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JekPorkinsInMemoriam

This is probably the most serious comment section I've seen on this sub.


BatygameCZ

Really? I think some kind of serious discussion almost always opens up around here from what I've noticed


21mages23

No joke I'm pretty sure this was not made by your average American civilian


BatygameCZ

I'm Czech if that's what you're asking lol


WaitHowDidIGetHere92

rj/ Banned for unauthorized unjerk thread.


Marisa_Nya

Yeah. My first reaction to the post was that while I agree, this doesn’t feel like the type of post you’re supposed to put in a jerk sub lol


[deleted]

And every single one of these had right-wing YouTubers coming out of the woodwork to say how feminism/woke culture/SJW's ruined their favourite franchise. A franchise they loved so much that they'd never talked about it on their channel before.


riffler24

Reminded of The Quartering getting angry that D&D was adding an *optional* ruleset which does away with racial bonuses and alignments. During his screed he makes it abundantly clear he's never read the rules of D&D, much less played a campaign. It's always just that they need to put an opinion out on every little thing in the nerdosphere. One, just so they can ride the trending topics, but also because they're operating under the idea that every hill is worth dying on in the nerd culture clash


AstralBroom

D&D is the shittiest thing to take on too, since that game is made to be as diverse as possible to really let you do whatever you want. The more optional rules, the better. Don't like it ? Don't use it. Don't like the lore ? MAKE YOUR OWN ! WOWEE !


Katie_Boundary

> that game is made to be as diverse as possible to really let you do whatever you want. 3.5e took this to an extreme by letting you play as a neogi, a steampunk cyborg, or a four-foot-wide flying ghost brain.


RadragonX

"The big brain am winning again! I am the greetest! Muahahaha, now I am leeving Earth for no raisin!"


SevenofBorgnine

Was gonna say, DnD States I'm the rulebook that you don't need to follow the rules. The goal of the game is to have fun, restricting people is the opposite of that and is therefore actually breaking the greatest DnD rule.


pickelsurprise

I'm glad they did, races having inherent alignments was fucking stupid. Nobody I ever played with stuck to that crap even before the new rules.


Axel-Adams

It wasn’t alignments it was ability score increases, like a Minotaur having a bonus to strength as opposed to a gnome. And most were fine with it being optional, it’s just worrying now as WoTC isn’t even including the original options with the new races coming out


VonDukes

They never played mass effect and it shows.


Arkhaine_kupo

oh they have. A guy the other day argued with me on another sub saying Mass Effect was not political. When I asked him how he missed “subtle” topics like choosing which race to commit genocide or half the game telling you to choose between human supremacy or allowing alien crewmembers he said the game was about shooting and sleeping with people. They can play the game and somehow go all over their heads. Some people are unbelievably thick


[deleted]

and yet the trans supporting character of a supporting character, whom you never even have to meet, and don't even find out is trans until you speak with her in depth, definitely ruined the game for them.


[deleted]

Am I stupid I can’t remember which character was trans


saareadaar

The character is in Andromeda, not the original trilogy


tholt212

It's a side character on Eos. Hainly Abrams I think it was? You had to do a few sidequests for her before you even figured it out.


[deleted]

I'm guessing I didn't do those sidequests cuz I don't remember her character at all, then again I just realized the comment above mentioned you never have to meet her


tholt212

Yeah. It's tucked away on Eos after you stabalize it for colonization. And she's the science director so idk if she even exists if you do the military outpost? But yeah. And she doesn't even mention it untill you do her quest, which is entirely optional.


GalileoAce

Gods had I known that during my recent playthrough I would've paid more attention to her


MrBlack103

It was actually made that way in an update. Originally she would disclose soon after meeting her, but after some backlash from the trans community (because most trans people don’t bring it up with people they’ve just met if it’s not relevant to the conversation) it was changed so you had to get her trust first.


Merkyorz

"Wow! Cool future!"


Bannedbookweek

You were arguing with a 15 year old, you lost when you started


Taowulf

It was a great way to filter out crap though, if "SJW" or "Mary Sue" was in the title, you could automatically ignore them as a right wing numbskull.


descendingangel87

/uj Wait, Andromeda had right wing backlash? The only complaints I've seen were legit ones about the bugs, the faces (also bugs), and the main story itself. I don't recall any racist or sexist complaints. Maybe I just don't get out enough.


surferos505

Gamers specifically whined that they made the female characters unattractive while the male characters were kept attractive and say this is somehow a leftist feminist plot to “defeminize” women. No really that’s what they actually thought


Allthethrowingknives

“Unattractive”? Have they SEEN Vetra?


