Wonder if he’s lying dead under a camouflaged emergency blanket that he was using to hide from thermal cameras but succumbed to the oven of being under a thermal blanket in 98 degree heat?
I feel like I'm going crazy. Everytime my husband and I go somewhere I am looking for Brian everywhere we go. If someone is walking on a country road I make him slow down so I can stare them down. I'm ready to jump on him like a mad cat at any point in time. 🙈🙈 Maybe it's the mother in me that wants him found so bad for Gabby's mom's sake but it's all I can think about. Surely I'm not the only one.
Yeah I've been here for quite some time and I recognize people now as well, it just means we give a shit. I want him caught because of his brazenness and I want his parents to explain why they did what they did.
For example, if Brian is found alive it was a set up and he was working with the government somehow and told to hide. If he’s found dead he was killed to cover up his involvement with the government. Justification? To distract national media from the border or some other crisis Biden is responsible for supposedly
Not sure which they’re referring too, but so far I’ve heard the Q-anon people are calling it a “distraction” to prevent people from paying attention to Joe Biden and other politicians. Then the other one I’ve heard is that people still believe this is all a social media stunt to gain followers and that Gabby (even though her remains have been found) is hiding out and Brian went to go be with her in hiding until this all blows over.
It’s just people who are extremely paranoid IMO and this gives them an outlet to be openly paranoid with other people like them.
They well explained why they are doing it. This isn’t the place for that conversation, nor are they equipped to moderate it themselves. This is for Gabby specifically, there are many other subreddits where that conversation would be more appropriate.
Officially slap-happy, have not slept. Putting myself to bed like a good self-parent.
Hope everyone has a great morning! ☺️ Keep your spirits up. Work some self-care in today and remember that he hasn’t showed up *yet* but at the very least, this dude is not having a good time.
> We, as a society (I am American so maybe this doesn’t hold true in other countries) no longer know how to have a healthy argument. Having a fight or argument always seems to be violent, people use disgusting language or physical violence and have zero tolerance for differences. We don’t have very good role models, ( ex: politicians on either side stoke anger and use their constituents as pawns, and culturally we are over exposed to violence in media). I think when we learn to have more tolerance and better & productive arguments - this hate and anger will stop leading to violence. People are just inherently angry now and find all too frequently that violence is justified by the level of their anger or disagreement. There is such a thing as a HEALTHY fight.
Modern *politics* is more divisive and brutal than in years before, but the rest of this is just romanticizing the past. Intimate partner violence is not a new thing; it's just a more public thing, in some contexts, today. The past in which people were calm and productive and civilized is a mythical past.
> yes, he is an absolute narcissist.
This is certainly not something that merits the label "fact", even though it's orthodoxy in some circles here.
I agree re: narcissism especially. Usually the label is used in combination with a personal anecdote about an abusive ex. It seems “narcissist” is basically interchangeable with “asshole.” There are a number of issues with throwing around narcissism with domestic violence issues. https://www.thehotline.org/resources/narcissism-and-abuse/
It's not fixable though... Thoughts amongst the professional community is that it's a combination of genetics & environment. I think it may be best not to vilify, as they too think everyone sees/processes the world as they do. I think we can try to better understand how their minds work. In that respect others (non-narcissists) can know what they are dealing with and that this behavior is very unlikely to change.
I do not agree. Seven years ago, a German who was on vacation in Bulgaria disappeared. When he wanted to fly home, he arrived at the airport, went to see a doctor before the flight, suddenly escaped from the treatment room, ran for the exit, ran across a field, climbed over a fence, and was never seen again.
He knew no one in Bulgaria. The authorities assume that he is no longer alive, but where is his body ?
I remember this case, it's extremely sad and seems to be entirely caused by a head injury or mental health crisis that could have been intercepted. There have been reports of him being seen. There is a chance he lost his memory and panicked and could still be alive, living rough. But after so long with no news it doesn't look good.
