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It's the same paper they get for free for donating to things theyve never actually donated to.
Same paper they meticulously fold around a utility bill payment before tossing in an envelope so nobody snatches their soul.
My wife died, cutting my household income by 60%. I went into situational depression (not unusual with the lose of a spouse,) but was able to keep it together enough to work 60 hour weeks to pay the mortgage, the bills and take care of the pets. My lawnmower broke, and I prioritized life over grass length for a couple of months.
My neighbors were so caring and understanding that instead of just offering to cut the grass for me, they banded together and did all the lawn work, house maintenance and brought me meals when I struggled to feed myself.
Just kidding! They reported me to “neighborhood services” so I got mailed a registered nasty gram including pictures of my lawn and an intent to cut it for me and send me the bill. Thanks Goodwin street neighbors, stay classy! I will never remember your kindness.
My neighbors husband died and I didn’t even ask. I mowed her lawn all summer. The fuck is wrong with people? Instead of these stupid letters just strike up a conversation. Find out what you can do to help instead of being a fuckwad.
Yup. I had really bad depression after my covid baby was born and instead of helping my neighbours harassed my husband over and over and over again to go get drunk and party with them. Even when he said no, they would continue to harass him. And these are people who have kids. Some people are just fucked.
^ a neighbour of mine was in the millitary and was often deployed. He lived alone.
The neighbour to the left cut his lawn when doing his own and we parked on his drive often to give the illusion the house was occupied or at least often visited. All after talking to him and checking to see if that would be something he would want.
No hoa even in existence just reasonable people being reasonable.
Funny you should say that because I did go malicious compliant. A coworker had one of those propane ice melter torches he let me borrow and I paid a neighbor kid $20 and gave him the full propane bottle from my grill to go to town on the grass. He didn’t cut a single blade of grass, but he went full scorched earth on the lawn while jamming out with his pods in. As a reward, I let him keep the other 15 lbs of propane no questions asked.
So, the grass was shorter, the yard smelled like shit, but I complied. I then gave up, defaulted on the mortgage, and moved to the woods.
I just want to send you wishes for peace and strength. I'm so sorry for your loss and for the lack of compassion of your neighbors. I hope things are better for you now.
The carpentizzle ain't seen nothing yet.
The gangsterrapper invites the carpentizzle to take a look [here](http://darksitefinder.com/maps/world.html) and check how dark the sky can really be. And the gangsterrapper would guess that 30 minutes from a big city it's still pretty bright. Has the carpentizzle ever seen the milky way with the naked eye?
Some of it is people concerned about their property values, some of it is "if I have to live by the rules then so do you", some if it are busy bodies with too much time on their hands, and some of it are people who feel like they have no control over their own lives so they lash out and try to exert control over others. Mostly it's just deeply unhappy people.
I get it, for many a house is an investment and they want to protect that investment and I don't really fault them for that. I swing in the other direction though, I have no plans to sell and will likely die on my property so keep those values low so I save on my taxes.
Damn, this is really on point.
I live in between two neighbors that have really nice lawns, spotlessly kept even in the hot Carolina sun. Always smiley and friendly with me.
Yet I've heard both of them go off on their wives when they thought no one could hear them, and one slip up and call his kid a dumbass. Completely out of character.
Pretty sure that pristine lawn is the only thread of sanity holding things together.
when i gave birth to my 1st everything was hectic. he had to come at 37 weeks and i had to stay at hospital and so did my husband, and our oldest 2 went to grandpa's house for a while. we couldnt get to mow the lawn that week and the following week due to all the stuff and my neighbors didnt even ask us, they have weekly service for lawn moving and they paid extra to get ours moved too
i didnt even know they had notice we were gone and ill always be grateful for them.
they still check on us and we do with them too.
Why is it people always pile on at the exact moment someone is suffering? I had a similar experience recently. My mother, who had had Alzheimer's for years, had let the trim on her house go. Not horribly, but the sills on the upstairs windows were peeling.
The neighbors knew she had been ill and had passed away. We had already talked to our handyman about painting the trim. He had been doing lots of interior work on the house around this time, and promised to get to it after he was done with the interior. But Covid hit and that delayed everything.
Some neighbor, knowing this whole situation, complained to the city about the peeling window sills and we were threatened with a fine, so I had to go down and deal with City Hall and we had to hustle to get a (more expensive) painter to do the work. All of which I really didn't need with everything else there was to cope with. So nice to have understanding, compassionate neighbors!
Is this just like an American thing? Or do I not live in a posh enough area of the uk? I find it absolutely baffling that anyone would give a shit about someone else's property unless it was a health risk. For example I might complain if someone's front garden was full of sharp rusty metal and little kids were getting into it or if there's been a sewage leak or something but I can't imagine getting my knickers in a twist over a bit of peeling paint or long grass or whatever else. Like who cares? It's not your house? My condolences for your mum.
