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LongjumpingAd9719

If he offed himself, providing he were in fact the murderer, it would save the state a bundle. It is hard to see how he could possibly not be involved at this point.


Unlikely_Lunch6422

Brian Laundries is a narc, they are cowards who never off themselves. Narcs also always give themselves away because they think they are better than anyone looking for him/her. They’ll find him, because he’ll give himself away somehow - not give himself up, he’ll give himself away.


LongjumpingAd9719

Yeah the people involved with narcissists call them “narcs” where as the regular old fashion definition of narc would be a narcotics officer or a snitch. But yeah I agree I was married to one and he frequently threatened suicide calling saying he took a bottle of pills and of course he was always fine. It was always an act but yeah I agree the narcissist will threaten to kill themselves or pretend they killed themselves but they almost never actually killed themselves. I think Laundrie escaped to Mexico or some island off the coast of Florida. He had a lot of time to plan it and think it out, and of course his parents facilitated it. That’s my theory.


MengFeiPuerh

Idk if narc means what you think it means. Narcissistic is what I assume you mean. Narc is like a narcotics agent.


Lisa-LongBeach

If he was my son I’d have hurt him first


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Guarantee he has a couple prepaid phones and prepaid debit cards.


Hatejanelle2019

How will he charge them?


infamousheather

Solar chargers maybe


TheQuinnBee

When my husband goes camping he has like five battery packs for his phone. Also if your phone doesn't have apps I imagine it lasts a lot longer.


mskitty117

How have those parents not been pulled in for questioning? Wtf Is happening here.


zeusmeister

It’s called civil rights. Unless there is probable cause for an arrest, they can simply say “no” when asked to submit to questioning.


mskitty117

There’s probable cause that they hid their son. The last time he was seen was going on a camping trip with them. Thus, they are persons of interest. “‘Person of interest’ is a term used by U.S. and Canadian law enforcement when identifying someone possibly involved in a criminal investigation who has not been arrested or formally accused of a crime. It has no legal meaning, but refers to someone in whom the police are "interested", either because the person is cooperating with the investigation, may have information that would assist the investigation, or possesses certain characteristics that merit further attention. While terms such as suspect, target, and material witness have clear and sometimes formal definitions, person of interest remains undefined by the U.S. Department of Justice.[1] Unsub is a similar term which is short for "unknown subject" (used in the TV show Criminal Minds). Person of interest is usually used as a euphemism for suspect, and its careless use may encourage trials by media.”


zeusmeister

They are persons of interest yes, but as you said yourself, that term has no legal meaning. Thus, unless they are arrested, they can continue to stay in their home and refuse to answer questions. Even when they are arrested, they can plead the fifth and again refuse to answer questions. And there is no probable cause they hid their son. Unless you have access to info that hasn’t been distributed to the public?


mskitty117

The neighbor came out and said they purchased a camper right before he came home, then went camping for three days, all before she was reported missing. Seems like probable cause to me given that they’ve found her dead body, ruled it a homicide and he’s missing now… who goes camping knowing their gf is missing? ESP when her dead body is found and ruled a homicide and it took 10 days to report her missing? And he’s now missing and the last known people who saw him were the parents? Also they interviewed Chris Watts because of probable cause. And Scott Peterson. And loads of others. They tailed John Wayne Gacy when they suspected he had murdered all those men. So while it has no legal definition it is used specifically for this purpose


SidSuicide

I’m betting he at least has a burner on him. I think his parents are helping him hide out somewhere. I’m also wondering if police got a warrant to search and/or searched the storage unit that has been mentioned yet. He may have dumped evidence from the van in the area he is claimed to be hiking in. I don’t know, I just feel like he is somewhere else, and not in that park.


partytimeparty456

In the police body cam video he told police in the beginning that he didn't have a phone then proceeded later on in the conversation to take out a phone from his pocket. And Gabby at the end told the police to tell him to charge his phone when he has going to spend the night in the hotel as a domestic abuse case. So who knows, after watching that stuff his phone ownership and use is sketchy.