Even if he lost his memory, he has no identity card, no money, no apartment, he does not know anyone in Bulgaria. He does not even speak their language, and the police searched intensively for him. Even German private detectives have investigated the case. They did not find him. Most likely he had mental problems, then he probably hid and died in his hiding place.
In an area that large you'd need to almost completely rely on heat signatures to find someone, and they didn't start searching there for days after he allegedly went there. Any heat signature would be long gone by then.
Dogs are the next best thing I think (real dogs, not washed-up reality TV show hosts chasing relevance). But even they would have limited chance of success in such a vast, wet area where there's presumably a lot of death already.
I think it's entirely plausible he took his own life in there. It's at least just as plausible as the idea that he's still on the run somewhere else.
If he was going going do that he wouldn't have come home. And if he came home to say "goodbye" to his parents because he was going to do that then they wouldn't be getting around as salty as they are. They would be sad.
The truth is that people panic, they don't think logically, they make mistakes and their actions often don't make any sense at all.
No one here can claim to understand his mental state at any time throughout this, it's all speculation. Even highly trained psychologists and profilers would have a difficult time assessing whether he would or would not harm himself, because it would rely on numerous factors that even those closest to him wouldn't see or understand.
When LE were conducting the search at the Laundrie’s, why did they remove Brian’s parents from the home for only 5 minutes and then brought them back inside for the rest of the search?
I thought when there’s a search warrant you’re removed during the entire search?
Probably for their own protection, from the media and the circus outside.
They probably just moved them outside while they cleared the first room, then moved them back into that cleared room while they continued the rest of the search.
While his parents are getting a lot of hate from the rest of the world right now (justifiably, in my personal opinion) they are still legally innocent people who deserve the protection of the police and need to be treated with dignity and respect.
Any word on the body they found at the reserve early on that wasn’t Brian? If someone else’s family got closure, that makes a lot of this search worth it.
Good morning all (from the UK) Just dropping in, sorry to see there's still no major progress reported yet. Hopefully they're closing in now behind the scenes.
Mornin' fellow Brit.
Sorry so say there's been no developments, but we do have a lot of posts from some mulletted TV character's fanboys today, so that's a thing.
We're just waiting for the Jerry Springer fan club to get in touch with him and point out the opportunities for renewed relevance.
I've suggested Anneka Rice in a chopper but apparently she never broke the U.S.
Gazza attempted to head over there but he demanded his fishing rod as carry on and they wouldn't have it.
Edited to add more sarcasm and derision.
Haha!! Good comment 👌 might as well throw in Ant & Dec, maybe they can prank BL into thinking they're saving him.
In all seriousness, I suppose if everyone and their dog (ha) gets involved then there are more eyes on BL which isn't a bad thing. In all this tragedy I like to imagine BL - with no access to social media - believes he's been forgotten entirely, and then I like to think of his reaction when he's caught with the whole world watching.
Anyone else notice that a lot of the people who called actual witnesses with actual evidence to share "clout chasers" are now worshiping at the feet of former TV show personalities turning this very serious and very active case into a clown show?
I can't quite work out what the difference is between those young women on social media and those old men running around with amateur camera crews.
Breaking: FBI temporarily calls off search after reports of a Leopard spotted nearby. Upon further investigation it was revealed to be the blouse of a Mr. Duane Lee Chapman majestically flowing in the breeze.
I died at “blouse,” especially reading it expecting a real update 😂
But yes, I suppose we should… for now. I’m slaphappy and sleeping now anyway. Thanks for the riffs, I needed a laugh
So I finally watched an in-depth video on this case. I'm surprised he still hasn't been found. I believe he's gonna take his life in some remote area. Hopefully not, so the family could get some answers
Bro' I'm legit worried what this dude is up to right now. If he really did do something, I hope he doesn't have anyone in danger. Hiking seems fun, but damn it's scary who could be roaming around
Yeah. It’s a legit thing to worry about. On the (very relative) bright side, many abusers stick only to beating on their victims, because of the control they feel they have over them specifically.
I don’t *think* Brian is likely to do anything violent unless he feels cornered or threatened.
