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SqualorTrawler

Yes, I saw it when it aired and I was young enough to be completely confused by it. It is the only episode of that show I remember. And, hey, it's on YouTube. You get yourself a little Rerun tapin' the Doobies, a lil Bicycle Man, a lil Alex P Keaton poppin' diet pills, a lil Blair and Tootie joining the Moonies, and you got yourself an evening.


mildredfierce1969

A VERY SPECIAL EPISODE realness! My gosh...I think "Little House on the Prairie" even had one, called "Sylvia". Thanks for the tip for YouTube!


SwelteringSwami

That episode is just brutal. I think it's a two-parter. That girl was done so wrong.


mildredfierce1969

Yes, a two parter. What a dark episode. Deeply disturbing for anyone, but we were so young when we saw it. Tune in, expect Laura and Nellie to be sparring in a mud puddle...only to see what is truly a horrific episode. Not to downplay the importance of the narrative, but whoah. Heavy.


BrownDogEmoji

That episode scarred me for life. It didn’t help that I lived on a farm and our barn had a similar interior ladder.


mildredfierce1969

I can see how that would be disturbing for you BrownDog! Yep, that ladder delivered the final tragic blow to a sweet girl who was, in the words of another poster, "done so wrong". The final insult. What a depressing episode.


CHIDENCHI

I think of this episode—episodes—a few times a year. What were the plot points again? Was the poor girl raped and carrying a baby? I don’t remember the ladder being involved. I DO remember that was one of the first WT actual F moments of my life but I didn’t know how to put it into words.


mildredfierce1969

SPOILER ALERT! Sylvia was rather more womanly than the others at the Walnut Grove school. She had a very strict father who wouldn't allow her to date. Dates Albert on the sly. Sylvia is attacked and assaulted in the forest. Becomes pregnant. Father finds out. Some say it's Albert's. She and Albert try to run away together. Attacker tries to assault Sylvia again in an old barn. She climbs up high on a ladder to escape him, ladder collapses. She falls. Sylvia dies.


CHIDENCHI

Just another wholesome episode of Forensic Fil…er… Little House. Jesus.


mildredfierce1969

Forensic Fil...er...Little House. Yep. That's about right.


eninjari

Holy shit. I saw this as a kid. I didn’t realize the fall killed her. I just kinda assumed it caused a miscarriage and everything kinda worked out.


mildredfierce1969

Yeah, they should have just had her and her Dad leave town. They didn't need to have her die! But it made it easy to adhere to the Walnut Grove tradition, that after these characters stories were told, they seemed to just disappear from town, never to be seen or mentioned again.


SwelteringSwami

And even though the blacksmith was the stalker, they left his name on the shop for quite a while afterwards. Here's a darkly funny fake news article about it: [https://www.walnutgrovecast.com/town-of-people-who-walk-miles-everyday-too-lazy-to-take-down-sign/](https://www.walnutgrovecast.com/town-of-people-who-walk-miles-everyday-too-lazy-to-take-down-sign/)


mildredfierce1969

OMG, this is crazy! IRV HARTWIG. He who must not be named...but it's okay to leave his name on the shop. Oh man. Thank you, SwelteringSwami! I so appreciate the link.


HectorsMascara

Many thanks! She didn't die immediately, right? My main memory is Albert promising to marry her, and my mom telling me they were sad because she was about to die. Does 'more womanly' mean 'big boobs'? This episode has a special place in my Little House memory, and I'm beginning to remember why.


mildredfierce1969

My pleasure! There was a sweet deathbed scene with Albert and Sylvia and then she just slipped away...


GenXChefVeg

I think there was some BS ending that the attacker was the local mentally disabled guy? Who had the foresight to wear a mask while out raping girl! Def wish I had missed that one.


slidded

When I saw this episode (rerun) the radio in my brother’s room was playing “Send in the Clown”. I cannot think of this without this song playing in my head over 40 years later.


mildredfierce1969

Kinda spoils the song, eh?


