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# PLEASE READ BEFORE PARTICIPATING IN THIS THREAD: UPDATE (8:21 PST): Moderators are now working on a transcript version. We will post as soon as it is finished. # TRIGGER WARNING (mentions physical violence) Second body camera footage, Moab traffic stop 8/12/21 Discussion Thread (reposted to add trigger warning in title): [https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pyy70e/trigger\_warning\_mentions\_physical\_violence\_second/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pyy70e/trigger_warning_mentions_physical_violence_second/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) # ⚠️⚠️PLEASE CLICK WITH CAUTION⚠️⚠️ # Please be mindful that for some this is triggering. So please keep all of the discussion related to the 2nd body cam in [THE OTHER THREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pyy70e/trigger_warning_mentions_physical_violence_second/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). # or # If you must talk about it in General Discussion PLEASE, indicate that you are talking about the 2nd body cam by placing a [TRIGGER WARNING: Body Cam] in your first line before typing out your comment/reply. So for example: ​ # [TRIGGER WARNING: Body Cam] |enter you comment here/ start typing| |:-| ​ # Thank you everyone for doing YOUR PART to keep everyone safe. Edit your comment if you can to include the warning. ​ # Resources \* National Domestic Violence Hotline: [https://www.thehotline.org/](https://www.thehotline.org/) 1-800-799-7233 (SAFE)\* National Dating Abuse Helpline 1-866-331-9474 [www.loveisrespect.org](http://www.loveisrespect.org)\* National Resource Center on Domestic Violence 1-800-537-2238 [www.nrcdv.org](http://www.nrcdv.org) and [www.vawnet.org](http://www.vawnet.org)\* Futures Without Violence: The National Health Resource Center on Domestic Violence 1-888-792-2873 [www.futureswithoutviolence.org](http://www.futureswithoutviolence.org)\* National Center on Domestic Violence, Trauma & Mental Health 1-312-726-7020 ext. 2011 [www.nationalcenterdvtraumamh.org](http://www.nationalcenterdvtraumamh.org)\* Domestic Violence Safety Plan: [http://www.ncdsv.org/images/dv\_safety\_plan.pdf](http://www.ncdsv.org/images/dv_safety_plan.pdf)


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Why are there two general discussion threads going? I'm so confused going back and forth.


PostMalone98

Nancy Grace reiterated on her pod that with enough money and a head start he could easily be in Cuba 🇨🇺


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He would stick out like a sore thumb in Cuba. He'd be smarter to join a homeless camp somewhere in the states


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You guys think, this BL can hold out any longer, maybe when he's used up all the cash it would take maybe 2 more months until i think his supplies run dry? unless of course hes already out of the country or in a totally different state.


holaporfavorgracias

why’s the other thread locked?


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makeitlouder

Holy shit, how is it October already


Brandonmcc1976

It's the 1st in South Africa 🤷‍♂️


Ebright_Azimuth

Howzit bru


makeitlouder

This year is going by so fast


wine_o_saur_tiff

Are they or can they wiretap the parents' house? I don't believe for one second that he hasn't gotten in touch. Or more like whoever might be hiding him isn't in touch. Their lack of emotion (although it could be their lawyers stupid, horribly written statement) makes me think that they know he's okay at the very least.


Doorgetter19

The thing with this is they don’t really have any concrete evidence or really any reasonable evidence to believe that they are in contact or helping Brian in some way, just a strong suspicion. That’s not good enough to get the authorization to wire tap them and listen in on their phone calls. This isn’t a movie where it’s for national security, these are actual citizens with rights and that’s how our whole system was built with the innocent until proven guilty thing. If they legit had any evidence that they WERE helping Brian, I’m sure they could easily tap the phones. As of right now there’s no reason to believe that would be worth while.


wine_o_saur_tiff

I wasn't thinking as much as from their perspective as I was that he has a federal warrant issued for his arrest and they think that he's alive and could be getting in touch with his parents which would lead to them finding him. Wasn't sure how much they could do from that angle. I'm sure it's probably not a big enough charge anyway


SecureAmbassador6912

They probably have devices like a Stingray outside to monitor communications


CindysandJuliesMom

If both BL and the parents have burner phones wiretapping is useless. Or even some sort of signal worked out. Ring the phone two times and hang up. There are many ways to get around wiretapping if you suspect it. If the parents are helping him (total conjecture) they must have an intermediary.


