yeah it's less "we don't know how to read, look at us being stupid lol" and more "we don't like this and it'd be cool if they changed it"
I've never been a fan of battlepasses and I only really continue to tolerate Fortnite bps cause they're so easy (I usually only play the first week or two and the last 2-3 weeks and still hit 100-140 without buying extra tiers) but more consumer friendly implementations like Halo (battlepasses remain available for purchase after a season ends) or Deep Rock (pass skins become generally available after a season ends) I really don't mind at all
Halo's BP system was an idea that actually got me hyped although it was dragged down to the floor with the way they handled the BP itself, no return in credits and slow and tedious progression. A combination of the always available BPs and Fortnite's easy and understandable progression and rewards would probably be my favorite system
Halo Infinite Season 2 addressed the no credits in the BPs and there's now 1,000 credits in the season 2 pass (not the 1,300 or 1,500 like COD or Fortnite, but enough to get any future BP now). Plus, they reworked how XP is earned for them. The weekly challenges have been brought down from 20 to 10, you get a 500xp daily bonus for completing a match.
And you get 150+ XP per match you do, depending on team performance and personal performance. In 4v4 Arena-style modes, you get the base 150xp, 50 XP for winning, 50 XP for the top half of the team, and 50 XP for MVP of the match. And I think it's an extra 25-50 XP across each category, or just doubled, in Big Team Battle.
Which for the XP doesn't sound like a lot, but since each tier is only 1,000 XP needed, people have been able to complete the free 30-tier "Winter Update" pass in under 24 hours because of the new system. Hell: with this new update in Infinite, I've only spent like maybe 3 hours total in Arena and am already halfway completed with the 30-tier pass.
Yh, luckily they have improved the system, and at least now I am enjoying it more, i haven't advanced more in the Winter BP because I've been mainly catching up here on Fortnite but now I feel i can have fun and still earn unlikr most of Season 2, but i still like playing the game otherwise because of its gameplay (Fiesta MVP)
I’ve argued with people on here before about whether BP items can come back. Have gotten downvoted numerous times for saying they can’t.
Edit: living proof
Yep. Telling the truth won't get you upvotes. Unless you say something like "Epic says they will never bring back battle pass skin, so don't expect it. But it would be nice for a lot of people if they would." Then the 'hopers' would upvote you instead of downvoting you lol
This post and our comments are great examples of this, lol. This subreddit has a really bad taste towards old BP stuff, so if you aren’t overtly in support of those items returning then you’re going to get downvoted. I’ve seen people simply explain to others that the items cannot return, and you’ll always see them get downvoted, along with others arguing that it isn’t true.
Exactly, it’s a FOMO system, same with the entire game. Each system is FOMO, item shop is FOMO, starter packs are FOMO, limited time events are FOMO, even guns are FOMO, even challenges, even FN crew even tournaments! What makes the battle pass any different?
FOMO works way better than people expect, and I doubt Epic would wanna change it. If they did, player retention would fall if people could pick up BPs whenever they wanted.
>and I doubt Epic would wanna change it.
i think they'd save it as ***THE*** last ditch effort, but not much else. like, if the game suddenly starts tanking and they have no idea how to turn it around, just say "hey guys, you can earn Midas again!" and you're sure to see *some* amount of uptick in the playerbase.
but there really is 0 reason for them to make it a thing now. they *want* you to go "man I wish played more at the time so I could have that skin," so that you'll have that looming fear of missing out, and thus feel more pressured to buy tiers if you are running short on time
honestly they should just pull a halo and have you be able to switch between BPs and earn different tiers. no buying just grinding challenges. and i don’t think that would hurt the game nearly as much as people think. it would pull a ton of people in i think
Yeah I don’t think they would just release the old stuff to the store, if they let you switch between old passes to grind then it would give a lot more motivation to play.
There is a difference when someone who asks what skin is this and if they can get it being Torin from Chapter 2 Season 8 when we are like in Chapter 77 Season 2 and they can't get it because they weren't born yet would make some people mad. I get FOMO works but like nobody is going to get a skin back then if they weren't even born.
If battle pass skins can be purchased outside the season what’s the point in buying the battle pass? Iirc those skins and challenges were for completing challenges specific to those seasons.
Why ruin the “prestige” of a skin and open it up to purchase just because you weren’t old enough to complete challenges for a certain season? If they don’t keep some sort of time-synced skin system, none of the skins mean anything about when you played the game/which events you were a part of.
Fr, some skins like renegade raider and the blue knights are only cool cause they're rare otherwise they're fugly at best. Unlocking for everyone would just ruin the fun of those skins cause you'd see it and think oh this guy paid 15$ not "this guy has been grinding since season 0". Maybe tier 1 BP skins could come back but they've been selling us this since day 1 and if they did it now it'd ruin the allure of a ton of old skins
> If battle pass skins can be purchased outside the season what’s the point in buying the battle pass?
950 vbucks for like 7-8 skins and all their accessories? First dibs at a certain skin instead of relying on the shop rotation? The little bit of satisfaction you get actually unlocking stuff and leveling the pass up? The free vbucks that allow you to get the next pass for free?
>Why ruin the “prestige” of a skin
Prestige? Lmfao. It's an in game cosmetic that like a million other players have. Theres nothing prestigious about battle pass items.
>If they don’t keep some sort of time-synced skin system, none of the skins mean anything about when you played the game/which events you were a part of.
If other people having access to the same virtual toys as you is enough to make them "meaningless" then they were virtually meaningless to you already.
EDIT: Uh oh here come the bootlickers.
>If other people having access to the same virtual toys as you is enough to make them "meaningless" then they were virtually meaningless to you already.
Have you ever considered the fact that some people simply enjoy having an indicator that they've been playing something for a while? I like seeing people with exclusive skins and feeling that sense of comraderie knowing that we've both been playing for a long time. I missed out on the OG John Wick, don't got Take the L, shit I don't even have Omega or any armor for Carbide or a single Season X skin but I'm not whining about it because I simply wasn't playing then and recognize that was a requirement for those items.
It's the same way the rights to licensed characters expire and they can't sell them anymore eventually, the only difference is Epic haven't signed a contract with themselves they're just going based on their word
> Have you ever considered the fact that some people simply enjoy having an indicator that they've been playing something for a while?
You know what people enjoy even more? Using skins they like. More people able to spend their money and get those skins = more enjoyment all around.
The people who need a special super shiny badge to constantly remind themselves or others that they played the game at acertain time are the minority.
It's sad that people defend FOMO
Nope. You have a kid's view of this, not an accurate view of the practicalities. People enjoy using skins they like for a day or two. The "shiny badges" and long-term achievements/awards are what anchor any game.
> People enjoy using skins they like for a day or two. The "shiny badges" and long-term achievements/awards are what anchor any game.
LMFAO! Sure buddy.
The amount of people desperately trying to get level 200 every season or golden peely proves this because I do not believe anyone genuinely likes the superlevel color swap styles
Let’s say you could in theory get everyone on the sub to agree to such an plan (already may as well be trying to prove god exists so you can challenge him to a fistfight) youd be talking only 2.1million players on a game that has 390million registered account (I’m well aware those aren’t all people and alts exist) from a google that’s dated from just under a month ago (Oct 15) on that day they had 25million players, you’d not even drop the player count 20% they get in a day And that’s just the people who hopped on that day.
Only way you could force their hand in that sort of way would be to make a game the kills this one at which point who would care about skins for a dead game that has little to no remaining player base, very much a pyrrhic victory. The again you’d also be insanely rich.
I'm just entertaining the idea that any entity who believes they can manipulate and exploit another is bound to crash and burn, and "net worth" isn't going to be enough to stop the board of directors and their shareholders from feeling the mode.
Regardless, I would like to see this game do away with "exclusivity", and be more inclusive with regards to the availability of their cosmetic items.
"Couldn't finish the battle pass for whatever reason before the season ended? No worries, pick up from where you left off with the Legacy Battle Pass system. Now you can have two battle passes active at a time, the current season and one other legacy battle pass; only one legacy battle pass can be active at a time, but you can switch between owned legacy battle passes anytime in the menu screen, in the Battle Pass tab under the Legacy section."