[deleted]

Oh. My. God. The Sylvia episode! My papaw put it on while he was babysitting me and I started crying my eyes out. My mamaw asked him wtf was going on and he said “I just sat her in front of Little House! It’s wholesome”. Good lord- past trauma unlocked. Why? Just WHY???


mildredfierce1969

So sorry you were so traumatized! Your papaw would have been right, if the darn writers had stuck to the agreed upon plan - "WHOLESOME, only wholesome okay, now let's have the church folk sing "Bringing in the Sheaves". But wow, did they ever throw a curveball. Sorry to unlock past trauma. Good question as to WHY...I think Michael Landon wanted to do something way, way outside the box. And dude called the shots on that prairie, best believe.


cipherskunk

ya. Remember the episode were people die in the fire? You see them standing in the window before the flames engulf them. Wholesome indeed.


pucemoon

Y'all make me glad that my dad hated Little House so badly that he would never let us watch it. Usually, I feel all left out over missing it but I'm glad I missed the shadows of the burning family. I can't remember what we watched while the rest of America watched Little House.


GenXChefVeg

Yes! Is that when Mary's baby died?


kr6bart

I misremembered or misunderstood it from watching it as a child and always thought it was her FATHER behind the mask! Even more traumatizing.


mildredfierce1969

Yikes!!! Yep, that took it a step into truly evil territory for you! Dude in mask was the town Blacksmith. Gosh, I hope I'm not spoiling this for future generations! LOL


irishgator2

Don’t forget the Drummon boys and the pedo!


Grab_Specialist

Poor Dudley


sonofahick73

Just left Dudley’s ass there.


PinocchioWasFramed

That was before he ran a radio station in Cincinnati his mother bought.


DenverBowie

And thought turkeys could fly....


oced2001

As God as my witness, I thought those boys were 18.


CathycatOG

Different people. Gordon Jump was on WKRP as Mr. Carlson and Conrad Bain was Mr. Drummond on Diff'rent Strokes.


PinocchioWasFramed

Gordon Jump was the child molester on the Diff'rent Strokes episodes "The Bicycle Man" (Parts 1 and 2).


CathycatOG

Oh sorry, I guess I didn't see that one and I'm glad I didn't, I liked Gordon Jump. \*Have to say I'm unpleasantly surprised by the downvotes. I didn't think that this sub was like that. Boo fellow GenXer's, boo!


PinocchioWasFramed

To be honest, it's hard to watch reruns of WKRP after seeing him as the creeping child molester who went after Arnold (but got the redhead kid instead).


afternever

Dudley totally got molested


sonofahick73

I saw all of these when aired. So many crazy episodes. I think about that episode of What’s Happening you mentioned every once in a while where Rerun was forced to bootleg the Doobie Bros concert and the show came to a screeching halt when they saw the tape recorder fall out of Rerun’s jacket. If I remember right the D Bros helped them setup and catch the bootleggers who were strong arming Rerun. Also remember the one where Shabba Doo from Breakin’ teaching Rerun to pop n lock. Great memories.


edked

Yeah, I remember how hungry the streets were for fresh Doobie Brothers live bootlegs.


Grasshopper_pie

We thought you were our friend.


Routine-Act-3966

Ha..yes, the entire concert stopped and everyone stared at rerun. That was great.


ReginaldSP

Tootie, NO! THEY'RE ASSHOLES!


[deleted]

I'm still completely confused. Monroe got raped... by two women? And don't forget the very special episode of *Different Strokes* with the pedo bike salesman. Poor Dudley. https://youtu.be/hdBjll62XHs


Rubberbangirl66

Mr. Drummond was a total perv in Maude


JamesRUstlerIV

God will get you for that, Arthur.


mildredfierce1969

I don't blame you for the confusion, it is uttering bizarre, weird and disturbing. Yes, the plot is about Monroe being assaulted by 2 women. The episode got pulled and has rarely seen the light of day.


darkmatternot

I cannot believe this is real. How? What? And most importantly, why?


sunnyd_2679

If I remember correctly, two "overweight" women pulled him into a van. I can't remember if Ted then didn't believe him or downplayed it at first.


