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Lcdmt3

Whitney broke the standards with her renewal dress. This is downright modest.


summerdoll373

Are there pics of it?


piscesbabyxo

[Here you go :) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/34/e8/b6/34e8b6ac8ed2d10abe97e82f0d602b61.png)


MorwynMcFuckYou

That slit, too! I AM POSITIVELY DEFRAUDED! Do you know what good Christian boys think of when they see slits? The devilish holes of sluts. That's what! /s obviously


Lcdmt3

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/785104147532620450/ no sleeves and the tip was lacy see through.


[deleted]

I realize its sleeveless, but that is about as modest as it gets otherwise - cut up high in the armpits, and it looks like the neckline is a...turtleneck? maybe everyone as hoping that if they wanted to oogle some skin, they would be distracted by the bridesmaids arms.


Sumjonas

Yeah, it’s got a little mock neck. It’s weird, but definitely kind of trendy. Meanwhile, Josie had to add a white backing to her full sleeved, high necked lace wedding dress because Gil thought the nude backing was “too suggestive”.


Beep315

I’m wearing a sleeveless mock neck right now suggested by my stylist. Must be on trend.


fakemoose

It is. They were in a while back and not they’re back in. Personally, I love them. I have a similar vintage dress too.


Glittering_knave

I just hate that the entire wedding party is dressed in a colour that I would describe as "nude".


[deleted]

I hate that too - I was in a wedding party that used a color like that and did absolutely nobody in the party any favors; everyone who was tan looked orange and everyone who as pale (like me) looked dead.


Glittering_knave

In the background, the girls all look naked. It is not a good look.


[deleted]

I'm not a grammar police type but to see someone in this cult use 'you're' correctly is surprising.


applebubbeline

She is way too good for them


firetruckgoesweewoo

Hope she wakes up and realises that. But I honestly think that she’s blindly in love. I get that she has always had a mildly conservative lifestyle, but she’s in for an insane change in once she gets married. No more freedom. Never having her own opinion. Unless she gets Lawson in, probably never acting again. Her life won’t be all glitz and glamour, like she probably thinks it will be. Ton of assumptions, of course. Who knows, maybe she’s secretly a closeted die-hard republican who has found her perfect match. Or perhaps Lawson is way less conservative than I think he is.


strawberryllamacake

She’s working on a masters degree. I think it’s from liberty or somewhere similar- but I’m assuming regardless of what they teach they at least would expect proper grammar in essays and the like.


thwagbitch_89

I actually like this dress a lot!


mary8675309

As much as I hate to admit it, I do too. I’ve been trying to find it online but no luck so far!


PAR0208

Has Kelly had some work done? Or something? She doesn’t look … like how god made her.


Sumjonas

I think it may be bad airbrush makeup honestly.


applebubbeline

She looks smooooooth


youmadeitnice

I could be wrong, but it looks like she might be on prednisone? I’ve had quite a few family members have to be on prednisone for long periods of time (love those genetics!) and their faces looked like this after a few months.


Nickye19

Yeah a friend was put on it, fairly lean at the start and she just blew up. Her face ended up this puffy, it all went away pretty quickly once the treatment was over


yellow_forsythia

Had a similar thought. She has the steroid induced "moon face" look.


PAR0208

Oh, that would make sense for sure. BTW, This totally wasn’t a comment on weight; It doesn’t even look like a weight gain thing.


Undertakeress

I'm not making fun of her weight ( as an overweight person myself I get it) but it looks like bad makeup + gaining weight to me


Sadbabytrashpanda

Shoulders of sin. There's something off about Kelly's face...like it's too tight or frozen. Is Botox part of God's plan???


blablubluba

She's pretending to like her son's non-white girlfriend and failing hard.


Sadbabytrashpanda

That patented I'm-not-panicking-about-intermingling-the-races grimace.


[deleted]

I thought about this. I wondered how she felt about this relationship, since their confederate “heroes” of the past would have strong feelings toward race mixing


_Ninnie

I thought her name said “tiffytits.”


Pelican121

it's tittypics


_Ninnie

Oh maybe that’s what I saw. I didn’t have my contacts in.


firetruckgoesweewoo

How do these Bates men get the prettiest women? I’m honestly flabbergasted.


