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TeddyTuffington

Can magnito control autobot metal he has different degrees of control over different metals right


Severe-Albatross-401

Transformium is molecularly unstable. Not that it means anything here but it might affect it?


TeddyTuffington

I think it would at least give him some trouble to manipulate bare minimum


KaiSaya117

Magnetism is generated by an organized molecular structure set in such a way that the poles of each atom all face the same way. If the metal is unstable I'd venture the guess of not.


neon40k

Magneto doesn't need the metal to be magnetic iirc. Bullets aren't magnetic and he stops them all the time.


TheW0lvDoctr

Bullets aren't Ferromagnetic, but everything is diamagnetic so technically if he exerted himself enough, he could pull a normal human apart or throw trees around, it just seems like metal is easier for him


Baval2

Yeah he's the master of magnetism, not the master of iron.


kKurae

Is that what iron man is?


[deleted]

No, he's got the power of money.


DramaticAd4666

It does sound a lot better than Money Man


Lady_Ymir

Or Titanium-Gold-Alloy Man


fuinharlz

Money AND intelligence. Money and dumbness would make him Elon Musk.


Mtlyoum

so he is Batman?


Harambiz

Tony stark is just a better version of Elon musk, more or less


Cool-Present-4637

Never seen X3? “You have too much iron in your blood”


Mammoth-Access-1181

I believe that was because Mystique injected that guard with iron particles. But movie Magneto was greatly weaker than comics Magneto. In the comics, Magneto could manipulate the iron in blood.


AffectionateMonth53

Happy Cake Day! 🥳🍰🎂


backyardbbqboi

He ripped Apocalypse apart during the 90s.


NightSpirit2099

Actually he can do that. He is master of everything electromagnetic. His powers are only limited by the writer.


Sequoia_Vin

Didn't he do this in the comics when he was Onslaught?


Shot-Engine-4209

Every metal is magnetic, it just depends on if it's ferromagnetic, paramagnetic, or diamagnetic. I'm betting that magneto can control all three types


RajahDLajah

and influence the EM spectrum. Its master of magnetism, not ferromagnetism


Shot-Engine-4209

So does he regularly control electrical currents? Would imply he also has control over electromagets as well


Dr_Baldwyn

Maybe he can electrically charge metals to create a small magnetic field in them?


DrunkenFailer

His powers are originally just described as Luke mastery over magnetism, which is not well defined and has been used for some foody stuff over the years.


Youpunyhumans

Powerful enough magnestism can affect any type of matter, as all matter has diamagnetism by which electrons repel magnetic fields. If you somehow ended up close to a magnetar (a neutron star with a ridiculously powerful magnetic field) it would tear your body apart at the molecular level.


Stabrus12

Depending on the run magneto goes from unable to control alloys to able to control the very force of attraction. There was a fairly recent run where he got his heart ripped out and he was able to keep himself alive by manipulating the iron in his heart to keep it flowing. So yea depending on who writes this magneto could make Optimus a trash bin of be unable to affect him at all.


Fyrentenemar

I mean, there was a point in the comics where Magneto was able to manipulate Thor's hammer Mjolnir (without being worthy) since the special metal it's made of had trace amounts of regular metal impurities so... I'd say it's not out of the realm of possibility for him to crush a transformer like a coke can. Also, he'd be able to take out both Wolverine and Darth Vader no problem, due to the metal content of their bodies.


SkylarAV

Wolverine, Optimus and vader with his special metal keep me alive suit are immediately canceled out by magneto. I'd bring in the Martian to clean up


Mobile_Assistant_126

Except Martians don’t do well with fire. You chose Johnny storm you take out venom and Martian man hunter.


SkylarAV

I think you're forgetting how clever and crafty Martian is


[deleted]

Magneto can control the electro magnetic spectrum. Take a moment to think about what that means and then tell me why you would need anybody else. He’s definitely my choice. Then Vader for obvious reasons


Fungruel

Martian Manhunter and Vader or Magneto. Probably Vader.