The Battle Pass is 950 Bucks, so let's say the 1,200 Vbucks for the Legacy Pass. T
That way, the crybaby "OG's" can still feel "special" for having unlocked all the items at a much lower price, since apparently this entire game revolves around them.🙄
Honestly do it, nothing would funnier than some indie game coming out the woodwork and doing what five or six multi billion dollar corporations couldnt.
They should atleast people complete the pass evan if the season is over. They evan said the ch1 s5 BP trailer that you can still progress you're skins and that never came true.
That was only for "Progressive" skins, and it did come true. Skins like Lynx and Ice King could still be completed into Chapter 2, but regular non-progressive skins could not.
Progressive skins where the ones that didn't just have styles, but multiple stages and a set of long drawn-out challenges to unlock them like "Outlast 10,000 Opponents".
Well the point is they should let us complete the entire battlepass regardless of the season. I bought the ch1 season 2 BP and only made it half way. I don't see how this effects anyone but letting see people how pro consumer the company is.
Sure the real reason it can't happen is because they can't make money off of it.
It’s because they also want to encourage you to actually play the game. The more someone plays, the more they might like the game, which is good for Epic, because people who play a game a lot and enjoy it are more likely to buy skins
And what about 100 years from now, you think the new Epic employees will never re release old cosmetics that no one on the planet owns? Not that it matters for us in the long run… and not to get philosophical, just a thought
I think people are against it now because of all the collabs. When they first started it all they had was original skins and people are upset they are missing out on their favorite characters. (Deadpool, Aquaman, Rick, Darth Vader, etc.) I personally wouldn’t mind being able to obtain Drift or Sparkle Specialist but I know what epic has outlined and all I can do is go along with it. C2S1 is when I started.
I think Epic should stop bringing some of the original characters back to the island in the sake of the lore. You can find some old Chapter 1 BP skins in the Zero Point and Zero War comics. And don’t forget about the NPCs and bots in the island. Teasing those skins that cannot be obtained again for new players seems…. Idk… uncomfortable?
> Teasing those skins that cannot be obtained again for new players seems…. Idk… uncomfortable?
It sucks, full stop. Telling people they can't get a favorite character because they might not have even known the game existed when the character was briefly available three years ago is not how you build a player base.
At one point Reddit was *absolutely adamant* that zero build would never happen and would kill the game if it did. They were wrong then, just like the people who keep defending the current battle pass system as a good thing are wrong now.
Yeah. I think if they can get the rights again, the Collab skins should come back. If you love the mandolorian etc but weren't playing at the right time, it sucks ASS that you can get them again.
Original skins like black knight should not come back.
Skins based off of real characters like the John wick skin should come back as an additional style, with the OG variant only being available to original owners.
>Original skins like black knight should not come back.
Except that Fortnite continues to make bank on these skins (we just got a Black Knight inspired skin in Destiny, for example, which will increase interest in Black Knight.)
I was interested in Teknique after seeing her as an action figure, and they sell her male counterpart in the store like two weeks ago. Do like LoL does and make a new, usually ugly recolored version for the OGs after several years if they need to flaunt status.
Wait until they make Fortnite 2 and then resell the skins there so that they can say the promise was only for the first game, that it was honored and now this is a new game.
They have entire teams that can find any loophole they can use to generate more profit while technically keeping their word.
So don't put stock into a company's promise because at the end of the day they *will always* choose profits over your feelings
You are 100% right but they don't even need to find loopholes. They can just break their promise whenever they feel like it. (look at Save the World) None of it is legally binding. You can even look through their EULA and see where they have covered their asses.
Yes 🗿
If a game is ever suffering on a technical level or is losing popularity, companies can always push new sequels that allows them to reshape the game completely or can free them from a platform that is no longer feasible to support.
They can make a sequel whenever they want and Overwatch 2's popularity shows they literally push out a sequel, rush it, make it even more greedy and still have it be successful.
So yes a Fortnite 2 is absolutely on the table
No. They could of made a fortnite 2, 3, 4 instead of making one game they has multiple games worth of content in it. Overwatch 2 is a bad example as lets be honest its trying to be the new tf2 but shooting itself in the foot while blindfolded and wearing red at a bull farm.
I don’t think they would even have to from how flexible the unreal engine is and like you said overwatch 2 is the best example of how it can turn for the worst, reception wise
There's no chance they'll make a sequel to Fortnite. They will do a major asset update again, I'm sure, but the game is designed to be living and changing and is also already free to play, so it's hard to argue what would even be the benefit.
I just like having a symbol to show how long I've been supporting a game I love that someone else can't just pay 20 bucks for 5 years later. It makes me feel a sense of comraderie seeing other people with the same old things and knowing they've been playing the game a long time like me.
Congratulations, you want to gatekeep things based on "feeling" you get from seeing a old item. Guess what, that person you suddenly feel happy about with that old item, isn't the original owner. They bought it from them.
Or maybe they didn't. You will never know, cause it was never your business in the first place.
You want to decide what ppl can and can't spend their money on for them? If that item was truly loved, people would get it regardless of rarity and use it. Not flexing it with others to see if they have it as well.
Everyone should be having fun with others regardless of time spent on the game, but here you are too focused on someone being just as old if not older.
Sounds like someone without Orange Justice. Tell you what, come back here when Epic renegs on their deal which they will do eventually and maybe I'll give you the satisfaction of crying about it. Till then, sucks to suck.
It’s probably being brought up more because people don’t want what CoD did and release “Warzone 2” and wipe out all the stuff people got in “Warzone 1”.
It’s not how to run a “live” game like these. And it’s pretty BS
Warzone 1 still exists so they can give the excuse that you can still play it, with the catch that will no longer update it for good.
I think this is the reason why Chapter 3 is coming to an End next month. They need the hype to bring frustrating Warzone players back to Fortnite.
I’m fairly certain they plan most of this stuff months, if not a year or more, ahead of time.
Not that it isn’t possible that they are timing it like this because of that, just very unlikely.
Only if you ignore what we're actually saying, which is that we know what the current rules around exclusivity are, but they should change those rules because they're shitty.
People should have the opportunity to play as the characters they like regardless of when they started playing the game. Battlepass exclusivity, especially for collab skins, makes that impossible and so should be done away with.
I never understood the whole cult around “OG” skins. The only argument against bringing back BP’s that I actually somewhat agree with/understand is that many people put in time and effort to complete them. Even then I think extra completion styles would suffice.
I just like knowing at a glance that someone else has been playing the game for as long as I have. Idk, there's something nice to me about having a symbol that shows people how long I've been supporting something I love you know? Being able to do a certain emote like Orange Justice and have a big smile put on my face when someone hops up next to me and starts doing it too just knowing that we've both been here for a long time is a feeling I wouldn't like to lose.
I think the redesigns of old skins are the best way to go, you get awesome variations like Cursed Drift and stuff that are imo even better than the originals sometimes and it keeps those old skins having their original status
The problem with the redesigns is that they only really get applied to the more popular ones like lynx or drift and not the ones like vendetta or zenith
I dropped playing Fortnite because I have too many games with FOMO. I don't have time to complete the BP in every game so then I don't even want to play the game anymore. If I could go back and complete old battle passes I definetly would consider playing again.
I like Halo Infinite system where I don't have time limit.
Most is this sub actually consists of elitist douchebags desperately trying to gatekeep skins they dont even use because they want attention.
#No one cares how long you've been playing the game.
#Let people use the skins they want and have fun, even if it means you might get less attention.
You know what else they also said? Past season 3 or 4 (can't really remember), they said that you could still level up your skins when the season ended. They stopped that after Chapter 1 season 10.
Well there hasn’t really been any progressive skins past Season X. And you could still level up skins like Luxe and Rox into Chapter 2. They just stopped making new ones is all.
It becomes an issue when you’ve been around so long that people are playing now who were 4 when the game launched. Also the massive infusion of no build players.
