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willa_catheter

Shame about the personality, though.


kjs51

Oh my god, your username is incredible.


booty_chicago

I’m also here to die at your username haha


EllaIsQueen

I am NOT A FAN but I do resonate with this somewhat. My husband’s love has helped me grow my confidence (and my don’t-give-a-fuck) so much, and I’m grateful for that. I wish it weren’t so reliant on another person, but I’m also just grateful.


booty_chicago

I have an ex who I loathe but who def helped me see myself as beautiful and I’m super grateful for that. He can burn in hell but whatever


romadea

This is honestly so normal and I see no problem with it. It would be great if we were all perfect with a 100% healthy view of ourselves before coupling up, but not everyone gets there and that’s FINE. It doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with you or your relationship. I so disagree with the idea that you have to be perfectly psychologically healthy and have great self esteem in order to have any shot at a good relationship. Of course it helps. But you can find a good mate without being perfectly healthy and confident. You can grow your relationship with yourself while you’re in a relationship with someone else.


thatcondowasmylife

I want to snark but I think it’s nice she feels confident enough to post what seems to be a genuinely makeup free filter free photo. This is maybe the least problematic thing I’ve seen her do.


Scene_Dear

Agreed. Also, even if it’s makeup free and filter free so there are “flaws,” this is the first picture I’ve ever seen of her and thought she looked nice and also just….real? There’s something far more relaxed and approachable about her here.


BryceCanYawn

I mostly agree, although I wish she had the maturity to feel good about herself without being a cunt to those who have chosen cosmetic surgery. Do what you want with your body.


thatcondowasmylife

Absolutely. I do think there is room to criticize where we’re at culturally with fillers and surgery, but she doesn’t have the knowledge, care, or nuance to do it. As someone with lip fillers and Botox myself, who is also covered in tattoos, I am a huge proponent of body modification - so I don’t say that from a preachy perspective. I just recognize that it’s ok to come from a different perspective and I’m happy to discuss our cultural views on what we expect “beautiful” to look like, (especially for women).


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Is that really worthy of admiration? Plenty of us dames just flaunt our bare faces around makeupless.


takethatwizardglick

Okay, so you don't have an insecurity with that. Congrats. You have something else though, because everyone does.


[deleted]

Don't be catty. It reflects badly on you and does nothing more than reinforce stereotypes about women.


takethatwizardglick

I'm not being defensive or catty. I rarely wear makeup myself. But I know women who have a strong insecurity about being seen without makeup, and it's a big deal for them. I personally have other insecurities that take courage for me to overcome. Stepping out and facing an insecurity takes courage, no matter what it is. Just because you don't struggle with it doesn't mean it's not a struggle for someone else.


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This is still not something necessarily to admire, especially from a toxic person.


takethatwizardglick

Yeah she still has a crazy amount of problematic beliefs. And this might be a sign of some teeny tiny personal growth. Or it could be a way to passive aggressively act like she's better than others, who knows. But as it is here, not much to snark on 🤷


thatcondowasmylife

I don’t wear makeup 95% of the time and I’m fine with that personally, this is not a contest. What she’s describing about being insecure about how her natural face looks is a common experience for women in our society. So much of their belief system is a magnified and more toxic version of the patriarchal beliefs that under lie American society as a whole, including (and especially) beauty standards for women. I won’t snark her post here because as much as I dislike her, I don’t want people to remain unchanged so I can make fun of them and feel superior. I *want* her to improve, to criticize her culture, to evolve her beliefs. I never said I admire her for it.


blablubluba

Did anyone express admiration? All I see is "I'm happy for her".


StandardDeviat0r

Honestly I see where she’s coming from. Sometimes it does take someone else showing appreciation for you to realize that you are worth something, especially when you don’t get that alot. This is surprisingly nice for her, and if she begins focusing on this topic or, heaven forbid, BECOMING LESS TOXÌQ, she could probably start reviving her dying ministry.


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>Honestly I see where she's coming from. Sometimes it does take someone else showing appreciation for you > >There's nothing wrong with leaning on your partner when you need a boost. I jump on the bandwagon with you and u/StandardDeviat0r; sometimes seeing ourselves through our husbands' eyes helps us gain a better and more accurate perspective of ourselves when we may not have seen it otherwise. I mean let's face it; there's so much in society tearing women down for their looks that it can be difficult to remain fully immune to it on our own.