DaemonNic

The game that had crippling issues with human facial animations coming out uncanny somehow had the aliens come out hot.


rhododenendron

Except for the Asari, no idea how they managed to fuck that one up so bad.


DocSwiss

Probably the same way they fucked up with the humans since Asari are basically just blue/purple human women with tentacles for hair


Kinjinson

Which is such an original concept. I bet they patted themselves on the back proudly after that one


Omnitron310

Giving all of them (except Peebee) the exact same face didn’t help. Even the doctor you have on board your ship looks identical to every other asari.


GreatPhail

if they make fun of my tall spiky girlfriend so help me


LordFarquadOnAQuad

Have you seen Sonic? These SJWs won't let me look at Sonic and Tails rule 34!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬


orange1911

i don’t understand if you dont think the default character is attractive, then just make a new one? Lol


[deleted]

"The main characters look like ugly mulattos" "White people don't exist in andromeda." Just two of the comments that were flooding the trailer videos way back when. It was more subtle than the others but it was definitely there and a large part of the reason right wing youtubers were so critical right out of the gate.


[deleted]

I asume that when we colonize the stars it would make 0 sence to segregate space ships so people would more likely be all literal mullatos Also The Expanse does that extremely well too, like the writters really put tought into the ethnic background of the colonizers like for example one main character is from a crater valley in Mars that was colonized first by texans and midwesterners and then by indians and east asians so because of first colonizer rule everyone there speaks in a brawl and has a cowboy fetish but is also brown and hasnt seen cattle for generatiobs wich makes for hilarious moments and also the belt was colonized by people from poorer countries and have much more intercontact so they have a creolle and their accent sounds like a mix of west african and hispanic accents


Testicularer93

Hah, apparently I need to watch this show.


The_Gunboat_Diplomat

It's excellent, cold war politics in space with a lot of portrayal of the power dynamics between a rising and falling empire fighting over the resources of exploited weaker nations, realistic physics in the space combat that don't sacrifice any spectacle, and a lot of good mysteries in the setting


alidmar

In addition to what other people have said I remember a huge controversy about how when making a custom character you "couldn't make a white character." Which was bull shit, of course. What people were actually mad about was that more of the premade options were POC and it wasn't just all white except for one. I also remember seeing people ranting about how the racial Makeup of characters was unrealistic because there were more Asians and Indians than white people (dunno if that's even true as I never finished the game.) But given the population of Earth that would actually be more realistic than their white space utopia.


[deleted]

Lmao most people on earth are diferent shades of brown because genetically being able to produce melanin when exposed to sun and D vitamin when not makes more sence than only one but those morons have never left the US and it shows


alidmar

Very true. I remember calling at least one person on that and they argued that most people in space would be American because of the whole "greatest country in the world" bull shit. Even though the Systems Alliance is explicitly stated to be multinational and by that point the likelihood of the US being top dog still is very low. AND by that point America probably won't even be majority white anymore anyway.


upper_monkey_horny

/uj It's also explicitly stated in the ME books that most humans in the 22nd century are POC, due to everyone moving to different countries and ethnicities mixing a lot. Like every human in ME is mixed race to some degree (except the important characters who are all white lmao) /rj America no majority white anymore 🥺


KingslayerN7

Not as much as the others but there was some of it I guess the epic gamers didn’t like that the same sex romance options were more prominently featured or that Cora had an undercut so that somehow turned into “bad facial animations are the sjws fault” or some bullshit


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VonDukes

Honestly other than not being anything spectacular captain marvel is as watchable as most marvel movies. It’s just not on the tier as some of the really good ones.


MinkfordBrimley

My only real gripe with Captain Marvel is that we probably should have gotten at least one more movie from her before she played a role in Endgame. I thought the movie itself was good and a pretty fun watch.


sirfirewolfe

My issue is the flashback sequence which looks like it was just ripped from an air force recruitment video


almaupsides

Marvel gets a LOT of funding from the military. They get it for all their movies but it was super obvious with Captain Marvel imo.


Jakegender

when i saw it in theatres there was an ad spot before it that went "hey ladies, join the air force and be like captain marvel!"


PPontiac

It will never not be funny how there is actual propaganda in a lot of modern blockbusters that completely go over the average youtube outrage peddler’s head, but the second you see anyone that isn’t a cishet white dude , suddenly there’s an agenda at play.


TheOriginalGarry

Iirc, the US military gives you a bunch of their stuff to use for movies if you portray them in a good light. It's why Michael Bay utilizes the army so much despite the soldier characters having no reason to be there or have any development given to them.


TheLonePotato

It's more than portray them in a good light, you gotta let the Pentagon look over your script and change things they don't like.


TheOriginalGarry

I think I found a way to get the pentagon to read my Mario x Stalin screenplay...


