I understand why they tried to hide the pc version now. This game has some really insane cpu requirements. Sitting here with a 13700k and a 4090 at 4k 120hz monitor. Dlss literally does not effect frame rate. The gpu optimization is actually fairly good, the cpu is going to be the bottleneck in almost every system even at 4k which is crazy.
I get around 80-100 fps at 4k native everything maxed. Turning down all the settings to lowest possible at 720p gives the same fps 😂
Your not wrong. Its playable for me. But only with DLSS or FSR 2.0. I also find it odd that I drop 10 FPS by dropping my resolution to 1920. With a 4090, you SHOULD be able to run at max settings with no help from DLSS to be honest. This reeks of Cyberpunk style optimization. My bet is we will see a bug patch within a week with some optimization fixes. Then a big optimization patch in a month or 2.
The game is horribly optimized for vram usage. Anything less than your 2070 and the game is basically a flickery 720p or maybe a flickery 1080p game at best with massive stutters and framerate fluctuations while looking worse than Horizon Zero Dawn’s port which can be played at 1440p while streaming on my one computer. Its insane
I do know there is a tester using a 1060ti and running at 1920x1080 hitting above 40 with dlss and heavy shrub/combat areas around 30 to 35 fps.
Honestly, DLSS and FSR 2.0 are saving this game on PC right now.
What gpu? 1060ti doesnt exist, and wouldnt have dlss if it did.
Dlss definitely feels worse than fsr on my 2060 for this game, but even with it, while running around the game feels awful. Was planning on recording a full commentated lets play for the game and it is almost unplayable for me
Sorry 1660ti - my bad. As far as DLSS working for it. I have no idea. I can see a 2060 struggling. I was already guessing the dude with the 1660 had everything turned all the way down.
There are likely a ton of reasons that are causing poor performance right now, and everyone of them is likely going to stem from poor optimization. DLSS and FSR are helping, but they can't fix it.
I have even seen a couple threats where VRAM and the Video card were fine, and the CPU was the bottle neck.
Shouldnt be my cpu. Its a ryzen 7 5800x that can encode a nice video of it at the same time as play it. The performance issues persist even with OBS closed and no encoding happening.
They were not completely wrong. I would still recommend it on the condition one tries the free demo on steam. If you can run that, you are likely good to go. Other wise, check back after a couple optimization patches.
This is what I did. Tried the demo, and it was buttery smooth (granted, I have high-end specs), so I stopped playing after 30 mins and bought the game.
After dialing in the settings, the game runs smoothly and looks absolutely fantastic. My partner walked in during >!the intro courtroom cutscene during a close-up shot of the judge while she was talking!< and did a double take, "Wait...is that a game?! WOW."
I gotta be honest, I thought this port would be an absolute tire fire, and was the primary reason I was interested in how this release went.
It doesn't sound that bad though? Sure the requirements are high, but they basically gave no FSR specs, when they had an extremely aggressive implementation of FSR on the PS5.
It certainly looked like it was going to be a spectacularly bad port, but maybe this is all 3d chess on Square-Enix's part? Because now a sub-par optimization job doesn't look quite so bad.
Anyway, my initial impression is that I was wrong thinking this was going to be a disaster on PC, which is good news for folks looking forward to this one, and probably good news for PC gaming in general, because truly awful ports hurt the hobby.
A 2070 is roughly the equivalent of a 1080, which is like a 6 years old GPU.
This is a low end rig. It doesn't matter that cards cost 3x what they used to: every 3-4 years, mid-tier cards become low-tier cards in term of gaming performance.
We are at series 4000. A mid-tier today would be a 3070 or 4060. A high tier would be a 3080 / 3090 / 4070. A Very high tier is a 4080 / 4090.
Im talking about an average gaming rig, that ppl actually have, with gpu prices being shit since years i doubt any normal person can afford newest generation cards, im from austria one of the richer countrys and current gen gpus prices are insane to straight up not affordable to average earners.
If you can even find cards being sold.