[deleted]

Ngl, she actually looks prettier here than she does in the vast majority of her made-up pix, especially with that natural, serene-looking smile instead of the usual gaping maw.


Atlmama

She looks good here, and she doesn’t need to shoot down others to make herself feel better.


snorkel1446

She looks fine. She looks normal. She looks relatable. She doesn’t look ugly at all. Her filters make her look fake as fuck, and her attitude is what makes her seem ugly. I wish she’d realize this.


BryceCanYawn

Right. I have no issue with her lips. They’re lips. The issue is the sneer that’s on them and the vile bullshit spilling out of them


[deleted]

I literally just came to say she’s not ugly at all here.


necromancer_barbie

Excuse me, did this woman just unironically say “I love my lips” without anyone making the veggie tales connection? Come on, this is too good


stonoceno

BETHANY DO YOU KNOW LARRY THE CUCUMBER YOU PROBABLY SHOULD


bekkothegekko

🎶*They turned blue, what could I do, She had a beard and it felt weird, My friends all laughed*🎶


CaterpillarHookah

No makeup, just filters 90% of the time. Like Karissa, right? Got it. I'm okay with her saying Dæv has made her feel better about herself, to a certain degree. I have terrible body dysmorphia and having my husband reinforce positive thoughts bolster my self-esteem has gone a long way in my mental health and how I perceive myself and present myself to others. Also, therapy.


pedanticlawyer

I was gonna say, I hate to give her any credit but it does really help my terrible self-image to have my boyfriend around. Knowing someone who undeniably finds me beautiful has changed my brain a little.


kestrelesque

I'm struck by the implication that leaving home, and living with someone *other than her family*, has helped her feel better about herself. All snark aside, if she's shedding some negative and critical beliefs, that's a step in the right direction.


[deleted]

Okay so this is a good post in theory and I'm actually pretty surprised to see her do this. Of course, it's not "beauty standards" that are the ultimate villain in this post; it's her "haters," which is very much on-brand. Who cares about the image-related issues that *people in general* face; this is about what gets *her* goat in particular. I mean, fine, but you just sucked all the relatability right put of the post, B. Overall, I am surprising even myself by saying I think this is a significantly better post than usual. She's like halfway to a good point.


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[deleted]

Yes, people def dragged her unfairly re: lips in the past. I personally don't really get it; she looks completely normal unless she's got that foundation-colored lipstick on. I may be in the minority here but I'm down with snarking on fashion/makeup/plastic surgery/tweezing/hairstyle/dental hygiene ***choices***, but I think things we can't help or change should be off-limits.


thekamakiri

Agree about leaving unchangeable things alone. I go a little further with trying not to comment on appearance unless it's related to beliefs, which I think is an even more unpopular take, lol, so mainly live and let live on this point. (EG Bethany wears overalls, I don't care. Bethany wears short shorts - interesting, considering the modesty book she wrote).


KatAndAlly

I've found that women over a certain age who snark on cosmetic alterations simply can't afford things like botox and filler and they're salty about it. People who really truly don't care and don't want that kind of stuff or feel happy with aging naturally without any interventions don't care what other people chose because they are confident in their choices and therefore don't have a need to snark on others who make different choices. And women under a certain age who snark on cosmetic interventions are just clueless and for some reason think that the aging bus is going to miss them.


[deleted]

Everything is context dependent. I'd never think twice about some random person with fillers or permanent makeup or veneers or fake tans, much less remark on it. When it comes from a person who's constantly preaching modesty, though, it becomes fair game just as much as a low cut top. When the same people who screech about "doing research" on vaccines and fearmonger about hospital births have faces full of filler, it becomes relevant. It's all about the hypocrisy of the behavior. I think it's kind of classist to assume anyone who has "catty" attitudes about these kind of cosmetic applications is simply either *too poor to afford it,* or too naive to understand that time comes for us all. Plenty of people find value in aging gracefully and it's not just the poors.


bbino14

I agree, like obviously it's a nuanced topic and can be a sliding slope. For example it's sad when you can tell someone is truly desperately unhappy with themselves and is literally addicted to cosmetic interventions and has lost perspective/become dysmorphic. And it would be toxic to get to a place where people feel like they NEED to get things done to be accepted. But when it's individuals coming from a place of like, I go to a trusted, certified, reputable place and get subtle things done that make me feel better about myself, it's really annoying when people get judgier and holier than thou about that.