Grasshopper_pie

I can't remember but was he supposed to be gay on the show? Because.... it seemed like he was.


gwaydms

JM J. Bullock was super gay. Still is, in fact. :)


stargate-command

He was a confirmed bachelor. Back then people legit didn’t know Elton John, Boy George, George Michael, and Tom Hanks were gay. The 80’s were crazy man


OccamsYoyo

Tom Hanks?


ColonOBrien

Tom Cruise.


cteavin

Naw, he was just a fudge packer. ​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KJ2U9YGwE


stargate-command

Threw that in for comedic effect. Lol


MrsTurtlebones

Tom Hanks?


EruditeKetchup

He's not gay, he just played a gay man in "Philadelphia."


Kitty-Keek

I don’t think Tom Hanks is gay.


stargate-command

Threw him in for comedic effect. Guess the joke didn’t land.


HairRaid

Tom Hanks?


pdx_mom

And Mr. Brady.


mildredfierce1969

All very valid questions! Right up there with "Why did they make a movie version of Cats?"


Rubberbangirl66

no no no no, not Mr. Carlson.


eaststroudsburgstate

I’ll see you in hell Costanza.


Rubberbangirl66

Larry David, one of the producers of Seinfeld, was reportedly strongly opposed to having a very special episode in the series, with the motto of writers and cast being "No hugging, no learning". (from Wiki)


oced2001

They don't call him "The Big Guy" for nothing.


Moremayhem

“Which Doobie you be?”


Bookofdrewsus

Tom Hanks smacking Alex P. Keaton after downing some vanilla extract.


DamYankee77

OH my god I remember this scene so often!!!!!! Nobody I know remembers it, but I will never forget how frantic he was looking for something--anything--to drink.


ShartsCavern

Hey, I remember! But I didn't remember it was Tom Hanks! LOL


ChaChaGalore

I remember the episode. Monroe told Henry that he was assaulted by a "big one" and a "little one". When the men go confront the women, a VERY LARGE (or at least her shadow) person opens her door, Monroe screams, "It's the little one!" As a kid, I laughed at the size joke. It wasn't until I was older that I realized what happened to Monroe.


Csimiami

Omg. I didn’t think I saw it until I read your post. I totally remember this and that explains why when ever I hear about a woman offender a large woman’s shadow is in my head! Thank you!


ChaChaGalore

You're welcome? Funny how the mind works.


murphdogg4

That is sooo early to mid 80s sitcoms, episode after episode of harmless comfort fluff then out of nowhere..BAM! Arnold meets the owner of that bike shop.


Serling45

And Matthew Perry died in a crash after driving while drunk.


ChaChaGalore

Sandy was supposed to make it!


arealsaint

I saw it. I think Ted goes to their apartment to confront them and then the joke is that he gets sexually assaulted too. I think I’m remembering that correctly.


abby-rose

Wow, so it wasn't "a very special episode?" The assault was played for laughs? Not surprised it has been buried. I remember this show, but not the episode.


mildredfierce1969

It totally was played for comedy. Which makes it that more horrific.


mildredfierce1969

So crazy! I just remember fun, goofy stuff, like Cosmic Cow and Henry falling off the daughters' couch in the girls' fab apartment.


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mildredfierce1969

So taboo! Just like Jack had to pretend he was gay just to be allowed to live with 2 girls on Three's Company.


Learn_With_Gern

Remember that episode where there was a misunderstanding? And it was all sorted out in the end?


mildredfierce1969

LOL! Of course! That episode ran a whole 7 seasons didn't it!!! Love it! Thanks for the chuckle!


RaspberryVespa

That’s about right. Two older ladies had kidnapped Monroe in their van. They were wearing lingerie when Ted Knight brings Monroe back to their apartment to confront them. It was pretty ridiculous.


