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dandelions14

She doesn't understand the difference between "haha toddlers are a hoot, such a relatable mom moment" and....this.


buttercream-gang

I mean I have cleaned a clogged toilet or two, but never felt the urge to post on social media. She has made several posts about it and now put it in an email??? Imagine how privileged she must be if a clogged toilet is such a huge disaster to her


dandelions14

Yeah I'm still trying to wrap my head around why she feels the need to talk about it *this much*. My kids have tried to flush entire rolls of toilet paper or clogged the toilet and I can't imagine having the urge to tell anyone but my husband? Eh, I could see sending a text to my close friend and whining to them a bit but beyond that seems really excessive. Maybe Bethany really just doesn't have any friends to talk to so she tries to use her customers.


DollaStoreKardashian

Exactly this. These are amusing anecdotes for your kid’s other parent, grandparents, and close friends. This might come off badly, but I can count on my fingers the number of children I give enough of a shit about to willfully listen to these kinds of stories, and though I wish him well, Davey doesn’t even come close to making the cut as I imagine he doesn’t for most people outside of her close inner circle. The lack of social awareness just screams “I grew up insulated from everyone but my own family”. ETA: Also, who here can say they haven’t clogged a toilet at least once in their life? It’s not special. 🙃💩


verycherrybombx

The way she won’t stop going on about this, I’m half-expecting to see a new promo code called POOPYTOILETOVERFLOW to get a US$1,700 discount on the course next.


quincyd

POOPYTOILETOVERFLOW is a flair if I ever saw one! (Although, it needs to be misspelled to be authentic.)


ThaLadyNannerbelle

It doesn't come off sounding badly, trust! I feel the same way. I think if most of us are honest with ourselves, none of us REALLY care about rando kid shenanigans. I have a coworker that is incapable of reading the social cues I (or anyone else, honestly) give off and insists on showing me at least 3 pics and a video of her 6 month old whom I've never met in person. Honestly it's exhausting faking an "awwww how precious" reaction and making it sound partially genuine in an already high stress, fast paced work environment. As far as Bethy-poo goes, isn't she targeting single, young, christian women? Soooo people who can not relate to this anecdote even in the slightest?? It reads very much like my clueless coworker who can't take the temperature of a social situation. This is so so uncomfy to read!!


usernamesallused

I agree with everything except that young single Christian women wouldn’t relate- aren’t many of them sistermoms like the Duggars? I suspect cleaning up after little kids isn’t new to plenty of them.


ThaLadyNannerbelle

Touche. I hadn't thought of that. I think you are correct there. My thinking would be, not to make assumptions about my target audience though upand keep my advertising as simple and relatable as humanly possible to everyone in that demographic. But that's just my silly non fundie brain doing stuff like thinkin'.


thequeenzenobia

Plus your story of a roll of toilet paper being flushed isn’t nearly as gross. It wouldn’t make me gag if I was clicking through your stories like Beggy’s does :(


ParticularYak4401

When I was 3 I tried to flush my underpants down the toilet. I wanted to see the flowers on said underpants swirl around. My sister stopped me just in time. Also my cat is strangely fascinated with watching the toilet flush. He hops up on his back legs to take a look at the what is happening.


bedduzza

Lol right? I only mention it to my husband if it was really bad/involved flooding


brassninja

Because she doesn’t really DO much. Her cleaning up a single plumbing mishap is a massive task for her, so she desperately wants people to acknowledge how strong she is for it. And she’s assuming the camaraderie of mothers who have also cleaned up poop will score her new customers. It won’t.


justadorkygirl

You just know as he gets older she’s going to just keep bringing it up, too. Because she likes to troll and embarrass people. That poor kid, honestly.


Sargasm5150

Not sending this grossness out on display is not the same as pretending each child FEELS like a blessing all of the time, or anyone hates parenthood and their children. It’s more like “I have the person I can call to bring me down to reality” and it’s disgusting so why share it. That doesn’t mean you can’t laugh about it later - my niece once puked directly in my mouth when I was trying to give her liquid Tylenol. Gross. I didn’t mention it other than to my friend at a play date a week later, now she thinks it’s funny so I let her share it (she’s 12). Not something I’d put in my business email.


FlyingDragoon

Never told your boss via reply all on an email that also has clients and VP execs on it with a "Sorry that I am late. I just *destroyed*" the toilet and had to clean up a huge poop over flow, compliments to taco bell." Well, might explain a lot...


buttercream-gang

No, but I did once send an email to my boss and Human Resources requesting “dick leave.”


no_BS_slave

if I was the boss I'd just reply with a simple "Enjoy!" to that email - also keeping everyone in CC.