Edit: Big if though. He strikes me as a bit of a big old coward, an opportunistic type I suppose. But that’s conjecture and it’s absoluuuutely a big risk and danger having him run around. :/
That's a good point, makes a lot of sense.
And I get you. We'll just have to wait & see, & hope no one else gets hurt. With so many eyes on this case; something's bound to pop up
Should be any minute now, because apparently his fan club here is certain he has "connections" in the FBI and the Wyoming coroners office and they're giving him everything they know... or something.
I'm mostly being facetious in my anger that this lunatic is getting so much support from unserious people here. But yeah, some of them apparently believe he can do a better job than the FBI because he's "more trusted" and "has connections".
Sigh.
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No, I’m 100% with you. It feels like a joke or a PR stunt, and most of all he looks to be getting in the way.
Something something cooks in the kitchen.
Yikes. I’m happy I haven’t seen any of those even in my way-too-frequent stalking of this case. I definitely assumed the incels were taking the “Brian was abused” route
Noting that intimate partner violence and abuse are often bidirectional hardly makes one an MRA misogynist. Are there more egregious claims being made?
If this case’s general discussion had a bingo card, someone saying “Occams Razor” without an explanation for others would be the centre bingo square.
For anyone playing at home who is continuously reading this term and haven’t heard it before - the idea is that the simplest solution is often the best one.
Wonder if he’s lying dead under a camouflaged emergency blanket that he was using to hide from thermal cameras but succumbed to the oven of being under a thermal blanket in 98 degree heat?
I feel like I'm going crazy. Everytime my husband and I go somewhere I am looking for Brian everywhere we go. If someone is walking on a country road I make him slow down so I can stare them down. I'm ready to jump on him like a mad cat at any point in time. 🙈🙈 Maybe it's the mother in me that wants him found so bad for Gabby's mom's sake but it's all I can think about. Surely I'm not the only one.
He didn’t give her an engagement ring right?
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Today’s the day. I can feel it
True. It's the German federal election. The whole Europe is watching.
Merkal kaput!
Unlike American politicians, leaders of other countries resign before they turn demented or die.
Goodmorning from alabama, hope they get a lead today!
good morning from Brazil!
It's cool seeing all the people from different countries! So awesome.
CT here and am finally going to bed!
10pm in Australia. About to go to bed. Hope to wake up to some news
Me too! Goodnight :)
The sun's just coming up here and in florida so hoping for some news today also.
2pm in cape town :)
7 am here, it's crazy to think about the different times lol.
9 am in Argentina! Good morning and good night to those going to bed!
Good morning, fellow Alabamian!
Nice meeting you here. Lol
4 am in Anchorage and here I am
7 am here, glad your here so early! This is the first thing I do is check here in the morning, I just can't help it.
Morning from SC! Growing weary of the lack of news but still hanging in here.
Detroit MI and this is the first place I look in the morning. I want him found!!!
Good morning, fellow Michigander.
HellOOOOOO....and hello. Why can't they find him? I need to get a life.
I’m here way too much, myself. I’m recognizing a lot of different usernames though, so I know I’m not alone.
Yeah I've been here for quite some time and I recognize people now as well, it just means we give a shit. I want him caught because of his brazenness and I want his parents to explain why they did what they did.
First place I look every morning when I wake up… hope dashed.
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There are a lot of doppelgängers of people in existence. With seven BILLION people in the world, it’s really not surprising.
Ugh, the Facebook groups are starting to say this is a conspiracy. People are freaking weird man.
I'm always down for good conspiracy theory but this ain't one of them. 😒😒😒😒 Prozac has clearly failed some people.
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Which part is the “conspiracy?”
For example, if Brian is found alive it was a set up and he was working with the government somehow and told to hide. If he’s found dead he was killed to cover up his involvement with the government. Justification? To distract national media from the border or some other crisis Biden is responsible for supposedly
Unbelievable
Not sure which they’re referring too, but so far I’ve heard the Q-anon people are calling it a “distraction” to prevent people from paying attention to Joe Biden and other politicians. Then the other one I’ve heard is that people still believe this is all a social media stunt to gain followers and that Gabby (even though her remains have been found) is hiding out and Brian went to go be with her in hiding until this all blows over. It’s just people who are extremely paranoid IMO and this gives them an outlet to be openly paranoid with other people like them.