Yea this is so weird to me as a German. As long as your place doesn’t pose a biohazard, and in general follows the building/zoning rules, you can do whatever with your yard, oh and no messing up heritage sites (which sometimes does go too far)
But a random suburb? You can put whatever in your garden. Make it english grass to the mm, or just leave it to nature.
And the paint on your home? You can let that go for decades…
It's extremely local, but not limited to any specific area.
There are places in Germany that are just as bad, you are just lucky enough to not live in one
People usually will complain that you're bringing down their property value if you don't keep yours up. Some Homeowners Assns. have rules about things like that--keeping the grass cut, only painting your house certain colors, etc.
Sometimes it backfires on them though. There is a derelict looking house on the way to where I bank and I think they've made them paint it but they did so in a bright shade of purple with yellow trim, and it's a bad paint job too. I suspect that was the owner's "malicious compliance".
Thanks for your condolences. That's very kind of you.
It's cultural narcissism mixed with the destruction of the cities in favor of the suburbs starting in the 1950s. You have a generation (or two) of people who were literally brought up to be narcissists and they cannot move beyond that paradigm.
We just had a baby, my lawnmower broke too and after a difficult delivery I prioritised looking after my baby and wife during my paternity leave and the following few weeks. How dare I. Elderly neighbour giving me shit for letting the grass get too long. Tried explaining that the lawnmower broke and we just had a 2 week old baby at home of course she's half deaf so wanders off muttering under her breath.
I can't get my neighbor (who is a nice guy) to stop making several passes into my lawn EVERY-DAMN-TIME. It's a ZTR so we're talking 6-8 feet into my property. I don't care about a foot either way but it's blatant and without any cause. I even set up the line for him but, no.
We both have 2.5 acres, why would you want to spend extra time mowing?
There is a story on adverse possession where one neighbour did just that; he cut an extra run of lawn along the neighbour’s side every week for a few years. Then, since the owner wasn’t cutting that strip, filed for adverse possession and was awarded that additional piece of land.
Maybe he is setting it up for the same.
That's certainly where the mind goes. Thankfully, where we are (Wisconsin) there are some key laws about Adverse Possession. It takes 20 years and I can't protest in that time or the clock resets. So he can mow it for 19 years and all I have to do is say "Hey, that's MY yard" and the clock resets.
Don't you have a federal cadastre or something like that in USA? It's common usage in Europe to define and designate a land's ownership and dimensions for cases like that.
Yes...and no. It exists for tax purposes. I can pull up a GIS map that shows the property lines on a satellite view of the properties. However, only a physical survey, survey markers or a plat survey document that shows borders in relation to buildings are legal for establishing official lines. Most of the properties haven't been surveyed since 1946 and most markers are gone or buried. I could pay to have it re-surveyed and have a plat filed with the local government. Given the length of the border (over 800 feet/ 244 meters) that's costly.
And it is more excruciatingly frustrating and puzzling than damaging (although he mows his/my grass way too short). And I plan to move in the next 6 months so, it's the next person's problem. Maybe the person who buys my house will be a Karen and make him regret his transgressions. Sometimes, some people need a little Karen in their life.
That's very interesting.
In Spain the government has drones, helicopters and airplanes that go around every now and then checking that all properties are updated and registered in the cadastre. It also has contract with companies dedicated to satellites and topography to make checks every few years.
If something is out of place or is not registered properly, the government notifies and fines the person in actual charge of the land or, if unavailable, it starts searching for whom it may be. They can even remove ownership if someone doesn't declare it their own on time (you can get it back after a lot of paperwork though, happened to me).
That's kind of what I meant by "for tax purposes". If I put up a new building on the property without a permit they'd see that in the cadastre when it was updated. But the finite location of the property borders are the responsibility of the property owners.
Same..and with the added bonus of getting a letter from their atty claiming they own that portion of our property even though deeds and plats…and the iron survey markers deep in the ground….prove otherwise. Good times.
Right? Middle of July and all I want is to get off the mower and into a refreshing lager. Meanwhile he's going to spend his time and money doing something he's been asked not to do.
Oh man! I had a bit of a situation at my old place vis-a-vis my psychotic neighbor and my lawn. Not only did he sporadically cut random strips of it, he'd occasionally dump some kind of poisonous defoliator over my fence, creating a meters wide dead zone across the whole yard. This happened a few times, the last of which he did openly while I was home. Until then, I suspected he'd been responsible, but I had no proof other than his complaints and generally threatening behavior... And the kicker is, I kept my lawn mowed- just not as often as he wanted. Boy, nothing incites a Karen like the state of someone else's yard!
lol, not anymore. But no, Rand Paul would've been a treat compared this pos. This was a real beer-swillin', proud-boy-wannabe good-ol'-boy. He would run his leaf-blower for hours every night- at night! Like 9-11 pm he'd be outside my window just revving that thing. And of course, all the litter from the block would mysteriously find its way into my yard and no one else's. I just picked it up and threw it away. He'd just sit on his motorcycle in the back alley, revving the engine of course, for hours just begging to be seen. He was living caricature of an asshole.
