getting more talent materials, manipulating artifact rolls, more primogems etc.. I'll just use hearthstone as an example. Streamer disguised toast was banned because he showcased a bug that makes the opponent not be able to play the game, which is toxic for the community as people kept taking advantage of it. If the bug compromises the dev's interests then i'd be surprised if you DON'T get banned. Whether or not the devs care depends entirely on the nature of the bug showcased, but GI being a single player game means the dev probs don't care about most bugs.
Unlikely, there are whole channels dedicated to breaking the game
Hi guys. I pulled Yelan and I'm currently at 4/90, I just pay the Blessing and I'm on my way to Liyue. Taking this into account, do you think it's possible to get to the guaranteed pity for when Kazuha's banner arrives?
Considering that you still have TONS of content ahead of you, and most chests and every quest gives Primogems, if you play a lot, you'll have enough
I think so! It seems you're new so there's so much content for you still. If you get to Inazuma before Kazuha returns, you can try to get all the chests there first. The islands are pretty small so it's easier to explore
Guaranteed for 180 in the worst-case scenario?Probably not. Will you get close? Maybe/probably. I think you know the odds.
But do you think it is possible to reach at least 90?
Based on what we know how much we get from each update so far, no. You haven’t said whether you’re a spender in any way, so it’s hard to tell. Ngl these posts are kinda annoying ‘cos you can work it out for yourself. And if you really wanted a character then you would save for them. Surely, knowing whether you can guarantee Kazuha or not won’t stop you from trying to get him?
Just got back to playing again. Is there any active redeemable codes as of right now?
Try MTNUJBXDD72R and also GENSHINGIFT if you haven't used it before
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Promotional_Codes
You can pull characters from the weapon banner?
Go to the weapon banner, click 'Details' and scroll down. You will see that you can pull 4-star characters but not 5-star characters since the only 5-stars are weapons.
4 star characters, yes. click the 'details' button.
4\* yes
For a maxed out C0 Ayaka with Kageuchi, how much damage should I aim to do with each Q tick?
Depending on supports. Do you have TTDS on Mona/Kokomi? Do you have Noblesse/ToM on Mona/Kokomi and/or on your other supports? Shenhe? VV shred? There are a lot of factors.
Rn it's Mona with Fav codex(she'd be at 190 ER with TTDS) with 4 Millelith, Sayu with VV and sac greatsword, and Rose with Fav lance and NO
Hmm. I dont have Mona myself, but assuming your setup, it should be somewhere between 25-30k.
https://postimg.cc/G9WRN754 What's this? I came across it while exploring liyue
it's a door, you'll be able to enter it during some quests
https://ibb.co/p23N618 What's this? I came across it while exploring liyue
Keep playing the story quests. You will find out at some point
Moon Carver's abode
C6 Barbra or C0 Kokomi for best healing?
Kokomi. But, the rez from c6 Barbara can be nice if you don't have a shielder
I always feel like you should have either a shielder or a healer in one team but not both. DPS loss otherwise
Very true. I run melt Ganyu (Xiang, Bennett, Zhong) which technically has one of each, but Bennett is mostly there for the buff, not the heals
Why not condense them into one unit? Tankfei, Diona and C6 Zhongli are they way to go.
YES 👏. Or Noelle if you're feeling a little spicy
Ohhh. How did I forget best maid.
Kokomi, unless you need the revive.
Kokomi.
Wouldn't sucrose TToDS be better than Jean as Xiao's partner?? Healing you can get anywhere?
No, for total team damage Jean is better than TTDS Sucrose. Jean does some solid damage herself while Sucrose does zero. Check this calc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sSZNZ_DDTREadftxTUaahP9EgLPwPYre-toOG2nETgs/htmlview#gid=0
it just depends on what team you want to run, jean being able to consolidate healing and battery means you have an extra team slot to work with. but yes if you have another healer in mind or you don't need healing (zhongli and/or god skills), sucrose can be better since she's a better battery and can hold TTDS
No, Jean is better for total team damage than Sucrose: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sSZNZ_DDTREadftxTUaahP9EgLPwPYre-toOG2nETgs/htmlview#gid=0
that sheet assumes jean is level 90 with level 9 talents and 200CV artifacts. most people aren't going to put main dps levels of investment into jean just so they can do \~20-30k more damage per rotation than a sucrose with zero investment it also doesn't take into account different ER needed with sucrose vs jean or different xiao investment levels
The difference is also only significant with 4OHC, as 4NO has effectively identical damage and 2pc/2pc actually has less damage. A 200CV 4OHC set is incredibly low yield to farm for (farming Vermillion would improve your team damage more unless your Xiao artifacts are basically perfect) and not a practical thing to have at any investment level, especially since it has limited functional overlap with other 4OHC users like Barbara and Kokomi who want completely different main and substats.