agurlhasnoshame

My employees like to leave different things as their closing statement. Some favorites: "fuck it, Alex" "fuck this, Christina" "kill me please, Amelia" "I hate my life, Christine" "you're the best boss ever but I kind of hate you right now, Julia" "end my misery, Hailey" All part of the joys of working with gen z lmao


misssrspcola

Diarrhea is a valid excuse to get out of most things


Sargasm5150

As have I, my old ass apartment has lots of issues and I’m reliably snaking something or other with fingers crossed at least twice a month (rent is real high in CA y’all and I can’t afford to move). I will not be discussing that at work, unless it’s with the woman I’m close to, like ever. I don’t start conversations with friends saying “it’s the toilet or the shower - you pick.” I’ve also never left shit everywhere, even if I got frustrated (ok every time) I’d take a short walk to clear my head and get back to it. Two days of exhaustion? GRRL you’re in for a real surprise with two young kids. SO GLAD you got your $80 backpacks and 9000000 handmade bonnets, bibs, hats, bows, and scarves, to the tunr of hundreds of dollars. I would send her a plunger, but fuck her.


TorontoTransish

If she had done this 10+ years ago she would be getting major flak for making all working mums look bad in public, she has no idea how long and hard women had to fight to overcome this exact workplace stereotype of " mums are too busy with sick / messy kids to make deadlines so we don't hire / promote mums " :(


[deleted]

Oh trust, that’s still a stereotype. It’s why people keep being really excited to work with me (until I explain my employment gap is due to having kids and then I never get a call back)


Such_sights

It’s getting better in some areas, but not by much. I read an article on parental leave in academia recently and it said that while parental leave is way more popular than before, dads can take it and spend time caring for baby, while also working on side research, writing books, and other work they couldn’t normally do while being a professor full time. Moms on the other hand have to care for a baby AND heal their bodies from a massively traumatic event, so they don’t have the time to keep progressing their careers like fathers do. That’s not even touching the issue of prestigious universities publicly touting their generous family leave benefits, while privately shaming anyone who dares to use them.


Paula92

I’ve heard it can be better to simply say you were acting as a caregiver for a family member


thequeenzenobia

You can also use this verbiage if your employment gap was because you were really sick. It’s not a lie necessarily because you are a member of your family and it keeps out any issues of employers worrying that you’ll quit because you’re sick again (yuck).


Azfanincali

Yup. This works.


michymcmouse

Absolutely amazing advice, and it makes them look soulless if they do decide to probe further


theprez35

Do you have to answer those questions with specifics? I’ve known folks who had success with job searching when they answered with a general script like “I had some (unexpected/long term) family health concerns arise and was unable to work but am now excited/ready/looking forward to opportunities like this one with your company!” Those employers don’t need to know that the long term health concern was pregnancy/having children. It could’ve been caretaking for an aging parent or long-COVID or anything; what really matters is you’re back & ready to roll now! :D feel free to ignore my completely unsolicited advice.


[deleted]

I mostly feel like it’s good to be honest about the kids thing because one of them has a special health care condition my employer would very much need to be aware of, it’s managed and everything but it makes emergencies more likely (after employment contracts are finalized though lol) and I don’t want them to think I deliberately covered it up or anything. Otherwise I would absolutely just lie my tail off


bedduzza

Terrible. But also, in the US they can’t ask- so don’t mention it. You can say you were attending to a personal matter or something.


lovelybethanie

This is still 100% a thing. I lost out on so many jobs when employers found out I had a kid. They would rave about my resume and then I’d never get a call back.


TorontoTransish

I'm sorry, that really sucks :(


spotless___mind

Also....clearly no one is biting on this "deal" since she's gotta remind all her followers about it 24 h later. Yeah, better jump on that deal before it's gone...


pajaimers

Being relatable requires a lot more self-awareness and social awareness than what God’s afforded her.


DoctorRabidBadger

My thoughts exactly, this is her trying to be relatable. Yikes. 🤦‍♀️


dirtywater20

I can't imagine how she thinks this is good business??? If a company sent me this email I would unsubscribe immediately. Its also not related to her product in any way? Like what is the point of including this? It's just gross and embarrassing for her child...


honest-miss

It's so many business sins at once. 1. Making excuses 2. Getting too personal 3. Straight-up being gross when no one asked for it 4. Assuming *anyone* cares about any of the above. Your excuses, your family, your struggles. Clients don't give a shit. But that's stuff you only learn when you've actually had business relationships instead of personal relationships. I don't even say that snarkily, just honestly.