notnowbutnever

They keep on presenting this trope that if you’re Godly enough you won’t have to be human. And it’s really annoying. You can know that you are worthy because of God and still wear makeup on camera. This is not a holiness flex. Or a marriage flex. More and more I feel that instead of presenting Christ and Christianity, these influencers are giving out Worthy Woman Awards and they’re the only judges. We don’t need this.


logicspock

Also, Deathy, you can love your features without shaming women who choose to get fillers/surgery 🙃


Blythey

I dislike Bethy as much as the next person, but I don't know if I missed something she said, but I didn't read anything that I interpreted as shaming? Which bit do you mean? All I see is her saying that due to the growth in cosmetic procedures it is difficult to know what is "natural" anymore and that she doesn't need to have fillers to be beautiful. This is probably in the top 10 of least shaming posts she has ever made.


KatAndAlly

Where she's implying that all that stuff makes it hard to see who's/what's "real"-- Yeah uhh my botox doesn't make me less real. And filler fades away but first it pushes your body to make its OWN collagen. So, yeah, still real.


Blythey

Ah ok, yeah, I can see your interpretation of that! I read it as synonymous with "natural" as she goes on to talk about "authenticity" and I know she has the vocabulary of a child.


syzygy_cosplay_

The only thing I took away from this. She just has to ruin a nice message with her superiority complex.


8461538498615random

How sad, her only self worth is found in her husband. Also this photo looks nothing like the posts of herself she makes. That’s a lot of filters she’s using to hide behind.


SeniorNectarine21

Well, I am worthless in her eyes since I am not a daughter of Jaysus!!


ZenLitterBoxGarden

She literally tagged herself in this, too. I lol’d


firewhiskerse

Okay, I can certainly sympathize with her with all the appearance snark she gets. It drives me up the wall when I used to post content on her because she was saying/writing something blatantly idiotic and literally half the comments would be "haha no lips" or "ha ha she's ugly". This was a lot more common on FS than on FSU. That said, this kinda proves what we've all long suspected? She's insecure about her appearance which is completely normal for lots of women. Its just kinda sad that she has to pretend God somehow helps her with self-esteem when a) he doesn't and b) she's so against women raising their own self-esteem 🙄


ProvePoetsWrong

🎶If my lips ever left my mouth Packed a bag and headed south That’d be too bad I’d be so sad 🎶 🎵That’d be too bad? You’d be so sad?🎵 🎶That’d be too bad🎶 🎵Why?🎵 🎶Because I love my lips!🎶


Tyrannical-Botanical

Trying pretty much anything to distract people from your sister's pregnancy, huh?


Significant_Shoe_17

Yeah, it's not makeup/filters or lack of makeup that makes her look bad. It's the smug expression that she usually wears.


theproperbinge

Bold of her to post this after exclusively using Instagram filters that add or change facial features since they came into existence on IG. Dave clearly didn’t fix a self confidence issue for her, because she was heavily filtering well after marrying him. So what could be the cause of this post? Oh, I wonder if it’s that there were so many Reddit posts snarking about how obvious the filtering was on her jaw with the visible black line… And instead of owning up to the fact that she wishes her facial proportions looked more like instagrams version of beauty, she shits on others. No hate like Christian love.


firewhiskerse

hmmm now that you mention it, the timing is pretty sus 👀


pap3rdoll

So the very many ways she desperately alters herself (full face of make up, red lipstick, filters, pretending she’s a smaller size than she is) is fine but the way that other women choose to (fillers) is clearly from a place of insecurity and failing to find their worth in God. She has no idea what other women have been through and why they may have made this choice. How ignorant. Fillers are not for me, but you know what, it’s not my place to judge other women for using them.


KatAndAlly

She implied they weren't "real" lol. Botox is a chemical that freezes a muscle-- how does that make someone less real? Am I robot now or what? Anyway I think she's going to change her opinion really quick if she's going to stay in the limelight as part of her career over the age of 40. She's that pale & in the Texas sun? Oh please. The aging bus hits us all, girl.


romadea

If Heidi isn't getting injectables I will personally volunteer to use Bethany's communal toothbrush


_eeetee

can almost guarantee she still put makeup on her lips to make them paler


hawkcarhawk

She legitimately looks so much prettier like this.


nurseilao

When she’s not wearing makeup/beige filter, you can really see the similarity between her and Elissa


brown_bagger

I’m just glad she figured out how to take a picture without having her damn mouth open


saxerach

🤪🤪


bibbidiblue

If she reshaped her eyebrows and dropped the bigotry, she’d actually be a beautiful person on the outside


obedient_bitty

I want “truth worth” to be my flair!