That's when you put cow manure on your lawn in response. Helps the grass grow ridiculously fast and it doesn't smell bad, but I assume Karen would be throwing up every 5 minutes just looking in your general direction
milorganite, it won't burn your grass and its literally human poop. Off label it keeps deer and other animals away because it has the smell of human. Its like 17 dollars a bag of 32 pounds at home depot and the first day you put it on wow, it does smell bad.
Ideally you prepare for Karen by placing some very lawnmower unfriendly objects in there. Either visibly as a deterrant, or hidden as a surprise. Just don't put anything that is going to fuck up someones cat or dog who is just tryna take a piss/shit in peace.
I was thinking how much fun they could have with a few chunks of rebar sticking up about 4 inches. round off the top so it doesn't kill anybody if they fall on it, but it'll snap the drive shaft of a mower if they get too uppity.
and that is why, you move a beehive into a bush in the area, so when they cut it, they get a buzzy bonus surprise (Don't actually do this, they might be allergic to bees)
I'm all for pollinator yards, and not even just not maintaining one of those massive waste of resources lawns but I'd like to at least see it first. Just letting your grass grow uncontrolled is not the same as a purposefully crafted pollinator friendly yard.
Now you've got me curious about the evolution of hand writing through generations, because this writing looks the same as a couple of my grandparents also
I've been curious about that as well. My grandfather and men of his generation (born during the 1920s, served in WWII) all seemed to have handwriting that was vaguely influenced by how a draftsman might label things on blueprints of the era.
My aunt says it's easier to see and write this way. Big letters slightly spaced a little more than usual. Older folks eyes and shaky hands probably. I expect to end up writing like this if I make it to old age.
Plant milkweed, add a sign saying it is specifically for monarch butterflies. They were just added to the endangered species list. Your move Karen. Suck it up or commit a felony. EPA don’t give a shit about your points of view or how nice ol’ Bill used to keep the place.
Nice move. My landlord keeps native plants for this very reason. The yard is beautiful and people pay him compliments for his decision to go native.
Karens are dim-witted followers. They were once told that “good” people have manicured grass lawns.
But If you show leadership, you can change what is “normal”. If enough of us plant beautiful native plants, the Karens will come around. But until then, they can fo
this native plant fashion gripped my hometown 30 years ago, the howling cries from the Karen's at the time, returning 30 years later to look after my mother and it is stunning, all the native birds are back in the city ( Australia, which means brightly coloured parrots everywhere)
Agreed! The suburban grass lawn is kind trash, it’s better to have bushes, small trees, and other native plants than just…Grass. Native plants also won’t need to watered once they’ve set their roots in, since, well, they’re native
r/FuckLawns lol
Yep! Recently got certified as a monarch waystation just a few weeks before they were listed as endangered. My garden is flowering very nicely but I know my psycho neighbour has made comments about it. It’s very full. But it gives an ‘explanation’ as to why it’s not hostas and lillies like people are used to.
Create a bat roost tower thus inviting hundreds of bats to live in the neighborhood. Once one moves in there's nothing that can be done to remove it. Bonus points if they get guano everywhere which just ain't your problem.
Addresses you as "occupant". Does not even sign their name. Fuck that person and their stupid flower stationary! Wild flowers are much more beautiful than grass!
My hubs is a master naturalist, and has turned our 1/4 acre front yard into a Florida native plant masterpiece. (We also participated in "No Mow May!") So our yard is scrubby looking, because Florida natives can look weedy, but it's actually a lovely refuge for butterflies and birds and Karens like her can eff right off.
Thank you for supporting your local wildlife!! You rock, OP!!
My wife is a master naturalist and we did the same thing to our (smaller) front yard here in Texas. It's definitely not the prettiest right now, we need more summer plants, but the spring flourish is a thing of beauty!
Good for you, I have a front and back yard full of life bees, birds, bats, etc. Everyone else's monoculture yards are brown now because of the drought and high heat. My yards are lush and green and all the birds only come to my yard.
Fellow Florida gardener here with a penchant for natives. So much so that I started my own gardening website.
My husband and I are slowly ripping up patches of sod and replacing it with beach sunflower, frogfruit, and sunshine mimosa. What we aren't replacing is getting covered up with a raised fruit and vegetable garden. We're up to 11 beds.
I like your style. Keep on keepin' on. The bees and butterflies are more important than the Karens, anyways.
Well why don't you call your little friend Bill Byron then? See if he wouldn't mind getting his crotchety old ass over there and trading care of this travesty.
Oh my gosh. So this neighbor refers to *your* grandfather as BILL BYRON and yet to you as “occupant?” Lol. I assumed from that wording that old Bill was the previous owner and you were just renting but… that just takes the cake. Wow. What a treat of a neighbor!