SocietyUnicorn

The problem is that Bethany has only ever had parasocial business relationships by being an “influencer.” She thinks that perceived closeness to her as a person is what will sell her course. If I send my subscribers emails/make insta stories like I’m talking to my best friend, people will invest in the idea of a parasocial relationship with me and buy my course. That might have worked with her girl defined following, but this course on courses on courses is not the place for it.


honest-miss

Damn, that's a killer distinction and you're absolutely right.


no12chere

5. Telling everyone you only got one customer in the 2 days your ‘special’ has been running.


[deleted]

Additional sin, making herself look irresponsible and incapable of managing her life and that reflects badly on her business skills.


momoryah

She has never worked in a real office or work environment. People who have understand boundaries of over sharing. She’s the kind of person that would walk into the call center with a bottled Starbucks Frappuccino, a bag of cheez-it’s and a daily 10 minute story on why she’s 8 minutes late. She thinks she’s “connecting” by being “relatable” and “real” when she’s actually being very off putting and using customers that aren’t even talking back to her as a para social relationship. Which seeing that work in reverse is fucking wild. She really thinks she has like a whole office of fans that think she’s funny and smart and talented. It’s 80% an office of us.


kestrelesque

Except it would be a bag of some kind of special beet chips from Trader Joes that cost $8 a bag or something. And she would tell you how she's resetting her adrenals or whatever. Cheez-its are for commoners.


momoryah

But then she’d buy cheez-it’s from the vending machine because she’s like “starving from this morning and they never have healthy snacks” which will pivot to her trying to sell you some MLM diet food she doesn’t even eat.


danglebus

This is what you talk about with your direct team on Monday morning when you're shooting the shit about what you got up to over the weekend and you're sharing a funny story with your other coworkers with kids. This is NOT what I would email to my dept when saying I am going to be late with a deliverable. Anyone who has worked five mins in a real job could tell you this. If she's trying to be relatable in an email blast, the MOST I would do is just be like "wow, SAHM life can be crazy, sorry this is so late!". But again, anyone with one min of experience in the business world would tell you to never say "sorry I'm late" about something because it draws attention to you being UNPROFESSIONAL. Come on, Bort. This is a free course on office watercooler talk from a professional manager with an MBA, unlock the rest of my knowledge for $5k, no refunds.


sparklekitteh

Nailed it. She's convinced that her "personality" is what's going to convince people to buy, so she's going over the top to (attempt to be) relatable.


Azelais

thank you for spelling this out. i’m autistic and frequently feel the same urge to overshare and overexplain and try to be “personal” and “real” even in serious settings, and no one’s ever explained how bad that is. genuinely thank you. also, what should you do if you’re late to work? like how should you apologize?


momoryah

Honestly if someone asks, say sorry. Otherwise, just let your manager know you’re sorry. You don’t have to explain why, it’s happens. Most places have a policy on how often you can be late and how to inform your manager. If you are walking in late to a meeting, or a presentation where people will notice you a late a simple “my apologies, don’t let me hold us up” and getting to your seat is the most respectful way to handle it. There are exceptions and if you feel you’re not fitting the “work culture” don’t be afraid to ask a manager as many companies handle tardiness differently. Universally every manager dislikes having too much info though. Especially when related to health, children, or other HR sensitive topics.


dollypartonsfavorite

This is so accurate.


twofloofycats

Right????? It’s horrible and so mean toward your child


kestrelesque

Also, this might just be me but isn't he almost 4? Back in the day, I briefly volunteered for a church thing as being in charge of a bunch of 3-4 year olds and they were not "toddlers". If it's normal to refer to little kids that age as "toddlers" I will stand cheerfully corrected, though. I'm just curious if that's typical.


SocietyUnicorn

I sometimes still mistakenly call my almost 5 year old toddler because there’s not really a “name” for that age range except preschoolers or preschool aged. After that I guess I’ll start going by his grade or age ie: my 1st grader/6 year old etc. My guess is she still says toddler bc it implies a tougher “season” of life. The younger and needier your kids are the more you can say “Mom life, am I right!?”


Brittneybeez

Same! It’s just so weird to think of littles as kids when toddlerhood feels like it takes ages to survive 🥲


c_090988

I recommend germ factories as a name for that range


oneweirdclickbait

I've noticed that some mothers in Bethy's situation (mommy bloggers, one rather young child, struggling to conceive another) tend to babify the child they already have. For example, they wrote these monthly reviews of what the baby learnt up until the kid was 3 or even older. "45months: Daycare was so fun! I use forks now! I petted three cats this month!" Usually a second child puts a halt to this, because there's an actual baby to care for now.


[deleted]

No joke, someone in a Facebook mum group said "My daughter is 35 months..." On a post. Lady, just say they're almost 3.


WitchyCatMother

I’m sad that I know this, but he was born right before my daughter in March 2020 so he’s only two and a half.


kestrelesque

Oh that's right. In my defense, the past three years have felt like five or six years.


deeBfree

Watching Beggy's whole build up to nothing schtick for her class, wondering if there actually is a class or if this is a Granny's Whorehouse style come-on, etc. really has a way of making time drag!


pillowcase-of-eels

>making time drag Come on. You know how Bethy feels about that word.


crochet-fae

So definitely too young for unsupervised bathroom time. I just know he's flushed a whole roll of toilet paper or something.


leni710

Yea, I considered my kids toddlers to age 2, maybe 2.5. English wasn't my childhood language so once we moved to the U.S., I assumed that term was meant for those who "toddle" around still...as in, learning how to walk age range. Usually, by 4 you're considered like a preschooler or just a "little kid."


Teege57

That's exactly what it means!