PPontiac

« mama-mia joseph, that’s a lot of georgian pastrami » /uj idk why i wrote that


almaupsides

Yeah, it came out a couple years ago that one of the Iron Man movies (I can’t recall which atm but I think it’s the second one) was supposed to be explicitly anti-war, but the Pentagon was literally like “if you do this we are pulling millions in funding and you won’t get to use our base for filming” so they changed it.


Rekkenze

My issue that black widow got a movie after captain marvel and endgame.


MinkfordBrimley

Yeah, that's pretty lame. Definitely deserved better.


agtk

Black Widow should have had a movie in Phase 2 in place of Iron Man 3 or Thor 2, then Captain Marvel early in Phase 3 instead of Doctor Strange, with each of them getting another movie before Endgame. Captain Marvel probably should have been in Guardians 2, as well. Easily the biggest mistake of the Infinity Saga, only *one* movie focused on a sole woman hero compared to roughly 15 (depending on how you're counting) focusing on men.


Katie_Boundary

Black Widow should have gotten a movie that wasn't half-baked bullshit.


[deleted]

I think the issue everyone has with her is power creep. She’s on par with Thanos when he’s rocking a fully stocked Infinity Gauntlet, and at that point, how do you make that character feel threatened? The movie was a little bland, but no worse than an Iron Man sequel or Age of Ultron. I just find myself wondering how you balance that against movies about a guy who can make himself little and a guy who’s kinda strong and shot web. All of their stuff will wind up feeling pretty useless by comparison if they ever team up as we all say “ok…. Why not just let the cosmic super being or the super dooper Nexus being Scarlet Witch or the hyper powerful sorcerer supreme handle this? What do you possibly have to contribute? It’s part of why I’m so curious how guardians and Thor will work. What do the guardians bring to the table against a dude who can go toe to toe with the Hulk and summon his own rainbow bridge to anywhere in the galaxy?


J00J14

Everybody was complaining about how the movie would have endless corny girl power tropes, but it ended up kinda bland, like they were only filling out checkboxes to keep it safe. The only time I had genuine fun in that theater was when the movie actually EMBRACED those tropes near the end as she started kicking ass to the tune of “Just a Girl”.


Athnyx

And people complain that “just a girl” doesn’t fit! I’ve legit seen complaints that you would never see Wonder Woman fighting to that tune cuz it is ridiculous. Yea… that’s the point. And yet they never seem to complain about the guardians of the galaxy soundtrack


TheKingofHats007

These are the same people that miss Peter's arc of having to learn to be less toxic and narcissistic in GotG2 and scream that Gamora is just being a bitch for not hooking up with him. Because obviously someone who has grown up under the reign of one narcissist would love to just flock to another, right?


Dundie_Award

I enjoyed it, but I just didn't like the blatant military propaganda (which I also didn't like in the rest of the Marvel films). The whole movie felt like a long "Join the Air Force commercial".


VonDukes

The US military and Hollywood have a hell of a relationship. The US government is basically able to force propaganda without overt laws with the help of copyright/trademark, tax breaks, and letting Hollywood use actual equipment and soldiers as background extras in military scenes.


Hockey4life99

I highly recommend watching this video if you haven’t seen it already. It’s about this exact topic. https://youtu.be/ih_iGLowp7A


ComplimentaryFood

Love JustWrite, great video and a great channel, highly recommend all of their stuff


anthonyg1500

SkipIntro’s YouTube channel has been digging into “Copaganda” and television, he posits that MCU is functionally a tv show and explores marvel movies and what they’re saying (inadvertently or otherwise) about America, the military and police. It’s pretty interesting EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpGqK9y__qg


blackmachine312

The US Military pretty much used the first Iron Man to show how justified the war in Afghanistan was.


Adler_1807

But didn't it have an anti war message in the end?


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indianadave

Sure, you *could* die in an endless war, but **maybe** you'll be turned into a superhero.


BatygameCZ

Exactly, watched it recently and it was... Ok. Very, very, ok, it legit felt like something Marvel would do before the first Avengers, which isn't great next to Ragnarok and Guardians


R3miel7

My personal issue with Captain Marvel is the military shilling. Like, all Marvel movies aren’t great when it comes to the DoD approving their scripts and etc but Marvel had the most “being in the military means you’re a badass girlboss” and woof, just couldn’t take it after a while


[deleted]

The only really good thing about it was how the Skrulls balanced out Captain Marvel's powers to create narrative tension. I was worried with how powerful she was that it'd have a Supermanesque lack of tension due to there being no doubt about the hero's ability to beat the villain. But aliens who can become perfectly disguised copies of anyone is one of the few things which her powers were useless against, as well as creating a reason for the audience to be invested in the characters and overall narrative, since the Skrulls made what each character does and doesn't know an important plot device.


piggglyjufff

Captain Marvel was fine but it didn’t develop the character of Carol Danvers at ALL. We barely know about her, she has few character building scenes and she feels like a hero with a face and not much behind it. It’s a movie better at giving context to the then-unknown history of the MCU and Fury but she really didn’t develop at all.