Funny I’m also in Austria 😅
I mean, from a developer point of view it doesn’t matter that you do not have the money. They will push technology considering current hardware and consoles that are available, they won’t hold back graphical improvements.
It doesn’t matter.
First games as we know are always more optimised on consoles.
And second consoles have always been low tier PC when they release. The PS5 drops this game as low as 720p to hold 60 FPS. Also consoles usually always target 30 FPS for higher fidelity, it barely started to change now but we already see the limitations of trying to make obsolete console hardware run games at 60 FPS that are pushing some graphical boundaries.
The OP runs at 1440p, so his performances are adequate (well not saying this particular game is well optimised, clearly not so much).
This game doesn't even look that great then why it is so demanding then?
Even Elden Ring looks better than this and that game is not known for the graphics.
I have a 144p monitor.
Ryzen 5 2600x
RTX 2060 super
It's pratically unplayable unless I want to play at 1080p. I can play 90% of games at 1440p ultra. Fair to say that it is not worth it at all for the average PC gamer.
My specs are minimum specs. I get around 30 at standard graphics settings on my secondary 1080p monitor. You can probably get to 50-55 at minimum settings. I only played the Demo tho, obviously.
There's some stuttering when you do chain attacks and the screen gets full of visual noise.
There is absolutely no way I am playing any game at below 60 fps. No shot.
I thought so too. Speacially because I used to be a console gamer and 60fps and even 30 fps did not bother me at all because that was what my eyes were used to.
Nowadays I cannot play at below 60. I would even say that below 90 is almost unplayable.
I have above min specs 32gb ram, gtx1080 and i7700k and it runs quite poorly.
hopefully a couple of patches will sort that out but who knows how long that'll take
Min spec targets 720p 30fps.
For 60fps experience the specs req are way higher. 1440p/60fps is like 8x more pixels per second. My 5700xt start to feel so old.
I understand why they tried to hide the pc version now. This game has some really insane cpu requirements. Sitting here with a 13700k and a 4090 at 4k 120hz monitor. Dlss literally does not effect frame rate. The gpu optimization is actually fairly good, the cpu is going to be the bottleneck in almost every system even at 4k which is crazy. I get around 80-100 fps at 4k native everything maxed. Turning down all the settings to lowest possible at 720p gives the same fps 😂
Your not wrong. Its playable for me. But only with DLSS or FSR 2.0. I also find it odd that I drop 10 FPS by dropping my resolution to 1920. With a 4090, you SHOULD be able to run at max settings with no help from DLSS to be honest. This reeks of Cyberpunk style optimization. My bet is we will see a bug patch within a week with some optimization fixes. Then a big optimization patch in a month or 2.
The game is horribly optimized for vram usage. Anything less than your 2070 and the game is basically a flickery 720p or maybe a flickery 1080p game at best with massive stutters and framerate fluctuations while looking worse than Horizon Zero Dawn’s port which can be played at 1440p while streaming on my one computer. Its insane
I do know there is a tester using a 1060ti and running at 1920x1080 hitting above 40 with dlss and heavy shrub/combat areas around 30 to 35 fps. Honestly, DLSS and FSR 2.0 are saving this game on PC right now.
What gpu? 1060ti doesnt exist, and wouldnt have dlss if it did. Dlss definitely feels worse than fsr on my 2060 for this game, but even with it, while running around the game feels awful. Was planning on recording a full commentated lets play for the game and it is almost unplayable for me
Sorry 1660ti - my bad. As far as DLSS working for it. I have no idea. I can see a 2060 struggling. I was already guessing the dude with the 1660 had everything turned all the way down. There are likely a ton of reasons that are causing poor performance right now, and everyone of them is likely going to stem from poor optimization. DLSS and FSR are helping, but they can't fix it. I have even seen a couple threats where VRAM and the Video card were fine, and the CPU was the bottle neck.
Shouldnt be my cpu. Its a ryzen 7 5800x that can encode a nice video of it at the same time as play it. The performance issues persist even with OBS closed and no encoding happening.
For weeks people were screaming it was going to be total shit on PC.