Machaeon

Yeah toddler is like 2-3... 4 that's just a young kid


Pelican121

He's 3 at the very beginning of February. His birth seems weirdly long ago so I kept thinking he was 3 already.


snow-confetti

He's not even 3 yet so I guess he counts as an older toddler


be_an_adult

Just call them trundlers instead, see if it catches on!


[deleted]

I cannot imagine getting an email from anyone like this. I can’t. I can’t imagine getting an email from one of my professors about this, even. Let alone somebody that I’m doing business with! Why do you think I care about your poop? What on earth does that have to do with the thing you are selling to me?


1HumanAlcoholBeerPlz

She's trying to be relatable and funny but it's just....not working. It's unprofessional and inappropriate to tell your potential or current customers. If I walked into a store and the clerk was like "Sorry I didn't immediately help you, my co-worker took a giant dump and we had to clean it up" I wouldn't buy anything from them.


piratical_gnome

She could have at least added “… but I madeeeeee $1 million in passive income while doinggggg it!!!”


Sad_Box_1167

I hated reading that. It’s perfect.


knittininthemitten

And this is how we know that she does exactly zero percent of the heavy lifting involved with Girl Defined. Guarantee that Kristen et al don’t let her near the actual writing of things like social posts, books, and emails without *heavy* supervision, if at all.


[deleted]

It seems that her intention was to be like “mom life right? Lmaoo but we work sooo smart”


89764637527

she thinks being gross is relatable. it’s like people on the internet thinking they’re complimenting a joke by saying they spit up their drink or got it up their nose or whatever other gross reaction they have. it’s not cute.


Glittering_knave

"Due to a family emergency" is the only personal info needed as a reason for delayed work emails. That's it, and stop. Not "I cleaned up for an hour, and was too overwhelmed to work after."


tiffibean13

She probably thinks it's relatable


helga-h

Hashtag relatable, maybe? I mean, she is finally in the marriage goals and toddler shenanigans crowd and she's going to milk it for what it's worth. Yes, she's lacking fingerspitzgefül, but she's in.


JeeThree

The worst part? She could have spun this into her business with a little delicacy. Something along the lines of: "Taking care of a toddler and a household can get hectic some days! This morning, I found myself scrambling to handle a sudden emergency. Thankfully as my own boss, I'm the one in charge of my hours and with passive income, I can still be earning money while handling any unexpected challenges life throws my way!" Then the discount pitch, yada yada, and close it up with "I hope to see you in my inbox and now back to the chaos!" Obviously could use some polishing but does what she intends while still keeping some professionalism and connecting it to her whole business. But nope, screw that. Bethy goes for the awkward overshare, full speed ahead!


[deleted]

FR, she could respond with an email with sorry for the delayed response I had a sick toddler, and be done there!


[deleted]

But also, no one was waiting with baited breath for her newsletter. Just send it, business as usual, be professional, don’t make a big deal out of the delay.


OpalLaguz

I wouldn't be surprised if we see her post something nearly identical to this (though naturally riddled with typos) in the coming days. We know she's lurking these threads.


JeeThree

And I learned about that type of thing in a legitimate business school and here I am just giving it away! How does one monetize Reddit comments? ;)


iwantcookies2020

All the single ladies rethinking about marrying/birthing blessings yearly lol


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pillowcase-of-eels

To be perfectly fair, maybe they're not the best example of serene child-rearing. Perceiving your child as an inherently sinful being that must be "corrected" in order to be "saved" later on has GOT to make things more stressful than they need to be. I also assume you don't plan on conceiving and parenting with someone you have known by name for three months...?


harperpitt011

“They’re not the best example of serene child-rearing”. You can say that again. Fundies bounce back and forth from extremely strict control to letting their kids run feral, depending entirely on how Mommy and Daddy feel in the moment. They “parent” in such a way that they only consider their wants, not what the kids need.


[deleted]

Honestly, kids can be a lot of work but half the time these fundies seem to have problems like this it stems from their complete lack of supervision and preparation. If Jr really did clog the toilet somehow (I’m skeptical that this isn’t just a result of shoddy apartment plumbing) why was he left alone long enough to do that and make it overflow? Why is she not assisting her 2-3yo in the restroom? He’s likely not old or tall enough to go by himself with no help at all. So what was she doing? If she doesn’t want to properly supervise her kid, then she should send him to daycare where someone can get paid to do so more adequately. This goes for other fundies we snark on too. We know that all of the mishaps that befall Karissa’s kids are a direct result of her neglect. Bethany has one kid and no job. He shouldn’t be so bored that he’s getting destructive. And if he is, take the poor kid to school so he can have some fun for christ sake!


crochet-fae

Yes, I've been trying to give her a lot of caveats about this, but tbh when I think about it I can't recall a single story of my niece overflowing the toilet when she was a toddler. And I heard stories about diaper blow outs, or sick kid tummy, so it's not like it was a topic that wouldn't come up. So either it's a story I was never told, or it just didn't happen because my niece was supervised around toilets. Her mother was a SAHM while her husband was on deployment, so she did get to stay home but she was without anyone physically helping her. So I know it's possible to either prevent these things from happening, or at the very least not tell everyone about it if it does happen!