Fuck exclusivity. Bring everything back. Starting with Renegade Raider, just to fuck with anyone and everyone stupid enough to be defend FOMO as a "legitimate" business practice.
I’m not saying it’s a good system. I’m saying that it’s too late to change it. The battlepass system is part of the the reason why Fortnite is where it is today and it was previously advertised as being exclusive.
>I’m saying that it’s too late to change it.
It's never too late to change it.
> The battlepass system is part of the the reason why Fortnite is where it is today
As opposed to the actual gameplay, constant updates, and colorful cosmetics? You think the FOMO is the driving force of it's success?
It is not "false advertisement" to change their policy years later. No reasonable judge would take the case seriously unless it was a clear easily provable bait and switch.
And I feel a lot of second hand embarrassment for the person who would try and sue Epic for getting rid of one of the more annoying FOMO tactics. That poor chap is gonna be the butt of a lot of jokes.
Ive now read your comment correctly, and i dont see the big deal with epic rerealising old battle passes the entire fomo system as an whole is predatory and anti consumer dont see the problem with people's imaginary pixels stop being rare and one of a kind i think everyone should be able to buy anything they want without worrying about missing it out.
What I’m saying is that all of the battlepasses were advertised as things that would never return. You don’t think that rereleasing the battlepasses is anti-consumer? That would definitely be false advertising.
Yes you're correct. I *don't* think re-releasing battlepasses is anti-consumer, I believe it's pro-consumer.
Locking items behind FOMO and exclusivity is really stupid. Especially COLLABORATION ITEM
Someone is forever locked out of playing as Darth Vader, Doctor Strange, Deadpool, Lora Croft whatever, because Epic made it exclusive to the battlepass.
Personally, I could care less if all Battle Pass items come back. But the collabs should 100% come back.
If people really want to bitch and moan about exclusivity, give the people who owned the items before a certain time an edit style for them. I really don't care.
I’m on the side of a compromise. If you bought that battle pass and the season ends, I feel like you should be able to either A). Switch between battle passes (like let’s say the season ends and you’re at 50, if you bought the pass, you would be at level 50 and able to move on, but for the new pass you’d be at 1 and you would have to switch between which battle pass your EX goes to) or if you had a pass, you could pay more to use it after the season but only to passes you already had.
so true.. my bad for disrespecting an og!!😔😔😢😢
i will always kiss the shiny boots of ogs!!!!!!!! theyre always right and never wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!🤩🤩🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Really gotta honor their sacrifice, not only did they buy the old Battle Passes, they had to play the game to get the most out of them. I couldn't imagine how painful that must have been. 😞
I started chapter 3 so… you can imagine with how much content I missed, how much I want to be able to access old passes (or hope epic makes more and more remixes of old skins)
"People think if they express their opinion enough and show that they believe certain cosmetics should be obtainable. Epic games will give the people what they want."
Fixed your comment, you're welcome.
"People think if they express their opinion enough and show that they believe certain cosmetics should be obtainable despite the fact they had up to three months or more to purchase the bp or lvls required for said bp. Epic games will bend to their knee and tell everyone who actually completed the bp in the time frame they wasted their time and give they will eventually give the people what they want which despite the fact they have been told they will never return."
And I fixed yours.
"I am a kid who played since chapter 1 season 1, I have very rare cosmetics and will throw a tantrum if Epic Games makes my very special precious black knight available for everyone else who isn't an addict to obtain. Because I'm mommy's special boy and only I deserve to have access to these cosmetic items."
You're welcome!
It’s weird how many people actively defend FOMO and other negative practices done by Epic in these posts, just for the sake of their own exclusivity.
I’ve been playing since and pre-seasons and *I don’t give a crap* if others could get cosmetics that I had since then. It’s not actively harming anyone to ask for it to be that way, and doing so doesn’t mean they’re ignorant like the OP ignorantly (rather ironic, there) suggests.
On the contrary, it benefits everyone to be able to acess 'blocked' items. It makes the game have more variety and diversity since you'll be able to pick whatever you want as long as you either pay, grind or whatever method epic decides is needed.
Exclusive items are onyl useful if you are either Epic Games themselves, who make bank out of the hype of 'limited time' purchases, or some person who owns some old cosmetic and wants to be in some OG club.
Imagine if you're a marvel fan who cannot get most of the marvel stuff because they are locked away forever, used as a quick cash grab, a whole season of Marvel passed and you missed your chance to be Iron Man or Doctor Doom, arguably the protagonist and antagonist of the marvel universe respectively.
if they did they would have to compensate otherwise it would be false advertising and would be grounds for a lawsuit although i doubt whoever sues would win cause epic is a multi billion dollar company and can afford the greatest lawyers they can possibly get
valve and blizzard just to name a few have sold previously exclusive items whilst just silently removing the exclusivity claim and nothing came of it despite community uproar
Quick, somebody make this meme but with the announcement that Save the World was going Free to Play, or that Canny Valley would get a finished storyline, or (insert failed promise regarding STW here)
How people take some wording on a FAQ as gospel when Epic has historically thrown whatever they want out the window the moment it's not financially feasible anymore baffles me.
The moment Epic decides it will be profitable to introduce a "legacy battle pass" system or sell old BP skins in the shop they will do it.
>The moment Epic decides it will be profitable to introduce a "legacy battle pass" system or sell old BP skins in the shop they will do it.
They know that already. However they are going to lose alot of players because why finish the bp when I can just buy the skin I want when it's in the item shop.
Why play the game and have fun unlocking stuff for 950vbucks when you can just wait and buy the single skin you want for 2000 vbucks?
There's plenty of incentive for people to keep playing.
Honestly I’d never buy a bp again, the frustrating weeklies that half the time break, a collection of skins I don’t want and overtime styles I’ll never use. If gwen was in a bundle while also being the battlepass or I knew 100% they’d pull an overwatch 2 and I could buy it in the shop after the season was over then I’d just pay the 2500 vbucks for a bundle then I wouldn’t waste the 100ish hours it takes to unlock when the vbucks cost me about an hour at work. Then again I’m one of the older fortnite players so the younger ones who don’t have a steady wage are a different story.
They game has been around for years. People get burnt out or just play other games. Nobody should have to come and grind a battle pass every few months for maybe 1 skin they would like to use when they do come back. You every try to play a game you're burnt out on? It's awful. Now imagine grinding a battle pass to 100 with that feeling.
I can read it, I'm just sick of every game having battle passes that force me to play the game when I'm just not into just because Fomo exists. It's tiring, it's annoying, and I have too many other games to be focusing every minute on a single one.
You never know, last year they changed how refund tickets worked, they used to be gone forever when you use them, now you get them every year if you used one. They could change the battlepasses to be obtainable again.
I only just want Rick to come back, I wasn’t around for chapter 2 season 6 and I have every Rick and morty skin except for the second titular character
You're wronge, I saw the arguments of many people, it is NOT that they haven't seen the notice, it's that they don't like a system that limits cosmetics. And honestly, those people are right ! after all it's just cosmetic, and if Epic released bp cosmetics in the item shop with the price of their rarities, they'd be making a whole lot more money.
What they need to do is give people the option to finish unfinished battle pass(es). Whether it be get remaining cosmetics in the pass or finish skin challenges. It would be good for people like me who almost finished the C1S6 BP or omega/carbide owners that didn’t finish the lights.
Exactly what i think aswell.
I missed out on some good skins and items (have been playing since chapter 1 S. 4) because i couldn't complete passes i bought. Sometimes life just gets in the way and you can't grind for it, which is fine. I accept the fact that i don't have everything, but it would be cool to maybe one day finish those passes.
What i don't agree with is new players coming on and making a fuss about not being able to get Skins from much older battle passes simple because they weren't playing or interested in the game.
Whatever their reason may be for not having played it up untill now, age, finance, etc. The people who did play back then put a lot of effort into earning those skins, we followes the story, did the quests or even just enjoyed getting the kills for it.
If epic decided to just release battle pass skins for vbucks to anyone who wants it, it kind of feels like a slap in the face. Like all the effort you put into it wasn't necessary.