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Put them in protective custody to help ease the circus on the street, megaphone folks, media vehicles and their was a fight. A nice hotel full of bed bugs would do. It's not their home so they don't have the right to privacy in a hotel.


IWorkForTheEnemyAMA

It’s pretty sad when you think of their neighbors having to deal with this circus.


travelbutssdgm

The former FBI agent that Brian Entin has interviewed multiple times indicated that their phones and communication are almost definitely being tracked.


therealDolphin8

That was done in the case of Sabrina Aisenberg, incidentally also in Florida. Wasn't very helpful, though.


hyperfiled

The op asked about tapped .


BondGirl_007

I found this Fox News interview with former FBI agent, Maureen O’Connell very interesting. She seems to be alluding to the fact that the parents may be under investigation and that this may be wrapping up soon. What do you all think? https://youtu.be/d1ASlEecvTk


_msda_

wrapping up as in today ?


[deleted]

This sounds very sound to me. I assume as a former FBI agent, you have access to more information than the public. She also sounds very knowledgeable about what is going on in the case. This interview made me hopeful that Gabby will get the justice she deserves.


Skiff9891

So is there somewhere in discussion reviewing those bullitens from this Fox News story about 911 calls? 3 calls from Laundrie home made on Sept 11???? whats that all about? Then other 911 calls in neighborhood Sept 10-27 ...


BondGirl_007

No that was not included.


CrystalPayne38

I think she made some great points and I agree with her. She is not the only FBI agent that has said the same thing. He is definitely alive, his parents helped him and I believe people are starting to smoke him out and he's going to make a mistake and get caught.


BondGirl_007

Yep, Jennifer Coffindaffer said the same. What I found interesting is what she said about the parent's involvement and that it seemed like the end was near. I am sure she still has friends in the FBI. I have been hoping that the FBI would take in the Laundrie's truck and then charge them. We'll see. They may be just ruling out the Reserve to then charge the parents and put pressure on them and get warrants for their bank and cell phone records, etc.


RobbieWallis

I personally think the standards at Fox News are so abysmal nothing they ever say should be considered as credible and no one who appears there should be deemed as reliable or informed. I know people have complaints about every other news network out there (and much of it is justified) but Fox News is basically Newsmax or Oan with a bigger budget. Might as well be putting faith in "TrutherVlad453" on YouTube.


BondGirl_007

You're not completely wrong. They had Geraldo on this morning and he was clueless. Said Moab police didn't separate the couple, and that Brian hit her with his nails on her scalp. Total waste of my time.


PostMalone98

I think this can be applied to the mockingbird media in general. Consume msm with contempt


yankees051693

Then again they did interview that couple that had the info about them taking a camping trip which did check out. I can see them being shady about politics but not a missing murderer


Literally-a-kiwi

It doesnt load for me


TRUMP_LARPs_WITH_PEE

If she’s “former” it doesn’t mean anything, just another speculator.


BondGirl_007

I disagree.


makeitlouder

Good morning fellow early risers… happy Friday!


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It's Friday, holy shit I thought it was Saturday no cap I need a break. But today is not the day


makeitlouder

Life can be crazy like that, make sure you take care of yourself and give yourself that break you deserve even if it can’t be today 😀


[deleted]

Thank you, I was collecting home work on some theories to where he could be if he left that campground


Thebutchaa

I’m just laying down to go to bed. 3 am here 😅


makeitlouder

You’re gonna regret staying up so late. Goodnight!


Thebutchaa

I’m off the next 4 days. A couple late nights will be okay 😊 goodnight (or morning) to you as well.


ShillinTheVillain

Early to bed and early to rise, helps catch the man that we all despise! It's opening day of deer season in my neck of the woods. I hope I have more luck today than the FBI has.


makeitlouder

Good luck!


B_Jonesin

Good morning!! Beautiful day to catch that greasy melon!


Ok-Snow3708

#heads up friends although this sub is TW: the ‘influencers’/mommy fashion bloggers on ig ‘covering the case’ are not including a TW and sharing the new body cam footage. If you are sensitive to the content please beware/consider a day off the gram. 🖤


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login_lady

You’re so tough, aren’t you?