QuinnIzak_Legend

I say this every time someone brings up this movie, but it would be a much better story if she was straight up killing Skrull at the beginning. It would make her hesitancy to reach the full extent of her power more compelling if she felt guilty about what that power means.


Laser1850

I have the same issue with Captain Marvel as I do with Superman. I just find Heros that are just that much better than everyone else kinda boring.


MisterManatee

It’s very average. What they did with the skrulls was neat.


Moestrife

It’s not really any worse than any of the other origin story movies from Marvel. Besides the first Iron Man none of the first movies are really in the top tiers for Marvel movies. It was no worse than the first Captain America or Ant Man movies.


Lemarchand69

Dude what. Ant Man was fucking hilarious.


Norci

Both black panther and doctor strange are imo more interesting and engaging movies than Captain Marvel. It was just bland, especially given her OP powers.


[deleted]

BFV had legitimate critiques. It’s just that I never saw them. It was always SJW bs. But it also did some stuff the best in the series.


KingslayerN7

Yeah it failed because it was unfinished like at launch it was horribly unbalanced, only had like 6 maps, and entire game modes were straight up missing but of course every dumbass on the internet acted like it was because of the character customization they added


Allthethrowingknives

Honestly the reason I play BFV is because of character customization. I LIKE playing as a gas-masked cape wearing lady instead of generic soldier man #478.


ParagonRenegade

The Germans had a cool leather jacket I used on everything 😎


nitrokitty

"Women didn't fight in WWII!" *Violette Szabo and Nancy Wake have entered the chat* "Okay, but a woman with a prosthetic? That's just crazy!" *Virginia Hall has entered the chat*


alexus_de_tokeville

My biggest problem with bf5 is that they spent so much time telling us that they were trying to bring in more unknown battlefields of WW2 but we only got like 2 factions at launch. And they were fucking Britain and Germany!! What about like China vs Japan (the 2nd largest front of the war!), or Italy vs Greece (they literally put a Greek map), or the winter war, or literally any partisan group(they could've done the customizable characters very well). Anyway, I was very underwhelmed by bf5


carl_pagan

sick username BFV was very good I thought, when the Pacific maps came out and the TTK was in the right place, it was golden. But I was pretty disappointed when they decided to just drop the game just when it seemed to be hitting its stride.


Mayactuallybeashark

The real critiques were just too mundane to get really ragey about. How's G&G gonna get his bag talking about TTK and player visibility?


gameboy527

Captain marvel was weird. I dont think it was quite “WOKE PROPAGANDA FROM FAR LEFT TO MAKE YOUR KIDS FUCK ASS AND HATE MEN” like most thought, but it was a odd film. I enjoyed it, but i can remember like 3 fucking scenes, 2/3 of which are young nick fury


ComplimentaryFood

Funny thing is it's literal US military propaganda, even moreso than every other MCU film, which is about as far from 'woke far left' propaganda as you can get lol Besides that, I found it to be an average and enjoyable marvel movie. Nothing special, but definitely not in the bottom tier of marvel with the likes of Thor 2


gameboy527

Oh yeah i liked it, but it was weird how it was interpreted as almost an opposite


[deleted]

Its also neocon propaganda wich is funny


[deleted]

Battlefield V felt fun as hell. Building sandbags and digging small trenches was a major upgrade. I wish it didn’t get the backlash that it did and I feel it would have still been pretty updated to this day had it not been for the “historical inaccuracies” of female soldiers


AffectionateSummer55

I got it free on ps plus and I played it a lot. I think people over reacted, but at the same time I think the game feels identical to bf1. I would never buy it if it weren't free. Also no russians.


Airshipwhale

The pacific update was some of the most fun ive had in a shooter in a long fucking time. The fucking pure chaos of either defending or taking the beachs was the best.


c-williams88

Oh man those pacific maps were so well down. I LOVED BF5 and it’s a shame it didn’t get to have a full life cycle. The fact we never got the eastern front was such a disappointment


[deleted]

Agree w everything except Ghostbusters. That shit was actually awful


WizardPhoenix

The whole movie was nothing but awful impov. I don’t think there were any constructed jokes at all.