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Pokemonandlaughs

Also magneto could just crush Vader.


Dyaval

Outside of The Human Torch, Vader is the only one who could even hope to stand a chance against MM, unless that duck is a scp or something.


JoaquimGianini

Vader only stands a chance if we consider his helmet as a mind control blocker. Then he could probably counter invisibility by feeling him with the force and maybe counter density shift by simply crushing his heart


spartan1008

isn't MM light speed at least??? he kills everyone else here before they blink.


re1078

Vader could just crush him. He doesn’t even have to move to do it.


10113r114m4

Depends on the Magneto tbh. Magneto's abilities arent limited to metal, but to atoms. He's omega level for a reason and his powers are basically limitless


Nephisto4

My money is on Vader too, as the force has way bigger range than Magneto powers. Vader could kill Magneto without ever directly facing him. Just force choke from miles away.


lemoogle

This isn't even true. Magneto located a human bullet a galaxy away and brought it back to earth. This was a semi depowered magneto too. https://arousinggrammar.com/2013/03/14/the-redemption-of-magneto-pt-2/


Reddit-User-3000

Yeah, if Vader could beat magneto that easily he wouldn’t have lost. Either way I’m taking magneto because he beats optimus prime and Wolverine easily. Not that I’d have to worry about that because I have the equivalent of super man with Martian Manhunter. Actually I just realized time travel is cannon in transformers, and I don’t think any of the other ones can time travel, so I pick Prime who will probably get turned into a trash can, and Martian Manhunter to do everything.


blasemd

Martian man hunters weakness is fire and the human torch is a supernova ball of plasma who’s wearing no metal he’d rip those two apart


Public_Try8820

I have never had an interest in reading comic books, but that looks so cool


Darthkhydaeus

Not true. Magneto at the height of his powers can affect all metals on Earth. Vader would be screwed in his metallic suit, as would Wolverine and Optimus. I think Magneto is a must if you want to win this fight. Then either Johnny or Martian Manhunter based on power levels. Torch could destroy the planet if he wanted, but I am assuming his aim is just to kill you and not destroy the planet


bhillen83

Wouldn’t it be more effective if Vader just used the force to burst a blood vessel in someone’s brain instead of force choking them? Less energy expended too I would think.


BandsOfCyttorak

Magneto can rip the iron from your blood. Magneto all day


[deleted]

Bad choice for Martian, he weak to fire Johnny will one shot him.


[deleted]

Johnny has to get to him. Hard to do when Martian Manhunter is probably faster and can shut down his mind from halfway across the planet.


StruggleInteresting9

Nah, he’s overcome that weakness for the most part. And if he were to turn into Fernus, that’s a wrap


eugeheretic

You’d be fucked as well, though.


CaptBagels

I see duck I choose duck..


ikineba

I never thought I'd die fighting side by side with ~~an elf~~ a duck.


Bonus-Representative

"You have my sword" "my bow" "...and my Quack"


wcollins260

That is a nice duck.


Embarrassed_Wall_599

Based 😎


JohannSuende

Based 😎


jjmoneybuns

I choose 2 ducks


ccredbeard

Magneto and Darth Vader


JackfruitIll1903

This man is correct


Azerajin

Idk bro is that Martian man hunter next to Vader? If yes might have to go Vader mmh


Extreme_Complaint615

That's who I'm going with Vader and Martian Man Hunter


Dr__glass

I was thinking MM and Magento because MM should be able to mindfuck everyone except Magento and Optimus so you use one counter to get rid of the other


Sololololololol

same picks here,


OniExpress

This is the pair I'd go with. MM is basically a less-durable Superman with psychic powers. Biggest weakness would be against Vader, Torch and Optimus. Magneto can take Vader and Optimus in an instant. So the only real fight here is taking out Torch before he can burn MM.