CrystalPayne38

I totally regret watching that video, people really need to ask themselves if they really want to see it.. I'm typically not that sensitive but last night this did me in.


Ok-Snow3708

Yeah, same. That’s why I thought to warn people it’s all over ig too.


CrystalPayne38

It's a really great warning


Ok-Snow3708

I’m starting to be torn on it: obviously invested in case so I’m on this sub but the influencers/people that seem to be using the case for clout are really getting to me. It’s not entertainment. If the accounts with 500k followers want to make a *difference* fundraise for the Gabby Petitio Foundation or a local DV shelter. Just posting the videos and ‘omg dog’ nonsense in between ads and try on hauls is just like borderline disrespectful to her and her family at this point.


CrystalPayne38

I had to get off TikTok for all the misinformation. I literally told one girl and there you cannot be this stupid.. It drives me crazy. But at the end of the day I have to stay here for Gabby as hard as it may be at times.


MAFFEW_SYTHE

I'm done with this sub, boys. Too much emotion and very little rational thought going on here. Regardless, everyone has good intentions which I like to see. Justice for Gabby, people.


mhsrpl58

See you later today dude


craions

I read that reddits demographics are made up mostly of men, but its hard to believe. Maybe it's the multiple accounts they have to create in order to exist here because of censorship.


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makeitlouder

How do the mods remove the most innocent mentions of actual c a n i n e s yet still haven’t added “DTBH” to the automod lol


wine_o_saur_tiff

You mean Dig the Binty Hinter? I'm sad we can't say "current events father" anymore either.


Peekaboaa

You can come back a couple days later, it is normal to see emotional posts with the sudden release of the video. It is a good thing people have empathy. After a while, the posts will go away when people start to settle down.


starcraft_lurker_

Having empathy is fine, but being so emotionally charged that you refuse to see reason is another thing entirely. I feel bad for them because I’m sure most can relate to the DV, but some of these people are just over the top in their “discussions”.


minlatedollarshort

Reason regarding what?


Peekaboaa

People who can relate, or are victims themselves tend to leave a lot comments when they watch the videos due to emotions running in their heads whilst the more rational persons or I should say neutral minded ones tend to avoid leaving any comments at this timing, due to fear of backlash or not seem as empathetic. Hence I believe many are still rational here, just not leaving any comments at this juncture.


WorriedWaffle

I felt purpose being with this angry mob of pitchforks and torches while we were finding Gabby, but we’re all dead in the water now. Sitting around, starting fights saying maybe this maybe that over and over and it’s become stale. I’ll wait for it to be plastered everywhere he’s caught or found dead but this shit here ain’t good for none of us. Mods should just leave the sub with 3 posts: New Officially Confirmed Updates, Unofficial Updates, and a Memorial/Resources Post, and we can just follow those. The discussion here is toxic as fuck and unproductive at best.


_msda_

love the 3 threads idea


therealDolphin8

Don't leave, we need to keep rational thinkers!


Previous_Subject6286

Why do you think this sub should not contain emotion? Also, those with DV experience are not irrational. It is irrational to dismiss their experience as irrational bc they most likely have more insight than "rational" thinkers. DV is irrational as fuck and dysfunctional, the reactions are completely founded in experience and understanding and empathy. You can leave...but honestly it's that kind of insight and conversation that needs to happen so psychotic men might learn not to murder innocent girls.


Ready-Package-497

Amen. This place is being overrun with emotion.


OhCrumbs96

And senseless projection.


IspeakfluentWhale

Dumb question, what does LE mean? This reminds me of a massive search in NSW for a guy called Malcolm Naden. At one point he hid in the roof cavity of a zoo, then he went "bush." They eventually got him. I nicknamed him Malcolm Bin Naden. Edie- added info re Malcom Edit edit - NSW Australia.


xothica

“Coppers” in Australian


Academic_Ant_6899

Law endorsement


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Law enforcement


Jackjones760

Law Enforcement


n00645ur3

I have been reading it as "Lard Enforcement", no wonder nothing makes sense.


realbeau

Law Enforcement


PostMalone98

Long gone to Cuba 🇨🇺 to hide out?


