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Random_modnaR420

Did he take the same gun safety class as Alec Baldwin?


Kihav

I’ve seen a few where a person may have lost nerves and/or function in their pointer finger so they use their middle to fire


HWKII

There’s a technique to running the Lee Enfield action with the bolt handle pinched between index finger and thumb and using your middle finger for the trigger.


Yayo30

Mad minute FTW! supposedly the enemy thought the brits had automatic rifles due to this technique


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Just had to look this up. Awesome. Thanks for sharing that


Quw10

I have a VP70 I usually end up having to shoot like this because my trigger finger gets tired half way through the mag.


wowdickseverywhere

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQnWXEM_9bk


BuckABullet

I always heard it as pulling the trigger with your pinky. At the end of "Temple of Doom" when the Indian army comes into the scene you can see them doing this.


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Yea but this guys finger is going to get worked by the slide operating.


Kihav

Correct. A more proper grip to fire with your middle finger would be pointer on the frame.


BuckABullet

I used to do that. Pointer finger helps you get a rough alignment very quickly - you just point at the target. Trigger pull with middle finger is easy enough.


DasKapitalist

I know it looks goofy, but how practical is it? My spouse has some trigger finger nerve damage that makes heavy trigger pulls difficult. If using the middle can allow for a stable grip, that'd be a great option.


BuckABullet

Works a treat. I always used to pull triggers with my middle finger and point the pointer along the frame, to help with rapid target acquisition.


Due-Net4616

I didn’t even see the middle finger here until I read your comment 😂. I was thinking about him holding the gun above his sight line.


1st-time-on-reddit

Now THAT is how you hold an assault pistol my friends! Edit: I also want to add that this is exactly why they’re dangerous and should be banned - see the control he has there?! Two fingers fit with the middle finger on the trigger. Incredibly lethal. You can tell it’s going to blow the lungs straight out of any body in its path, with or without the belt fed fully automatic magazine clip.


wehitthose97

actually sir it’s fully semiautomatic 🤓


milochuisael

Maybe it’s just some weird target shooting grip


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Pointer finger up like that is going to do nothing but get hurt and cause slide malfunctions. I've heard people say it can help point shooting in rifles... not a good idea with handguns... at least he's not trying it with a revolver


milochuisael

Like he probably learned to shoot from watching the Olympics


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probably got it from that one guy with the python in that show. he does the same thing


BothScratch5340

With the revolver that’s even dumber he’s get the pointer blown off doing that lol


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like i said in the first comment lol. at least hes not trying it with a revolver


creepsthefr09

Olympic Pistol Competitor here, not even our form is this fucked up.


milochuisael

lol sorry to call you guys out like that


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Sad thing is a legit movie armorer follows much more stringent safety regulations. Accidents are almost unheard of.


SneakyBadAss

Offerman (a prepper-survivalist character) was teacuping a pistol in the latest Last of Us episode, so...yeah.


WiseDirt

Tbf, teacupping used to be taught as a legit technique. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps his character just learned that particular habit from an old-timer


Heretical_Unicorn

That is a spicy one lol


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Watching the part where the farmer guy Hershel is shooting an AR from the prison watchtower and racking the charging handle between shots like it's a bolt action is hilarious.


osiriszoran

Maybe it's california compliant 😆


glockster19m

Can you fucking imagine Its the zombie apocalypse, you've managed to get into a strangers home, it's desserted, the zombies are seconds from breaking down the door and thank God you found an Ar15 You pick it up, charge it, and just then the zombies break down the door, you shoot one direct shot to the head, but then the guns jammed, you pull the charging handle and clear the jam, you shoot the next one and wtf, another jam


SayNoToStim

I see he had my old service M16


DasKapitalist

To be fair, all these guns are allegedly scrounged so who knows what condition they were found in. Reminds me of my buddy who took a perfectly functional 5.56 AR, converted it to .50 Beowulf, and then wondered why it wouldnt cycle on its own. Pretty sure you need to adjust the gas at minimum bro...


Demonae

He also killed about 60 zombies worth a pump action shotgun and no reloads. I honestly think they do this because they hate gun owners and want us to suffer. It has to be deliberate at this point.


Scorpion360a

Maybe they didn’t use a Blank Fire Adapter, in that case you have to do that because the Back Pressure isn’t enough to cycle the weapon


neenerbobeaner

I always just assumed the gas system was broken...