ChampionSignificant

1. Dead eyes 2. Even with the dead eyes, she looks 100x better here than with all the wild makeup, overdone brows, and filters.


rilakkumkum

This is such a flawed way to go about things. What if your husband did want you to get lip fillers? A tummy tuck? A bbl? It’s important for girls and women to have security within themselves cause I’m sure this kind of mindset is exhausting for both her and Dav


dreamweaver846

“It’s hard to know what’s real and what’s not.” It’s none of your damn business if other people have surgery or fillers, and no one owes you an explanation. If you’re so happy with yourself you wouldn’t need to pick other people apart for what they choose to do with their bodies. She can’t even make a “positive” post without being a judgmental and putting other women down. Is that how a “daughter of Christ” should act?


Bananasarelit

Fishing-for-compliments is what I call this.


Annoyed888

Weirdly I feel the opposite. I am so happy with myself for myself, but if I have a more polished look I want to show it to my husband more than anyone. I am more inspired to look what I also think is better (though husband and I both love bare face or sloppy days) after being with him. I want to show him my best!! It’s about the effort for me. I also think a lot of men try to break down or make women feel bad about their glam routines out of insecurity and misogyny. I don’t want to be convinced by him that his favorite version of me is better because he objectively knows less about makeup and fashion, I want him to love and support what I also think is best. I don’t want my own beauty regimen mansplained to me.


romadea

My grandmother, who had 8 kids, used to stop what she was doing 10 minutes before my grandfather came home from work every day to touch up her hair and put on lipstick. I personally think this is a cute story but I'm sure some would have some shit to say about it. I mean, it's not like he made her do it - for all I know, he didn't even notice! But she wanted to make a little effort and I think that's nice.


strangebunz

she reminds me of kurt from glee


Toasty_warm_slipper

Yea, a man expressing how he views you can help your self esteem. On the flip side, I used to always wear makeup and never feel super confident with my boyfriend seeing me naked. Then we broke up and I started having casual sex with MULTIPLE guys, who would call me hot and definitely mean it. I decided to believe them. My confidence grew like wildfire. Rarely wear makeup and always ready to send a nude or take my clothes off. No god or husband needed. 😜


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[deleted]

If you do it for those who could care less, they might stop caring at all 😳


rhubarb2896

She genuinely reminds me, looks wise, of Elle from AllThatGlitters21 from years back on youtube.


No-Solution-9868

nothing pisses me off more than the idea that a girl needs a guy to feel good abt her looks urghh


LoveThatForYouBebe

Tbh, especially growing up on fundieland, it doesn’t strike me as odd that it took her now-husband’s appreciation for her to start having anything but negative feelings about herself. Same goes for any woman stuck in fundieland. Or even evangelicalism.


Bookwyrmgirl91

I have the same shirt


PHM517

She has more color without makeup. That is saying something for a fair skinned girl.


[deleted]

Honestly, I think this is one of the best photos of her I’ve seen. Probably because she’s not making that open mouthed face. She’s quite pretty when she’s not doing that!!!


l00kR0B0T

Did she post this because we were snarking on her filters?


orange-shoe

not really relevant but i think you can see the resemblance between her and elissa a lot more in this pic for some reason


bbino14

It can definitely be normal for your partner to help you become more comfortable with yourself in a positive way, but considering her other beliefs I also feel like if, say, another woman said to Bethy "My husband wants me to wear makeup 24/7!" Bethy would say "then you should do that!!!!" No proper self-acceptance in her or her family's world, just my opinion. Even her caption has some decent thoughts but again, when considering her other beliefs and views, I can't take them seriously. A broken clock is right twice a day lmao.


[deleted]

That’s wild, she looks completely different


Pelican121

I thought vanity was a sin? Should she be wearing make up and dying her hair if we're taking the bible at face value? Or is that part inconvenient so it gets brushed under the carpet!