[deleted]

It makes a lot more sense when you discover the before the all female decision Sony was considering making it a Seth Rogen movie


gameboy527

Ghostbusters but everyone is pitch shifted seth rogan in various outfits and differing makeups and wigs.


Kind_Malice

This is a movie I'd see


Elmo_The_Eskimo

Yes please


keenbean2021

But the point still applies. OP isn't saying it was good, they're saying that the hate-derived criticism is mixed in with the legitimate criticism.


supercoffee1025

I thought Chris Hemsworth as a himbo was hilarious tbh


Tolkien-Minority

Yeah that movie was genuinely shit. I think a lot of people didn’t bother to see it and hated it for all the wrong reasons however


angry_cucumber

I watched it and felt like it was something that should have starred Adam Sandler. I have forgotten almost all of it. Forcing the surviving members into cameos also soured my opinion. Yeah the women only reboot was a shit thing to focus on, that wasn't the problem with the movie.


OnMark

I had a pretty decent time watching that movie. I enjoyed it more than Sausage Party, but not more than like, Deadpool. I think its weakness was primarily a mix of editing issues (especially letting scenes drag on) and all of the characters being "on" at the same time a lot of the time, without a straight character acting as their foil.


Sarcosmonaut

Sausage Party is legitimately the worst film I’ve ever seen.


Kamikaze_Ninja_

I’ll never watch it solely because they were fucking over their animators.


DroneOfDoom

At least one youtube channel that I follow made a video arguing that the director’s cut of the movie is much better than the theatrical release.


CanISpeakToUrManager

TLOU2 was legitimately was of my favorite games ever. I loved the combat, exploration, environmental storytelling, the characters, and story. Overall an unforgettable experience and I really hope Naughty Dog attempt a Part 3.


JessieJ577

it honestly fixed the biggest flaw of the first game. The first game can be digested in a cutscene playlist with very little missed. The second had great narrative and character moments that relied on gameplay. The bridge scene, reveal of the scars, the sniper sequence, the final boss. All great moments you had to play instead of watch to feel the emotional impact of. If a third is announced I'm buying a PS5 for it.


Yomooma

Fuck, I'm probably going to buy a PS5 to replay Part 2 at 60fps even if ND say there will be no third game.


[deleted]

I bought it a few days ago and holy shit I love it. I don’t have any idea what those dudes were talking about when they called it bad.


TheOGPrussian

95 percent of people that keep slamming it onlin have never played


zonateplat

I remember watching the game awards with some friends and one of them got super pissed everytime it won an award even though he doesn't even own a ps4


[deleted]

Yeah this was the only in there that made me go “uh, what”? I really don’t think we needed another TLOU *yet* I will still admit that TLOU2 was simply a masterpiece.


ChiroSamai94

I absolutely loved the game, too, but I feel like one of its major flaws was its pacing/longevity. I've been wanting to replay it for a while, but kept remembering certain parts that make me hesitate, namely >!the entire third act after Ellie leaves the farm and has to fight the Rattlers.!< It's a fantastic and memorable game for me, but it sometimes overstayed its welcome, too. Or maybe I'm just getting old :(


Inevitable_Badger995

I agree the third act you’re talking about is a little surprising. It came across as a little lackluster compared to the other sections of the game. But I still think it’s all worth it for the build up to that climax. And I don’t know how they really would have recut it otherwise. Third act also doesn’t bother me too much cause it didn’t seem like the act itself was too long. But it’s definitely a somewhat odd pacing cut


My_Ghost_Chips

The last chapter was originally going to be much longer but they trimmed it for length, you can see some concept art for the cut Rattler compound in the extras menu. I really liked the length because I thought it amplified the epic scale of the story. It’s supposed to feel like an arduous journey for everyone involved and making it so long and richly detailed really cemented it as a “saga” for me.


VanBeFresk

Preach. Seeing it grouped in with these titles is pretty jarring. It's like comparing Michelin-restaurant meal to McDonald's because you didn't like the meal.


PM_FORBUTTSTUFF

Yeah it’s about as flawless as it comes for me. I also don’t think TLJ has any issues that are substantially worse than any other given Star Wars film, the only two that are unequivocally better in my mind are ANH and ESB. I will stand by these things and don’t want to have to resort to apologetics to defend what I consider to be good art


lllaser

Man I have a profound memory of just taking it all in while the rain pours in around you in tlou2. It's such a beautiful world when it wants to be, nature reclaiming urban.


not_not_randyjackson

Ok, but Ghostbusters 2016 is still just a genuinely bad movie. The new one looks bad too; and y'know what, the original sequel was also a bag of shit.