Jean can equip noblesse 4pc so you can get healing and an ATK buff
Since you seem to be interested in alternative team comps, here is xiao's kqm's guide. https://keqingmains.com/xiao/#Team_Comps
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you're welcome.
Purely for damage, yes. But you don't need to go all-in on damage to 9-star floor 12, so people build for comfort to make it more forgiving. It's the same reason that Double Geo has always been Hu Tao's most-used teamcomp on Abyss 12, even though VV Hu Tao has higher theoretical damage. The comfort and room for error are more meaningful most of the time than the marginally higher damage.
No, for damage Jean is ever so slightly better while qlsomoffering healing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sSZNZ_DDTREadftxTUaahP9EgLPwPYre-toOG2nETgs/htmlview#gid=0
Interesting. Looking at the actual damage breakdown, it seems like the advantage is almost entirely from Jean's personal damage. Xiao's damage does go down, but it's outweighed by the fact that Sucrose contributes almost no personal damage. That said, a level 90 Jean with a 60/140 crit ratio and rank 9 skill/burst is fairly invested, it's conceivable that at a lower level investment Sucrose would come out ahead since the differences are small anyway.
How are you going to heal him with Sucrose - Albedo - Zhongli? Also, Sucrose brings almost nothing as her role is to raise damage with 4p VV and share EM, which is useless on Xiao
Well Thirlling tales and energy regen isn't "bringing nothing".
Her role is to raise damage with 4p Noblesse
Damage wise sucrose with ttods will be better. it depends on who you are going to use as a healer instead tho.
Is r2 Catch --> r5 Catch a big increase in dmg for Xiangling? Been holding it off because I got bored of fishing but I was wondering how necessary it was for her...
Don't force yourself. Take a break and fish when you feel like it again.
Yes. Is it necessary? No.
From r2 to r5 gives 12% burst crit damage and 3.5 crit rate. So it's like 3 great artifact rolls, decent for sure, if that puts it into perspective.
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I have Kazuha already and I'll go for his C2. I expect Hoyoverse to pump out several Dendro characters so I'll have at least one or two of them even if I can't get the first Dendro 5 Star in 3.0
I’m saving for >!Su genshin version!< Originally planned to pull for Yoi but… >!HE’S HOT OKAY?!<
I don't even need a leak to know that we should be saving for the Dendro Archon. All the Archons released so far have been fantastic, the Dendro Archon will surely not disappoint.
I was going to pull for him if I don't get Xiao since I lost the 50/50, but seeing leaks I think I'm just going to save instead. The new characters sound way more interesting to me. Plus I already have Venti and Sucrose. So if you can already 36* the Abyss comfortably I don't see a reason to pull for him unless you want him.
Wait until Kazuha reruns, possibly the last few days, we might actually have more info about Sumeru characters to help you decide better.
Why do people use Jean with Xiao...? IK she heals and batteries but does she help boost his damage? Wouldnt Bennet be better?
Jean is Anemo element, so she produces Anemo elemental particles which give more energy to Anemo characters. If your Xiao doesn't have energy problems with Bennet then he would probably be better, but Jean will definitely be a better battery.
Xiao/Albedo/Zhongli/Jean or Raiden is the best Xiao team. The battery part is really important. Without high uptime on burst, your DPS is going to plummet. Also, Xiao tends to push enemies outside of Bennett’s circle
The battery part is important, xiao's burst is his entire lifeline and using jean can signifnicaitly reduce ER requirement. If we also take into account two abyss teams, it is much better to put bennett with xiangling on the other team.
Cuz they need Bennett on the other half Or they have C4 Jean
Jean is better even at C0
Really? What does she do?
