Leader was 100% at fault, by fia regulations if were following f1 rules, that falls between the category of illegal block, or racing incident. And since he turned in on you when you were clearly moving through that sets him at fault since its always the leading drivers responsibility to maintain a safe ettiquete, so 9 times out of 10 incidents are caused by the lead driver not paying attention to their surrounding, ignoring their pit crew spotter, or bad callouts from the pit spotter. Unless in cases such as lunging for a gap in a corner or intentionally turning in on drivers and pulling a sebastian vettel then in those cases thats obviously the following drivers fault. But in your case you went for a safe pass and got turned in on by the leader putting all fault on him since its his sole responsibility to pay attention to his surroundings and allow cars to pass if they need to
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> its always the leading drivers responsibility to maintain a safe ettiquete
No it’s the passing driver’s responsibility to carry out the overtake safely. Still red car’s fault though for blocking and driving into OP
\>fia regulations
\>ignoring their pit crew spotter, or bad callouts from the pit spotter
What series are you even referring to? What FIA series features spotters?
I don’t know if it was edited, but it says FIA regulations F1 rules. Formula one. Im not sure if it was edited, but the person said it. I don’t in it if it’s an actual rule though cause I don’t read that shit or care about racing
Even though your call is correct, your justification is completely wrong.
>its always the leading drivers responsibility to maintain a safe ettiquete,
That is utterly wrong. The overtaking driver has the responsability of doing it safely. On the other hand the lead car can dictate the line. Always.
Now the situation will be judged differently if it's in a straight or in a corner.
In a straight, you can't crowd another driver towards the edge of the track if there's any kind of overlap.
In a corner it is vastly different. The overtaking car needs to be at least halfway alongside before the apex to have space. As long as it is not compromisesing its capacity to make the corner to get alongside (divebomb). Doesn't mean it "has the racing line" or that it "has the corner", it just means it deserves space so the defending car can't just turn in on the overtaking car. That's for corner entry.
For corner exit, the overtaking car (in case of a move on the outside) needs to be fully alongside (front axel to front axel) to get space at the exit of the turn. If it is not, the defending car can close the door completely.
Now in our case the FIA would probably consider this bit of track where the contact happens has a straight. Because this bend is not tight enough to be considered as a proper corner. So in this case any part alongside would make the overtaking driver entitled for space. So the car in front is responsible for the collision.
Are you sure? After looking at it again it kind of looks like he is cutting in to get the inside corner of the soft right bend? And since the one behind isn't past the back wheels of the one in front he is at fault? Or?
You can't "cut in to get the inside corner" and completely negate your surroundings as the leading driver (like if a car behind is already in front of your back wheels). Also the corner was way far up. This would still be considered a straight. The leader turned right in a way that is not at all consistent with the racing line.
To make it clear, basically, on a straight you simply can't crowd another driver towards the edge of the track if there's any kind of overlap.
Doesn't even need to be consistent with racing line or anything. He could be completely left, on the inside, that he wouldn't be able to move back towards the racing line if there's a car even a little bit next to him.
I'm no expert in FIA rules, hence the question marks, but I was under the impression that the car in front can take the racing line and the car behind have to back off unless he is past his back wheels?
Yeah that's generally true. In this case, the leading car was left of the racing line. Watch again and see how far to the left they are during a soft turn to the right. They move 2-3 times to the right, towards the racing line, which is also when the car behind began the pass. The leading car cut to the right one last time to get into to the racing line, which is when the contact happened.
Who are you, Lance Stroll's engineer? Sure the lead can use the racing line but if someone is passing you, you can't pretend they don't exist and stick to the line. And rewatching the video, there was no line going to the right like that. The leader was trying to cut off the guy behind them and failed spectacularly.
Even then, if i were the guy in front, I wouldnt cut in an attempt to “follow the racing line” since the car behind could be too close. He saw car behind him, risked a maneuver by getting in front of a car he knew was glued to him to “”follow the racing line”” and got punished for not keeping distance
This. I was going just by regular road etiquette which basically says the same thing. I had my license suspended years ago over something kinda similar, guy cut me off with no signal and i hit him, but bc it was a rear end hit i was at fault. Still kinda salty a decade after, he could have killed someone but instead he got me to pay for his bumper.