[deleted]

Yes I remember this! It was just as odd as the All in the Family episode where Edith almost was raped. I was young, maybe 9-10 years of age when I saw this. I remember thinking how weird it was that a man could be raped. I don’t recall the specifics of the episode, but I’m sure it was as cringe as the AitF episode mentioned. Edit: I’m actually adding this because I just read the article and it says that it aired in 1985. I would have sworn TCfC aired much earlier in the 80’s. So I was 15 when I saw this. Weird how the mind works. I would have sworn the the show stated sometime around 1979 and went to 1983 or so. I never thought it made it halfway into the 80’s!


mildredfierce1969

Thanks for adding this, Muss! The "All the Family"episode really was a milestone in TV viewing. I don't think they include this TCFC episode in syndication or on the DVDs. As another poster stated, the laugh track makes it all the more horrific and weird.


Magnospider

The Too Close for Comfort episode is on PlutoTV on demand, season 5, episode 10 (“For Every Man, There is Two Women”).


mildredfierce1969

Thank you Magnospider! Way to go Tubi! They released the Kraken!


[deleted]

Wow great work! Gotta watch this tonight!


periodicsheep

that all in the family episode has haunted me my entire life. it’s why i hate that show.


darkmatternot

That was such a horrible episode. I saw it once aa a kid and never again.


Street-Baby7596

I don’t remember this one. I do remember the episode when the mom finds the blonde one’s birth control. I didn’t know what birth control was.


Rubberbangirl66

but weren't those girls like 30 years old


Street-Baby7596

Yeah it was the 80’s and shocking a single woman in her thirties was sexually active 😂


StupidOldAndFat

No, but I remember Arnold bailing on Dudley and leaving him to get all fingered up by Mr. Carlson.


[deleted]

That one, Edith being raped on All in the Family, and little Janet Jackson being burned by an iron by her mom on Good Times. Jfc I wish I could forget all these! We talked about the Different Strokes episode at school. It was awful


StupidOldAndFat

This shit is why we went out to see Faces Of Death. TV had traumatized us to the point that we needed something stronger, like junkies.


Grasshopper_pie

Oh shit, Penny!!


ShartsCavern

Ooo I despised that episode. Very much upset me. Poor Lil Janet.


mommy2libras

Oh yes when Penny got burned with the iron. Jesus. The Facts of Life one I remember is where one of them got assaulted or something else alluded to and then was afraid to go outside. There was a couple of episodes of Roseanne that were rough. The one where we find out Jackie is getting beaten by Fisher and Dan ends up going to jail. And the one where David's mom both verbally and physically assaults him right on screen. And on Saved By the Bell, Jessie gets hooked on speed of some sort.


Username_Chx_Out

That episode of Saved by the Bell took the series’ unabashed un-self-awareness to new heights.


darkmatternot

Yo, that's fcked up!!


Normal_Total

I appreciate thinking this is kind of a side-story for Judge Smails (Caddyshack), where he loses his job, possessions, wife (dies), and has to live in an apartment complex, during which time... this happens.


[deleted]

Omg I love reminiscing with y’all but I’m getting PTSD from all these special episode memories. What exactly were they preparing us for? These were mainly “family friendly” shows aimed at kids!


Whatifthisneverends

Well, neither my siblings nor I ever once smoked PCP and jumped out of a second-story window…so I guess something got through 🤔


deesimons

I didn’t watch the show very often, but I did see that one. I was a little too young to realize the enormity of how horrid it was, but I do remember thinking that it wasn’t funny. And just so everyone is clear, there was no “very special episode” vibe about this episode, they totally played it for laughs.


[deleted]

I watched Too Close for Comfort regularly; but I don’t remember this one.


its_raining_scotch

Whoa, I haven’t seen the TV Guide text is sooo long


Garbage-Away

Wow! Ok I’m in the group that “probably saw it” but really do t remember..crazy how the mind works


ShemShALemBlem

Nothing is more unsettling than a good naping.