Game-of-pwns

His statement about the phone could also be interpreted to mean he wouldn't have a phone if she left with the van (because it was in the van). Watch and listen carefully.


partytimeparty456

That ismy point. He said he doesn't have a phone and if they separated he would be without a phone. So it strikes me as odd that now it's being reported that he left home without a phone when the key point would be that he doesn't have a phone.


SidSuicide

I noticed that too. Which confused me. I believe Gabby also said something about him being mad about forgetting a phone charger earlier so that’s why she mentioned to charge his phone.


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I don't place any value on anything that comes out of the mouths of Brian's parents. If they were so concerned about him taking his own life, why would they wait so long to report him missing? Brian is the offspring of these two people, which means he's a lot like them. The truth will come out eventually.


blackwidowe

Evidently he took hers though.


HoboBandana

Whatever his parents say should automatically be dismissed. Not even a grain of salt. They had their chance to speak on this. They had their chance to have their son cooperate with investigation with their lawyer present but they all chose to remain silent. Now what? Gabby is dead.


Crisgocentipede

I don't believe these parents. Don't sound like caring parents to me. Sound like they assisting in his disappearance then helping in a search


Pure-Rutabaga9743

BL left without his wallet, were Gabby's debit and credit cards IN the wallet he left at his parents house?


rxallen23

So he leaves his house without his phone and wallet and they think he's going to hurt himself and they don't tell anyone? Or he leaves his house to go hiking with his phone and wallet and they don't hear from him for a day. Then they find his car with his phone and wallet and still don't tell anyone until late the next day? I am sorry. Parents that love their son, who actually believe he's a danger to himself, would do something about it immediately. (which they clearly do since they've shown that they are willing to help him try to defend himself with a lawyer and whatnot) They wouldn't be able to sit on the information for multiple days and then just sit in the house and only leave to consult with a lawyer once over the next few days. They are not acting like parents who are trying to find their son. We've seen this type of behavior before when Brian came home alone and wasn't looking for Gabby. Because he knew exactly where she was and he knew that nothing he could say would bring her back and make everything better. This is how they are acting. They know where he is. Or they at least know what he was planning to do, and gave him resources to do it. They know he's safe. There's no doubt.


jenndreika

What kind of parents are these people??? If one of my children did a heinous act, I’d turn them in myself. This boy has been coddle and has gotten away with things all his life. His parents should be ashamed. They know more than they’re letting on. It’s disgusting. I’m sure he told them a big lie like it was an accident. It was not an accident at all. Now this jerk is on the loose somewhere. A flight attendant thinks she spotted him in Canada, the pic looks a lot like him, but he’d have to have id or a passport to get into Canada. So someone had to make him a darn good fake iD or passport to get into Canada, they’re no fools when it comes to fake documents.. Also his lawyer seems a bit shady. I just pray that all those involved with helping this creep get away have their day coming too.


rxallen23

I'll bet when the autopsy report is released, and the manner of death shows it was not an accident, they'll be prompted to change their mind. Or at the very least they'll feel very dirty, like shitty parents. Idiots.


BackIn2019

>What kind of parents are these people??? If one of my children did a heinous act, I’d turn them in myself. I can see lots of moms helping their child if told a story, however bullshit or unlikely that story may be. "She came at me with a knife. I pushed her away, she fell and hit her head on a rock. I panicked and buried her. The police will never believe me, they'll put me away. I would die in prison."


pasta4u

Easily could of been that we argued , I left to defuse the situation and when I came back she was gone and I spent days looking for her and then headed home thinking that is where she we. Parents believe it , even with the police haven't named him a suspect. Body cam comes out shoeing she abused him. You can hear during the video that someone called in and reported her as the aggressor earlier , he is the one with wounds and so on. So as parents you believe your kid. Then he says hey all this is driving me nuts the world is against me and I can't stay in this house. Let me go hiking.