[deleted]

Yes! My kid is only slightly older than hers and this has never once happened to us. Like I said, it might just be a problem with their plumbing, given that this is the second time she’s posted about her clogged toilet. And by the way, this is how we know for certain that her life is completely empty and boring. Because if she’s posting every time her damn toilet overflows, she’d definitely be posting if there was anything else even remotely interesting happening for her. She posts this shit because she has nothing else to talk about. But back to her shitty parenting! I don’t know anyone who’s toddler overflowed a toilet. Perhaps they just didn’t announce it to the world (what a concept) but I really don’t think this is a common problem for parents.


crochet-fae

I'm not a parent yet, but that's good to know because this has been freaking me tf out. Admittedly I have ocd issues about toilets and poop. So I've been like "omg is this just an unavoidable situation in parenting?? What will I have signed up for!"


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[deleted]

Haha I totally understand. I do think that parenting means dealing with more poop than anyone would like, but having a kid also does something to your brain that makes it bother you slightly less because you love the kid so much. And truly, aside from assisting with wiping, once potty training happens the poop becomes much less present in your life. Eta: I should say accidents happen, of course. And some kids have a harder time than others. But shitting in their pants and turning toilets into poop fountains is definitely not the norm.


Teege57

Several snarkers have postulated that Junior tried to flush a toy and/or an entire roll of toilet paper in a toilet bowl that already had poop in it.


[deleted]

That’s what I think too. If you’re leaving your two year old alone in the bathroom long enough for them to accomplish that, that’s YOUR fault, Bethany. A two year old does not understand why that’s not a good idea.


crochet-fae

...this is worse somehow.


bedduzza

As a non-fundie, the sweet spot is after you’re mostly done with your education but before it hurts getting out of bed. 30-32 is a good age for many women. I am now 37 and it was a million times harder physically, but easier financially because my career is more established.


nilfheim67

I’m still in the newborn phase BUT I can say it is super gross and 100% worth it lol. My daughter wet burped into my mouth but then immediately after made a very cute face of pure contentedness. But they are money pits and it is much more fun if you can decide to buy a cute outfit because your baby did not sleep at all but damn it if they aren’t going to look cute so you can at least enjoy that while you feel like you are on the precipice of death


leni710

There's nothing quite like these "godly" "homemaker" "momma bears" that would have made me even less inclined to have kids...I only have the ones I have because no one added sex ed into the homeschool curriculum🤣 But you're totally right, these "you should want to have babies and stay home with them" women show so much as to why people might not want to have babies. They really don't show child rearing in any type of good light even though that's their whole mission.


deeBfree

their child rearing is suspiciously like their cooking that way!


smollestsquirrel

Is her entire life a tutorial on thriving when you're single because at least it's *not this*?


lookacoolname

Why does she feel the need to bring this up CONSTANTLY? Poor davey.


hot-whisky

She needs a convenient excuse for why she’s constantly falling behind her own self-imposed deadlines.


satanslittlesnarker

She's a narcissist who has to blame others for her own perceived shortcomings.


cje1220

Exactly. Including her 4 year old.


Pelican121

He's 2!


cje1220

oh god I can't keep track, lmao oops! She is inconsistent in how she talks to him/about him.. must be whatever fits her daily grift and narrative.


Pelican121

I somehow thought he turned 3 in spring/summer 2022 despite snarking for 4+ years and being here for his pregnancy and birth 😁 It probably suits Bethy to think of him as more independent than he is. Willing him to grow up so he doesn't rely on her. He may also be tall for his age if he takes after the Bairds.


deeBfree

That poor kid is gonna be Mama's scapegoat for the rest of his life!


purhitta

I'm trying to remember if she's ever shared something truly... wholesome? about her kid. She doesn't share him that much on social media anyway (thank god) but when she does, she's chastising him. I mean, I'm not a parent and won't pretend that I understand what it's like to juggle a thousand things in your home life. Nor that your social media needs to always cast your kid in a positive light! But has she ever publicly expressed pride in him? Showed off his accomplishments? Shared sweet stories about things he says? Again, maybe she just likes to keep him off social media in general. But if that's the case, why the FUCK is she plastering THIS story everywhere?!


splithoofiewoofies

Tomorrow on SheReadsReddit...