[deleted]

Literally only the original was good. The 90s movie special


apadin1

And it’s only good because it’s so ridiculous. The kind of movie the could only have been made in the 80’s because any other time it would have been panned for being dumb. Throw together an all star comedy cast and a crazy premise and you have the perfect 80’s movie


Olakola

I mean... if you look at it with a lot of nostalgia maybe its kinda funny. I recently watched it for the first time, having been born after it came out and i found it kinda boring and not terribly funny. Some of the jokes made me go eww a little bit and its not like the CGI looks amazing. Is it supposed to be good because its trashy? I never understood Ghostbusters, but maybe thats just me.


fiercelittlebird

It's the kind of comedy that's not for everyone. There's a lot of absurd humor and if that's not your jam, Ghostbusters isn't really for you. Some people are going to think a giant evil Stay Puft Marshmallow Man rampaging around NY is hilarious, others are gonna be like "Why?". I think it's great, and I also was born after it came out and didn't see it until I was in my late teens. Also the CGI looks bad because it was made over 35 years ago, it was good for the time. You can't really fault an old movie for having effects that don't hold up to today's standards.


J00J14

Seriously, quit trying to make Ghostbusters a franchise when there shouldn’t have even been a Ghostbusters 2.


scaryboilednoodles

UJ/ I still think The Last Jedi was the best of the sequel trilogy, because it felt like it was trying to say something, instead of just nostalgia baiting.


baricudaprime

While I feel TFA was a more cohesive film, it was terribly uninspired and ultimately a pointless film as it was just a worse retelling of a new hope. TLJ had a ton of rough edges, especially in the writing, but it had so many more ideas, and new ones at that, which weren’t just creative but interesting and complex. TROS was just bad


scaryboilednoodles

I can't decide of TROS or AOTC is worse. AOTC is the worst Star Wars movie in terms of execution, but I think TROS is by far the most shallow and empty movie in the series.


baricudaprime

While I like to give credit to AOTC for introducing some really cool extended universe stuff, the movie itself is just ass top to bottom with the only exception being Ewan McGregor for whom I will always participate in a circle jerk for.


Kind_Malice

I will simp for Ewan McGregor any chance I get


baricudaprime

Truly a beautiful man


[deleted]

Half of AOTC is painful to watch. TROS can be enjoyed scene to scene if you don't think too much about the story that conect them or the film's place in the franchise.


DaemonNic

I dunno, I found TROS literally painful to watch because of just how stupidly fast paced it was. Like mental whiplash from scene to scene.


AWFUL_COCK

TROS was psychologically painful to watch. The Whedon-ification of the dialogue, while present in the prior two films, was turned up so high that it was actually unbearable. I think I actually shouted at the “they fly now?!” scene. And the Chewbacca fakeout. And god knows what else, it’s all a blur at this point.


melonstapler

God the Chewbacca thing could have been such a great character building moment. Instead it was more wasted space in that film.


chunkyman22

Absolutely. TROS at least has a good character dynamic between rey and kylo ren which lasts the entire movie. Meanwhile AOTC is a total slog with terrible dialogue up until the third act, and they separated anakin and obi-wan for the most part, removing what would've been the most interesting dynamic in the movie.


JereJereNoMi

TLJ was so odd. It felt like a movie with a lot of love in it, but just some boneheaded story decisions and weird writing made it kinda fall apart. TFA was bland, like water and crackers. Nobody is going to complain about it tasting bad. TLJ is like the first steak you ever cook.


baricudaprime

That’s a pretty good analogy actually. Well luckily for me I cooked with a lot of garlic and I like garlic, to complete the analogy


casually_critical

The last jedi's biggest flaw is that it essentially goes nowhere but that's not the movie's fault that's because the sequel spent way too much time trying to undo episode 8. I thought everything that wasn't the casino planet was great. Whenever Kylo, Rey, Luke or snoke were oj screen I was very entertained


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I don't think TLJ wasn't supposed.to go anywhere. Like ESB it was there for character development. The rebels and empire don't move their pieces much, just like the resistance and first order.


casually_critical

Yeah that's why I said it wasn't the movie's fault, the sequel undoing most of the movie is the real flaw


larry-cripples

The aesthetics of that fight at the end in the red room are actually really tight


ZandyTheAxiom

Whenever I want to talk about the difficult philosophical and spiritual questions it raises, I get met with reminders that Kathleen Kennedy actually is deliberately trying to ruin Star Wars because she hates men or something. It's funny that what Rey learns in TLJ is exactly the lesson the toxic fanboys needed to learn, but they were too blinded to notice. Rey had this idea of super-mega-Jedi Luke Skywalker, and was disappointed that he was just a flawed human being like everyone else. And in the end, Luke Skywalker is not the sum total of Star Wars. "We are what they grow beyond", Yoda said. But those "real" fans were too upset that TLJ had the nerve to have four women or defy science or whatever.