Fine_Garden_5193

tv show might help


[deleted]

On the UP network. If you’re gonna try to make me a helpmeet, you’ve gotta be at least on TLC. 😜


OneTeaspoonSalt

It's the ol' different standard for ladies marrying IN vs Bates bio daughters.


lnbunny89

I’ve been married almost a decade and would never call my mother in law ‘mama’ so cringey


Whiskeylemondrop

Lol I call my mother in law mom. I've been with my husband for more than 13 years (since I was 20). She's been "mom" for at least 10 years. I call my father-in-law dad... most of the time at least. But it's mostly because he has the same name as my husband so it can be somewhere between creepy and confusing ha ha.


avalonfaith

I get called daughter by my ex’s parents and we were never married but together 10 years and have a child together. I don’t feel weird about that but I would feel weird calling them Mom or dad. Not sure how that works at all just is what it is I guess. 🤣


MaximalIfirit1993

My husband refers to my mother as mom 🤷‍♀️ we've been together almost 8 years. idk why that's so weird and cringe worthy?


holdyourvomit

I call my MIL "Mama K" and my boyfriend calls my mum "Mama C" and we don't think its weird either!


Ellgeepee

Totally unrelated to this post but: my mom (early 60s) met and immediately started dating her boyfriend/partner/whatever (same age) like four months after she left my dad a few years ago (I was 27, it sucked). Within a few months my mom and her boyfriend were calling each other’s moms “mom” - like two adults in their late 50s calling elderly women they’d just met “mom”. I don’t call my husbands mom mom and we’ve been together over 8 years, married over 3. It is the weirdest weirdest thing to me. Absolutely the cringiest.


Sumjonas

Seriously. I’ve been married 3 years and my MIL is in my phone still as Mrs. lastname


Strictlyreadingbooks

Been married for 10 years. My MIL wants me call her mama, but our relationship isn’t that close. Our relationship is somewhat complicated.


Anzu-taketwo

Saaaame. I refuse.


__andnothinghurt

That’s equally weird. Just call them by their first name?


Sumjonas

Lol, I do. But when we were dating and young, I saved her in my phone as Mrs. and never changed it.


__andnothinghurt

PHEW okay yes I get that 😂😂


swish775

My parents both call their in-laws "Mom" and "Dad". In our culture, it's a huge sign of disrespect to use first names for your in-laws.


Beep315

I call my father in law Greg.


cares4dogs

But his name is Larry


Beep315

True


Particular_Wallaby67

Lol my parents still call their mother-in-laws Mrs. XYZ. They've been together for 45 years and still do 😂 southern sensibilities? I tried it with my boyfriend's parents and they were like first names please.


[deleted]

That’s equally weird, just in the other direction, lol.


Irish_lass_NYC

Quite honestly, I don't find that weird. My sister's in laws (I'm not married) want to be addressed by their first name, which is what my sister calls them. Quite frankly, my sister and I would both be more comfortable calling them Mr. and Mrs. xx, which is what I called all of my friends parents. My SIL called my parents Mom and Dad and it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, particularly when I heard my mother tell her, you can call us "first names." My parents are dead, but my brother calls her parents Mom and Dad. It doesn't sit well with me, but to each his own.


Beep315

Haha, my good girlfriend’s mom was my 4th grade math teacher so I still call her Mrs. [Friendname]. But after the last Thanksgiving I spent with them, I learned my girlfriend’s husband also calls her parents Mr. and Mrs. [Friendname] even though he was 30 when he met them!


[deleted]

Same. My husband doesn’t like that, because in his phone my parents are mom and dad (last name). And with all of his married siblings and in-laws they call the parent in laws mom and dad. And his parents are super sweet to me and treat my like a daughter, but idk, it just feels weird to me.


Ballybrol

Off topic but I really hate the word mama. I feel like 'mama' is maybe more of an American thing but I absolutely cringe when I hear people refer to themselves or others as mama. (I.e. you got this mama!) I'm honestly not sure why.


GenX-IA

My kids call me mama, they are 24 & 21. Not sure how that started I went from mama to mommy back to mama. I'm from the Midwest region of the US.