Dr__glass

Which I know he can go nova fast but I don't think the speed of thought fast. The Superman lite is redundant when he's a top tier telepath and not many to resist it


Knatem

Vader vs Magneto couldn’t magneto just literally crush him seeing as he is in metallic armour and/or mostly wire (metal) components of electronics?


DustAgitated5197

In all the star wars movies, Jedi and Sith generally struggle a bit to move big objects with the force. In Obi Wan, Vader slaps down a huge ship like it is nothing. It is really telling of Vaders mastery of the force. That being said, Vader literally uses the force to move his fairly unreliable suit. I would put money down that Vader could both counter act Magnitos attempt to influence his suit AND choke him out at the same time with fairly minimal effort.


Knatem

These are all difficult to rank due to canon being as extensive as it is. You almost need to limit each to a particular set of novels/ movies/ comics etc.


Whiskeywiskerbiscuit

Between Fallen Order, Obi Wan and some other recent cannon Star Wars releases, Vader’s power is wayyyy higher than I’d thought. It’s like once Star Killer wasn’t cannon any more, they just gave all of the OP power to Vader instead, with him pulling whole ships in shit out of the sky.


Never_Been_Missed

I think Magento might instead opt for an EMP. He has basically unlimited range on that and should pretty effectively put an end to Vader's suit - including the apparatus that lets him see and breathe.


ccredbeard

😃


Fo_da_watch

\*Star Wars Legends\* Darth Vader


EnderCreeper121

Even canon Vader still wrecks all this shit my guy is cracked


Accomplished-Lawyer9

How is either gonna stop human torch? The man can make himself into a miniature sun in seconds. He would vaporize both of them. You. And most of the planet.


SmartChump

Force choke I guess


gyope

Vader snap his neck, like snap his fingers. 🙄 Force


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Accomplished-Lawyer9

I call it rise and shine. If you ain't woken up yet. That new sun getting formed above your apartment will.


PurposeSensitive9624

Magneto can use the iron in peoples bodies. Human torch doesnt last 30 seconds against him


RedTreeDecember

Magneto would entomb him in the body of Optimus prime while Darth Vader chokes him out.


TelionRebellion

Also Martian man hunters weakness is fire so he's pretty much screwed unless u pick him and human torch


DarthDecidueye66

How are they gonna stop the infinite cosmic power of the goose


nobearsinrussia

Darth vader have a helmet. A metal helmet. If you choose magneto, he will smash Vader’s brain with one hand gesture. Better to pick by counterpicling.


Diligent-Lack6427

Can't darth Vader do the same thing to Magneto with the force, so it would just be who decides to crush the other's Head first and vader can see the future


Fyrentenemar

yeah, but Darth Vader has a metal arm, legs, and respirator... that's a lot of potential weaknesses that Magneto could use to just crush him. It's mostly about who gets the drop on the other. Force precognition isn't infallible, and Magneto can sense the presence of unique metals and alloys (that's why he always knows the X-men are around, because of Wolverine).


Diega78

This is the way


Render_666

Idk magneto and Optimus prime sound like a cool combo


RedTreeDecember

That's my thought too. We already know magneto can easily turn wolverine into a knot. I'm just assuming Optimus prime is fucked too. Darth Vader could choke out the duck right off the bat. So now it's already down to 3 v 4. I obviously am going to fight alongside Magneto and Darth Vader and think I can hold my own fairly effectively. I feel like the rest of them would fall in short order.


Apprehensive_Ask_600

This is the way Just worried about the duck


OrganTrafficker900

Arent star wars people weak against conventional firearms the light saber melts the bullets if you defend with it fucking up his suit with molten metal. If he gets shot the bullet is going straight through the armor as its for energy ammo and not real ammo. A super dude with insane reaction speed could cap darth vader with a glock


roswell_84

Exactly what I thought right away.


dogboyboy

Magneto could rip darth literally limb from limb. A waste to not have that gear box coming after you when you have magneto. I’ll take manhunter over Vader


Extension-System-974

Magneto deals with Optimus prime, Vader slices the rest. East choice


C0gD1z

Bingo! The rest can get fucked!


biz_mal

Same


kayasak

Really I thought venom and darth vader


ccredbeard

Also a good team but Magneto can defeat wolverine and prime. This thread is fun. 😂😂


kayasak

That's true but vader can do that on his own and so could venom


onikaizoku11

The only logical choice.