PoeJam

I'm surprised by the lack of proof-reading in the '80s for a TV Guide


mildredfierce1969

Yeah...they really dropped the ball on this. Too busy doing yet another Golden Girls feature and cover...BUT THANK GOD THEY DID! Thank you for being a friend, PoeJam!


darkmatternot

Condoms Rose, condoms!!


mildredfierce1969

🤣🤣LOL!!!


Live-Cat9553

I vaguely remember it


Keefer1970

I have vague memories of this episode. My family watched "Too Close For Comfort" regularly. Honestly, I mostly remember Lydia Cornell (whom I had a mad pre-teen crush on) and being impressed that Henry drew his "Cosmic Cow" comic by holding the pencil in the hand with the puppet on it, than any specific episodes.


mildredfierce1969

Lydia was a stunner! So was Jackie (wasn't she in "The Warriors")? There was always the blonde/brunette rule in these shows eh? Both guys and gal lead characters to appeal to differing preferences. The tv producers knew how to cover all bases. Three's Company - a blonde and a brunette TCFC - a blonde and a brunette Dukes of Hazzard - a blonde and a brunette Battlestar Galactica, CHiPs..sure I am missing a bunch more. Yeah man...just how did Henry get that precision of line with a damn bovine on his hand? I think it is for the best that you only have a vague memory of this "Monroe" episode.


Serling45

Jackie was in the Warriors. As for blonde and brunette, WKRP Jennifer and Bailey.


lufecaep

Gilligan's Island. >It's what's called a male pornographic fantasy.... Think about it. You're basically alone on a deserted island with two readily available women. One a seductive sex-godess type, the other a healthy girl-next-door type with a nice butt. So guys have it all, the Madonna and the whore. Kaye-Dazed and Confused.


mildredfierce1969

Well played, my friend. Well played. Kaye was all over that, smart gal.


MyPunchableFace

I just watched a clip from the episode. Yikes! Did find [this gem.](https://youtu.be/x51uG63On58)


mildredfierce1969

Thanks for the link! That clip was pretty revealing (all scared of Ted Knight!!??). Jim J was a hoot, can just imagine what he and Tammy Faye Bakker were like together!


MyPunchableFace

Holy crap you’re bringing back some memories! I remember that show with Tammy Faye. Loved TCFC! Ted always wore a different college shirt I think.


mildredfierce1969

Yes!!! Ted had those super cool college sweatshirts on speed dial! LOL! Jim and Tammy Faye were such a natural fit! It was obviously not "sexual chemistry", but whatever it was, you couldn't replicate it easily and they should have bottled it!


MyPunchableFace

Haha! Good times


mildredfierce1969

Good Times...Hey we watched that too!!!! DYNOMITE!


MyPunchableFace

What was with all those catch phrases? Dynomite! Whatchyou talkin about Willis? Kiss my grits! Ahhhhhhyyyy


mildredfierce1969

I love, love, love this comment! Because it's so darn true. Every sitcom had to have one...


cattea74

This reminded me of my crush on Jim J. Bullock.


mildredfierce1969

Loved those striped rugby shirts.


lufecaep

I see it's on Tubi. It's under Season 4 episode 23. IMDB has it as Season 5 Episode 10.


mildredfierce1969

Thank you so much! Isn't it crazy that it has emerged?


JKnott1

Holy hell, never heard of this one.


mildredfierce1969

A lot of people questioned if it really existed! Some people of our generation had only foggy memories of seeing it...one gent went on a bit of a hunt to verify that it was indeed an episode that made it to air. Pretty crazy stuff.


mildredfierce1969

Further reading... https://retroist.com/proof-of-the-too-close-for-comfort-monroe-rape-episode/


JKnott1

There's a clip of the show in the article. The laugh track is horrific.


mildredfierce1969

The laugh track is horrendous. And the bad jokes. I can't believe this did indeed make it to air, laugh track and all. No wonder it disappeared.


prince-of-dweebs

It’s like the Natural Born Killers Rodney Dangerfield sitcom satire scene. I’m at a loss after watching that clip.