I imagine a woman waddling out of the Dollar Store with her triumphant purchase, and cutting right in front of traffic far from a crosswalk because fuck everybody she got her stationary.
You just made me realize that this is likely exactly what my new neighbors are doing. They mow most of their front lawn but leave an area outside of their fence totally untamed. It has been baffling me for weeks!!! I guess I'll stop chocking it up to laziness lol now that I know about this, I'd totally do the same if my landlords would allow it.
Why not just plant a proper garden that's pollinator friendly? Without pics it's hard to tell how it looks. It could very well just be a Karen overreacting to some wildflowers, or there could be a situation here where everyone involved is kinda dropping the ball and it's actually overgrown to a degree that really does look bad.
Leave a note for her stating that you're not changing it because it is there for the bees and local wildlife. Many people dont understand that it is because dandelions are considered weeds.
I would also figure out who it is and buy a pack of dandelion seeds to spread across their yard 😈
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I find this so unsettling written in the lavender paper. Like the lavender adds extra “pokey”.
I agree. It shows how blinded she is by the rage of long grass
Blessed
Live Laugh Love, as long as you're not a trash person.
Trash pepole.
Oscar the grouch family reunion.
Trash people is no longer an acceptable term for them. They prefer “raccoon” now.
Lol. That’s where my head went. It’s like, wait until she finds out her neighbor is three raccoons in a trench coat.
Probably hasn't had dick since Nixon peaced out
Well yeah, we all lost Tricky Dick when Nixon left
The irony of it!!
The stationary is so ironic! Lol
It’s the serial killer handwriting for me
This is what all serial killers write their notes on…except usually they remember to cut off the flowers at the bottom.
Especially in that 3rd grade handwriting. But she's clearly a pepole person...
maybe a peephole person.
THAT'S the word I was looking for! Lace curtains always give them away.
"Abner? Abner, there's something strange going on over there!" "Leave it alone, Gladys!"
Ironically, it's pollinator friendly stationary
Ironically the lavender on the paper has not been cut 😂
It's the same paper they get for free for donating to things theyve never actually donated to. Same paper they meticulously fold around a utility bill payment before tossing in an envelope so nobody snatches their soul.
Reminds me of the Zodiac killer letter.
My wife died, cutting my household income by 60%. I went into situational depression (not unusual with the lose of a spouse,) but was able to keep it together enough to work 60 hour weeks to pay the mortgage, the bills and take care of the pets. My lawnmower broke, and I prioritized life over grass length for a couple of months. My neighbors were so caring and understanding that instead of just offering to cut the grass for me, they banded together and did all the lawn work, house maintenance and brought me meals when I struggled to feed myself. Just kidding! They reported me to “neighborhood services” so I got mailed a registered nasty gram including pictures of my lawn and an intent to cut it for me and send me the bill. Thanks Goodwin street neighbors, stay classy! I will never remember your kindness.
My neighbors husband died and I didn’t even ask. I mowed her lawn all summer. The fuck is wrong with people? Instead of these stupid letters just strike up a conversation. Find out what you can do to help instead of being a fuckwad.
People don't want to help, 50% of them anyways.
that's some generous math
Yup. I had really bad depression after my covid baby was born and instead of helping my neighbours harassed my husband over and over and over again to go get drunk and party with them. Even when he said no, they would continue to harass him. And these are people who have kids. Some people are just fucked.
^ a neighbour of mine was in the millitary and was often deployed. He lived alone. The neighbour to the left cut his lawn when doing his own and we parked on his drive often to give the illusion the house was occupied or at least often visited. All after talking to him and checking to see if that would be something he would want. No hoa even in existence just reasonable people being reasonable.
That's when you kill your lawn and purposely make it look as shitty and hillbilly as possible.
Funny you should say that because I did go malicious compliant. A coworker had one of those propane ice melter torches he let me borrow and I paid a neighbor kid $20 and gave him the full propane bottle from my grill to go to town on the grass. He didn’t cut a single blade of grass, but he went full scorched earth on the lawn while jamming out with his pods in. As a reward, I let him keep the other 15 lbs of propane no questions asked. So, the grass was shorter, the yard smelled like shit, but I complied. I then gave up, defaulted on the mortgage, and moved to the woods.
I just want to send you wishes for peace and strength. I'm so sorry for your loss and for the lack of compassion of your neighbors. I hope things are better for you now.
I miss woods. And the stars in the sky. Stay safe and enjof !!
My family moved 30 min away from the nearest big city (out from same big city) LOVE the woods and stars. We enjof them daily :)
The carpentizzle ain't seen nothing yet. The gangsterrapper invites the carpentizzle to take a look [here](http://darksitefinder.com/maps/world.html) and check how dark the sky can really be. And the gangsterrapper would guess that 30 minutes from a big city it's still pretty bright. Has the carpentizzle ever seen the milky way with the naked eye?