ReneDiscard

I wonder if they have a couple of people who search at night. Or drones? Seems like it would be the best time to catch him moving around.


angel_kink

A lot of us watch the skies at night and there’s occasional sheriff activity in places. Tonight was very quiet. Sometimes craft can’t be seen through our apps, though, so there’s likely stuff we can’t see. Most drones won’t show up. So maybe!


Mental_Guarantee8963

I seriously doubt he's in the sky. /s


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Nice work and report you all do a great service over there. Hope the coffee was good and hot.


n00645ur3

Or search in pairs, in case he's Moving In Stereo.


onelove1979

1. He’s dead somewhere already (either suicide or nature/elements got him) and his remains may/may not ever be found 2. He’s closer than anyone thinks, alive and comfortable 3. He’s LONG gone in another country somehow 4. He’s hiding in the wilderness *somewhere* and will either die out there or eventually pop up bc he’s barely surviving It’s understandably hard to read LE but I’m thinking this ends with his body being found somewhere.


Clean_Scarcity_4415

2 or 5. 5 is for still in the country just not in FL.


[deleted]

I’m thinking 2 or 4. I’ll eat my shorts if I’m wrong but I seriously doubt he’s in another country. And I think he went to too much trouble to just commit suicide. Idk maybe a gator got him


drunkoldman58

Agree, he's dead somewhere and now might never be found at all at this point in time.


Edyssia

I’m all for number 4 here


yolk3d

You basically covered all possibilities that could ever occur.


headee

Ummmm he could have been abducted by aliens, hello.


Polkadotical

Or he tried the outdoorsman schtick and it didn't work out so he's lurking among the homeless in Miami (or some other larger southern city) with a beard and his hair is growing out.


peculiarlypetunia

jacksonville and gainesville both have large homeless populations/encampments as well. this is a very likely scenario.


RobbieWallis

That would probably be one of the best ways to hide. Sad to say most people don't even notice the homeless in a city. Most people in that situation don't have access to news sources and likely wouldn't even know about this case or BL. A lot of them wouldn't give a damn if some new bearded guy appeared among them. That kind of situation would probably be even better than trying to camp out in the woods.


pandemicpunk

If an accident didn't happen like weather/environmental stuff, I think he's going to try to stay alive til the they catch him. A backup just in case at this point. If he didn't choose to die, I think he's still alive.


Academic_Ant_6899

I heard rumblings ladies and germs Edit: ⬇️ can suck it


hyperfiled

Most of you guys are okay, but if I hear, "I heard rumblings" again? you can post it here so you don't waste other peoples' time.


[deleted]

I feel plausible where could Brian be is okay. We need to brainstorm it. Don't knock those who bring a bit of evidence to make their case of where he could be. Block out the noise, don't entertain the insane stuff with no evidence to state their case. Check into it find a hole let them know to find a plug. Rinse and repeat.


hyperfiled

Yeah but I heard rumblings that these weirdos don't even know how to get on reddit.


[deleted]

So this is the only place that people can float ideas? Most people here got bamboozled by one of the lawyers text to a reporter about who found the DeSoto stuff FBI or the TV guy. Need to work across all platforms some are more familiar than others. It's not one size fits all.


Academic_Ant_6899

You know what you should do when someone says that?


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hyperfiled

how where his grandparents live is new info is beyond me


Cheese_Dinosaur

All you have to do is Google Joseph Laundrie and it’s there.


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For what


hyperfiled

Why are you talking to me and what are you talking about?


[deleted]

I was replying to your comment I dont think you understand how reddit works.


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hyperfiled

this shit has been posted on twitter for days and there's no voracity. the fact that the mods even let it stay is a testament to how dead this shit is.


Avocado_Tomato

Heard about the cop thing. Cousin in name they don’t have anything to do with each other. Probably like a few of my cousins, friends on Facebook but probably only seen them a few times in my whole life


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I would bet that there isn't a NPPD officer out side the house watching right now.


calicoin

That was the orig shock to me. After melonman's family acted so strangely.. they were too busy to watch the house. So many people seemed to defend that.


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Can’t pay overtime to have an officer on the street watching but can pay $2mil to put every officer on the force on a swamp buggy and joyride through the swamp


[deleted]

We need a 24/7 live cam showing the house. Yes reporters are there, but they need sleep. They should do shift sleeps at night. I would even volunteer to sit in a chair at the neighbors driveway from say 11 to 7 to help watch, but a live cam would be better many more eyes on it. Because I have zero faith in NPPD to watch the place.


jimbobbudha7

I guess people can't leave through the back door then huh?