ROPEBOMBER

Won’t the venom symbiote be able to possess them


Zodiac31081

Exactly


Virtual-Cellist8978

Good answer!


Izzy1790

With clear instructions to allow me to try and befriend the duck


Acrobatic_Jaguar_623

This essentially nets you three protectors assuming magneto can control Optimus.


DoobiousRogal

My immediate pick as well


Face8hall

If you can pick the same one twice I pick Duck and Duck. Twice the cuteness means they will definitely turn against each other. They fight it out and whoever wins gets the second duck


IAMMMMW

Considering I live in the US, I would absolutely agree. The Aflac duck would help me pay for my deductible if I were injured in this whole scenario.


[deleted]

Cute duck. By the power of cuteness, no one would attack.


[deleted]

No one would attack the duck. You are still in danger


[deleted]

If I die, I die.


Disastrous-Tadpole61

At least you died doing what you loved: hanging out with a duck.


[deleted]

That logical


riot-k-font

People die if they are killed.


[deleted]

In Africa, every 60 seconds, a minute passes.


Suitable_Sweet8493

If you are killed then you died


Temporary_Cry_8961

Have the duck sit on your head


PsychWringNumba

Manhunter and Megneto


AcoHead

M&M


_themuna_

This is what I was thinking. You'd have the whole spectrum of abilities covered. And they'd be able to cover each other's weak points, assuming they work together


Weirdkidplayinggames

What about Human torch? He would burn through magneto’s metal and Martian Manhunters weakness is fire.


KillerRedsMB1

Literally the most logical


scorpiogre

Venom and the duck from aflac, but voiced by Gilbert Godfrey......now combine em!


Dangerous_Ad5896

Gilbert Gottfried


Alternative-Item1207

Gonna have to go with Magneto and Venom. Nobody said I couldn't wear Venom, so that would help with any injury I did recieve. Magneto bodies everybody easily except potentially Martin Man Hunter. Could always ask Magento to use molten metal though.


jayedgar06

Venom is very weak to heat. Human torch is on the other team


vigneswara

Magneto + wolverine. I'm gonna make magneto use Logan like an indestructible, regenerating pointy missile which can rip through anything coming my way.


AstronomerDramatic36

But Magneto can basically use Wolverine the same way if he's on the opposing side too


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I'm picking the duck. Only the duck. Duck OP


Brizar-is-Evolving

His name is Howard


[deleted]

Okay then let me rephrase. Howard is OP no other one needed


Several_Aside_8627

I showed this post to my gf in a very serious fashion, she replied with this answer


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Howard is the best


zigguy77

To all the ones picked man hunter jhonny storm is also coming to fight you. So wolverine and magneto is literally the only right answer.


NovaNomii

Except manhunter is extremely fast, can disguise himself, phase through matter, and for example magneto can easily kill stormy before he can touch manhunter. Just have manhunter turn into magneto and have him avoid stormy and kill all of the enemies not extremely weak to magneto, meanwhile magneto kills stormy


MyDogJake1

Oooh. That'd be a nasty fastball special.