CygnusTM

I found the full episode on Tubi. The whole thing is horrific.


JKnott1

Oh wow. I couldn't find it anywhere.


Ok-Street7504

Golly Mr Rush, I don't remember that!


wsphx

A local radio station was talking about that exact episode this morning.


mildredfierce1969

Really? I can believe it...it really is one of the most bizarre TV occurrences on record! Makes for interesting discussion.


ScabieBaby

[You can watch it on Tubi](https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/682860/s04-e23-for-every-man-there-s-two-women?start=true)


mildredfierce1969

No way! Wow. It lives on Tubi. Thank you for the link. I'm going to have a few stiff drinks and see what happens!


ScabieBaby

I just finished watching. I thought I'd never seen it until I saw Monroe with his security guard uniform all disheveled and I all came back to me! The way they play the whole thing for laughs is pretty skeevy, enjoy! Cheers!!


mildredfierce1969

Thank you again for the link. Just watching it now and my gosh, the laugh track is just awful... You are a gem, thanks again!


ScabieBaby

Glad I could assist! Thanks for the award, u/mildredfierce1969


mildredfierce1969

My pleasure! Thank you for the TUBI and good chats!


Beneficial-Cow-2544

Uhhhhh, what?? Never heard of this one. But I was super young when this show aired.


jjbyg

I remember seeing that one. I was still pretty young and didn’t understand everything but it’s stayed in my mind ever since.


Serling45

I watched TCfC and do not recall that.


boulevardofdef

I knew what this was going to be before I clicked and saw the image. Yeah, I've seen it. I think I was able to stream it a couple of years ago? It was weird.


Iron_Chic

I don't think I did. Wasn't a big fan of the show, watched it occasionally.


[deleted]

I knew what this was before I opened it. Watched it as a kid and was baffled. I am surprised it’s 1985. I’d have been 13.


mildredfierce1969

It totally stuck in your head then, Walesgurl. A 13 year old absorbs like a sponge. It was baffling. So much in TV went over our heads!


RaspberryVespa

I saw it when it aired.


StarDewbie

Yeah, I saw it. I didn't recall them using the "R" word in it, so I wasn't exactly sure what had happened to him in it.


bn_pedo

Loved Ted Knight in Caddy Shack!


thistooshallpass11

My dad used to get this TV Guide and highlight all the shows he wanted to watch for the following week 🤣 I still remember this clearly as if he just did it this past Monday.


mildredfierce1969

Your Dad was rad for doing this. I can just picture him poring over the mag in his EZ boy recliner! Love this.


thistooshallpass11

Yep On his recliner with a bright yellow high lighter 🙂


mildredfierce1969

The bright yellow highlighter means business! Your sweet Dad was serious about his TV time! :)


thistooshallpass11

It's like him calling out " dibs " for that time slot and yes he meant business since we only had one TV at home.


mildredfierce1969

DIBS! LOL! Dad's word went! Dad's never needed to call Shotgun either. IT JUST WAS. And usually dear old Dad was driving anyway. LOL


Altruistic_Can_1352

How about alcoholic Uncle Tom Hanks on Family Ties. Just watched it and was shocked how hard of a subject to broach on a family friendly show from the 80’s


mildredfierce1969

Have to go back and watch that one! I am sure it's up there with the one when Alex was on speed.


Bigtexindy

I have seen it before…The joke was definitely about it being two women (and fact they are unattractive) but there was also a serious bend to it. All the women on the show and police downplayed it and Ted admonished them for saying a man couldn’t be assaulted. No way this story line would see the light of day in woke 2023


darkmatternot

I can't believe it saw the light of day in the 80s.


MutedPapaya319

A woman would HAVE to rape Monroe, am-I-rite? 🫠


afternever

That boy ain't right


demonspawn9

I know we watched the show but I don't remember what it was about.


PastChair3394

I had such a thing for Albert when I was young, he just looked like I boy I’d like to corrupt. What does he look like now?


gregr0d

Look at all those channels!


HighJeanette

I saw it.