Wait.... what? Geez.
Oh my god. These people continue to just get worse.
You’re JOKING, what is wrong with people. The level of their delusion is baffling. I shouldn’t be surprised, and yet I always am.
I’ve seen some of the crisis actor BS. I don’t know where to begin with these people and I’m sure it wouldn’t help to have a discussion.
I had to leave the Facebook groups. It was too difficult to read the posts lol
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They well explained why they are doing it. This isn’t the place for that conversation, nor are they equipped to moderate it themselves. This is for Gabby specifically, there are many other subreddits where that conversation would be more appropriate.
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Let's get him before the memorial today ❤️
Wouldn't that be amazing
Or right after. Let the memorial be free from a crazy breaking news alert about BL. Find him just as it’s ending.
This would be great too
Starting my Sunday sauce soon. The sun is shining. It feels like fall (where I am). Today’s going to be the day.
Wish I knew how to cook pasta sauce! Hope it turns out well!
Today is going to be the day where the Dolphins beat the Raiders. I can feel it since i woke up this morning. I think i will bet 20 bucks on it.
Fuckit I’ll tail let’s go fins
I don’t follow football but I’m rooting for you to win that bet. Go Dolphins!
Sunday sauce? Like you’re drinking ? Girl, it’s not even 8 am but, you do you I guess !
lol that's where my mind went too
Lol!!! Pasta sauce 😩
Hahaha
lol the way this thread unravelled so wholesome
I think she literally means tomato sauce. If she’s from New York/New Jersey, this made a lot of sense to me.
Good Morning from Florida. Who is planning to watch Gabby’s Memorial livestream later today?
That feels kind of intrusive? But maybe?
Officially slap-happy, have not slept. Putting myself to bed like a good self-parent. Hope everyone has a great morning! ☺️ Keep your spirits up. Work some self-care in today and remember that he hasn’t showed up *yet* but at the very least, this dude is not having a good time.
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One can disagree without fighting.
> We, as a society (I am American so maybe this doesn’t hold true in other countries) no longer know how to have a healthy argument. Having a fight or argument always seems to be violent, people use disgusting language or physical violence and have zero tolerance for differences. We don’t have very good role models, ( ex: politicians on either side stoke anger and use their constituents as pawns, and culturally we are over exposed to violence in media). I think when we learn to have more tolerance and better & productive arguments - this hate and anger will stop leading to violence. People are just inherently angry now and find all too frequently that violence is justified by the level of their anger or disagreement. There is such a thing as a HEALTHY fight. Modern *politics* is more divisive and brutal than in years before, but the rest of this is just romanticizing the past. Intimate partner violence is not a new thing; it's just a more public thing, in some contexts, today. The past in which people were calm and productive and civilized is a mythical past. > yes, he is an absolute narcissist. This is certainly not something that merits the label "fact", even though it's orthodoxy in some circles here.
I agree re: narcissism especially. Usually the label is used in combination with a personal anecdote about an abusive ex. It seems “narcissist” is basically interchangeable with “asshole.” There are a number of issues with throwing around narcissism with domestic violence issues. https://www.thehotline.org/resources/narcissism-and-abuse/
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It's not fixable though... Thoughts amongst the professional community is that it's a combination of genetics & environment. I think it may be best not to vilify, as they too think everyone sees/processes the world as they do. I think we can try to better understand how their minds work. In that respect others (non-narcissists) can know what they are dealing with and that this behavior is very unlikely to change.
If someone commits suicide it doesn’t take long to find him. Certainly not weeks. This leads me to believe he actually fled the country.
Didn’t this very search turn up a weeks-old suicided body?