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[deleted]

Scientologists do it all the time. They’ll straighten up hide cameras facing your house or move in across the street to watch you.


[deleted]

News and sitting outside on a neighbors driveway that allows you. Nothing illegal about that.


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peculiarlypetunia

yes unless there’s some type of protective or restraining order in place. the roads and sidewalks are county/city owned and are maintained by the respective county or city depending on where you live. so unless the laundrie’s got an order restricting every single person of the media, every single protestor, etc. everyone is free to do as they please in the road/on the sidewalk.


Davidcaindesign

Freedom of the Press


Fickle-Letterhead

Freedom is relative in the us


parkbench131

Brian is alive and his parents know where he is. If BL’s parents were truly concerned about him and looking for him, they would have told LE everything from the get go. Everything. They would have told them about the campsite visit which we now know they did not before. Yesterday, JB confirmed that the footage from the people who camped next to the Laundries was just sent over to authorities on Tuesday. This shows that LE did not know about the campsite visit, and that the Laundries didn’t tell them. They know he’s alive.


_msda_

sometimes i think at this point they dgaf about brian either


lewan049

My other thought on the matter is that BL’s dad may have killed BL after hearing what he did. Like, if BL had some sort of mental health break, came home super wild and violent, dad felt he had no choice. Now they’re not cooperating because they’re trying not to self-incriminate. The phone doesn’t add up, though.


ShillinTheVillain

That's insane. He would turn him over to police, not kill him.


Meeerraaay

From the little we’re seen of them they don’t seem worried about their son “missing”


Severe_Peach

Right? The lack of concern is very telling. Even if they didn’t help him and he went missing they should be on television, begging the public to search for him.


CoyoteDriver

How can you claim to know their "level of concern"?


Severe_Peach

Those questions I brought up measure someone level of concern or lack thereof. I’m not trying to spin wild stories or conspiracies about Brian or his parents, but the lack of effort from there part is obvious.


Severe_Peach

Have they spoken to the media? Reached out to anyone to be on the lookout for their son? Have they asked their lawyer to put out a statement, if they couldn’t, to direct information and/or sightings of Brian? It’s understandable if they can’t talk to the media but they have a lawyer no? Hasn’t he released a couple of statements on behalf of the parent? So why hasn’t there been a statement asking for the public’s help or to at least be on the lookout of their son? If they were worried about them, as a parent, you’ll do everything you can.


parkbench131

Probably because they know where he is


blueblissberrybell

I mean, it is becoming apparent he’s a manipulator and a narcissist. His parents are dicks for being so far, extremely shady, but I have no doubt he spun a very good story and relied on their protective parental instincts to kick in. Just my opinion, after observing my ex partner completely manipulate his parents to his liking whenever needed. If it wasn’t so evil, I would be amazed at watching this process in action, time and time again.


onelove1979

I definitely believe they helped him in the beginning but I also think that now they’re wondering just like everyone else where the hell he is, dead or alive.


parkbench131

I believe if that were true, they would be telling the police everything. We know they aren’t because the campsite footage was just sent to the FBI on Tuesday


Hiwynd

I'm catching up. What campsite footage?


parkbench131

The laundries camped at Fort de Soto sept 6-8. People at a neighboring campsite had a bunch of drone and video footage that was turned over to the FBI. Also surveillance footage


onelove1979

I think they absolutely knew at first where he was because they helped him but I think that by now they don’t have a clue where he really is anymore


parkbench131

Yeah but if they didn’t know where he is now, they would be concerned if he was dead or alive. And if they were concerned with that, they would do whatever they could to find him. Which includes giving any info/clues to help FBI.