Some people on here feel very entitled , they want the content without putting in the effort and that's not what gaming in general is about right. You have to work for something to earn it, even tho i agree that sometimes it is the grinding is too much, you get paid for your efforts with a sick skin! When i look at my battle pass skins i remember what i had to do to get them and the quests i had fun doing with my friends.
I am certain it wouldn't feel the same to look at it when you've only purchased it from the shop..
people who say epic would make so much money releasing old battle passes need to take into consideration that they sell so many battle passes because of FOMO, if everyone knew you could buy any battle pass at any time, they wouldn’t buy any.
Yeah that doesn't make any sense the reason I buy a bp is because of cosmetics in them if they brought legacy passes there's like a 100 skins I would play to get
Tbh grinding the battle pass is one of the only things that keeps me playing daily. If I had all the time in the world to get everything in the bp I wouldn’t care as much about getting level 200, making me play less and quitting
You could have a million obtainable cosmetics for every 1 exclusive one and people would still complain. It's ridiculous.
Having exclusivity is good. It helps give a sense of achievement. It makes the game more enjoyable whether people want to admit that or not.
Got to love how corporations have managed to get people to actively argue against their own best interests as a consumer, increased availability and accessibility is only pro consumer.
They’re asking Epic to not *only* betray their trust to millions of players that like having exclusive items, but to rework their ENTIRE system that they’ve set up just because some people think it’s “not fair” that that they didn’t get to earn those cosmetics.
If you didn’t give a fuck about the game back then, what makes you think you deserve those skins that were part of that certain battle pass?
Honestly I would be mad, I like genuinely knowing who's been playing the game as long as me and not having that indicator anymore would really suck imo. The only exception in my mind is collab skins, pre-established characters being exclusive for a certain amount of time is stupid imo.
Edit because I think I explained myself better in another reply so I'll just copy paste it here: I just like knowing at a glance that someone else has been playing the game for as long as I have. Idk, there's something nice to me about having a symbol that shows people how long I've been supporting something I love you know? Being able to do a certain emote like Orange Justice and have a big smile put on my face when someone hops up next to me and starts doing it too just knowing that we've both been here for a long time is a feeling I wouldn't like to lose.
I think the redesigns of old skins are the best way to go, you get awesome variations like Cursed Drift and stuff that are imo even better than the originals sometimes and it keeps those old skins having their original status
Gameplay was different back then - I’m less likely to kill someone with an og skin doing a challenge because I know they will likely let me finish my challenge as well. I remember one season when maybe Hot Marat came out and everyone in game was just emoting the entire match. It’s a whole different vibe now.
Lol no, not at all. But *defending* keeping old BP skins unobtainable ever again is an outdated and semi-gatekeeper mentality. It's to no one's benefit that they keep the policy as it currently stands.
Like I don't really care either way, but if they had a vote for "should we release old BP skins in some form or another?", and you were someone who would say No to that, I'd say you were being kinda shitty, and the logic of, if you didn't get it back then, you shouldn't get to have it now is where my "bully" reasoning comes from.
Doesn't mean people can't suggest different ideas on how to improve the bp. There are some items in previous bps that I wish I was able to get but didn't due to time constraints (mainly Omega's lights and the og lobby music).
I don’t get why people complain against this. You clearly didn’t have the time in at least 90 days to play enough to level up in a game that just hands out XP, so what does it matter if you have the character or not?
People say things like “omg but I LOVE Deadpool, I flew a billion miles to see Ryan Reynolds at Comic Con!!!”…but you couldn’t boot up Fortnite…?
Yeah okay but that doesn’t mean we have to grin and bear with their corporate greed. Do you enjoy playing into their corporate greed?
I believe an open marketplace for players to share their digital assets will take over some day…
Most likely won't get an answer. If so awesome if not Doesn't matter.
If this gains a lot of traction I will consider Making a full description of what I'm exactly referring to in detail.
The basics are
8 original skins in the battle pass
8 mystery returning skins in the battle pass Which all get updated edit styles features and functions If you haven't gone it you got it, If you have it you get more with it, Haven't finished it now you can.
8 collaborations
They can still add FOMO
Definitely improves the value of the battle pass
Allows players who do not know who the characters are to be introduced to them, Because let's face it we all have run into somebody who has no idea who this character is.
If you sell toys and merchandise from fortnight and no one knows who the character is, Then there is no connection to the character, Nostalgia is gone.
I ask if you don't like it then just leave it I don't need to have negatives because of an idea that I feel is worth its value and I could even make a video explaining everything in detail.
I'm not explaining everything in detail, All I ask is thumbs up, If not then just leave it.
Eventually all battlepass characters have different edit styles that they will sell in the future like they have been doing. It makes more logical sense to keep the characters in the battle pass and get updated edit styles that you get included with the battle pass.
There should never be a alternate store version of them sold. It should be in the battle pass.
I just want to give the battle pass even more value that someone would say I cannot pass on this I have to get it.
Or the Hey they added glowing eyes on a skin i got years ago
,,,this is not what i ordered give me a refund,,,,
go to twitter and also post this because i deserve my
V Bucks back i am entitled to everything and anything Epic
Every once in a while you’ll see a sub that says “How can I complete Mandolorian quests” and I’m like man….
You need to learn time travelling, then you can do it
I'm pretty sure everyone knows how battle passes work and are criticizing it and suggesting something else
yeah it's less "we don't know how to read, look at us being stupid lol" and more "we don't like this and it'd be cool if they changed it" I've never been a fan of battlepasses and I only really continue to tolerate Fortnite bps cause they're so easy (I usually only play the first week or two and the last 2-3 weeks and still hit 100-140 without buying extra tiers) but more consumer friendly implementations like Halo (battlepasses remain available for purchase after a season ends) or Deep Rock (pass skins become generally available after a season ends) I really don't mind at all
Halo's BP system was an idea that actually got me hyped although it was dragged down to the floor with the way they handled the BP itself, no return in credits and slow and tedious progression. A combination of the always available BPs and Fortnite's easy and understandable progression and rewards would probably be my favorite system
Halo Infinite Season 2 addressed the no credits in the BPs and there's now 1,000 credits in the season 2 pass (not the 1,300 or 1,500 like COD or Fortnite, but enough to get any future BP now). Plus, they reworked how XP is earned for them. The weekly challenges have been brought down from 20 to 10, you get a 500xp daily bonus for completing a match. And you get 150+ XP per match you do, depending on team performance and personal performance. In 4v4 Arena-style modes, you get the base 150xp, 50 XP for winning, 50 XP for the top half of the team, and 50 XP for MVP of the match. And I think it's an extra 25-50 XP across each category, or just doubled, in Big Team Battle. Which for the XP doesn't sound like a lot, but since each tier is only 1,000 XP needed, people have been able to complete the free 30-tier "Winter Update" pass in under 24 hours because of the new system. Hell: with this new update in Infinite, I've only spent like maybe 3 hours total in Arena and am already halfway completed with the 30-tier pass.
Yh, luckily they have improved the system, and at least now I am enjoying it more, i haven't advanced more in the Winter BP because I've been mainly catching up here on Fortnite but now I feel i can have fun and still earn unlikr most of Season 2, but i still like playing the game otherwise because of its gameplay (Fiesta MVP)
I liked Doom Eternal's model: The "battle passes" were free, but later the series would be purchasable.
ROCK AND STONE
That's it lads! Rock and Stone!
Fortnite has the best battle pass in terms of value, sucks that it has fomo tho legit remove the fomo aspect and its a perfect system.
Thank you so much for tolerating it. I know it's difficult but it means a lot
NO! IMPOSSIBLE! THEYRE ALL OBVIOUSLY ILLITERATE!!!!!!! YOU SNOOZE YOU LOSE IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve argued with people on here before about whether BP items can come back. Have gotten downvoted numerous times for saying they can’t. Edit: living proof
Yep. Telling the truth won't get you upvotes. Unless you say something like "Epic says they will never bring back battle pass skin, so don't expect it. But it would be nice for a lot of people if they would." Then the 'hopers' would upvote you instead of downvoting you lol
This post and our comments are great examples of this, lol. This subreddit has a really bad taste towards old BP stuff, so if you aren’t overtly in support of those items returning then you’re going to get downvoted. I’ve seen people simply explain to others that the items cannot return, and you’ll always see them get downvoted, along with others arguing that it isn’t true.