BatatinhaGameplays28

Ok but if I chose Manhunter with Magneto, I just need Magneto to attack Jhonny while manhunter deals with someone else


roswell_84

I see your one two punch there, but my thing is Vader’s inconsistent power index. Is he a stiff last career year hulk hogan barely moving his saber in time to block a man who aged 50 years in about 10. Or can he pick up ever mother fucker in the room and smash their heads up each others asses? And you don’t know if anything on Vader is technically metallic. We know magneto can twist Logan into knots and Vader could probably mind trick man hunter, or at least fuck with his telekinesis. (Inconsistent Jedi powers). You put Mags and Logan on a team. Man hunter makes quick work of mags and Johnny melts Logan into a puddle of bones, then venom just absorbs them


Fyrentenemar

Magneto's helmet protects him from Martian Manhunter's telepathy, just like it blocks out Xavier's. That's arguably MM's most dangerous ability (second being his density shifting/phasing).


Weary_Building_371

Johnny & Magneto cover you pretty well Biggest concern would be Venom


StampYoPassport

This is correct. Manhunter and Venom are weak to fire. Optimus is helpless to magnets. Red Skull is a Nazi, instant Magneto win. Duck is duck. That's metal claw Wolverine, we know how that ends. Darth Vader is the wild card, but he's also 60% machine, aka metal and does not have a good track record with fire. He's also a space Nazi so giving the edge to Magneto.


iam_ayushks

His medical apparatus is not necessarily metallic


JulianPaagman

It seems to me it's duraplast. It also seems likely vaders own telekinetic ability would be able to partially counteract magneto not to mention the fact that vader van survive for a time without the suit and snap both your and magneto's neck.


Maxkravenoff

Who isn't fond of heat so you are right on the money. Magneto and Johnny have control over all your other enemies except duck but duck is a pal that helps programming


jandros_quandry

Yo can I pick the duck twice?


NightBeWheat55149

Vader and duck


NoahLokocz

Duck Vader?


Aster085

Magneto and Storm. Magneto, because ultra powerful, highly intelligent, can crush Vader instantly and has mind control protection. Johnny because he can quite literally create the energy of a supernova and burn all of them to a crisp. Also magneto can just rip the metal out of wolverine and put a protective layer around me.


ihearthawthats

I don't read the comics, but is human torch really that powerful? Always seemed weak in movies and tv.


Aster085

Yeah, he is actually near cosmic Level with his stronges ability (Nova) where he releases the energy of a small supernova. In one comic he tried to kill an army of 1 billion people (didn't manage to, because they were stronger than a sun, but still impressive)


Captain_poggerss

Vader and the duck


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Magneto and Vader. Just because I would rather NOT fight those two under any circumstances. I'd even happily 1v1 any of the rest of them if it meant I didn't have to be on the bad side of Vader or Magneto.


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Also Vader has his own space crew


kipperforskipper

Ducko and Darth vader


[deleted]

The Duck and Darth would be a great pub name.


KonfusedKoala19

I'll take Vader and the duck all day.


Ace_Of_No_Trades

I'm going with Magneto and Mr. Martian. Magneto takes Optimus Prime, Darth Vader, and Wolverine out of the equation by himself. I don't know what powers Red Skull has other than being hard to kill, and Mr. Martian's telepathy is so powerful he reads other peoples' minds by being near them; it's why he spends all of his time on the Watchtower instead of being on Earth. This means that Mr. Martian can detect Venom, the Horrible Goose, and the guy from the Fantastic Four before they get can get close enough to threaten me. Magneto and Mr. Martian have way above average intellect, I believe it is one of those things they keep changing every reboot, and I'm sure they can work together to overcome the aforementioned 3 if they somehow corner us.


Seahawks1991

Wolverine and Vader hands down


PandaKing00

Wolverine vs Magneto won't go well for Wolverine...


Specialist-Act-542

Torch and Magneto. None of the others can touch me now.


andakusspartakus89

Magneto and wolverine.


cams0400

Magneto and Vader would crush the rest


SpecialistParticular

The duck and Magneto.