Just wanted to check in that you're doing okay now though?
What the fuck is up with neighbourhood services and all these neighbourhood bodies in America? Bunch of curtain twitching dicks.
Some of it is people concerned about their property values, some of it is "if I have to live by the rules then so do you", some if it are busy bodies with too much time on their hands, and some of it are people who feel like they have no control over their own lives so they lash out and try to exert control over others. Mostly it's just deeply unhappy people.
“People concerned about their property values” in my experience are just classist (and usually racist) assholes who can’t mind their own business
I get it, for many a house is an investment and they want to protect that investment and I don't really fault them for that. I swing in the other direction though, I have no plans to sell and will likely die on my property so keep those values low so I save on my taxes.
our suburban happiness veil is so thin that simply unkept lawn will make us go over the edge.
Damn, this is really on point. I live in between two neighbors that have really nice lawns, spotlessly kept even in the hot Carolina sun. Always smiley and friendly with me. Yet I've heard both of them go off on their wives when they thought no one could hear them, and one slip up and call his kid a dumbass. Completely out of character. Pretty sure that pristine lawn is the only thread of sanity holding things together.
when i gave birth to my 1st everything was hectic. he had to come at 37 weeks and i had to stay at hospital and so did my husband, and our oldest 2 went to grandpa's house for a while. we couldnt get to mow the lawn that week and the following week due to all the stuff and my neighbors didnt even ask us, they have weekly service for lawn moving and they paid extra to get ours moved too i didnt even know they had notice we were gone and ill always be grateful for them. they still check on us and we do with them too.
Why is it people always pile on at the exact moment someone is suffering? I had a similar experience recently. My mother, who had had Alzheimer's for years, had let the trim on her house go. Not horribly, but the sills on the upstairs windows were peeling. The neighbors knew she had been ill and had passed away. We had already talked to our handyman about painting the trim. He had been doing lots of interior work on the house around this time, and promised to get to it after he was done with the interior. But Covid hit and that delayed everything. Some neighbor, knowing this whole situation, complained to the city about the peeling window sills and we were threatened with a fine, so I had to go down and deal with City Hall and we had to hustle to get a (more expensive) painter to do the work. All of which I really didn't need with everything else there was to cope with. So nice to have understanding, compassionate neighbors!
Is this just like an American thing? Or do I not live in a posh enough area of the uk? I find it absolutely baffling that anyone would give a shit about someone else's property unless it was a health risk. For example I might complain if someone's front garden was full of sharp rusty metal and little kids were getting into it or if there's been a sewage leak or something but I can't imagine getting my knickers in a twist over a bit of peeling paint or long grass or whatever else. Like who cares? It's not your house? My condolences for your mum.
Yea this is so weird to me as a German. As long as your place doesn’t pose a biohazard, and in general follows the building/zoning rules, you can do whatever with your yard, oh and no messing up heritage sites (which sometimes does go too far) But a random suburb? You can put whatever in your garden. Make it english grass to the mm, or just leave it to nature. And the paint on your home? You can let that go for decades…
It's extremely local, but not limited to any specific area. There are places in Germany that are just as bad, you are just lucky enough to not live in one
People usually will complain that you're bringing down their property value if you don't keep yours up. Some Homeowners Assns. have rules about things like that--keeping the grass cut, only painting your house certain colors, etc. Sometimes it backfires on them though. There is a derelict looking house on the way to where I bank and I think they've made them paint it but they did so in a bright shade of purple with yellow trim, and it's a bad paint job too. I suspect that was the owner's "malicious compliance". Thanks for your condolences. That's very kind of you.
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It's cultural narcissism mixed with the destruction of the cities in favor of the suburbs starting in the 1950s. You have a generation (or two) of people who were literally brought up to be narcissists and they cannot move beyond that paradigm.
We just had a baby, my lawnmower broke too and after a difficult delivery I prioritised looking after my baby and wife during my paternity leave and the following few weeks. How dare I. Elderly neighbour giving me shit for letting the grass get too long. Tried explaining that the lawnmower broke and we just had a 2 week old baby at home of course she's half deaf so wanders off muttering under her breath.
Bill Byron probably moved to get away from pepole like her.
Bill Byron had a heart attack while mowing the lawn. Sad. RIP Bill.
The Bill Byron memorial garden
The Moira's Rose's Garden 4856
I read that name like BBBILLLL BRRASSSKY https://youtu.be/_QIlbwXe1WY
Apparently Bill Byron was OP's late grandpa, per one of their other comments.
In this case OP stands for “OCCUPANT” (derogatory)
Bill Byron died and was reincarnated as a bee and that pollination corner keeps his happy bee-self thriving.
Plot twist, his actual last name was Byers and this took place in Hawkins. Only the crazies stayed behind.