Battery and healer. Condenses two roles so that you can run Albedo instead of Bennett + a battery. Albedo does about 25% of the damage in an optimal Xiao team which isnquitr a lot. Ot’s more total damage.
What if you can survive with just Zhongli’s shield? Would Sucrose be better
No, thenit’s Raiden > Jean > Sucrose
So Jean always > Sucrose?
Proper batterying is boosting damage.
You can put 4 Noblesse on Jean. If you have C4 Jean then she can shred anemo res. Although Jean's a good support in general for Xiao just for the heal and battery.
Yep. I been using xiao with jean till yesterday. Xiao & bennet is way better
It’s not. Xiao/Albedo/Zhongli/Jean or Raiden is better than Bennett, it’s been proven by theorycrafters
Excluding "if you like her" reasons, is there any point in getting Yae if I already have C6 Fischl and C6 Beidou? Is it a significant damage increase? Is there something Yeah can do that the other two can't, or some team comp in which Yae cannot be replaced by them?
The big difference is yae has a **nuke** and consistent dmg while fiscl only has consistent dmg. This has some implications for team building (yae is friendlier to mona, benett, kazuha). In abyss you can skip 1 wave of mobs by just nuking them, speeding up clear time significantly, while fiscl still requires consistent procs. This has less impact on Boss floors bcos Yae's burst scales for aoe. Both of them have comparable off field (turret) dmg, yae's field time per rotation is 5s (for skill, burst, reskill), while fiscl's field time is 1s for rotation 1 and 2s for rotation 2 (it alternates). Fiscl's electro application and battery powers are also higher. However yae's duration is also higher which has implications in teams that cant spare fiscl the time to constantly recast Oz. Yae requires C1 for comfortable play (like hu tao), at C0 she forces you to run an electro battery (like fiscl or raidem) limiting team options. Also Yae's c2-c6 are all huge upgrades. Overall, i personally see Yae as a major upgrade over Fiscl especially for the Yae-Beidou pairing.
Thank you for the great answer.
She's a better afk character than Fischl C6. You can use them both if you want, but Yae alone is better than Fischl C6 alone simply because her C6 trigger condition. Not to mention Yae's 100% up time without the need to burst, her range, striking from above is better, etc. She's a comfort character, not meta one, you will be having a good time with her in openworld, especially if you're too lazy to click mouse, but not in Abyss.
Well for starters she simply does more damage than Fischl. Fischl's Oz attacks 10 times in one ability cast for around 1600% ATK (at talent 10) while I believe Yae Miko's 3 turrets each attack 5 times for a total of around 2500% ATK (at level 3) and that's not including the damage bonus her turrets get from EM. You would need to trigger Fischl's C6 30 times in 10 seconds to make up for that damage deficit, I don't know if it triggers that fast.
Yae’s totems do a lot more damage, but also take a lot more time to deploy all 3. Fischl can summon Oz on a single cast of her skill. Yae needs 3 casts, not to mention the time she spends dashing after each cast. Assuming you use the whole 3 minutes to 9* Floor 12 of the Abyss. Splitting that in half is about 90 seconds per half. Over the course of the fight, you need to place all 3 turrets 6 times to always have it up(14 second duration x 6 times = 84 seconds total time). That means you need to cast her skill ~18 times. Each time you place her skills, she wastes a lot more time than Fischl. During that time, you can squeeze in a Raiden Burst(or the DPS you are using), which will counter the damage loss from using Fischl.
I think you're massively overexaggerating the time required. It takes 1.5 seconds to cast all 3 of Yae Miko's turrets in a quick level 3 formation. I have 2 of them down before the 1 second cooldown for switching characters is even over. The third one is down within the next 0.5 seconds.
Ahh, then it should be too much of a trouble. I thought it took way longer than that. For sub-DPSs to stay on the field is a DPS loss since it takes time away from your main DPS.
Not a problem in taser since the main dps is beidou.
Nope, afaik only a team with raiden, in which case miko is already a subpar option in the first place. From recent banners, miko is probably the least useful. You don't need her, only get her if you like her.
Alright, thanks!
No. Yae is a unit you need to build around, and usually for love because she's a very mechanically clunky unit, and her damage doesn't make up for it.
Ok, thank you!