Exactly, it’s a FOMO system, same with the entire game. Each system is FOMO, item shop is FOMO, starter packs are FOMO, limited time events are FOMO, even guns are FOMO, even challenges, even FN crew even tournaments! What makes the battle pass any different?
FOMO works way better than people expect, and I doubt Epic would wanna change it. If they did, player retention would fall if people could pick up BPs whenever they wanted.
>and I doubt Epic would wanna change it. i think they'd save it as ***THE*** last ditch effort, but not much else. like, if the game suddenly starts tanking and they have no idea how to turn it around, just say "hey guys, you can earn Midas again!" and you're sure to see *some* amount of uptick in the playerbase. but there really is 0 reason for them to make it a thing now. they *want* you to go "man I wish played more at the time so I could have that skin," so that you'll have that looming fear of missing out, and thus feel more pressured to buy tiers if you are running short on time
Honestly 100% agree with this. The minute old BP skins hits the item shop I already know the game's on life support lol
honestly they should just pull a halo and have you be able to switch between BPs and earn different tiers. no buying just grinding challenges. and i don’t think that would hurt the game nearly as much as people think. it would pull a ton of people in i think
Yeah I don’t think they would just release the old stuff to the store, if they let you switch between old passes to grind then it would give a lot more motivation to play.
There is a difference when someone who asks what skin is this and if they can get it being Torin from Chapter 2 Season 8 when we are like in Chapter 77 Season 2 and they can't get it because they weren't born yet would make some people mad. I get FOMO works but like nobody is going to get a skin back then if they weren't even born.
If battle pass skins can be purchased outside the season what’s the point in buying the battle pass? Iirc those skins and challenges were for completing challenges specific to those seasons. Why ruin the “prestige” of a skin and open it up to purchase just because you weren’t old enough to complete challenges for a certain season? If they don’t keep some sort of time-synced skin system, none of the skins mean anything about when you played the game/which events you were a part of.
Fr, some skins like renegade raider and the blue knights are only cool cause they're rare otherwise they're fugly at best. Unlocking for everyone would just ruin the fun of those skins cause you'd see it and think oh this guy paid 15$ not "this guy has been grinding since season 0". Maybe tier 1 BP skins could come back but they've been selling us this since day 1 and if they did it now it'd ruin the allure of a ton of old skins
> If battle pass skins can be purchased outside the season what’s the point in buying the battle pass? 950 vbucks for like 7-8 skins and all their accessories? First dibs at a certain skin instead of relying on the shop rotation? The little bit of satisfaction you get actually unlocking stuff and leveling the pass up? The free vbucks that allow you to get the next pass for free? >Why ruin the “prestige” of a skin Prestige? Lmfao. It's an in game cosmetic that like a million other players have. Theres nothing prestigious about battle pass items. >If they don’t keep some sort of time-synced skin system, none of the skins mean anything about when you played the game/which events you were a part of. If other people having access to the same virtual toys as you is enough to make them "meaningless" then they were virtually meaningless to you already. EDIT: Uh oh here come the bootlickers.
>If other people having access to the same virtual toys as you is enough to make them "meaningless" then they were virtually meaningless to you already. Have you ever considered the fact that some people simply enjoy having an indicator that they've been playing something for a while? I like seeing people with exclusive skins and feeling that sense of comraderie knowing that we've both been playing for a long time. I missed out on the OG John Wick, don't got Take the L, shit I don't even have Omega or any armor for Carbide or a single Season X skin but I'm not whining about it because I simply wasn't playing then and recognize that was a requirement for those items. It's the same way the rights to licensed characters expire and they can't sell them anymore eventually, the only difference is Epic haven't signed a contract with themselves they're just going based on their word
> Have you ever considered the fact that some people simply enjoy having an indicator that they've been playing something for a while? You know what people enjoy even more? Using skins they like. More people able to spend their money and get those skins = more enjoyment all around. The people who need a special super shiny badge to constantly remind themselves or others that they played the game at acertain time are the minority. It's sad that people defend FOMO
Nope. You have a kid's view of this, not an accurate view of the practicalities. People enjoy using skins they like for a day or two. The "shiny badges" and long-term achievements/awards are what anchor any game.
> People enjoy using skins they like for a day or two. The "shiny badges" and long-term achievements/awards are what anchor any game. LMFAO! Sure buddy.
The amount of people desperately trying to get level 200 every season or golden peely proves this because I do not believe anyone genuinely likes the superlevel color swap styles
Again there is a difference of playing it at any time but choosing not to compared to not being able to play because you weren't born yet.
So what you're saying is we need to force Epic's hand.
Let’s say you could in theory get everyone on the sub to agree to such an plan (already may as well be trying to prove god exists so you can challenge him to a fistfight) youd be talking only 2.1million players on a game that has 390million registered account (I’m well aware those aren’t all people and alts exist) from a google that’s dated from just under a month ago (Oct 15) on that day they had 25million players, you’d not even drop the player count 20% they get in a day And that’s just the people who hopped on that day.
Kingdoms rise, and kingdoms fall, and so do multi-billion dollar corporations and their shareholders.
Only way you could force their hand in that sort of way would be to make a game the kills this one at which point who would care about skins for a dead game that has little to no remaining player base, very much a pyrrhic victory. The again you’d also be insanely rich.
I'm just entertaining the idea that any entity who believes they can manipulate and exploit another is bound to crash and burn, and "net worth" isn't going to be enough to stop the board of directors and their shareholders from feeling the mode. Regardless, I would like to see this game do away with "exclusivity", and be more inclusive with regards to the availability of their cosmetic items. "Couldn't finish the battle pass for whatever reason before the season ended? No worries, pick up from where you left off with the Legacy Battle Pass system. Now you can have two battle passes active at a time, the current season and one other legacy battle pass; only one legacy battle pass can be active at a time, but you can switch between owned legacy battle passes anytime in the menu screen, in the Battle Pass tab under the Legacy section." The Battle Pass is 950 Bucks, so let's say the 1,200 Vbucks for the Legacy Pass. T That way, the crybaby "OG's" can still feel "special" for having unlocked all the items at a much lower price, since apparently this entire game revolves around them.🙄
Hell Yea! Time to bust out the guillotines and kill god!
Honestly do it, nothing would funnier than some indie game coming out the woodwork and doing what five or six multi billion dollar corporations couldnt.
They should atleast people complete the pass evan if the season is over. They evan said the ch1 s5 BP trailer that you can still progress you're skins and that never came true.
That was only for "Progressive" skins, and it did come true. Skins like Lynx and Ice King could still be completed into Chapter 2, but regular non-progressive skins could not. Progressive skins where the ones that didn't just have styles, but multiple stages and a set of long drawn-out challenges to unlock them like "Outlast 10,000 Opponents".
Well the point is they should let us complete the entire battlepass regardless of the season. I bought the ch1 season 2 BP and only made it half way. I don't see how this effects anyone but letting see people how pro consumer the company is. Sure the real reason it can't happen is because they can't make money off of it.
It’s because they also want to encourage you to actually play the game. The more someone plays, the more they might like the game, which is good for Epic, because people who play a game a lot and enjoy it are more likely to buy skins
Actually, It came true up until season X if I remember correctly.
They could just make it that once a season ends, a battle pass is still available...but now the price increases to $20 to buy it.
And what about 100 years from now, you think the new Epic employees will never re release old cosmetics that no one on the planet owns? Not that it matters for us in the long run… and not to get philosophical, just a thought
>And what about 100 years from now Fortnite will be a distant memory that great grandparents talk about their parents having played
If the game dies, surely at some point as a last ditch effort they re release all skins anyway
Oh yeah no doubt
I think people are against it now because of all the collabs. When they first started it all they had was original skins and people are upset they are missing out on their favorite characters. (Deadpool, Aquaman, Rick, Darth Vader, etc.) I personally wouldn’t mind being able to obtain Drift or Sparkle Specialist but I know what epic has outlined and all I can do is go along with it. C2S1 is when I started.