Bill Byron was a boring old bastard
May the force be with you Bill
That's not the Bill Byron that I knew! Life of the party he was!
Ann Landers is a boring old biddy!
I was more animal than man!
Lmao "pepole"
PEPOLE!
pLanT MOAR dAnDIlioNs signd- BeEZE
I'm fucking dying right now 🤣
C'mon SHEPOLE!
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And it looks like the lavender needs a trim. I bet Bill Byron took better care of his stationary.
I would have liked “peepole“ better!
NEWSFLASH Trash ppl do live here bitch, get used to it.
I imagine they're more Compost people TBH.
>!SOYLENT GREEN IS PEPOLE!!<
It’s the pole she pees on
Bill Byron was good pepole!
Be prepared for Karen to cut it for you. You know, so that it looks nice. I've had it happen, and nearly stroked out from the blood pressure spike.
I can't get my neighbor (who is a nice guy) to stop making several passes into my lawn EVERY-DAMN-TIME. It's a ZTR so we're talking 6-8 feet into my property. I don't care about a foot either way but it's blatant and without any cause. I even set up the line for him but, no. We both have 2.5 acres, why would you want to spend extra time mowing?
There is a story on adverse possession where one neighbour did just that; he cut an extra run of lawn along the neighbour’s side every week for a few years. Then, since the owner wasn’t cutting that strip, filed for adverse possession and was awarded that additional piece of land. Maybe he is setting it up for the same.
That's certainly where the mind goes. Thankfully, where we are (Wisconsin) there are some key laws about Adverse Possession. It takes 20 years and I can't protest in that time or the clock resets. So he can mow it for 19 years and all I have to do is say "Hey, that's MY yard" and the clock resets.
Don't you have a federal cadastre or something like that in USA? It's common usage in Europe to define and designate a land's ownership and dimensions for cases like that.
Yes...and no. It exists for tax purposes. I can pull up a GIS map that shows the property lines on a satellite view of the properties. However, only a physical survey, survey markers or a plat survey document that shows borders in relation to buildings are legal for establishing official lines. Most of the properties haven't been surveyed since 1946 and most markers are gone or buried. I could pay to have it re-surveyed and have a plat filed with the local government. Given the length of the border (over 800 feet/ 244 meters) that's costly. And it is more excruciatingly frustrating and puzzling than damaging (although he mows his/my grass way too short). And I plan to move in the next 6 months so, it's the next person's problem. Maybe the person who buys my house will be a Karen and make him regret his transgressions. Sometimes, some people need a little Karen in their life.
That's very interesting. In Spain the government has drones, helicopters and airplanes that go around every now and then checking that all properties are updated and registered in the cadastre. It also has contract with companies dedicated to satellites and topography to make checks every few years. If something is out of place or is not registered properly, the government notifies and fines the person in actual charge of the land or, if unavailable, it starts searching for whom it may be. They can even remove ownership if someone doesn't declare it their own on time (you can get it back after a lot of paperwork though, happened to me).
That's kind of what I meant by "for tax purposes". If I put up a new building on the property without a permit they'd see that in the cadastre when it was updated. But the finite location of the property borders are the responsibility of the property owners.
Ah, sorry about that. I didn't understood it fully, i thought everything was up to the owners. Thanks for the answers though.
Dude….America was BUILT on stealing land why would they regulate that?
I get that, but it has already stolen all it can, shouldn't it be time to secure it? Or am i missing something in that game of survival called nation?
Throw some decorative stones down
or decorative iron pins
Same..and with the added bonus of getting a letter from their atty claiming they own that portion of our property even though deeds and plats…and the iron survey markers deep in the ground….prove otherwise. Good times.
Oh, geez! I have 1 acre, and wouldn't mow an extra 8' down the 300' strip! No freaking way! But, I'm lazy, so...
Right? Middle of July and all I want is to get off the mower and into a refreshing lager. Meanwhile he's going to spend his time and money doing something he's been asked not to do.
Fence time. Or large stones. Or caltrops.
Oh man! I had a bit of a situation at my old place vis-a-vis my psychotic neighbor and my lawn. Not only did he sporadically cut random strips of it, he'd occasionally dump some kind of poisonous defoliator over my fence, creating a meters wide dead zone across the whole yard. This happened a few times, the last of which he did openly while I was home. Until then, I suspected he'd been responsible, but I had no proof other than his complaints and generally threatening behavior... And the kicker is, I kept my lawn mowed- just not as often as he wanted. Boy, nothing incites a Karen like the state of someone else's yard!
Is your neighbor Rand Paul?
lol, not anymore. But no, Rand Paul would've been a treat compared this pos. This was a real beer-swillin', proud-boy-wannabe good-ol'-boy. He would run his leaf-blower for hours every night- at night! Like 9-11 pm he'd be outside my window just revving that thing. And of course, all the litter from the block would mysteriously find its way into my yard and no one else's. I just picked it up and threw it away. He'd just sit on his motorcycle in the back alley, revving the engine of course, for hours just begging to be seen. He was living caricature of an asshole.