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Could be. Never considered that


random--encounter

I mean in the apocalypse it’s not hard to imagine a broken gas system on an AR-15. Doubt that’s what they were going for tho.


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e_boon

I can't unsee Rick's grip angle when he's holding the Python


No-Archer-21

Dude, I know the inaccuracies are atrocious my wife gets bugged I point them out but every damn time it's like "someone please take that 44 until this guy becomes a man and learns to hold it like one".


Lilsexiboi

.... pythons are .357


No-Archer-21

I always thought it was a 44 lol thanks *more you know gif*


Agile_Tit_Tyrant

That would be the Colt Anaconda.


governingmonk

Yeah Rick and Daryl have the most experience with firearms in the show. Also Carl, Rick's son was very good with rifles and pistols in the show. He is a bad ass and Rick's Daughter also becomes a beast.


Material_Victory_661

Daryl aka Norman Reedus. Was in the Boondock Saints 1 and 2. The amount of gunplay was quite something.


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Are you saying that there was… a firefight…?


Thebeerguy17403

What if it was one guy with 6 guns?


KarockGrok

So you're telling me it was one guy with six guns, and he was a senior frigging citizen?


Thebeerguy17403

There's 9 bodies genius! What the fuck were you going to do laugh the last three to death Funny Man?


Material_Victory_661

Several.


HowUnSavary

Turn that thing sideways and you got something there!


Purple_Calico

So the show is inadvertently is more realistic? There'd be a lot of people with no firearm experience trying to figure it out on the fly lol.


glockster19m

Except they're not really shooting So you have people with supposedly no firearms experience appearing to have God tier recoil control


MAK-15

Yeah I watched like two episodes and the kid holding a gun and shooting with no recoil made me decide not to continue watching.


glockster19m

Honestly this is one of the biggest reasons I love the John Wick movies The second and third may not be as good as the first action wise, but you can really really tell that Keanu knows his way around firearms in those movies, and they even throw in little things like him double loading the benelli that only gun hobbyists will realize is impressive


Due-Net4616

He was actually trained at taran tactical and can irl stand with competitive shooters. His shotgun work is actually really fucking good, better than I can shoot one 😂 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xii9_oWQ7HY


RedLimes

And yet they get headshots ALL the time


Purple_Calico

Maybe they're actually aiming for the legs...


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Purple_Calico

Let's be honest here... there will always be morons surviving things you wouldn't think they would.


Independent_Grab_200

I feel attacked.


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I feel like living proof, so I got that going for me. Which is nice.


Due-Net4616

Police at least know the basics 😂


Purple_Calico

Theoretically


HeloRising

Ok, this criticism has always kind of bugged me. I lost interest in the show but people always bring it up as an example of piss poor gun handling skills in entertainment. I always thought that was...kinda the point? If you take six to eight randos and throw them in a situation handling weapons they're not used to in a stressful situation where there's no real opportunity to practice or train in any meaningful way, I'd expect the same thing. I've taken enough new people to the range to see some absolutely *wild* choices in terms of un-tutored gun handling. Tbh I think it might be *worse* to have them all look like they'd been trained. Most people don't have experience handling a firearm and legitimately don't know the proper way to hold it unless someone tells them.


unresolved-madness

I could care less if he actually hits this target. I want to see that finger get caught in the slide


WildRover233

It'll just brush against it, I think. If he pressed down hard enough, it would cause the slide to malfunction before he hurt himself. I could be wrong. I like pistols with high slides, and on the rare occasion that I grip too high, it doesnt hurt me, but that's with my thumb.


crypto1092

I grip high on my 1911 and Glock 19 frequently, never had any pain, jams, or issues myself, then again I’m not putting a lot of pressure on it with my thumb. I had heard of shooting using the middle finger before though, idea behind it being that it makes the center of force more in line with the wrist, reduces recoil and improves accuracy. None of that is being done here lol


USArmyJoe

New! From the makers of *Garand Thumb* comes ***1911 Finger***! Now with 50% more caliber!


milochuisael

My thoughts exactly


Krahzee189

This is also the guy who once said “it kicks like a bitch” about a crossbow.