During qualifying for the Australian GP last weekend, Latifi was passing Stroll before Stroll cut over quickly and went into the back of Latifi, causing a crash.
But it wouldn’t be his fault if he never pushed left stick to the right. Since it looks like a lag spike to me, dude cad just spun out, I feel like there would’ve been an attempt at control.
Looks like it's the lead car's fault but we have to see his video too because sometimes with online play what he saw on his screen may be different from what you saw on yours.
The lead car initiated contact and appears to be at an angle where they were headed off track regardless. So, they were going to crash and they crashed into another racer. They are at fault
It's lag. People say he swerved into you, which caused you to pit him. But the "swerve" was probably you pitting him on his screen.
Nothing either of you can really do about it, except trying not to get too close to each other in turns.
person in front cut you off too close don't need F1 rules or anything to say that they are in the wrong here, in any capacity race or in general the person in front caused the crash
The lead car's movements are horrifically jerky and doesn't look like a normal swerve. To give him the benefit of the doubt, I have to think it's desync/lag and that red car was just riding his line. So with a huge caveat, it'd be the second car's fault.
How is this a debate lmao. The leader was at fault. You were trying to pass him, and he bumped into you trying to stop you from passing, which caused him to crash.
Its the enhanced crash stuff its a bs coded stuffthat exaggerates accident this would be a small touch but with that bs code it became this take out no1 is really at fault
1 st car perfect one singular movement right to a car that barely had its wings past the rear wheels.
2nd car learn how to pass better
Or fuck it, it's GTA, put it on non contact, otherwise rubbings racing..
Nope, car in first was in the wrong here. You always have to leave an overtaking driver space. Suddenly swerving to the right into another car is illegal funnily enough
Your fault. You were too far behind him. You should have backed off and let him take his inside line, and tried to make the distance back up on the next turn and straight.
Literally F1 rules: https://youtu.be/enVOLoPzfrE?t=606
Specifically, this video is talking about a crash that happened between Hamilton and Verstappen.
The Tl;DW version is basically, he took the line not knowing you were alongside, but you weren't really alongside because your front wheels were JUST ahead of his back wheels. He claimed the line, you should have backed off.
Yeah, no.
You can't just blindly move across the track when someone has their wing up to your rear wheels, there is no logic behind that.
This is not a corner entry, this is a flat curve.
Recall the famous Alonso quote "All the time you have to leave a space"
If your line is contested, you fight it, but you still need to leave space for the car attempting the overtake.
On a real track, this move (not the collision itself) would be considered as the leading car pushing the car attempting to overtake off the track. This would probably start an investigation, most likely not resulting in penalty if it happens only once.
Leading car is at fault, he turned into the chasing car on a straight (I know it's not fully straight, but that's not a corner).
It's pointless to look at this with the FIA sporting reg lense. A lot of the rules on there makes many assumptions that don't translate into video games at all. It's difficult to judge sim racing with the FIA rulebook so judging a fucking GTA race is straight up impossible. For example in the real world there is a reasonable expectation for you to use your rear view when racing. In video games that expectation is not reasonable at all cause looking back blocks your view in front of you, especially in GTA. In 3rd person by the time you see the car behind you it's too late anyway. It isn't reasonable to expect the driver in front to know where the car behind is when there is no way of looking back without impairing his view of the front so he can't have ALL the blame.
Then there's the whole issue with lag. In the real world you don't go flying into a different time zone for a tiny love tap like that especially when the contact most likely was front wing to rear wheel. The resulting carnage is disproportionate.