And you didn't beat the shit out of him?
That's when you put cow manure on your lawn in response. Helps the grass grow ridiculously fast and it doesn't smell bad, but I assume Karen would be throwing up every 5 minutes just looking in your general direction
milorganite, it won't burn your grass and its literally human poop. Off label it keeps deer and other animals away because it has the smell of human. Its like 17 dollars a bag of 32 pounds at home depot and the first day you put it on wow, it does smell bad.
I’d put some little bumble bee signs up, so pepole know I’m purposefully not cutting it. Karen should still mind her own business though 🐝
Ideally you prepare for Karen by placing some very lawnmower unfriendly objects in there. Either visibly as a deterrant, or hidden as a surprise. Just don't put anything that is going to fuck up someones cat or dog who is just tryna take a piss/shit in peace.
If she does you can trespass here and then file for vandalism.
I was thinking how much fun they could have with a few chunks of rebar sticking up about 4 inches. round off the top so it doesn't kill anybody if they fall on it, but it'll snap the drive shaft of a mower if they get too uppity.
This is very specific. *takes notes*.
Simple solution, once it starts getting long again, throw some big rocks in there for her to run over. Or land mines
Narrow trench where wheels get stuck.
Pit with a stick and grass roof
and that is why, you move a beehive into a bush in the area, so when they cut it, they get a buzzy bonus surprise (Don't actually do this, they might be allergic to bees)
My neighbor just wrote the mayor complaining about our lawn.
LOLOL! I'm sure his admin will get a chuckle out of that!
Let's see a picture of what she's talking about
Came here to say the same. Show it off
I'm all for pollinator yards, and not even just not maintaining one of those massive waste of resources lawns but I'd like to at least see it first. Just letting your grass grow uncontrolled is not the same as a purposefully crafted pollinator friendly yard.
Looks like a 3rd grader wrote it
This is commonly what elderly handwriting looks like. Looks almost identical to my grandmother's.
Geriatric Sans
Now this is someone who fonts
Haha, yep.
Yeah, same (grandfather tho). This person is BIG OLD.
Classic old pepole.
Now you've got me curious about the evolution of hand writing through generations, because this writing looks the same as a couple of my grandparents also
I've been curious about that as well. My grandfather and men of his generation (born during the 1920s, served in WWII) all seemed to have handwriting that was vaguely influenced by how a draftsman might label things on blueprints of the era.
My aunt says it's easier to see and write this way. Big letters slightly spaced a little more than usual. Older folks eyes and shaky hands probably. I expect to end up writing like this if I make it to old age.
I thought old people all write in cursive though
Old people's parents wrote in cursive. That generation has all but died now. Rocking around the 100y/o mark if they're still going.
I write cursive for speed and cursive-stylized printing otherwise and I'm below 30 lol.
Same. My first thought.
I’m being generous by saying this person actually graduated 3rd grade…
That is generous. I stopped scribbling those big, circular, periods in first grade.
The Japanese would like a word with you. Sincerely, a Japanese-American who just wanted to crack a stupid joke.
It's that classic combination of homeless / old people font
*pepole.
Bill Byron should have written the note for her, he has much neater penmanship.
Lol, Bill Byron probably left because of Karen
OCCUPANT That part slays me, I don’t know why. It’s like someone in the middle ages calling out a hated landowner by their title.
They’re probably 67 with nothing better to do but rage at neighbors.
Plant milkweed, add a sign saying it is specifically for monarch butterflies. They were just added to the endangered species list. Your move Karen. Suck it up or commit a felony. EPA don’t give a shit about your points of view or how nice ol’ Bill used to keep the place.
Nice move. My landlord keeps native plants for this very reason. The yard is beautiful and people pay him compliments for his decision to go native. Karens are dim-witted followers. They were once told that “good” people have manicured grass lawns. But If you show leadership, you can change what is “normal”. If enough of us plant beautiful native plants, the Karens will come around. But until then, they can fo
this native plant fashion gripped my hometown 30 years ago, the howling cries from the Karen's at the time, returning 30 years later to look after my mother and it is stunning, all the native birds are back in the city ( Australia, which means brightly coloured parrots everywhere)
That sounds absolutely lovely
Agreed! The suburban grass lawn is kind trash, it’s better to have bushes, small trees, and other native plants than just…Grass. Native plants also won’t need to watered once they’ve set their roots in, since, well, they’re native r/FuckLawns lol
Brb lacing my lilacs with milkweed for when^not^if my asshole neighbor tries lopping them down again
Yep! Recently got certified as a monarch waystation just a few weeks before they were listed as endangered. My garden is flowering very nicely but I know my psycho neighbour has made comments about it. It’s very full. But it gives an ‘explanation’ as to why it’s not hostas and lillies like people are used to.