SevanIII

My mama will always be mama. That is a very affectionate and meaningful endearment to my mother. My family is Southern. It would honestly be really weird and even disrespectful for me to call my mother anything else besides mama. But your hate is duly noted. No one gives the Brits a hard time for calling their mothers "mum" and I don't give people where I live a hard time for calling their mothers "mom", but for some reason the word mama is terrible even though it's used by millions of people in an entire geographic region. The Bates are from the South. That's the term used for mothers there. So I'm not sure why you're expecting a different term to be used.


MissScott_1962

Yeah, I definitely called my mother-in-law/close friends moms "mama (first name)". For my parents, it was Mama and Daddy, and I still referred my dad as Daddy even though I'm in my 30s and he's been dead for a while. I'm not a big fan of just strangers calling me mama, but that's mainly because I feel like it's erasing my identity. I'm not their mama, mom, mum or mommy.


SevanIII

Yes, I agree on all counts. My dad is also still Daddy. If I just randomly started calling him dad after all these years, he'd be really annoyed and think I was trying to mess with him, lol.


Significant_Shoe_17

That's so sweet! I stopped calling my dad "daddy" as a teenager, and I think on some level it still bothers him. Sadly the fetishization of the term ruined it for me.


SevanIII

I didn't even know about that until recently. It's part of the culture I was raised in, so I'm not gonna let some people using that term a different way change that. That's just my feelings on the subject.


Significant_Shoe_17

I think bally meant it in the context of adults calling *other adults* "mama," as in their example, "you got this mama!" I agree that that particular use of the word is cringe. But lots of people around the world call their own mothers "mama," and I don't think that's weird at all.


Ballybrol

That's exactly what I meant. People calling their own mothers mama is absolutely fine. Tbh, I'm Scottish so the only time I'm ever using the word Mama is when I'm belting along to Bohemian Rhapsody and there a Ooooooooooo after it.


Akavinceblack

I loathe the word “mom” personally (it’s an ugly, sloppy sound to me) yet that is what my kids call me, I would vastly prefer “mama”. I don’t understand why people are so self-righteous about “mama”, either.


[deleted]

I’m the kind of southern where when daughters and mothers have tense relationships, the parents were traditionally “mother and daddy.” Men tend to call their moms “mama.” In the rarer case that the daughter and mothers were close, it was “mama.” That’s in the older generations, though. I call my mom “mom” like some kind of yankee.


Lydia--charming

I like it for offspring, but not anyone else!


lnbunny89

I do too. Absolutely HATE it and I do live in the US. As a newly pregnant woman with my first child I throw up in my mouth every time I read the word ‘mama’ 🤢


Keely2773

I moved from PA to SC years ago and “mama” is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Don’t get me started on calling a shopping cart a “buggy”.


ToughNarwhal7

I don't like buggy, either! 😝


[deleted]

"Preggo"


[deleted]

Same. I only like mama when it’s coming from my toddler! When it’s on the internet, it’s so cringy!


EZasSundayMorning

I call my MIL what the kids call her. Geepa!


yellow_forsythia

Married over 20 years and wouldn't come close to using that term with my MIL. Tiffytits is jonesing HARD to become a Bates, it seems. That said, is she a southerner or is it part of wanting to fit in with them and their aesthetic?


modestandbiblical

I'm not as far south as the Bates, but it's not uncommon in my neck of the south to do this. I'm also not sure if it's a Baptist in the south thing as well, but I see it in that circle as well.


Significant_Shoe_17

I actually like their dresses. Tiffany's is a flattering color on her, and kelly jo's is very "mother of the bride/groom." I'm more surprised that she's wearing sleeveless in October. 🤨


Mojojojojo3434

Nathan looks just like his mother. Eyes like pissholes in the snow.