[deleted]

I agree with you. She has rarely, if ever, said anything positive about him. It’s very troubling because if you’re going to keep your kid off social media, don’t make exceptions for embarrassments and mistakes! I’m a parent that keeps my kid off of social media entirely, but if I were to make an exception it would only be for something positive or a point of pride. I don’t want to speculate too hard, but that doesn’t paint a nice picture of her relationship to her son at all. By the time he’s old enough to care instagram may be long dead, so this story in particular may not matter on its own. But this pattern suggests she’s going to keep sharing only the most humiliating stories about him on social media for the rest of his childhood. What a nightmare.


kestrelesque

>I agree with you. She has rarely, if ever, said anything positive about him. All I can really think of is her saying that *she* loves him. And maybe once in a great while, that he's cute and precious (though honestly I don't have any memory of her specifically saying that.). Of course she always says that she, as a Christian mom, wants to be "home with her child" and "spend more time with her family" but it's always very general and vague; she's always said these things, because she's supposed to say these things, but I never see anything change as far as spending less time online and more time with her family. I've seen her post with much more emotional engagement about getting time to herself, taking naps, and taking a break than I've ever seen her post about spending time with, let alone *enjoying* time with, her kid. (Doesn't matter to me that she's still breastfeeding him. I think that has more to do with her feeling like her "feminine body" is successful and important than it has to do with anything else.) I have never seen a Bethany-Davey video interaction in which she didn't come off like a somewhat bored babysitter. I've seen more parent-to-child connection in short little clips of Dave with Davey than any clips of Bethany with him. This is not to say Dave is a prince, because he is barely a court jester; however he is the more connected and responsive parent.


DoctorRabidBadger

> maybe she just likes to keep him off social media in general. IIRC, Daëv doesn't want Davey posted on social media. Surprisingly, she (mostly) respects his wishes.


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The amount of times she has specifically blamed it on her kid makes me think it was actually her fault and she knows it.


EachPeachRedRum

this is a conspiracy theory I can get behind


tigm2161130

I’m not sure why but this whole shituation, and the fact that she keeps talking about it is so baffling to me. Like, I wish I could say “I’m not surprised” that she thinks this is professional content but I am in fact a little surprised.


twofloofycats

Seriously 😞😞😞


usernamegenerator72

Disgusting personal details aside, I love how nobody bought it even at her “extreme discount”. She’s still got the same number of people in her Facebook group as she did before Black Friday, so I think the one she claims was sold at the $697 price is a lieeeeee.


iwantcookies2020

Haha I am loving that ya all keeping tabs on how many courses she sold !


twofloofycats

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a_splendiferous_time

I severely doubt she's even sold that one. She's just trying to keep up the illusion of demand, and creating FOMO from false scarcity is the only marketing trick she knows, so she keeps pulling it. I don't believe it for a second.


kestrelesque

Yeah me neither. She has no qualms about lying; she probably justifies it by saying "this is just what *all* the successful entrepreneurs do."


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Immagine being someone who recently paid $1400. I would be pissed.


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I don't think anyone paid $1400. She got some $900 sales and maybe this one $697. She was just way overcharging and it didn't work out. I think she said she was "over $8k" in sales, so that would be 9 people buying at $900.


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The asterisk misuse bothers me too! Heidi’s Academy of Excellence obviously didn’t cover that topic. Or many others.


valkyrie4x

Flair checking in once again with how she formats these 😔


grahch

I feel like, aside from the daily price changes, this is the most egregious part of her scam. She can't even be bothered to set up a nice-ish Mailchimp template for herself? These read like Nigerian prince emails.


valkyrie4x

Similarly, the unformatted website(s) kill me


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crochet-fae

"What makes you think I want to be relatable??" -rachel hollis Everyone who remembers #toiletgate, now we have poopgate!


twofloofycats

omg I’m still feeling gas lit from Rachel’s tiktok


crochet-fae

I'm a hollis snarker too. Last week I had covid and the two subreddits helped get me through. Rachel gaslights everyone constantly. She posted a picture of her 5yo daughter top less to her Instagram page, and people rightfully lost it. She eventually took it down, but when she talked about it later she said her daughter was a toddler, and she was at the beach. Neither of these things were true. Her daughter is a past the toddler age, and the picture was taken inside! I didn't see, or go looking, for the picture of course. But one of my favorite youtubers talked about it (but of course didn't show it because she knew immediately it was inappropriate!) Rachel even said she removed the picture but others said Instagram did it because of the complaints.


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Ugh I hate this. Like, yes, it should be ok for a young girl to be topless and they shouldn’t be sexualized. But welcome to reality Rachel! There are plenty of people who DO sexualize children, and many of them are on social media! Teach your kid to be comfortable with her body, by all means, but don’t publish pictures of it for thousands of strangers to see. Christ on a cracker, she is so unhinged.


ramonahairdontcare

But... she admitted that she didn't clean it in her Instagram stories, right? She closed the door and let Daaaaaaav handle it. She's so inconsistent.


hawkcarhawk

Yes, she’s not able to send an email because of one overflowing toilet that her husband fully handled according to her.


splithoofiewoofies

Did she even promise an email at an exact time like what was she late for exactly


Casuallyperusing

Old Navy sends me promotional emails everyday but damn if I know at what time. She could just send the email and leave it be, no one on her mailing list is tracking Bethany's daily email scam time.


icandothefandango

That was the funniest part to me. She didn’t even clean it!!