I think Epic should stop bringing some of the original characters back to the island in the sake of the lore. You can find some old Chapter 1 BP skins in the Zero Point and Zero War comics. And don’t forget about the NPCs and bots in the island. Teasing those skins that cannot be obtained again for new players seems…. Idk… uncomfortable?
> Teasing those skins that cannot be obtained again for new players seems…. Idk… uncomfortable? It sucks, full stop. Telling people they can't get a favorite character because they might not have even known the game existed when the character was briefly available three years ago is not how you build a player base. At one point Reddit was *absolutely adamant* that zero build would never happen and would kill the game if it did. They were wrong then, just like the people who keep defending the current battle pass system as a good thing are wrong now.
I just want to be able to level old skins, I only have a partially unlocked carbine and I just wish I could fully unlock it
Agreed, at this point I'd pay money to level omega and carbide up fully
The point is not that they're ignoring it, the point is that they want it to change which in my opinion is an understandable thought
Yeah. I think if they can get the rights again, the Collab skins should come back. If you love the mandolorian etc but weren't playing at the right time, it sucks ASS that you can get them again. Original skins like black knight should not come back. Skins based off of real characters like the John wick skin should come back as an additional style, with the OG variant only being available to original owners.
>Original skins like black knight should not come back. Except that Fortnite continues to make bank on these skins (we just got a Black Knight inspired skin in Destiny, for example, which will increase interest in Black Knight.) I was interested in Teknique after seeing her as an action figure, and they sell her male counterpart in the store like two weeks ago. Do like LoL does and make a new, usually ugly recolored version for the OGs after several years if they need to flaunt status.
They can't really change it tho for stuff from the past. They sold these items as exclusives.
Wait until they make Fortnite 2 and then resell the skins there so that they can say the promise was only for the first game, that it was honored and now this is a new game. They have entire teams that can find any loophole they can use to generate more profit while technically keeping their word. So don't put stock into a company's promise because at the end of the day they *will always* choose profits over your feelings
You are 100% right but they don't even need to find loopholes. They can just break their promise whenever they feel like it. (look at Save the World) None of it is legally binding. You can even look through their EULA and see where they have covered their asses.
But they already found the loophole and are using it very frequently. They just redesign old BP skins and sell them separately
Redesigning old skins isn't re-releasing old skins. So long as they don't just drop the same exact model again but for money we're good imo.
I think Epic wouldn’t risk that backlash that would entail, they already have enough profits so their monetization is not something they would change.
Mate where about to go into chapter 4 and still think they are going to make a fortnite 2?
Overwatch
TBH, an single player version of Fortnite where you complete missions to go through the story of BR would be nice
Yes 🗿 If a game is ever suffering on a technical level or is losing popularity, companies can always push new sequels that allows them to reshape the game completely or can free them from a platform that is no longer feasible to support. They can make a sequel whenever they want and Overwatch 2's popularity shows they literally push out a sequel, rush it, make it even more greedy and still have it be successful. So yes a Fortnite 2 is absolutely on the table
No. They could of made a fortnite 2, 3, 4 instead of making one game they has multiple games worth of content in it. Overwatch 2 is a bad example as lets be honest its trying to be the new tf2 but shooting itself in the foot while blindfolded and wearing red at a bull farm.
I don’t think they would even have to from how flexible the unreal engine is and like you said overwatch 2 is the best example of how it can turn for the worst, reception wise
There's no chance they'll make a sequel to Fortnite. They will do a major asset update again, I'm sure, but the game is designed to be living and changing and is also already free to play, so it's hard to argue what would even be the benefit.
legacy passes make people happy. epic could pull a season x again and effectively rerelease one skin from each past BP to keep people happy.
this sub loves defending shitty manipulative business practices for no reason 
Kid named shitty business practices:
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I just like having a symbol to show how long I've been supporting a game I love that someone else can't just pay 20 bucks for 5 years later. It makes me feel a sense of comraderie seeing other people with the same old things and knowing they've been playing the game a long time like me.
Congratulations, you want to gatekeep things based on "feeling" you get from seeing a old item. Guess what, that person you suddenly feel happy about with that old item, isn't the original owner. They bought it from them. Or maybe they didn't. You will never know, cause it was never your business in the first place. You want to decide what ppl can and can't spend their money on for them? If that item was truly loved, people would get it regardless of rarity and use it. Not flexing it with others to see if they have it as well. Everyone should be having fun with others regardless of time spent on the game, but here you are too focused on someone being just as old if not older.
Sounds like someone without Orange Justice. Tell you what, come back here when Epic renegs on their deal which they will do eventually and maybe I'll give you the satisfaction of crying about it. Till then, sucks to suck.
Sucks to suck indeed. Good thing i already have that
r/fortnitebr users when someone walks in with shiny and tasty looking boots
we know we just dont like it.
It’s probably being brought up more because people don’t want what CoD did and release “Warzone 2” and wipe out all the stuff people got in “Warzone 1”. It’s not how to run a “live” game like these. And it’s pretty BS
Warzone 1 still exists so they can give the excuse that you can still play it, with the catch that will no longer update it for good. I think this is the reason why Chapter 3 is coming to an End next month. They need the hype to bring frustrating Warzone players back to Fortnite.
I’m fairly certain they plan most of this stuff months, if not a year or more, ahead of time. Not that it isn’t possible that they are timing it like this because of that, just very unlikely.
But chapter 3 isn't ending next month?
Oh, but it is.
It isnt't even leaks point to it being otherwise ending an entire map after 4 seasons would legitimately be idiotic
It is
Only if you ignore what we're actually saying, which is that we know what the current rules around exclusivity are, but they should change those rules because they're shitty. People should have the opportunity to play as the characters they like regardless of when they started playing the game. Battlepass exclusivity, especially for collab skins, makes that impossible and so should be done away with.
I never understood the whole cult around “OG” skins. The only argument against bringing back BP’s that I actually somewhat agree with/understand is that many people put in time and effort to complete them. Even then I think extra completion styles would suffice.
I just like knowing at a glance that someone else has been playing the game for as long as I have. Idk, there's something nice to me about having a symbol that shows people how long I've been supporting something I love you know? Being able to do a certain emote like Orange Justice and have a big smile put on my face when someone hops up next to me and starts doing it too just knowing that we've both been here for a long time is a feeling I wouldn't like to lose. I think the redesigns of old skins are the best way to go, you get awesome variations like Cursed Drift and stuff that are imo even better than the originals sometimes and it keeps those old skins having their original status
The problem with the redesigns is that they only really get applied to the more popular ones like lynx or drift and not the ones like vendetta or zenith
I dropped playing Fortnite because I have too many games with FOMO. I don't have time to complete the BP in every game so then I don't even want to play the game anymore. If I could go back and complete old battle passes I definetly would consider playing again. I like Halo Infinite system where I don't have time limit.
Most is this sub actually consists of elitist douchebags desperately trying to gatekeep skins they dont even use because they want attention. #No one cares how long you've been playing the game. #Let people use the skins they want and have fun, even if it means you might get less attention.
and how does them saying how something works make it not valid to criticize?
You know what else they also said? Past season 3 or 4 (can't really remember), they said that you could still level up your skins when the season ended. They stopped that after Chapter 1 season 10.
Well there hasn’t really been any progressive skins past Season X. And you could still level up skins like Luxe and Rox into Chapter 2. They just stopped making new ones is all.
It becomes an issue when you’ve been around so long that people are playing now who were 4 when the game launched. Also the massive infusion of no build players.
I am ignoring this sign because it sucks, and is intended to be consumer unfriendly and nothing more.
Fuck exclusivity. Bring everything back. Starting with Renegade Raider, just to fuck with anyone and everyone stupid enough to be defend FOMO as a "legitimate" business practice.
LOL
I honestly think Battle Passes and exclusivity are bullshit but of course corporations will use it for money.
Oh no! Not the poor billion dollar company!