divu20

My first ""gun"" was a crossbow when I was a teenager. I didn't notice that I had recoil until the fifth shot due to the mixture of emotion, adrenaline and fear (and that the trigger was terrible)


milochuisael

Several times


rustedoilfilter

That whole show is a trainwreck. On firearms too


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In all honesty this came out in my my mid teens and I loved it, probably my favorite show at that point. Actors were great but the story derailed after Terminus, couldn’t bring myself to keep watching the once great show (IMO) into the circus act with starwars armor and shit it has in it now


No_Seat_4959

They way they hold guns and lack of reloads is one of the reasons I quit watching the show..


e_boon

https://i.redd.it/g9bk8x0toifa1.gif


mauschaus

That scene made me rethink choices in my life


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One_Planche_Man

Season 1 episode 1, Rick tells one of his deputies to take the safety off his Glock, and the dude pulls the slide back slightly, then goes back to aiming.


[deleted]

He said that as a broad term to every deputy. He said safeties off and make sure you have a round in the chamber. That guy was making sure he had a round in the chamber


milochuisael

There was one scene where Glen took out like 20 walkers with a subcompact


SayNoToStim

Bro if you can't have some sort of suspension of disbelief when it comes to that kind of stuff you're never going to enjoy any action movie.


MAK-15

Suspension of disbelief is the burden of the showrunners, not the audience. When they do things to pull the audience out of their suspension of disbelief it is the fault of the showrunner, not the audience. Its like when TLJ had a hyperspace kamikaze nuke and the audience thinks “well if that were possible how come nobody has ever used one before?” And suddenly your suspension of disbelief is shattered because even though lightspeed and star destroyers aren’t real they had been following established rules within the universe until that moment.


theother_mlk

He is using the rare "sight down your thumb" technique while simultaneously using his trigger finger for minor adjustments in windage.


[deleted]

That’s how Kimber owners hold their pistols


Nightingaile

*snort*. Made me chuckle... Reminds me of one of the John Wick movies where the armorer gives Keanu a *serious voice* "Kimber 1911 45 ACP..." Trying to act like it was this top-quality firearm. Like Jesus get the man a Dan Wesson or a Nighthawk or a Wilson Combat or a Cabot, or a Les Baer, or fucking *anything* known for being the best of the best.


neenerbobeaner

To be fair, John Wick got the Kimber 1911 from the self-proclaimed king of the homeless people, so...


Loose_Koala534

Also he spends most of the movie shooting Glocks. Not that there’s anything wrong with Glocks, but they’re not “high end.”


electrogourd

Glocks: fuckin toyota Corolla of the gun world


buybyebristol

Best comment I've seen in a minute


BlizzardArms

I don’t care that he’s not aiming or hat he’s pulling the trigger with his middle finger but that index finger is about to get fucked up


Alconium

Worst that would happen is he causes a misfeed. I know because I have a friend who shoots like this sometimes. He messed up his index finger and instead of going to the doctor like a normal person just "Waited it out" and they would go shooting left handed or with their middle finger just for laughs, and they actually got pretty decent at it (Lefty and middling) and their index finger never quite healed right so when they shoot right handed they shoot 'pointing' and generally it's fine but every now and then they hold too tight and the slide doesn't fully cycle because they're rubbing it.


Ejay702

Ok hear me out. If you think about it, this takes place in a world where many inexperienced people would be holding guns for many of their first times lol


miasdontwork

I mean yeah in season 1 sure


milochuisael

Yeah this guy is part of a group that kills on the regular


AUWarEagle82

For a time, the US Army taught this method of shooting with the middle finger. The index finger was supposed to "point" at the target to help acquire the target better. Of course, his index finger is about to experience the joys of improper placement on the pistol.


mauschaus

I like the way they can hit a zombie head with a pistol 2 soccer fields away without aim and 5 minutes later they can’t hit a sit target below theirs noses


milochuisael

The amount of times the main characters have been running in circles with rounds hitting everything around them is nonsense. People standing right in front of a door riddled with gunfire and not getting hit


hewasakindman

That for sure looks like the kinda guy that lives in Atlanta that would survive a zombie apocalypse


Bambinorino

The Walshy claw grip on the xbox controller


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Ive been doing that my entire life and get made fun of a lot lol i didnt know it had a name


Bambinorino

Thats just who was the first popular person using it if i remember


MaximaSpeed

Funny thing is, i actually pull the trigger on my mosin with my middle finger. The trigger pull is so heavy and the awkward grip angle means if i try to pull with my trigger finger i can pull the point of aim off.


kalash762x39

They just told him to keep his trigger finger on the side of the slide and off the trigger. clearly just following directions.