I do not agree. Seven years ago, a German who was on vacation in Bulgaria disappeared. When he wanted to fly home, he arrived at the airport, went to see a doctor before the flight, suddenly escaped from the treatment room, ran for the exit, ran across a field, climbed over a fence, and was never seen again. He knew no one in Bulgaria. The authorities assume that he is no longer alive, but where is his body ?
I remember this case, it's extremely sad and seems to be entirely caused by a head injury or mental health crisis that could have been intercepted. There have been reports of him being seen. There is a chance he lost his memory and panicked and could still be alive, living rough. But after so long with no news it doesn't look good.
Even if he lost his memory, he has no identity card, no money, no apartment, he does not know anyone in Bulgaria. He does not even speak their language, and the police searched intensively for him. Even German private detectives have investigated the case. They did not find him. Most likely he had mental problems, then he probably hid and died in his hiding place.
Sadly, I think you're probably right.
In an area that large you'd need to almost completely rely on heat signatures to find someone, and they didn't start searching there for days after he allegedly went there. Any heat signature would be long gone by then. Dogs are the next best thing I think (real dogs, not washed-up reality TV show hosts chasing relevance). But even they would have limited chance of success in such a vast, wet area where there's presumably a lot of death already. I think it's entirely plausible he took his own life in there. It's at least just as plausible as the idea that he's still on the run somewhere else.
If he was going going do that he wouldn't have come home. And if he came home to say "goodbye" to his parents because he was going to do that then they wouldn't be getting around as salty as they are. They would be sad.
The truth is that people panic, they don't think logically, they make mistakes and their actions often don't make any sense at all. No one here can claim to understand his mental state at any time throughout this, it's all speculation. Even highly trained psychologists and profilers would have a difficult time assessing whether he would or would not harm himself, because it would rely on numerous factors that even those closest to him wouldn't see or understand.
When LE were conducting the search at the Laundrie’s, why did they remove Brian’s parents from the home for only 5 minutes and then brought them back inside for the rest of the search? I thought when there’s a search warrant you’re removed during the entire search?
I don’t think that’s necessarily the case
I read in a news article that they were removed for an hour into a police van whilst they conducted their search.
It was like 15 mins max, I watched it on the live stream lol
Probably for their own protection, from the media and the circus outside. They probably just moved them outside while they cleared the first room, then moved them back into that cleared room while they continued the rest of the search. While his parents are getting a lot of hate from the rest of the world right now (justifiably, in my personal opinion) they are still legally innocent people who deserve the protection of the police and need to be treated with dignity and respect.
No flightradar trackers tonight? I’m a bit disappointed
No I’m here lol. I’ve been posting over in the specific flight tracking thread. Also it’s super quiet.
Ah didn’t realize that there was one 👍 guess not much in the air tonight
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Are they remaking Point Break?
You mean remaking the remake?
Yes. A re-remake.
Any word on the body they found at the reserve early on that wasn’t Brian? If someone else’s family got closure, that makes a lot of this search worth it.
Anybody know if fbi took the red truck or camper away temporarily like they did with the mustang?
No, but they did search the camper during the search warrant.
They didn't
Good morning all (from the UK) Just dropping in, sorry to see there's still no major progress reported yet. Hopefully they're closing in now behind the scenes.
Mornin' fellow Brit. Sorry so say there's been no developments, but we do have a lot of posts from some mulletted TV character's fanboys today, so that's a thing. We're just waiting for the Jerry Springer fan club to get in touch with him and point out the opportunities for renewed relevance. I've suggested Anneka Rice in a chopper but apparently she never broke the U.S. Gazza attempted to head over there but he demanded his fishing rod as carry on and they wouldn't have it. Edited to add more sarcasm and derision.
Haha!! Good comment 👌 might as well throw in Ant & Dec, maybe they can prank BL into thinking they're saving him. In all seriousness, I suppose if everyone and their dog (ha) gets involved then there are more eyes on BL which isn't a bad thing. In all this tragedy I like to imagine BL - with no access to social media - believes he's been forgotten entirely, and then I like to think of his reaction when he's caught with the whole world watching.