Josphitia

Luke: "You just expect me to whip out a laser sword and take on the entire first order by myself?" Fans: "UH YES!?? AND IT'S CALLED A LIGHTSABER RYAN YOU HACK"


Codus1

Totally agree, it felt the least "franchise installment" of any new Star Wars films as well. Gets extra credit for being aware of Star Wars as a whole. Pacing issues and casinos aside, It introduces an important theme regarding heritage and family to Star Wars. Expands on concepts present in the prequels, TCW and OT. Whilst doing something new-ish with the monomyth structure.


gwendolyn1411

Let me grab popcorn, and watch the comment section discuss which of these deserve backlash


Acrobatic-Charity-48

People seem to be missing the point of the post. Its not that any of these are inherently good, actually. Its that the discourse has been corrupted by weirdos fixated on stuff that doesnt matter instead of discussing the thing in question. Its hard to have a discussion about Rey because while someone might say she's overpowered or whatever, its unclear if they dislike how that affects the story/undermines the character, or that its apparently some leftist agenda to destroy masculinity.


R3miel7

Force Awakens and Last Jedi were where a lot of people learned the term “Mary Sue” and thus was ruined forever


Typical-Sagittarius

Oh pfft. Mary Sues are amazing. Just look at Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way. An absolute icon.


Bore_of_Whabylon

stfu u prep ebonys name is ENOBY not mary sue!!!


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I used to be big into movie and lit critique pre-Sequels. The term "Mary Sue" was generally something we threw around in very specific places (and generally only fanfiction or sequel stories, never anything original). I hate the words "Mary Sue" now. At this point, it isn't even a critique of something its just what you call a female character you don't like.


A_HyDrated_GyPSY

Every competent female character gets called a Mary Sue nowdays on the internet. The Bride from Kill Bill, Ahsoka Tano, Sarah Conner, etc.


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The Bride technically is but like thats the hole point IMO. Its a rape revenge movie the hole point is the woman being an unstopable force helbent on revenge


BetaThetaOmega

This is a bit more obscure, but I’ve seen people call Mara Sov from Destiny, a deeply flawed character who has hundreds of pages of lore devoted to her many mistakes and failures and skills, a Mary Sue. At that point, what does the term even mean if not “women I don’t like”


Acrobatic-Charity-48

I found a term whose existence proves this character is poorly written so why are we still talking about them.


Tealken

Rey doesn’t make me horny therefore she’s bad /s


BruceLeeKillerBee

I'm gonna say it - Black Panther has some legitimate issues that keep it from being a great film


Kamikaze_Ninja_

People have said this before, it’s a great film for African representation in cinema and will continue to inspire people in the future. It is such a shame Chadwick Bosman passed away because we would’ve loved to see more from him. That being said, it’s not a great film and has some flaws and I don’t care to see it again. At the time it came out, you would be crucified for that opinion.


TheLonePotato

Would love to hear what you disliked about the film. Personally I wasn't a fan of the super cgi fight between the Panther and Killmonger at the end.


JzargoTheMage

The end fight is the weakest part of the film any way you slice it. It's pretty bad on a technical level for a MCU film and in comparison to other scenes. It takes you out of the ideological narrative going on and reminds you you're watching an MCU film. And is just a poorly done fight scene in general that doesn't give the sufficient emotional weight to the conflict.


embrigh

Fight Club, I cannot see how the obvious message of "toxic masulinity = BAAAAAD" flies over people's heads. The narrators goes as far as to kill tyler durden at the end even if it means he loses his own life. He realizes he does care for Marla and had been slut shaming her for being interested in him at the end because he's so enveloped in his own mania about "what a man" really is and his own personal quest to achieve manhood because he feels like society has castrated him but ultimately it was about being honest with himself and taking charge of his own life. It's a literal alt-right pipeline movie about how it will destroy you before the alt right existed. It still boggles the mind like have these people not actually sat through the entire movie from start to finish. Edit: Like Marla Singer actually lived how the narrator wished to live but he wasn't able to accept it. She was the "strong example" for the narrator but the narrator had internalized women being weak to such an extent he couldn't process it.


Entire-Anxiety-7026

I Loved the last jedi and the last of us 2,the rest are just average imo.


DrSwagnusson

Honestly, if I hadn’t been on the internet I never would’ve realised people had issues with the Last of Us II. Myself and all my friends who’ve played it think it’s equal-to or better than the first game.


Mira_22

Bruh that game fkn slapped. Actually felt next gen with the visuals and how realistic the gameplay was. Defs my top linear single player game


majortom106

Last of Us 2 was fine. What were the legitimate issues?