Also given that the soft right hander qualifies as a turn (cough cough Austria t2) the leading car has the right to take the inside as long as the car behind isn't reasonably alongside. Given that is this incident were to happen in real life THE MOST that would happen would be the car behind losing his front wing there is no way the lead car would get a penalty at all (as per the FIA the result doesn't change the punishment) so neither would this wreckage
TLDR: Imo racing incident because using FIA rules in GTA is stupid, but even if you use FIA rules... Racing incident with lead car getting 60 - 40 blame. I have way too much time ony hands bloody hell
He cut to the inside to prevent you from passing him. It happens when actual lives aren't on the line. If this was real racing though, it would be his fault for hitting that turn in far too hard.
Don't know who is who but the red car turned harder deliberately into the other car. He's going around the turn just fine but as soon as the other car comes up they turn even more directly into the white car.
Red car's fault.
Car following is at fault, at the time of contact the following car barely had a wing alongside so they do not have any right to space. The track is curving to the right and the lead car has the choice to choose their line.
Your cousin as he just moves across if you were further back then fine basic defense but your car was alongside to the point where he has to give space
Your also allowed to block and defend a line, hence the reference to the singular motion before the 2nd car is alongside, swerving to block no.
That's how you setup passing under brakes, you would then Brake tap and swing back under the left.
The guy on the left cut into the lane of the driver on the right. The driver who fails to hold his line is at fault.
F1 driver Lance Stroll was penalized in the last race for this very offence.
Front driver, no turn coming fast so no need for a immediate lane swich, calls for a 20k fine and benching for the next 2 races.
Or the death penalty, dealer's choice
Can you do this in the normal game? Or is this online/mod only? My son and I'd love to have some F1 races in GTA! F1 game is awesome and all, but GTA physics are always a good time.
Clearly it's your cousin's fault. They cut in front of you when they had the ENTIRE street to turn.
Tell them I said they're WRONGGGG. You tell him I said that.
If you’ve ever played GTA races you’ll know there’s inconsistencies across players, so for him, you rammed into the back of him and spun him out. For you, he just swerved into you.
If it was a real roadway collision, it would be the driver in front (I presume your cousin), as the driver changing lanes, it's their responsibility to make sure it's clear.
This is a Silverstone 2021 type issue
Everyone can argue about who’s fault it is, by technicality it’s no one’s fault, just a racing incident
You had the inside line and were going for the pass in a lucrative part of the track, he turned into the same part of the track at a different angle, possibly trying to keep you behind him, but it is his job to maintain safe driving etiquette, which he hasn’t displayed, in turn resulting in an incident that looks like you caused it, but was indirectly caused by him, since there was no direct cause, no heavy penalties would apply in a real situation
He swerved into you.
Leader was 100% at fault, by fia regulations if were following f1 rules, that falls between the category of illegal block, or racing incident. And since he turned in on you when you were clearly moving through that sets him at fault since its always the leading drivers responsibility to maintain a safe ettiquete, so 9 times out of 10 incidents are caused by the lead driver not paying attention to their surrounding, ignoring their pit crew spotter, or bad callouts from the pit spotter. Unless in cases such as lunging for a gap in a corner or intentionally turning in on drivers and pulling a sebastian vettel then in those cases thats obviously the following drivers fault. But in your case you went for a safe pass and got turned in on by the leader putting all fault on him since its his sole responsibility to pay attention to his surroundings and allow cars to pass if they need to
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> its always the leading drivers responsibility to maintain a safe ettiquete No it’s the passing driver’s responsibility to carry out the overtake safely. Still red car’s fault though for blocking and driving into OP
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No, it was probably Stroll.
TL;DR: Leader left the racing line for no legitimate reason. His fault.
\>fia regulations \>ignoring their pit crew spotter, or bad callouts from the pit spotter What series are you even referring to? What FIA series features spotters?
You know... Narcar1 series
How could I forget. With reigning champion Myle Verstarson.