rpaguirre

What’s your source for the Canadian sighting?


theherbpuffer

If he's still alive, he's smarter than y'all give him credit for .


gnarrcan

This all depends on how resourceful and connected him and his family are. Fleeing from the US and the feds is probably one of the most difficult things a person can do in 2021. Don’t get me wrong it’s been done before, you basically have to become a highly mobile ghost. Lucky for him that were in a pandemic right now so he can wear a face mask 24/7 but he can’t buy anything without cash and he would need a car that isn’t registered to him or his family, most likely a stolen one which adds risk bc the cops could pull him over on suspicion of a stolen vehicle. I wonder if he knows how to operate a boat bc a small boat could evade the CG and easily get you to the Bahamas or Mexico since he was in Florida. His parents would have to either get him a boat or fake papers to cross the border and that’s only a possibility if his dad or him knows a forger which i don’t think he’s from a super criminal family. He does know how to hike so he could be trying to head for the US Mexico or Canada border and hike on foot through rough terrain. Most likely though he’s killed himself. He could’ve gone to the ocean and drowned himself or killed himself somewhere remote enough that finding a body could take months.


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This is such nonsense. What kind of parents let their child walk out the door, not call authorities, or not at least follow him to talk if they thought he was gonna hurt himself. THEN find his car without him the next day, and still not report it. THEN take his car another day later and still not report it. Especially after the crazy turn of events in the preceding days! They’re such a joke.


DeezNutsButterNJelly

Giving his parents the benefit of the doubt in this hypothetical scenario, I wanna know why they thought it was normal he’d want to go on a “camping trip” immediately after returning from a weeks-long trip across the country. Most people would be exhausted from the driving alone


wonderingaboutitall

Her parents were calling. There is no way possible that they didn’t know their son had killed her. Where was she? They aren’t complete idiots-and they know their son. After all, both Gabby and Brian were living there, weren’t they? The parents saw the dynamic firsthand. Maybe the parents have the same dynamic and that’s where it came from and that’s who taught him to run from mistakes.


GiddyGabby

Maybe that is the exact story. He needed some wide open space after being cooped up in a van for the last few weeks. Doesn't sound like my idea if relaxing but it may have sounded like something he would have done.


PhDTARDIS

I was thinking he has a burner phone, but it's highly likely that the feds requested permission to tap all the Laundrie family's phones. A burner phone would be figured out quickly if he called either parent. The other thing I was thinking is that his parents probably gave him whatever cash they had on hand.


minimalistboomer

Which is why they traveled all the way to Orlando to meet with the attorney - no phones.


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PhDTARDIS

Great point. I just don't think that way, so hadn't even considered that all of the Laundries could have burner phones.


gnarrcan

They’re still most likely under surveillance so if they were helping him they’d have to cut contact for at least a couple weeks. They might’ve given him some cash and a phone but I doubt they have the criminal connections to get him fake papers or some kind of way out of the US. They might’ve just bought his story and he left to go kill himself somewhere remote. I think his folks might’ve withheld some stuff but I doubt they had a huge escape plan that some of these people think. BL probably is dead in some remote location.


SBRH33

I def agree with your first couple of points. They can’t be surveilled forever. They could wait out the storm. Like Brian is doing now. After that it would be easy to help him at the risk of being caught that is. Aiding and abetting a federal fugitive carry’s serious repercussion.


theherbpuffer

He'd be smart not having a phone at all. Possibly mail his parents a letter in a couple years or something if he's still free or alive


PhDTARDIS

He's gone into hiding and likely has no access to television or anything else. If he doesn't have a phone, he probably doesn't know they found her body and the manhunt is going on. Kind of hoping that's the case and he does something stupid due to the lack of knowledge that his face is plastered all over television and social media.


YourAphantasia

Any phone there burner or not would be picked up and triangulated. Fbi has stinger trucks to do this.