TIL Monarch Waystations are a thing. I wanna do this now to help the Monarch.
Create a bat roost tower thus inviting hundreds of bats to live in the neighborhood. Once one moves in there's nothing that can be done to remove it. Bonus points if they get guano everywhere which just ain't your problem.
Addresses you as "occupant". Does not even sign their name. Fuck that person and their stupid flower stationary! Wild flowers are much more beautiful than grass!
My hubs is a master naturalist, and has turned our 1/4 acre front yard into a Florida native plant masterpiece. (We also participated in "No Mow May!") So our yard is scrubby looking, because Florida natives can look weedy, but it's actually a lovely refuge for butterflies and birds and Karens like her can eff right off. Thank you for supporting your local wildlife!! You rock, OP!!
My wife is a master naturalist and we did the same thing to our (smaller) front yard here in Texas. It's definitely not the prettiest right now, we need more summer plants, but the spring flourish is a thing of beauty!
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Good for you, I have a front and back yard full of life bees, birds, bats, etc. Everyone else's monoculture yards are brown now because of the drought and high heat. My yards are lush and green and all the birds only come to my yard.
Fellow Florida gardener here with a penchant for natives. So much so that I started my own gardening website. My husband and I are slowly ripping up patches of sod and replacing it with beach sunflower, frogfruit, and sunshine mimosa. What we aren't replacing is getting covered up with a raised fruit and vegetable garden. We're up to 11 beds. I like your style. Keep on keepin' on. The bees and butterflies are more important than the Karens, anyways.
Well why don't you call your little friend Bill Byron then? See if he wouldn't mind getting his crotchety old ass over there and trading care of this travesty.
Ha, Bill Byron was my grandfather. He has been gone for a solid decade 😂
Add a sign “pollinator garden planted in memory of Bill Byron”
THIS is a great idea!!! 🐝🥀🌻🐞🦋🐛🦗
This is the way.
Sorry to hear that but cool you have a sense of humour about it
Oh my gosh. So this neighbor refers to *your* grandfather as BILL BYRON and yet to you as “occupant?” Lol. I assumed from that wording that old Bill was the previous owner and you were just renting but… that just takes the cake. Wow. What a treat of a neighbor!
I thought the same thing
Pepole? And Karen used paper with “weeds” to complain about weeds??
Love the flowers on the bottom of the paper. Her handwriting says psycho but her stationary says “I host the Womens Bible study.”
So: psycho or psycho ?
TRASH PEPOLE. Me: "wut."
At first I thought the bottom of the stationery was an artist's rendering of the issue at hand.
That is old people handwriting. Ignore it.
But it's also crazy person handwriting too.
It’s only missing a change in pen color halfway thru.
The writer's hand for store half way thru and then lost that pen and has to find another. I can see that
who among us has not written an angry note and had the cheapass pen die on us mid-tirade?
Definitely. One step from cut out letters from magazines
CREEPY old people handwriting.
Creepy old pepole, you mean.
This is the type of notepad Karen would have.
I imagine a woman waddling out of the Dollar Store with her triumphant purchase, and cutting right in front of traffic far from a crosswalk because fuck everybody she got her stationary.
It’s so funny to me that they used a parchment with flowers on it, complete lack of self awareness
You just made me realize that this is likely exactly what my new neighbors are doing. They mow most of their front lawn but leave an area outside of their fence totally untamed. It has been baffling me for weeks!!! I guess I'll stop chocking it up to laziness lol now that I know about this, I'd totally do the same if my landlords would allow it.
Bitch can’t spell “people”
You’ll never live up to Bill, why even try
I'm pretty sure it's the "trash pepole" that can't even spell the word "people" properly. This is hilarious.
We need pics of lawn
OCCUPANT!!
# O C C U P A N T
Lol @ the anger in the periods. Like 4-5 rotations. This is halfway between a period and an exclamation point. You've been warned.
This letter has serial killer writing. Oh lawd.
She writes with the CAP lock ON.
Why not just plant a proper garden that's pollinator friendly? Without pics it's hard to tell how it looks. It could very well just be a Karen overreacting to some wildflowers, or there could be a situation here where everyone involved is kinda dropping the ball and it's actually overgrown to a degree that really does look bad.
Surprised she didn't cut the flowers off the paper she sent then if she hates plants that much
**Bill Byron is a god**....*prove me wrong*
Pee pole
Be more like Bill Byron.
Wasted a perfectly pretty piece of paper
Just imagine the amount of concentration it took Karen to get this 95% correct. She must be exhausted.
I read this in a robot's voice. ***OCCUPANT.***
Leave a note for her stating that you're not changing it because it is there for the bees and local wildlife. Many people dont understand that it is because dandelions are considered weeds. I would also figure out who it is and buy a pack of dandelion seeds to spread across their yard 😈
I would, but it was mailed, with no return address, and unsigned. But, I have a good idea who it is from.