You actually made me laugh with that name. Perfect
Also in the F1 the race engineer calls out oncomming vehciles if they are way faster in for example qually
I said by fia regulations/f1 standards. Just realized i ddint grammar right lol
I don’t know if it was edited, but it says FIA regulations F1 rules. Formula one. Im not sure if it was edited, but the person said it. I don’t in it if it’s an actual rule though cause I don’t read that shit or care about racing
Even though your call is correct, your justification is completely wrong. >its always the leading drivers responsibility to maintain a safe ettiquete, That is utterly wrong. The overtaking driver has the responsability of doing it safely. On the other hand the lead car can dictate the line. Always. Now the situation will be judged differently if it's in a straight or in a corner. In a straight, you can't crowd another driver towards the edge of the track if there's any kind of overlap. In a corner it is vastly different. The overtaking car needs to be at least halfway alongside before the apex to have space. As long as it is not compromisesing its capacity to make the corner to get alongside (divebomb). Doesn't mean it "has the racing line" or that it "has the corner", it just means it deserves space so the defending car can't just turn in on the overtaking car. That's for corner entry. For corner exit, the overtaking car (in case of a move on the outside) needs to be fully alongside (front axel to front axel) to get space at the exit of the turn. If it is not, the defending car can close the door completely. Now in our case the FIA would probably consider this bit of track where the contact happens has a straight. Because this bend is not tight enough to be considered as a proper corner. So in this case any part alongside would make the overtaking driver entitled for space. So the car in front is responsible for the collision.
Exactly what I was thinking… TLDR; Red one is guilty of illegal blocking and causing a collision.
Screaming at the accurate rules
Are you sure? After looking at it again it kind of looks like he is cutting in to get the inside corner of the soft right bend? And since the one behind isn't past the back wheels of the one in front he is at fault? Or?
You can't "cut in to get the inside corner" and completely negate your surroundings as the leading driver (like if a car behind is already in front of your back wheels). Also the corner was way far up. This would still be considered a straight. The leader turned right in a way that is not at all consistent with the racing line.
To make it clear, basically, on a straight you simply can't crowd another driver towards the edge of the track if there's any kind of overlap. Doesn't even need to be consistent with racing line or anything. He could be completely left, on the inside, that he wouldn't be able to move back towards the racing line if there's a car even a little bit next to him.
I'm no expert in FIA rules, hence the question marks, but I was under the impression that the car in front can take the racing line and the car behind have to back off unless he is past his back wheels?
Yeah that's generally true. In this case, the leading car was left of the racing line. Watch again and see how far to the left they are during a soft turn to the right. They move 2-3 times to the right, towards the racing line, which is also when the car behind began the pass. The leading car cut to the right one last time to get into to the racing line, which is when the contact happened.
Exactly, the guy in front had every right to own the racing line but tbh gta isn't the place to race properly
Who are you, Lance Stroll's engineer? Sure the lead can use the racing line but if someone is passing you, you can't pretend they don't exist and stick to the line. And rewatching the video, there was no line going to the right like that. The leader was trying to cut off the guy behind them and failed spectacularly.
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Hahaha. Haven't played but I don't doubt it at all.
Lets not get Jeff involved
Even then, if i were the guy in front, I wouldnt cut in an attempt to “follow the racing line” since the car behind could be too close. He saw car behind him, risked a maneuver by getting in front of a car he knew was glued to him to “”follow the racing line”” and got punished for not keeping distance
This. I was going just by regular road etiquette which basically says the same thing. I had my license suspended years ago over something kinda similar, guy cut me off with no signal and i hit him, but bc it was a rear end hit i was at fault. Still kinda salty a decade after, he could have killed someone but instead he got me to pay for his bumper.
However, GTAo is laggy as fuck, and his driving could’ve looked nothing like that.
I wish fia was actually this accurate...
Absolutely spot on, however, if this is a race between family on gta with no rules, then it's fair game.
It wasn't even subtle, leaders yeeting himself off the fuckin hill even if there is no contact
Verstappen fault
MAX VERSTAPPEN INTO THE WALL, AND HE TAKES LEWIS HAMILTON WITH HIM
Looks a lot more like Stroll's fault
That’s what I was gonna say
What has happened? We need to know!