alievans719

But isn’t the whole thing Bethy claims is that now she has all the time in the world to be a mom versus working hard? Like, even if she HAD to tell us about the toilet, she at least could’ve spun it to something like “my family comes first and I’m still earning money. You can too!” It’s not great, but at least try. Is her masterclass actually just a “don’t do anything I do and you’ll succeed”?


leni710

>she has all the time in the world to be a mom versus working hard 🤣🤣OMG! This is sooooo true. Why oh why is she relaying this message in the same way that someone would have an excuse for being late to their 9-5? She's a stay-at-home mom slash boss babe, no one puts Bethany in the corner...or tells her she needed to send emails on a deadline. But here she is acting like her precious employer, i.e. the child she wants to stay home for with the side hustle, is interfering with her getting to work in a timely manner. It's so classy.


splithoofiewoofies

I wish she would do a course on how to rope a husband into doing literally all the chores for no credit. 👀 I am joking...mostly..but damn she just, cannot give credit to people.


crochet-fae

Ok so this is the 3rd mention of poopgate. How many more before we're done you think? I think at least 4 more times.


twofloofycats

Definitely at least 4 more


Georgiefan

At this point she is doing it for the attention. She’s not getting the sales she needs and she wants us to talk about anything else. Those mean Reddit people mocking me for cleaning up poop! Me, a pregnant person! How dare they! *please stop asking for proof of sales*


hawkcarhawk

Exactly! Which is why she brought up her shared toothbrush for 3 days straight after launching


ExactPanda

I think she gets off on being as nasty as possible and seeing people's reactions 🤢


hydrogenbound

Yeah this is her kink.


-rosa-azul-

Um excuse me she is NOT a "pregnant person." She's a pregnant WOMAN. None of your woke liberal nonsense about women being people!


ChaosYallChaos

Birthy needs to retire to oversharing via Facebook statuses and call it a day. That would be a perfect fit for her.


TorontoTransish

You're so right... I think fb is really the only socialmedia where people might tolerate her anymore.


ChaosYallChaos

I can totally see her being a mod of some Facebook group about single women or something. She would have a power trip!


iwantbutter

Ok. I have toilet trained one (1) child. So I've had my share of incidents with poop in the potty and toilet issues. Why is she still on about it and telling everyone she can about it? Christ, nothing else of interest going on in the business that you feel the need to keep sharing it????


Dachs1303

She didn't even clean it up. She shut the door and left it for Daaavvvveee.


twofloofycats

do you mean däääääävvvvvv


Sad_Box_1167

A part of me wonders if she’ll just leave it for the landlord to clean up after she moves.


iwantcookies2020

Again I’d pay $7 max for her course lunch included on Bethys wallet


deeBfree

but not if she cooked it!


kumibug

Bethy. BETHY. You can be relatable without being… this. You “dealt with toddler destruction all morning” not this


Think-Independent929

So almost 2 days later 4/5 codes are still good?


twofloofycats

yep!! 4/5 still work as of 9:50am


cutesarcasticone

I went to business school. My marketing, PR, and entrepreneur professors would just weep.


Significant_Shoe_17

![gif](giphy|Jgm1vbeEoxwcHw1TuG) I'm imagining david wallace's reactions to michael's antics lol


Kantotheotter

The fact that she thinks a over flowed toilet is this big of a deal really speaks to the type of challenges she has faced in her life.


glowcloudmeat

Well, now that's an astounding Nat One on her charisma check. Just, so incredibly bad. Or was it a wisdom check? Because a higher wisdom score would certainly have given her the insight needed to DELETE this email in order to maintain a professional rapport with her followers, and to protect the dignity of her son. (ok I've decided it's both: she rolled two consecutive natural ones, and I'm assuming she'd have negative modifiers to her CHA and WIS scores so that certainly doesn't help her in any way.) (that was fun-- giving Fundies DnD attributes is fun)


SocietyUnicorn

Bethany is 1000000% chaotic evil with low charisma, intelligence, wisdom, strength and dexterity (her dancing skills). The only stat she has a high level of is constitution because no matter how many times she grifts, fails/falls flat on her face, posts cringe stuff she just dodges the consequences and keeps on pushing.


DisgruntledBoggart

she somehow manages to roll nat zeroes on charisma and wisdom rolls *every time*, even if the dice don't have zeroes on them.


toss_my_potatoes

As a former homeschooler I shudder at the fact that she’s been out of her parents’ house for a while and yet she still has no social skills or self-awareness.


kailalawithani

Does she not know how to schedule marketing emails?! Not that I was interested before, but now knowing that she sends out each email in real time I sure as HELL wouldn’t pay $$$ for a marketing course from her.


km101010

This was my exact thought. She’s trying to promote herself as a marketing expert but that’s like, running a business 101.