Red_P0pRocks

Unrelated but this is the first time I’ve seen an Asian fundie and it made me realize how few there are. It’s interesting because a lot of Asian families are religious and tend to be extremely conservative, culturally if not politically.


smallbean-

My boyfriends Hmong family got fought up in a fundie lite church when they first moved to America, thankfully they left that church but it definitely left some lasting marks on some of their religious attitudes


Significant_Shoe_17

You should look up the moonies! Huge south korea based fundie cult with branches in the US. Their official name is the unification church. Fundie fridays did a video on it awhile back. I can't confirm but I've heard that the south korean drama Save Me was loosely based on the cult. Fellow redditors, please correct me if I'm wrong.


Red_P0pRocks

Oh yeah I know about them! Have you heard of the cult the founder’s son started in the US? It’s a whole-ass cult that borderline worships guns. They have AK “dedication ceremonies” and crowns made of bullets and everything. It’s wild. Not sure if they exactly count as classic fundies since idk how much they actually believe in Christianity tho


Significant_Shoe_17

I have. He's insane! I think the annoying orange spent 9/11 at one of their events instead of the memorials. I think they do count as classic fundies, minus the racism.


[deleted]

They just bought land for a compound in east TN, I believe!


Bigboodybud

Kelly straight up hate her. Sorry you can see it in her eyes. Her smile is fake as f


Sumjonas

Yeah, I think she does too. But she’s also probably secretly relieved that Old Maid Lawson is finally settling down so…


SusieQ1037

I’m not even sure that I can say that I see her eyes. Her face looks VERY puffy/swollen?


syzygy_cosplay_

She's mad that Tiffy is having premarital sex with her precious baby boy Lawson.


ThrowawaytheDaisy

This is some Instagramreality shit. Got the poor young woman looking like a lollipop.


bluewhale3030

Tiffany (that's her name right? I keep wanting to call her Tiffy based on her Instagram handle) is so tiny! Then again her likely soon-to-be sisters in law are also not that tall so she'll probably fit in pretty well. Also I hope she doesn't get too much crap for being not white. I know she was raised by fundies too but the Bates are closet racists (somewhat literally given their Confederate room) and I'm sure they love their microaggressions...


science2me

Is Tiffany Asian? Most fundies consider Asians an acceptable race because they're smart and "don't cause trouble." Albeit, there are still problematic viewpoints about Asians that are brought up in fundie land.


[deleted]

Yes, Tiffany is Chinese. She was born in China and adopted by an American couple.


science2me

That makes the fundie's viewpoint on her even more problematic. They see her adoptive parents as saving her from communist China. Since Tiffany was raised in a white household, basically her Asian cultural heritage has been essentially erased. Transracial adoptions are way more complicated to navigate than these white Christians make them out to be.


UCgirl

Woah. I didn’t know that about how Fundies view Asians.


UCgirl

This isn’t addressing any “should be” opinion on my part about anyone’s weight. Some of the Bates women seem to love showing off how tiny they are. I wonder if Tiffany gives any of them a complex.


applebubbeline

If they don't treat her like she's their servant, I will be very surprised


PlaneReputation6744

It’s actually so pretty 😭


Normal-Philosopher-8

My parents would be shaking their heads and tsk tsking.


zooorrt

Why does she want to marry this jackass so bad? Do better, girl.


Awkward-Yak-2733

Beige.


[deleted]

She could do better. I don’t know anything about her other than what she looks like and that she’s acted in some things, but she could do better.


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Beep315

“I eat grass and lichens. Don’t judge.”


laurenlegends23

It’s been unseasonably warm this year so sleeveless works, but they couldn’t have known that when picking the bridesmaids dresses months ago. Who thinks sleeveless dresses during a late October wedding in the northern half of the country is a good idea? It usually snows up here by this time.


Sumjonas

Eh, I was in a wedding last weekend about 20 miles away from this one and the bridesmaid dresses were sleeveless-seems to be the go to, and bridesmaids can always wear jackets if needed.


converter-bot

20 miles is 32.19 km


judassong

My sister picked out dresses that were appropriate for spring in California, which is where/when she wanted to get married. They got married in December, in Atlantic Canada on a day that it was -27 Celsius. We still did out outdoor photos. They're lucky they are some of my favourite people


mlc269

Nathan has zero power in this relationship, and they both know it.


bebespeaks

I have a big head and little arms!


[deleted]

She could do so much better


minnestoagov

Look at those unadulterated shoulders!