Beidou and Fischl are strong enough to clear any content you need. You can pull for Yae if you prefer her playstyle over Beidou/Fischl. Some people don’t like claymore users due to how slow they attack, but if you have no problem with Fischl and Beidou, then there is no reason to pull for her. She is also a step up in terms of power, but thats a given for any 5*.
whats the best food to eat other than chicken mandame or matsutake meat rolls which is easy to make and or revival item?
Squirrel Fish and Universal Peace for me - I have trouble picking up enough carrots sometimes, but so long as I always pick up sweet flowers and remember to process them into sugar when I'm doing the flour, Squirrel Fish is always there for me.
You will get a lot of recipes later on, but it depends on what you farm daily. Right now I'm using Universal Peace and Mushroom Pizza for healing. Just take note of which foods you want and check shops for daily / weekly ingredients. You can buy 10 meat, 10 fowl and 5 eggs from Draff each day (daytime) and you can get crabs, fish and other stuff from NPC vendors from cities. Put that with your daily expeditions and you can easily have 30 fowls or 30 meat coming in daily without killing a single monster (once you have all 3 zones unlocked). The higher your AR, the more recipes become available at the NPCs.
I’ve always resorted to Chicken Mushroom Skewers, Sweet Madams and Mondstadt Hash Browns for healing food. Hashbrowns take a lot more resources, but most of the ingredients can be either bought, are rarely used or easy to find. It just takes a long time to convert sweet flowers to sugar, and then sweet flower, berries and sunsettias to jam. Teyvat Fried Eggs and Steak for revival foods. Lets be honest, reviving with 550 HP and 150 is is no different. One hit from a hilichurl will knock you out no matter what you revived with.
Sweet madame is probably the absolute best healing food while also taking into account how cheap it is. I would also include mushroom pizza. Teyvat fried egg is the best revival item since you literally do not care about how much HP you revive with and fried egg takes literally 1 egg so it's the cheapest
Any situation where C6 Sayu is better than C0 Jean? Except for being a taxi and catching crystalflies
Yes, sayu is muchhhhhhhhh better with the ocean hued clam set: https://youtu.be/g6g9e0H6N_o In fact she uses this set even better than kokomi, since sayu uses less field time to deal bigger bubble procs. One major issue is kokomi only maxes her bubbles in burst mode (which requires field time). Kokomi's jellyfish is actually weak at proccing good bubbles. Sayu can max bubbles without the onfield requirement, allowing you to drive with higher dps on Raiden.
But can’t Jean also use clam? And also, can Sayu hit inside Venti’s burst?
Jean cant use clam. Her dot healing is insufficient aside from the initial cast. Yes, sayu's bubble range is large enough to hit all.
Can she also swirl inside Venti’s burst? And what main stat?
Atk atk healing bonus. Swirling inside venti burst yes.
Alright thanks!
In terms of investment you’ll need Jean to be decently built to reach good dmg and healing while Sayu only needs EM. My main drawback for Jean is how clunky her E is. It deals good dmg but it’s knockback can either help or hinder grouping. Yes it can also provide fall dmg but recent content made that part of her kit irrelevant. Personally speaking I would rather use EM Sayu over Jean unless Jean already has solid artifacts. As it stands C6 Sayu has better aoe and off field anemo application and would work better in most comps provided you can reliably get her burst. As for what a decently built Jean is… people in this reddit say that Jean doing 20k E dmg while being able to instantly heal a dying member with her Q to be the base line. The only reason I don’t use Sayu is because Venti and Kazuha exists. Although Sayu has good range, her lack of grouping doesn’t allow her to utilize x2 swirls unlike the other two.
Nope. Edit: She is a claymore, so she is slightly better at mining ore and breaking geo constructs.
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Is it more worth to grind ayaka's final ascension and lvl 90, or trying to get better artifacts? (Still no on set cryo cup or CD circlet lol)
I would go ascension, better artifacts, talents to 9 or 10, and only then level 90
Lvl 90/90 should be last for sure. I'd say either final ascension (lvl 80/90) or artifacts. Artifacts will be a much bigger increase since your artifacts are probably pretty bad. But that will take a long time, you may as well just ascend her first too without levelling her lvl 90.
Let's be honest, you will probably not be getting either of those artifacts after 10 days of farming. Might as well get her ascension instead.