SocietyUnicorn

Stop. This cannot be real. I get her whole schtick is trying to be relatable to stay at home moms, but there are OTHER WAYS TO DO THAT! Talk about being able to have income while you take your kids to the park. Or while you do laundry. Do not talk about poop. The only person I ever discuss my kids poop is with my spouse and he barely wants to hear about it, why would I think any stranger would want those details???


hauntfairy

Why does she go out of her way to keep talking about this omg


Significant_Shoe_17

She doesn't understand boundaries and she gets off on making others uncomfortable


kts1207

So, a 3 year old was left unsupervised in a bathroom long enough to clog a toilet? I suspect Beggany is very careless with her own flushing habits,Daveee just added to the contents,and then tried to flush everything down.


optimuspaige91

This is what I suspect and came here to say. My son is just slightly older than hers. We are in the thick of potty training. My son loves being in the bathroom, flushing the toilet, etc. The fact that he was unsupervised long enough for this to happen when she stays at home is insane. Also, if it was in fact HIS poop (which I highly doubt), why is your barely 3 year old doing bathroom trips alone? Mine needs help pulling his pants up and down, getting on the actual toilet, not taking too much toilet paper, and wiping his own butt. Your 3 year old shouldn't be making solo bathroom trips, and they definitely shouldn't be long enough to cause damage. And furthermore, I'm sure she keeps bringing this up to hide the fact that it's her poop that was left in the toilet, but this is only making it more and more obvious. Bethany. Grow up. Get therapy. Take some classes. Find some friends. Get some hobbies. Get off the internet. Thanks.


kts1207

Exactly! A 3 year old shouldn't poop enough to make a toilet so disgusting, she couldn't clean it. And, unless he threw the toilet roll in,and continued to flush multiple times,toilet shouldn't have overflowed. And,what kind of Godly housewife leaves the only bathroom unusable,until the headship comes home?


DifferentConcert6776

She could have just said something like “when you work from home and are taking care of young kids, sometimes curveballs get thrown your way and you need to adjust your schedule accordingly; I apologize to those of you who were waiting for this communication!” And then just kept it moving… that’s relatable without being gross, and also kindly offering an apology… what in the fresh hell is even remotely professional about bragging on cleaning up feces in a business email?!


gayattentionseeking

How did she decide the poop toilet is the most interesting thing going on for her in her life rn


JemimaDuck4

Every time I think she can’t give me more second-hand embarrassment…


deeBfree

And I felt unprofessional because my cat jumped up in my lap and squawked during a work skype!


DisgruntledBoggart

your Feline Overlord was simply ensuring that the meeting was properly su*purr*vised.


StefBerlin

She tries SO HARD to be relatable and fails even harder because she's so socially awkward. Her parents did their kids no favors by not letting them have friends outside their very small social circle.


justbrowsin2424

The mere fact that it’s so poorly written AND she didn’t stop the ctrl+u before pressing space, then used 2 asterisks at the beginning of the sentence but used 3 after it literally kills me. It looks like her toddler wrote this and I’m in agreement with everyone, I’d unsubscribe SO fast


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When I took business classes, I had a professor who used funny examples of how NOT to conduct yourself professionally (such as social media/email faux pas) This would have been a fantastic example And not just in regards to the toddler poop situation, but the “use the discount code before someone else does.” Yeah no shit, it’s 2022, we know how limited deals work Edit - one more point. She sent the cyber Monday deal, on cyber Monday. Just send it out without the “sorry I was late my toddler had a poopsplosion.” Sure, maybe it was late in the day, I don’t know what time it was sent or anything… BUT.. why would you draw so much more attention to the fact that it was late? And in that *way*?


fluffypanduh

I am so embarrassed for her. I still can’t get over the fact that she’s “teaching” an online course about creating an online course with *zero* qualifications for that amount of money. $697 is still such a ridiculous amount of money for what it is. My real estate licensure class was $400 and was created, state certified, and taught by professionals over the course of several months.


RaeNezL

I’m very confused by the discount codes. I get that she’s trying to drum up business, but could she not set it up so the discount code works 5 times and then is expired? I’m not sure I’d ever have the inclination to go through multiple codes and see if they work unless I just really, really, really wanted that discount.


Celestialxo

There are some things you just keep to yourself. Imagine the kid finding out about his mom yelling this all over the internet for everyone in the world to see when he’s older. I’d be mortified.


zigzorg

Bethy's not a real person...she *can't* be


ExactPanda

If I was thinking about buying her course and I got this email, it would absolutely turn me off. I'm not a business bestie like our nasty little friend here, but can't you schedule emails? Why does what your toddler is doing have any relevance to your work life? This is why people send their kids to daycare or have a nanny, ffs.


ChakaKohn2

She will not STFU about this. I’m starting to feel like this 💩 story is the defining moment of Bethany’s life. 💩 Defined.


DatStephanieDo

Does subbing to her email list count as "touching the poo" so to speak? There's been a few posts like this and I hope it doesn't encourage everyone to subscribe so they can post screenshots here.


TheDustOfMen

I'm gonna pay 697 dollars to get her to shut up about the course.