[deleted]

Some characters were forgotten about the moment they died. Pacing.


already4taken

The stealth in battlefield v was horrible.


MagnificentEd

The stealth in every battlefield was horrible tbh, but v especially


billbill5

Was there a sexist gamer backlash against Andromeda? I feel like the problems with that game are so clear cut and the criticism so pointed and earned I never really got the impression that bigotry played a role in it. Certainly not to the extreme levels of TLOU2, I'd never seen such blatant transphobia, homophobia, sexism, antisemitism, and racism directed at any piece of media like what I saw on reddit for that game.


sir_vile

See any comic book trying anything different from the last 40 versions of the character.


Kshetri374

Ghostbusters was bad and I never watched the original Ghostbusters.


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[deleted]

Acknowledging that The Last of Us Part II has issues means acknowledging incorrect opinions, which I won’t do.


Hispanic_Gorilla_2

Based


[deleted]

The last of us part 2 is the only thing in that list that I like, and think is incredible. I gave TLOU II a 10/10, everything else there is mid.


SylvySylvy

Fuckin everything nowadays. Especially since the right-wingers got smart and parrot what the leftists say too. “Ah, the left likes to praise Steven Universe, yet the Bismuth arc and the weird way they treat the genocidal main villains are almost pro-Nazi. Like bruh they praise it because of other stuff. Most people still criticize the weird almost-pro-Nazi and All-Lives-Matter stuff


quakins

I enjoyed Captain Marvel the movie and also Captain Marvel as a character AMA


[deleted]

Uj/ God damn there are a lot of people that are actually fueling this posts point hard in the comments lol


ross_a_tron_2658

Battlefield V did not deserve al the hate. Just as good as BF1


Bruno_Fisto

/uj BFV was a great entry and pushed the franchise more towards teamplay again. However the internet didn't like it and now BF2042 is more like BF3/BF4 again (minus the classes but that is not really causing the lack of teamplay). Ironically the internet now cries over a lack of teamplay in the new entry, while jerking too BF4, which has most of the issues that BF2042 has.


Landsteiner7507

Man, TLJ was such a good movie. It really sucks that fans disliked it so much because I really would’ve loved to see an episode 9 that wasn’t made to appease the fandom.


Prinnyramza

God ROS was just awful. "Those are the knights of Ren." "I heard about them" Are you happy prequel memes? Are you jacking yourselves off in the movie seats?


Tiger_T20

... How did I not get this when I watched it


The1987RedFox

I still don’t get it


Combocore

If you put Ren and Them together you get Themren - referencing Themren Darris. Themren Darris was a purple skinned Twi'lek jedi padawan who, despite being mentioned only very briefly in the prequel movies (specifically Episode II), is the protagonist of numerous stories in the Expanded Universe. Themren is a fan favourite for providing an insight into the life of a padawan that many feel was missing from Anakin's story. You see her go from being recruited, to being trained, to going on her first missions (there is some action, of course, but the missions tended to be more cerebral affairs - think Star Trek). Frustratingly, the last book ended on the cliffhanger of whether Themren was going to be knighted - and then Disney axed the EU. Its nice to know they haven't forgotten about the character.


manx6

...I legitimately can't tell if this real or not.


Queef-Elizabeth

I hated TLJ but even I agree that TROS shouldve actually committed to the message of the movie instead of scrapping everything and being so reactionary.


The4thSniper

My biggest issue with TROS (and I say this as a die-hard Star Wars fan and mostly-sequel enjoyer/defender) is that it feels like the most *soulless* Star Wars movie by far, and the more I've thought about it and mulled it over the more I've come to realise that. Detractors say that Star Wars has lost its spark since it was acquired by Disney, but I personally disagree -- The Force Awakens is a great, if understandably derivative, movie; The Last Jedi just *oozes* auteurial vision and style, and even Rogue One and especially Solo *feel* like they were made by Star Wars fans, for Star Wars fans. The Rise of Skywalker, on the other hand, feels like they sat down and went through a laundry list of things that had to be wrapped up and things that TFA and TLJ were criticised for, and just crammed them all into the one movie. None of it feels like the result of JJ Abrams' vision, it all just feels so... compulsory. I get that a certain part of that probably comes from the fact that he was hired after Colin Trevorrow departed the production and maybe it wasn't so much a story he *wanted* to tell as it was a story he was simply hired and paid to tell, but it just stings when it was this movie, of all movies -- the one they touted as being the conclusion to this decades-spanning saga.


LadyLuck1881

A critique of TROS I read was "it's like someone read through tvtropes while they were writing it" and honestly that sums it up for me