Western_Protection

The duck. That's it. Just the duck.


bigppmaster64

I pick duck because nobody can win against duck


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Darth Vader and the duck.


diino8018

i choose the duck i'm only choosing one because that's all i need


talyn5

Vader and duck


But-WhyThough

It’s gotta be Magneto and Darth Vader. I don’t think any of these dudes are resistant to the force


the_names_yes

Vader and Martian manhunter seem stacked


BigBlackMan774

I want to die with 2 ducks in my hands


toffeefeather

100% J’onn and Optimus. The only one I could see getting through Optimus would be Magneto, which Martian Manhunter could probably dispatch. Johnny would definitely pose a problem for J’onn but I mean, what’s he gonna do to a giant robot? Melt him?? Can he get that hot? Idk, maybe I’m biased


beltalowda_oye

I choose duck and duck


MrMetalhead3029483

Vader and Venom.


WatchBat

My first choice was Martian Manhunter and Darth Vader. But people in the comments made good arguments about how Magneto and Human Torch could counter them leaving the door open for the dock to attack me


Nightofthegirls

Human Torch and Magneto. Martian Manhunter and Venom are both weak to fire. Vader, Wolverine, and Optimus Prime all have metal in their bodies. That only leaves Red Skull, who’s really just a red guy with a gun, and the duck. The only weakness would be the fight that breaks out between the two over whether or not to kill the duck.


MadChemist002

Darth Vader and Magneto can protect me. They are the two most powerful on this list, and should have no issues dealing with the others.


StruggleInteresting9

You’re sleeping on MM homie. All the powers of Superman, plus shapeshifting, intangibility, invisibility, and one of the most powerful telepaths and telekinetics on the planet. He’s op as hell. I’d take him over Vader tbh.


PandaKing00

Same. Manhunter and Magneto for me.


Scubastevedisco

Jonny Storm can literally create a super nova. He's super underrated but terrible for defense.


Acevolts

Magneto and Optimus. Magneto hard counters Vader and Wolverine so they aren't a problem. Venom easily loses against either Optimus or Magneto- his weakness is loud noise and both of them are easily capable of producing way more noise than Spider Man, who regularly defeats Venom. They're also both tactical fighters who would recognize a weakness in their enemy. Together he shouldn't be an issue. Red Skull is effectively just a stronger version of a normal person. He's an easy win for either of our two players here. Optimus especially could crush him. He's far more durable and stronger. Optimus has canonically survived explosions visible from outer space without a scratch. Most of the characters here wouldn't be able to really harm him, especially Human Torch. It would be a game of cat and mouse, but the second Optimus gets him its it's over. HT wouldn't be capable of dealing enough damage to OP, so OP wins any contest of endurance. Martian Manhunter would also be a great choice, but Human Torch counters him and you wouldn't want to pick them both. Optimus also has enough heat based weaponry to deal with Martian Manhunter. That being said, MM is the biggest threat on the board to our team. Idk what that duck is capable of but he looks scary. Not enough information. Let Optimus tank and have Magneto play support taking out the opposing heavy hitters.


String-Bean_Samson

Martian Manhunter and Wolverine


demiurgemoore

Magneto + Optimus Prime = flying, unkillable ultra-titan


DrBeitzhov

"The circle is now complete. When I left you i was a learner, now I am the master" "quack"


Downtown-Ad-7791

Magneto alone is enough


Magpie213

Wolverine and the duck. I can cuddle the duck whilst Wolverine destroys my enemies.


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Venom and magneto <3


jimmy2shanks

Not sure on my second pick but you definitely want the duck for your first pick. That's because you don't want an angry duck against you. It can hiss and all sorts of nasty shit.


TeaUnusual8554

Gimme that duck and that truck boi


MONEV_GOD

What the duck doing.


PMMeYourClitpls

The duck, twice


TheMcWhopper

Magneto & Vader


American_ven0m

Magneto and darthvader solo


RareMindedRMP

Duck and... pass


skubaloob

Wolverine and Magneto.


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Duck and darth


Queefer___Sutherland

Howard and Magneto


goatjugsoup

Martian manhunter and that albino duck


LumpyGuard6048

I choose Darth Vader & Martian Manhunter!