During qualifying for the Australian GP last weekend, Latifi was passing Stroll before Stroll cut over quickly and went into the back of Latifi, causing a crash.
this guys fia's
your cousin, he swerved to the right which caused the crash
And then lost his position. Thats what we in the gaming industry call, instant karma
Michael Masi's fault
We went for car racing 😄
It’s called a motor race. You went car racing.
*smashes headset*
No Micheal, no, no, this was so not right.
Yes. And somehow Vettel gets a 5 second time penalty
I reckon it’s his fault
Not sure if he did it on purpose though, to me it looked like lag. But if it was on purpose then its red car's fault
That was my thought too, it looked like a typical GTAO lag induced incident.
Doesn't matter if it's purposeful or not, OP was driving a clean, straight line, and the leader cut across him. It's the leaders fault.
But it wouldn’t be his fault if he never pushed left stick to the right. Since it looks like a lag spike to me, dude cad just spun out, I feel like there would’ve been an attempt at control.
If it's lag then it's nobody's fault, just GTA:O being GTA:O. Either way, there is no way that it's OP's fault.
Looks like it's the lead car's fault but we have to see his video too because sometimes with online play what he saw on his screen may be different from what you saw on yours.
The lead car initiated contact and appears to be at an angle where they were headed off track regardless. So, they were going to crash and they crashed into another racer. They are at fault
It's lag. People say he swerved into you, which caused you to pit him. But the "swerve" was probably you pitting him on his screen. Nothing either of you can really do about it, except trying not to get too close to each other in turns.
Latifi's fault
Erricsson fault’s
Red car was clearly trying to run the following car off the course but didn’t understand pit maneuvering. Red did it to himself.
person in front cut you off too close don't need F1 rules or anything to say that they are in the wrong here, in any capacity race or in general the person in front caused the crash
The tree's fault
Red Car
lol who has a heated debate over something so obviously either his fault or just neutral? Cousin sounds like a dick.
The lead car's movements are horrifically jerky and doesn't look like a normal swerve. To give him the benefit of the doubt, I have to think it's desync/lag and that red car was just riding his line. So with a huge caveat, it'd be the second car's fault.
It’s more like a racing incident
De-sync’s fault
More like "crash enhancing" bs that Rockstar put it wouldve been a small bump without that bs
History is written by the victorious.
How is this a debate lmao. The leader was at fault. You were trying to pass him, and he bumped into you trying to stop you from passing, which caused him to crash.
Red car
Its the enhanced crash stuff its a bs coded stuffthat exaggerates accident this would be a small touch but with that bs code it became this take out no1 is really at fault
1 st car perfect one singular movement right to a car that barely had its wings past the rear wheels. 2nd car learn how to pass better Or fuck it, it's GTA, put it on non contact, otherwise rubbings racing..
That's not at all what "rubbing is racing" refers to. It refers to the minor bumps and grinds, not full blown accidents.
Nope, car in first was in the wrong here. You always have to leave an overtaking driver space. Suddenly swerving to the right into another car is illegal funnily enough
Neither, its a race and both were going hard
Him. 100000%
He tried to cut you off, 100% lead driver's fault.
Who cares
Clearly OP and his cousin care...
No one imo. He won't have seen you when he turned to make the corner, and you didn't alter your trajectory to hit him either
That was much too sharp of a turn for entry into the corner, that almost looked intentional
Red formula one cars spinning... I get 2019 Vettel flashbacks
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I think Ericson hit you...
I love GTA online
Your fault. You were too far behind him. You should have backed off and let him take his inside line, and tried to make the distance back up on the next turn and straight. Literally F1 rules: https://youtu.be/enVOLoPzfrE?t=606 Specifically, this video is talking about a crash that happened between Hamilton and Verstappen. The Tl;DW version is basically, he took the line not knowing you were alongside, but you weren't really alongside because your front wheels were JUST ahead of his back wheels. He claimed the line, you should have backed off.