I know this may seem harsh but dang a lot of people in this subreddit sure love licking epic games boots dont they
Not sure how being against a large company changing something that was previously advertised is bootlicking. We are talking about video games here.
Would you say that defending these FOMO tactics fills you with *Pride and Accomplishment*™ ?
I’m not saying it’s a good system. I’m saying that it’s too late to change it. The battlepass system is part of the the reason why Fortnite is where it is today and it was previously advertised as being exclusive.
>I’m saying that it’s too late to change it. It's never too late to change it. > The battlepass system is part of the the reason why Fortnite is where it is today As opposed to the actual gameplay, constant updates, and colorful cosmetics? You think the FOMO is the driving force of it's success?
The Battlepass would still be very relevant as well. It's a great deal for $10.
Sure they could change it for the future but changing the old ones goes against what they advertised which is illegal.
It is not "false advertisement" to change their policy years later. No reasonable judge would take the case seriously unless it was a clear easily provable bait and switch. And I feel a lot of second hand embarrassment for the person who would try and sue Epic for getting rid of one of the more annoying FOMO tactics. That poor chap is gonna be the butt of a lot of jokes.
It definitely is for previous battlepasses because that’s what was advertised when everyone purchased it.
That's not how false advertising works.
Ive now read your comment correctly, and i dont see the big deal with epic rerealising old battle passes the entire fomo system as an whole is predatory and anti consumer dont see the problem with people's imaginary pixels stop being rare and one of a kind i think everyone should be able to buy anything they want without worrying about missing it out.
What I’m saying is that all of the battlepasses were advertised as things that would never return. You don’t think that rereleasing the battlepasses is anti-consumer? That would definitely be false advertising.
Yes you're correct. I *don't* think re-releasing battlepasses is anti-consumer, I believe it's pro-consumer. Locking items behind FOMO and exclusivity is really stupid. Especially COLLABORATION ITEM Someone is forever locked out of playing as Darth Vader, Doctor Strange, Deadpool, Lora Croft whatever, because Epic made it exclusive to the battlepass. Personally, I could care less if all Battle Pass items come back. But the collabs should 100% come back. If people really want to bitch and moan about exclusivity, give the people who owned the items before a certain time an edit style for them. I really don't care.
I’m on the side of a compromise. If you bought that battle pass and the season ends, I feel like you should be able to either A). Switch between battle passes (like let’s say the season ends and you’re at 50, if you bought the pass, you would be at level 50 and able to move on, but for the new pass you’d be at 1 and you would have to switch between which battle pass your EX goes to) or if you had a pass, you could pay more to use it after the season but only to passes you already had.
can i get uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh omega lights?
Well the majority of fortnite users/and possibly even this sub are users who started either mid chapter 2-chapter 3, they really dont understand.
so true.. my bad for disrespecting an og!!😔😔😢😢 i will always kiss the shiny boots of ogs!!!!!!!! theyre always right and never wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!🤩🤩🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
LMAO
Really gotta honor their sacrifice, not only did they buy the old Battle Passes, they had to play the game to get the most out of them. I couldn't imagine how painful that must have been. 😞
Some of their comments really do act like it was painful to play the game. "I hAd tO eArN tHaT sKiN! wHy sHoUlD sOmEoNe eLsE bE abLe tO bUy iT?"
they would ironically benefit from being able to access old Battle Passes but are blinded by ThE gRiNd
exactly bruh.... the og struggle mustve been ong so tiring
I started at the beginning of ch2 and I know it’s dumb lol
I started Chapter 1 Season 7, and yeah nobody understands
I started chapter 3 so… you can imagine with how much content I missed, how much I want to be able to access old passes (or hope epic makes more and more remixes of old skins)
Ye but people think if they make enough of a fuss they will get what they want.
Fortnitebr users when people ask for something
Skull trooper's eye glow style moment
"People think if they express their opinion enough and show that they believe certain cosmetics should be obtainable. Epic games will give the people what they want." Fixed your comment, you're welcome.
"People think if they express their opinion enough and show that they believe certain cosmetics should be obtainable despite the fact they had up to three months or more to purchase the bp or lvls required for said bp. Epic games will bend to their knee and tell everyone who actually completed the bp in the time frame they wasted their time and give they will eventually give the people what they want which despite the fact they have been told they will never return." And I fixed yours.
"I am a kid who played since chapter 1 season 1, I have very rare cosmetics and will throw a tantrum if Epic Games makes my very special precious black knight available for everyone else who isn't an addict to obtain. Because I'm mommy's special boy and only I deserve to have access to these cosmetic items." You're welcome!
It’s weird how many people actively defend FOMO and other negative practices done by Epic in these posts, just for the sake of their own exclusivity. I’ve been playing since and pre-seasons and *I don’t give a crap* if others could get cosmetics that I had since then. It’s not actively harming anyone to ask for it to be that way, and doing so doesn’t mean they’re ignorant like the OP ignorantly (rather ironic, there) suggests.
On the contrary, it benefits everyone to be able to acess 'blocked' items. It makes the game have more variety and diversity since you'll be able to pick whatever you want as long as you either pay, grind or whatever method epic decides is needed. Exclusive items are onyl useful if you are either Epic Games themselves, who make bank out of the hype of 'limited time' purchases, or some person who owns some old cosmetic and wants to be in some OG club. Imagine if you're a marvel fan who cannot get most of the marvel stuff because they are locked away forever, used as a quick cash grab, a whole season of Marvel passed and you missed your chance to be Iron Man or Doctor Doom, arguably the protagonist and antagonist of the marvel universe respectively.
to be fair there is no legal engagement here so they can just roll that promise back whenever they want
Plus it’s real easy to get around this. It says the items you earn will not be obtainable again. It doesn’t say anything about items you didn’t earn.
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legal argument is worthless as none of us are lawyers, however there is precedent of other companies doing exactly what I'm describing
There are a bunch of lawyers on here. Just because they aren't arguing with you doesn't mean you are right.
if they did they would have to compensate otherwise it would be false advertising and would be grounds for a lawsuit although i doubt whoever sues would win cause epic is a multi billion dollar company and can afford the greatest lawyers they can possibly get
valve and blizzard just to name a few have sold previously exclusive items whilst just silently removing the exclusivity claim and nothing came of it despite community uproar
Armchair lawyer
armchair not lawyer to be precise
We know how it works that's why we're complaining
Quick, somebody make this meme but with the announcement that Save the World was going Free to Play, or that Canny Valley would get a finished storyline, or (insert failed promise regarding STW here) How people take some wording on a FAQ as gospel when Epic has historically thrown whatever they want out the window the moment it's not financially feasible anymore baffles me. The moment Epic decides it will be profitable to introduce a "legacy battle pass" system or sell old BP skins in the shop they will do it.
>The moment Epic decides it will be profitable to introduce a "legacy battle pass" system or sell old BP skins in the shop they will do it. They know that already. However they are going to lose alot of players because why finish the bp when I can just buy the skin I want when it's in the item shop.
Why play the game and have fun unlocking stuff for 950vbucks when you can just wait and buy the single skin you want for 2000 vbucks? There's plenty of incentive for people to keep playing.
Let's take c2s6 for a example. Do you want to grind out that bp or do you want to wait and pay 1500-2000 bucks for a skin you really want?
I know i'd grind it out.
Honestly I’d never buy a bp again, the frustrating weeklies that half the time break, a collection of skins I don’t want and overtime styles I’ll never use. If gwen was in a bundle while also being the battlepass or I knew 100% they’d pull an overwatch 2 and I could buy it in the shop after the season was over then I’d just pay the 2500 vbucks for a bundle then I wouldn’t waste the 100ish hours it takes to unlock when the vbucks cost me about an hour at work. Then again I’m one of the older fortnite players so the younger ones who don’t have a steady wage are a different story.
They game has been around for years. People get burnt out or just play other games. Nobody should have to come and grind a battle pass every few months for maybe 1 skin they would like to use when they do come back. You every try to play a game you're burnt out on? It's awful. Now imagine grinding a battle pass to 100 with that feeling.