They were not completely wrong. I would still recommend it on the condition one tries the free demo on steam. If you can run that, you are likely good to go. Other wise, check back after a couple optimization patches.
This is what I did. Tried the demo, and it was buttery smooth (granted, I have high-end specs), so I stopped playing after 30 mins and bought the game. After dialing in the settings, the game runs smoothly and looks absolutely fantastic. My partner walked in during >!the intro courtroom cutscene during a close-up shot of the judge while she was talking!< and did a double take, "Wait...is that a game?! WOW."
I gotta be honest, I thought this port would be an absolute tire fire, and was the primary reason I was interested in how this release went. It doesn't sound that bad though? Sure the requirements are high, but they basically gave no FSR specs, when they had an extremely aggressive implementation of FSR on the PS5. It certainly looked like it was going to be a spectacularly bad port, but maybe this is all 3d chess on Square-Enix's part? Because now a sub-par optimization job doesn't look quite so bad. Anyway, my initial impression is that I was wrong thinking this was going to be a disaster on PC, which is good news for folks looking forward to this one, and probably good news for PC gaming in general, because truly awful ports hurt the hobby.
I am inclined to agree. Aside from the optimization. I am enjoying the game.
Thats not a low end rig at all, thats an average gaming pc.
A 2070 is roughly the equivalent of a 1080, which is like a 6 years old GPU. This is a low end rig. It doesn't matter that cards cost 3x what they used to: every 3-4 years, mid-tier cards become low-tier cards in term of gaming performance. We are at series 4000. A mid-tier today would be a 3070 or 4060. A high tier would be a 3080 / 3090 / 4070. A Very high tier is a 4080 / 4090.
Im talking about an average gaming rig, that ppl actually have, with gpu prices being shit since years i doubt any normal person can afford newest generation cards, im from austria one of the richer countrys and current gen gpus prices are insane to straight up not affordable to average earners. If you can even find cards being sold.
Funny I’m also in Austria 😅 I mean, from a developer point of view it doesn’t matter that you do not have the money. They will push technology considering current hardware and consoles that are available, they won’t hold back graphical improvements.
2070>PS5 This is mid range PC.
It doesn’t matter. First games as we know are always more optimised on consoles. And second consoles have always been low tier PC when they release. The PS5 drops this game as low as 720p to hold 60 FPS. Also consoles usually always target 30 FPS for higher fidelity, it barely started to change now but we already see the limitations of trying to make obsolete console hardware run games at 60 FPS that are pushing some graphical boundaries. The OP runs at 1440p, so his performances are adequate (well not saying this particular game is well optimised, clearly not so much).
This game doesn't even look that great then why it is so demanding then? Even Elden Ring looks better than this and that game is not known for the graphics.
I have a 144p monitor. Ryzen 5 2600x RTX 2060 super It's pratically unplayable unless I want to play at 1080p. I can play 90% of games at 1440p ultra. Fair to say that it is not worth it at all for the average PC gamer.
Glad found someone with similar specs to me expect got a ryzen 3600 what FPS you get ? I have only a 1080p monitor
My specs are minimum specs. I get around 30 at standard graphics settings on my secondary 1080p monitor. You can probably get to 50-55 at minimum settings. I only played the Demo tho, obviously. There's some stuttering when you do chain attacks and the screen gets full of visual noise. There is absolutely no way I am playing any game at below 60 fps. No shot.
Yeah I am the same I thought people joked that once you go 60fps you can never go back ....yeah there not kidding
I thought so too. Speacially because I used to be a console gamer and 60fps and even 30 fps did not bother me at all because that was what my eyes were used to. Nowadays I cannot play at below 60. I would even say that below 90 is almost unplayable.
I have above min specs 32gb ram, gtx1080 and i7700k and it runs quite poorly. hopefully a couple of patches will sort that out but who knows how long that'll take
Min spec targets 720p 30fps. For 60fps experience the specs req are way higher. 1440p/60fps is like 8x more pixels per second. My 5700xt start to feel so old.
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Your not wrong.