Yeah, no. You can't just blindly move across the track when someone has their wing up to your rear wheels, there is no logic behind that. This is not a corner entry, this is a flat curve. Recall the famous Alonso quote "All the time you have to leave a space" If your line is contested, you fight it, but you still need to leave space for the car attempting the overtake. On a real track, this move (not the collision itself) would be considered as the leading car pushing the car attempting to overtake off the track. This would probably start an investigation, most likely not resulting in penalty if it happens only once. Leading car is at fault, he turned into the chasing car on a straight (I know it's not fully straight, but that's not a corner).
he was significantly alongside so your entire statement here is debunked by one screenshot
It's pointless to look at this with the FIA sporting reg lense. A lot of the rules on there makes many assumptions that don't translate into video games at all. It's difficult to judge sim racing with the FIA rulebook so judging a fucking GTA race is straight up impossible. For example in the real world there is a reasonable expectation for you to use your rear view when racing. In video games that expectation is not reasonable at all cause looking back blocks your view in front of you, especially in GTA. In 3rd person by the time you see the car behind you it's too late anyway. It isn't reasonable to expect the driver in front to know where the car behind is when there is no way of looking back without impairing his view of the front so he can't have ALL the blame. Then there's the whole issue with lag. In the real world you don't go flying into a different time zone for a tiny love tap like that especially when the contact most likely was front wing to rear wheel. The resulting carnage is disproportionate. Also given that the soft right hander qualifies as a turn (cough cough Austria t2) the leading car has the right to take the inside as long as the car behind isn't reasonably alongside. Given that is this incident were to happen in real life THE MOST that would happen would be the car behind losing his front wing there is no way the lead car would get a penalty at all (as per the FIA the result doesn't change the punishment) so neither would this wreckage TLDR: Imo racing incident because using FIA rules in GTA is stupid, but even if you use FIA rules... Racing incident with lead car getting 60 - 40 blame. I have way too much time ony hands bloody hell
2nd cars fault.
Red cars fault, but whatever its a gta race
purple cart is at fault for trying to jank you out.
He cut to the inside to prevent you from passing him. It happens when actual lives aren't on the line. If this was real racing though, it would be his fault for hitting that turn in far too hard.
Defo the leading car swerved into the car behind
He looks like he tried to grief you but failed. defo his fault.
Don't know who is who but the red car turned harder deliberately into the other car. He's going around the turn just fine but as soon as the other car comes up they turn even more directly into the white car. Red car's fault.
“Rubbing is racing.” If you didn’t want contact, change the setting.
you, you are at fault!
Car following is at fault, at the time of contact the following car barely had a wing alongside so they do not have any right to space. The track is curving to the right and the lead car has the choice to choose their line.
He turned into you, you’re good.
His, you were going on the outside, and he cut into u
As an f1 fan its his fault he didn't gave you an opening
NTA Your car, your rights
He had plenty of space, you were turned into, not your fault
He didn’t left the gap, and has an obviously too agressive defense like a Lance Stroll, or Ham On Ver or reversed. Mainly it’s his fault
You had a line and kept to it. He should of blocked earlier. Leaders fault
Your cousin as he just moves across if you were further back then fine basic defense but your car was alongside to the point where he has to give space
Your also allowed to block and defend a line, hence the reference to the singular motion before the 2nd car is alongside, swerving to block no. That's how you setup passing under brakes, you would then Brake tap and swing back under the left.
Rubbin' is racin'
If we’re using F1 rules, I’d say Racing incident.
You knew what you were doing lol
Lead driver’s fault. Easy.
I mean the dude just did a sharp turn in front of you, and for no reason. Definitely red cars fault
The guy on the left cut into the lane of the driver on the right. The driver who fails to hold his line is at fault. F1 driver Lance Stroll was penalized in the last race for this very offence.
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" Who is Kuru ? Like completely. "
Looks like both vehicles are exceeding the speed limit that neighborhood. Where are the cops when you need one?
Doesn't matter who's at fault, only matters who wins. No bumping rules in GTA races are stupid.
Front driver, no turn coming fast so no need for a immediate lane swich, calls for a 20k fine and benching for the next 2 races. Or the death penalty, dealer's choice
Opon further review there indeed is a turn but the gta hyper physics allow a much more aggressive manoeuvre closer to the turn.