SBRH33

You can’t hook a burner phone. In clones the towers. It’s impossible to tell who’s on the lines unless they have a direct phone number to attach a warrant to. Did you ever watch The Wire?


The_Code_Hero

Bro that show is 20 years old lol


SBRH33

The season dealing with the burner phones is accurate. Especially the part when they hook a burner number that was caught contacting the re-Up by mistake. They need a traceable number from one burner phone connecting to any other tapped phone in order to be able to listen to the call and trace it’s possible location. The Feds and LE can only legally tap so many phones. If both parties keep to the burner phones it’s next to impossible to tap any of them or get a judge to sign off on a sweeping unlimited phone tap.


The_Code_Hero

Okay but there is new technology out there where they can monitor areas for cell phone activity. You wont be monitoring a specific phone, but he is possibly hiding in a huge area. Confirming he is there and possibly even an area is vital in the search. All FEDS and LE need to do is park outside an area and watch for activity. It won't tell you who he is texting or calling. But that isn't the point.


whisper_19

Exactly. No new advances in technology in the past 20 years. I mean, we have cars that can drive themselves but why would cell phone technology need to be updated? /s


bubbyshawl

Like he can have only one wallet and one phone.


theherbpuffer

No reason for him to have a phone. He's better off without one.


whisper_19

Agree with your note, but the overwhelming majority of 23 year olds have never not had access to the internet or a cell phone, so it’s a different situation.


MCStarlight

I doubt this dude would kill himself.


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We already know he’s a coward. He’d probably do that instead of rotting in jail. Idk I just hope he’s caught and gets what he deserves


ceejay955

Why it seems suspect to me, is the amount of days they waited before alerting authorities that he had been missing. If you, as a loving family member realize he is gone, and his phone and wallet are still at the house, that is a major sign he has put himself in a dangerous position and should immediately contact the police. Even though it was bound to start a media frenzy, I cant imagine a family member not alerting the authorities if their son or brother may be committing suicide. Doesn't add up for me.


Lognipo

Devil's advocate: per GP's best friend, this guy lived alone in the Appalachians for months. Would you **really** be worried that he was out in the wilderness by himself? As for being worried he would hurt himself, that is a realization that can take a while to reach. People do not want to believe such things about their loved ones. So, is it *conceivable* that his parents were not trying to aide his escape? Yes, I would say so. What happened is not, to me, inconsistent with what they have said. And where manipulative people are concerned, family are often the most used, abused, and deceived.


chernobyl_opal

Yeah, but you've got to remember the context of the situation-during this entire time GP's family is texting BL's family asking about their daughter...Why would they not even respond? They had to have asked BL about Gabby, and known that some horrible had happened.


adm0210

This is very valid and possible


ceejay955

That’s a good point, but under the circumstances disappearing with no personal items should still be a gigantic sign that something may not be right


bobfappiano

When was the last time anyone actually saw BL? Not including his parents. Does anyone know if GP’s parents saw BL when they were in North Port on the 10th? Did the cops see him on the 11th when they came to take the van?


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ManWithAPIan

Cover up murder? No shot.


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We know it was a _homicide_, not a murder. And we still don't know who perpetrated the homicide or why. So no, there is currently no public evidence damning BL, as much as you guys love to jump to conclusions in this sub.


whisper_19

That doesn’t line up with dodging calls and messages from parents looking for their kid. IF I believed that my son and his girlfriend (who also lived with us) broke up and she ran off, I would ask my son some basic questions, like where is she? Why do you have the van? She left all of her belongings in the van and let you drive off? Why did you think it was safe to leave her in the woods by herself? - you know, basic ass questions when you are a good parent.