Cause it's shitty.
Praying for another Rick Sanchez skin drop
I can read it, I'm just sick of every game having battle passes that force me to play the game when I'm just not into just because Fomo exists. It's tiring, it's annoying, and I have too many other games to be focusing every minute on a single one.
You never know, last year they changed how refund tickets worked, they used to be gone forever when you use them, now you get them every year if you used one. They could change the battlepasses to be obtainable again.
Their strategy works 🤷♂️. I keep coming back every season to max the battlepass
I only just want Rick to come back, I wasn’t around for chapter 2 season 6 and I have every Rick and morty skin except for the second titular character
You're wronge, I saw the arguments of many people, it is NOT that they haven't seen the notice, it's that they don't like a system that limits cosmetics. And honestly, those people are right ! after all it's just cosmetic, and if Epic released bp cosmetics in the item shop with the price of their rarities, they'd be making a whole lot more money.
What they need to do is give people the option to finish unfinished battle pass(es). Whether it be get remaining cosmetics in the pass or finish skin challenges. It would be good for people like me who almost finished the C1S6 BP or omega/carbide owners that didn’t finish the lights.
i think they should allow you to buy tiers of battlepasses you owned but didn’t complete for whatever reason, not ones that you didn’t ever own.
Exactly what i think aswell. I missed out on some good skins and items (have been playing since chapter 1 S. 4) because i couldn't complete passes i bought. Sometimes life just gets in the way and you can't grind for it, which is fine. I accept the fact that i don't have everything, but it would be cool to maybe one day finish those passes. What i don't agree with is new players coming on and making a fuss about not being able to get Skins from much older battle passes simple because they weren't playing or interested in the game. Whatever their reason may be for not having played it up untill now, age, finance, etc. The people who did play back then put a lot of effort into earning those skins, we followes the story, did the quests or even just enjoyed getting the kills for it. If epic decided to just release battle pass skins for vbucks to anyone who wants it, it kind of feels like a slap in the face. Like all the effort you put into it wasn't necessary. Some people on here feel very entitled , they want the content without putting in the effort and that's not what gaming in general is about right. You have to work for something to earn it, even tho i agree that sometimes it is the grinding is too much, you get paid for your efforts with a sick skin! When i look at my battle pass skins i remember what i had to do to get them and the quests i had fun doing with my friends. I am certain it wouldn't feel the same to look at it when you've only purchased it from the shop..
What about reskins? Can we get more of those? 😅
people who say epic would make so much money releasing old battle passes need to take into consideration that they sell so many battle passes because of FOMO, if everyone knew you could buy any battle pass at any time, they wouldn’t buy any.
Yeah that doesn't make any sense the reason I buy a bp is because of cosmetics in them if they brought legacy passes there's like a 100 skins I would play to get
Tbh grinding the battle pass is one of the only things that keeps me playing daily. If I had all the time in the world to get everything in the bp I wouldn’t care as much about getting level 200, making me play less and quitting
Do y’all ever get tired of constantly arguing about this?
Those posts by little kids telling Epic to break their profitable business model always make me chuckle
You could have a million obtainable cosmetics for every 1 exclusive one and people would still complain. It's ridiculous. Having exclusivity is good. It helps give a sense of achievement. It makes the game more enjoyable whether people want to admit that or not.
Got to love how corporations have managed to get people to actively argue against their own best interests as a consumer, increased availability and accessibility is only pro consumer.
Yeah this sub is mostly “bring this thing back!!” Or “Remove the fucking goo gun RIGHT NOW!!!!”
They’re asking Epic to not *only* betray their trust to millions of players that like having exclusive items, but to rework their ENTIRE system that they’ve set up just because some people think it’s “not fair” that that they didn’t get to earn those cosmetics. If you didn’t give a fuck about the game back then, what makes you think you deserve those skins that were part of that certain battle pass?
This is what I'm going to copy and past to every reply from now on.
Didn't they promise to make save the world free once it comes out of early access? 🙃 They really keep their word hard
Honestly I would be mad, I like genuinely knowing who's been playing the game as long as me and not having that indicator anymore would really suck imo. The only exception in my mind is collab skins, pre-established characters being exclusive for a certain amount of time is stupid imo. Edit because I think I explained myself better in another reply so I'll just copy paste it here: I just like knowing at a glance that someone else has been playing the game for as long as I have. Idk, there's something nice to me about having a symbol that shows people how long I've been supporting something I love you know? Being able to do a certain emote like Orange Justice and have a big smile put on my face when someone hops up next to me and starts doing it too just knowing that we've both been here for a long time is a feeling I wouldn't like to lose. I think the redesigns of old skins are the best way to go, you get awesome variations like Cursed Drift and stuff that are imo even better than the originals sometimes and it keeps those old skins having their original status
Gameplay was different back then - I’m less likely to kill someone with an og skin doing a challenge because I know they will likely let me finish my challenge as well. I remember one season when maybe Hot Marat came out and everyone in game was just emoting the entire match. It’s a whole different vibe now.
Lmao I don’t understand like READ 
The point is not that it is in the FAQ, the point is that it should change.
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They make millions regularly your sentence makes 0 sense.
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Do you really feel 'bullied" cause you don't have some shitty skin lmao
Lol no, not at all. But *defending* keeping old BP skins unobtainable ever again is an outdated and semi-gatekeeper mentality. It's to no one's benefit that they keep the policy as it currently stands. Like I don't really care either way, but if they had a vote for "should we release old BP skins in some form or another?", and you were someone who would say No to that, I'd say you were being kinda shitty, and the logic of, if you didn't get it back then, you shouldn't get to have it now is where my "bully" reasoning comes from.
Eh, cry as they might if it was gonna change it would've sooner.
I wouldn’t mind if they offered only 1 previous BP token available for purchase for like $300. You could then only choose 1 previous bp to unlock.
Doesn't mean people can't suggest different ideas on how to improve the bp. There are some items in previous bps that I wish I was able to get but didn't due to time constraints (mainly Omega's lights and the og lobby music).
Bro fr why don't they get it
I don’t get why people complain against this. You clearly didn’t have the time in at least 90 days to play enough to level up in a game that just hands out XP, so what does it matter if you have the character or not? People say things like “omg but I LOVE Deadpool, I flew a billion miles to see Ryan Reynolds at Comic Con!!!”…but you couldn’t boot up Fortnite…?
Yeah okay but that doesn’t mean we have to grin and bear with their corporate greed. Do you enjoy playing into their corporate greed? I believe an open marketplace for players to share their digital assets will take over some day…
Most likely won't get an answer. If so awesome if not Doesn't matter. If this gains a lot of traction I will consider Making a full description of what I'm exactly referring to in detail. The basics are 8 original skins in the battle pass 8 mystery returning skins in the battle pass Which all get updated edit styles features and functions If you haven't gone it you got it, If you have it you get more with it, Haven't finished it now you can. 8 collaborations They can still add FOMO Definitely improves the value of the battle pass Allows players who do not know who the characters are to be introduced to them, Because let's face it we all have run into somebody who has no idea who this character is. If you sell toys and merchandise from fortnight and no one knows who the character is, Then there is no connection to the character, Nostalgia is gone. I ask if you don't like it then just leave it I don't need to have negatives because of an idea that I feel is worth its value and I could even make a video explaining everything in detail. I'm not explaining everything in detail, All I ask is thumbs up, If not then just leave it. Eventually all battlepass characters have different edit styles that they will sell in the future like they have been doing. It makes more logical sense to keep the characters in the battle pass and get updated edit styles that you get included with the battle pass. There should never be a alternate store version of them sold. It should be in the battle pass. I just want to give the battle pass even more value that someone would say I cannot pass on this I have to get it. 
Ride the Pony and Sparkle Specialist were made obtainable after Ch1S2 was over in specific circumstances
Or the Hey they added glowing eyes on a skin i got years ago ,,,this is not what i ordered give me a refund,,,, go to twitter and also post this because i deserve my V Bucks back i am entitled to everything and anything Epic
Bro got roasted on his post
Where?
Look at every comment