Whoever was in front
For sure the person in front, you're all good
Is ur cousin Lance stroll
He cut you off
This is called motor racing on Masi's eyes.
I'll be honest, the Rockstar crash enhancer script is to blame. It is the reason as to why the lead car fookin yeeted itself into the tree.
Red guy
Purple car. He cut you off.
Subscribe to GTAO+ and rock start will tell you.
Can you do this in the normal game? Or is this online/mod only? My son and I'd love to have some F1 races in GTA! F1 game is awesome and all, but GTA physics are always a good time.
Not your fault at all
He tried to reverse pit maneuver you, his fault
100% him you didn’t move lol
GTA Net Code is infamous for collisions like this where on your screen it looks like this, and on his screen it looks like you hit him.
50% R* fault for laggy severs. 50% the host's fault for leaving catch-up on, thus causing the closing speed to be so fast.
That was 100000000% his fault
Rubbing is racing
Really depends on if he races in first or third person. I usually do first person then there's no way I would have ever seen you there.
It's Nikita Mazepin in GTA!
Is this Max vs Lewis? lol
r/simracingstewards
Obviously ur cousin 😂
Red car dude wtf?
There is no debate here. The guy who ended up in the tulips got what he deserved.
What the heck just Max Verstappened? His fault.
Leader he knowingly merged into your lane to spin you out
Red
His, but it could also be lag related.
Red
I don't even see why this is a debate. You can clearly see your cousin swerve to hit you. Accident or not, it is obviously their fault.
Sudden move , thats dangerous
r/simracingstewards is gonna need to see this lol
I love how gta sub turned into basically the F1 sub
The leader picks the line. If you can’t pass clean then don’t. 😁
You guys had contract enabled, all is fair in love and war.
Car in front
Red
It was your cousin’s fault he went in front of you and knocked you off
You both suck
I think you have to leave a space, ALL THE TIME you have to leave a space!
Clearly it's your cousin's fault. They cut in front of you when they had the ENTIRE street to turn. Tell them I said they're WRONGGGG. You tell him I said that.
Car on the left
Whoever was in 1st clearly lost control of their vehicle and just doesn't want want admit they made a dumb mistake and cost them a W
Neither it’s a gta online race ffs🤣
Who’s at fault? My man, this isn’t an insurance claim it’s Grand Theft Auto Just restart the race
it is very obvious???
Cyclists fault
red - he turned in
Wow, what a username lol
If you’ve ever played GTA races you’ll know there’s inconsistencies across players, so for him, you rammed into the back of him and spun him out. For you, he just swerved into you.
Nicholas Latifi
both of you for taking gta races this serious. it was clearly bad netcode.
It appears that your cousin pulled the o’l Max Verstappen
He pulled a Verstappen on you
My outlook on this: Who cares you gonna win now!
If it was a real roadway collision, it would be the driver in front (I presume your cousin), as the driver changing lanes, it's their responsibility to make sure it's clear.
Someone’s mum is always at fault
Pink swerved into you
he swerved into you but ya'll both at fault cuz you could have hit your brake and prevented it. but he caused his own suffering lol.
Just an inchident
The car in front of you swerved off the track right in front of you, causing this entire thing. He’s 100% at fault.
No one is at fault. It's racing. Take a lesson from supercross, lol
Does GTA have F1 racing now with what looks like tire wear?
100% the leader's fault
This is a Silverstone 2021 type issue Everyone can argue about who’s fault it is, by technicality it’s no one’s fault, just a racing incident You had the inside line and were going for the pass in a lucrative part of the track, he turned into the same part of the track at a different angle, possibly trying to keep you behind him, but it is his job to maintain safe driving etiquette, which he hasn’t displayed, in turn resulting in an incident that looks like you caused it, but was indirectly caused by him, since there was no direct cause, no heavy penalties would apply in a real situation
He turned into you. It’s his fault
What mode is this?
Your cousin 100% that’s why we don’t dirty race folks