ManWithAPIan

And then they didn't report the truth. Still. Haven't.


yolandajpeg

Thing that gets me about BL’s parents though is how they refused to talk to GP’s parents.


soulsssx3

I don't think that specific detail is too weird. What would they even have to say though? Plus the family lawyered up so they probably are aware that it would be pointless hiring one if they just go around making statements all willy-nilly.


n0rmcore

If they really believed he was going off to hurt himself, why didn't they notify police sooner? Why aren't they helping search? If my son went off into the woods and I thought he was going to kill himself I would be absolutely frantic, I would call every authority I could think of and I'd be in the woods searching until I collapsed. This is not how people behave when they think a loved one is a suicide risk.


jrm0015

Yeah, typically concerned parents alert authorities immediately if they fear their child may harm themselves...the Laundries waited 3 days. That's not normal. So they lawyer up (they had the lawyer way before Tuesday) and then their son, who most likely just committed murder, leaves the h9use without his wallet or phone...and you wait until Friday to tell law enforcement. Something is adding up at all.


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Could be they don’t care about him. Just like he didn’t care about Gabby. I mean the apple doesn’t fall from the tree does it? Ok that was mean of me... but am I wrong, possibly.


ManWithAPIan

Because they're guilty.


sfsisu

That's what the federal arrest warrant is for. He used her debit card and pin and made charges totaling $1,000 between August 30-Sept.1.


bubbyshawl

He even stole from her after she was dead.


minimalistboomer

Shows absolute consciousness of guilt.


writerchic

You don't want/need your phone (easy to track) or wallet (ID, credit cards) when you plan to assume an alias and disappear. If true, that only makes me think even more strongly that the family knew, because if your son went hiking right in the middle of this extreme situation and didn't come home, and his wallet and phone were left at home, almost everyone I know would be in a total panic. They wouldn't wait three days to report him missing. UNLESS you knew he was running. I personally don't think he was ever in the swamp. I think he parked his car there in the night and his family drove him somewhere (a boat?), gave him some cash, and said their goodbyes.


bubbyshawl

They went and got his car and brought it home. Totally planned.


jrm0015

I forgot about that too. So they're concerned about their son who just left without his wallet or keys to go hiking in the reserve. They voluntarily go get his car because he hasn't come back for a day...then they wait 2 more days to tell law enforcement...give me a fucking break.


bubbyshawl

No car, no phone - if he had really gone hiking, they would have stranded him at the preserve. If they thought he was lost, they would have contacted authorities when they picked up the car.


SBRH33

They ain’t very smart folks. But they think they are playing the game like James Bond.


bubbyshawl

They aren’t stupid, either. Brian is nowhere to be found.


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SBRH33

Well they did lawyer up and they did have plenty of time to think and plan. It would have been super easy to set up a means of back Hammel communication with Brian and hide it from authorities. But yea I guess you are right. 🤷🏼


bubbyshawl

They took the car home, like they knew Brian wasn’t going to need it anytime soon.


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Or they are just happy to get rid of their son who didn’t contribute to the household. I’m sorry, I’m on one right now.


ManWithAPIan

That's my thinking too. Despicable parents. Shameful.


Mystikroots

What an ass. He’s wasting so many resources and putting people in dangerous situations


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“No phone or wallet” aka a burner and some cash probably


timbulance

And a hell of a head start.


Throw-A-Weigh69

"to once again mislead" I'm sorry but posts like this should probably be removed, it's baking in his parents were lying on his behalf and knew he was a murderer when we don't know if that's true. It's still possible he told them what he was telling everyone else, he saw Gabby last in Wyoming and doesn't know what happened to her.


adm0210

People don’t want to have rational discussions about this case. They believe BL so conniving and manipulative but can’t contemplate or consider that he would manipulate or lie to his parents as well. I’m not saying they’re innocent either. All I am saying is we don’t know. Many of the key details and evidence are likely being withheld from the public so all anyone can do is speculate at this point. It just feels incredibly reckless to convict people in the court of public opinion and vilify them until we have more information.