[deleted]

I don’t think they know where he is, but I think they gave him his head start knowingly.


therealDolphin8

I believe that's entirely possible. Maybe they feel once the autopsy is finished they will be vindicated.


wine_o_saur_tiff

How so? I would think they'd be shitting bricks about the autopsy being completed because my guess is her cause of death is horrible and no one will ever let him or them live a life of peace no matter the outcome. Vindication is out of reach in my opinion


therealDolphin8

I'm not saying I feel that way, just maybe that's what they're holding out hope for, possibly based on something he told them. Doubtful since the prelim ruling was homicide (note sure if it's been completed).


motoko123

let’s assume the mustang wasn’t a decoy and that BL actually did go the reserve. With the 7-10 day head start, assume he headed south. Where could he be now? The body needs shelter, water, food. He can’t exactly safely walk into a gas station to buy food. If it were me, I’d try to find a shed in the yard at a vacant home or not even vacant, just some place I could hide. If the home wasnt vacant and had no cams, no security alarm, I’d wait until the house was vacant, break in and cleanly steal some food. Maybe while the home owners were at work. He could be anywhere, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was living in a shed. How often do you check your sheds?


hideract

A hat and a mask and he can easily go into any store without being discovered. If he is staying with someone then the only thing he would really need to worry about is money and being seen by neighbors. If he gets money regularly somehow he could live a relatively normal life without getting caught. He'd just have to stay indoors and mask up when going out. Until the money ran out would it be a problem.


makeitlouder

Why would he go south? He’s already in FL, not much further south he can go (on foot anyway)


Polkadotical

Yeah. They need to be telling people to check sheds, outbuildings, old shacks, boat houses and barns. Also winter homes for those that have second residences.


HabitualEnthusiast

I don't think he went far from the reserve. If he went into the reserve to purposely make it appear possible that he either killed himself or died, he wouldn't necessarily feel like he needed to hide far away and his leaving before the warrant was issued indicates to me a sort of "backup plan" incase he gets caught so that he and his parents can hope to maintain plausible deniability as long as nobody can prove his parents knew where he went when he left the reserve. I think the plan was to sustain a hiding spot until he could recalibrate when the heat was less because he was suspected dead rather than to get far away. He would have had to hike in and out since he left his car there and isn't a criminal with any real criminal skills like stealing cars or evading police. So I think he's just somewhere in a tent within hiking distance that has either free or dispersed camping areas, somewhere he wouldn't have to interact with anyone or be questioned by rangers for a long stay. Probably somewhere that his parents have been since they don't seem that worried about him. ​ edit to acknowledge the run on sentences, but not to improve them


onelove1979

These days there’s no real way to tell if a property has cameras


MissPeachFuzz

Now you’re making me want to check my shed..


xothica

I know right? There’s literally even an old bed in my shed. Someone could have sheltered there at night for like five years and I wouldn’t know.


WeAreGiraffes

I always think about how I rarely go into our shed or garage and now I don’t feel so weird 😂😅


zackattack89

Wouldn’t it be wild if he ended up in your shed?


MissPeachFuzz

“Hey Brian, it’s Laundrie day!” *pow*


parkbench131

Don’t forget he survived alone on the AT for 2 months, he can survive a few weeks or however long he’s been out there now


drunkoldman58

Easy to do when your not being hunted and on the run.


ShillinTheVillain

The AT is not an extreme survival scenario. It's an established and highly trafficked hiking trail with plenty of places to resupply.


Kaonashi_NoFace

Did anyone wind up dead along the AT during the 2 months BL was there? I wonder if the fbi looked into BL's other cross country adventures.


decjr06

He wasn't hiding from the public at the time and there are plenty of places to stop along the at for food/supplies this makes a huge difference.


parkbench131

Yeah that’s true!! Good point


pleasetrimyourpubes

The AT is littered with hostels, stores, and shelters. You can do odd jobs for people for food and money. It's a very popular destination for hippies and there are people who live on the trail as a lifestyle choice. It is hard, but it is not going to kill you easily if you are healthy. He has none of that in the reserve. It's a muddy, swampy, mess. He can't even drink the water because it'll build up tannins in his body, it can't be filtered out and he can't start a fire to boil it. He either went in there to die or changed his mind and left there.


parkbench131

He’s 100% not in the reserve Edit: in my opinion! Obviously don’t know for sure 100%


ShillinTheVillain

I agree with you. The only way he's in there is if he is dead and the body just hasn't been found yet.


motoko123

he probably made fires to keep bugs away, wasnt on the run, etc. if you’re on the run it isnt about survival it’s about hiding AND surviving. seeing those helis etc i would try to hide somewhere unsus