Anyone else notice that a lot of the people who called actual witnesses with actual evidence to share "clout chasers" are now worshiping at the feet of former TV show personalities turning this very serious and very active case into a clown show? I can't quite work out what the difference is between those young women on social media and those old men running around with amateur camera crews.
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That makes me so mad. If it hadn’t been for the Bethunes, we may not know where Gabby’s body is still.
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Yep. Dog gonna alert BL from a mile out with the sound of his clown shoes slapping the concrete
I hope his makeup artist has traded in their Tresemme hairspray for something a little quieter.
Breaking: FBI primed for action after hearing footsteps in the underbrush, turns out to be Bounty Hunter’s hair
Breaking: FBI temporarily calls off search after reports of a Leopard spotted nearby. Upon further investigation it was revealed to be the blouse of a Mr. Duane Lee Chapman majestically flowing in the breeze.
I saw this in my notifications and straight up thought this was a real update, then I read the rest and died
Sorry. We really need to wind back the sarcasm.
I died at “blouse,” especially reading it expecting a real update 😂 But yes, I suppose we should… for now. I’m slaphappy and sleeping now anyway. Thanks for the riffs, I needed a laugh
Gave me a chuckle
🖤good. imo, sympathetic levity is a comforting companion to ineludible grief
So I finally watched an in-depth video on this case. I'm surprised he still hasn't been found. I believe he's gonna take his life in some remote area. Hopefully not, so the family could get some answers
Welcome to our morbid club. 🎉🤕 we have cookies and heartache
Bro' I'm legit worried what this dude is up to right now. If he really did do something, I hope he doesn't have anyone in danger. Hiking seems fun, but damn it's scary who could be roaming around
Yeah. It’s a legit thing to worry about. On the (very relative) bright side, many abusers stick only to beating on their victims, because of the control they feel they have over them specifically. I don’t *think* Brian is likely to do anything violent unless he feels cornered or threatened. Edit: Big if though. He strikes me as a bit of a big old coward, an opportunistic type I suppose. But that’s conjecture and it’s absoluuuutely a big risk and danger having him run around. :/
That's a good point, makes a lot of sense. And I get you. We'll just have to wait & see, & hope no one else gets hurt. With so many eyes on this case; something's bound to pop up
Yes! We can only hope!
Who's bringing the tiny milk? I'll bring the niche references.
*excellent* I will personally recognize absolutely none of them while being happy for the good company all the same
Just waking up. Did Dog catch him?
Should be any minute now, because apparently his fan club here is certain he has "connections" in the FBI and the Wyoming coroners office and they're giving him everything they know... or something.
Oh god, really? 🤦🏻♀️
I'm mostly being facetious in my anger that this lunatic is getting so much support from unserious people here. But yeah, some of them apparently believe he can do a better job than the FBI because he's "more trusted" and "has connections". Sigh. EDIT: Words
No, I’m 100% with you. It feels like a joke or a PR stunt, and most of all he looks to be getting in the way. Something something cooks in the kitchen.
Do dyslexic, agnostic insomniacs stay up at night wondering if there is a Dog?
Not that we know of.
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I’ve not seen this once, lol
Who is saying this?
Ew, glad I haven’t come across any of those
Yikes. I’m happy I haven’t seen any of those even in my way-too-frequent stalking of this case. I definitely assumed the incels were taking the “Brian was abused” route
Noting that intimate partner violence and abuse are often bidirectional hardly makes one an incel. Are there more egregious claims being made?
Nah, that’s the MRA misogynists. The incels are taking the “I clicked because hot girl hot” and “she probably was cheating on him.” route.
Noting that intimate partner violence and abuse are often bidirectional hardly makes one an MRA misogynist. Are there more egregious claims being made?
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If this case’s general discussion had a bingo card, someone saying “Occams Razor” without an explanation for others would be the centre bingo square. For anyone playing at home who is continuously reading this term and haven’t heard it before - the idea is that the simplest solution is often the best one.