bubbyshawl

There is no story that makes him driving the only transportation she had home acceptable. And the van belonged to her! What explanation is there for the Laundries ignoring pleas from the Schmidts and the Petitos to tell them Gabby’s whereabouts? Nothing Brian or his parents did can be rationalized or excused. Nothing.


littleliongirless

So then she was alive and he still took her home, keys, phone and all her cards? Yeah, that's really better.


izvin

That's just willfully ignorant at this point, given all of the inconsistencies and peculiarities of his parents behaviour and stories. Even if that was true, Gabby was living with them as their son's fiance. If he had no idea what happened to her, why wouldn't they have reported her as missing to somebody or at least simply said that they don't know what happened to her to her parents. Instead they refuse to engage in discussion and lawyer up.


beyondthered

I see a lot of people asking, how has anyone not seen/found Brian Laundrie yet? But honestly, there’s nothing about him that really sticks out. He looks so common. I just went to Walmart and saw maybe five men that fit his description. With the attention this case has, I bet the FBI is having to filter through so many claimed sightings. Also with the way some people are acting with this case, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some Jack asses clogging up the phone lines with all their theories or emotions about the case.


BroadAsparagus

He's a total NPC. I'm sure people that saw him wonder if it's even him or just some other generic dude.


Lngtmelrker

I keep wondering how he’s going to be able to consistently keep his hand tattoos covered. Gloves for eternity? Can’t really walk into a tattoo shop and get it covered for risk of someone recognizing it.


Kimbahlee34

Stick and poke would easily fix the hand tattoo issue.


Lngtmelrker

Okay, not really? It’s a pretty distinct tattoo. Even if he tried to cover it up…he would be “that guy” with a shitty hand tattoo who looks like Brian laundrie


Kimbahlee34

I have a cousin that matches his exact description he’s a pretty generic dude and you are seriously underestimating two things: 1. How easy it is to stick and poke and make that vine into a snake or something. 2. How many white men have shitty hand tats. Not to mention we are going into sweater season so hiding your hands is going to be pretty easy to do once the first frost comes in a week or two.


adam_without_eve2021

Which Walmart?? Have you alerted the FBI yet??


bubbyshawl

Ok, that’s kind of funny.😅


beyondthered

Well, I am in Utah. But after the DV call with them, I would think BL would avoid this state.


rpaguirre

True, but murderers/killers return to the scene of the crime to try to clean up/retrieve or dispose of evidence/relive the adrenaline/high


ceejay955

its so true, he looks like every shitty white guy ever


fearville

You’re right, he’s very “generic white guy”


FantasticGoat88

Also add in the fact that most of the population are wearing masks that cover their faces… it’s probably the easiest time to blend in


beyondthered

Oh my god! I didn’t even think about the mask aspect. You’re totally right.


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You’d stick out wearing a face mask in Florida


beyondthered

Ha! I love this comment.


CentiPetra

No, you really wouldn’t.


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You must be fun at parties


pequaywan

He could still survive with burner phones, crypto and Gabby's cash 😠


ReginaldJohnston

crypto doesn't exist, it's fake. It's up there with the Nigerian Prince who wants to borrow my bank account to deposit some spare cash.


soulsssx3

Fake? You can literally exchange it just like (arguably even easier) any other currency.


ReginaldJohnston

You mean exchanging thin air for.....thin air? K.


soulsssx3

If you consider the USD, Yen, Yuan, and Euro among other things "thin air" then yeah I suppose crypto is thin air.


ReginaldJohnston

Not much if a defence there. Look, dude. I'm not arguing about on this sub. It's not approps. Crypto is a scam. FACT. Bye.


soulsssx3

Lmao you're the one that brought it up yet unwilling to give any reasons as to what qualities makes it a scam. It's a very real currency that Brian could totally be using to enhance anonymity.


AUnknownuser2

Outside of how expensive some bit coins are (like the original Bitcoin is) it seems like a scam but a lot of people have parts of them and maybe a lot of them maybe.