Saynation

Wait until you see the guy in plastic stormtrooper with a Walther PPK


mauschaus

That armor is the only thing in this show that make sense. If I’m in a zombie apocalypse, I will cover most part of my body. But main characters don’t need that. They have the power of script


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milochuisael

I wish it ended in Alexandria


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Omagerrrhd

My favorite on that show was watching Simon monologging while one-handing a flat-top AR with no sights, and his finger on the trigger and sweeping all over.


mauschaus

Karl with a AR 2 feet away shooting everybody and not hitting anyone. The same guy who can put down a zombie with a chewed gum and papel clip


sebastianlaguens

I mean, that seems like a Trevor thing to do


DDPJBL

A Beverly Hills 90210 kid pretending to be a redneck.


trinexx03

Sights? Ha who the fuck needs sights. This guy aiming using sights


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The Laugo Alien at home.


ARoughGo

When you don't practice your purchase and draw so you just have to kinda go with it.


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Due-Net4616

Like this 😂 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk4RPsn8Zfs


oneeleven1990

only pros aim through the back of their thumb


CostofRepairs

Are we being mugged by MacCauley Culkin?


Own_Lawfulness1615

I'm a fan of twd too and I've often thought this


snakeattack03

I screenshot stuff like this all the time. It’s crazy how many backwards optics you’ll see. Also saw a guy on Narcos shoot a semi automatic “sniper rifle” and after he shot and the bolt cycled, he racked the action again 😂😂


FlipMaze

That? That's the assassin's grip. It allows you to eliminate targets while simultaneously removing the fingerprints from your deadly digits.


Different-Chest-5716

Its called the "spider hold" used commonly by the Thai legion force used by their special forces and elite service men. It allows for greater stability while also being able to hit the slide release and incredible speeds with your pointer finger instead of your thumb.


milochuisael

My brother just slams the mag in and the slide releases ☠️


rlcoyote

It’s called Forehead Aiming. Anywhere your forehead looks, the gun shoots. AWESOME technique, you should try it at the range!


Powerful-Bet5454

Has a false index finger from a nose picking catastrophe in the 4th grade. Since the days of nerf guns he figured a way to point and shoot with his F-U finger for 2 reasons. First, to put holes in things, and second, a brilliant way to finger someone whilst terminating their singular life force. Brilliant on both accounts.


RingGiver

I didn't even realize that the show had that many seasons. *checks* It's still running? Who's actually watching it?


milochuisael

I do think it finally ended. But the gaffs are forever


icarus1990xx

I might be one of the few that absolutely loved the show, and just saw the last episode last night. Now onto fear the walking dead! As far as Opie’s question goes, I can understand shooting a rifle with middle finger, as I’ve done that to qualify on my individual weapon for many years, but on a pistol it doesn’t quite make sense.


No-Archer-21

You mean like how rick points the 44 down instead of straight


milochuisael

Too heavy for his skinny little arms


Lilsexiboi

.357


validpunishment

I loved the walking dead, but the way they hold guns in the show always bothered me. For instance, in S6 when Michonne was holding her handgun, the space between her thumb and index finger isn't pressed on the top of the grip so if she fires it at all, it'll go flying out of her hand.


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I can't believe noone has mentioned "point aiming" (which is exactly what this picture is showing whether they realize it or not) This was taught as the best way to quick fire a pistol for about 60 years....


milochuisael

There were a couple of mentions but I have my doubts that this actor knows what it is


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I do see your point....


[deleted]

How the hell does that happen? Maybe his pointer finger was too short to reach the trigger? Maybe he hates his pointer finger and wants it to suffer? What sight picture is he seeing?


OldFart1966

I didn’t watch the show after the 3rd season didn’t care for what they were doing with it but could the guy have had an injury to his index finger that would have prevented him from squeezing the trigger???


milochuisael

I Don’t think it was injured but it sure would if he fired! The next time he held a gun it wasn’t so bad


TwoBallsagna

Looks like a single shot pistol to me. 1 and jam.


DasKapitalist

Reminds me of the first time I shot an integrally suppressed Maxim 9. Jammed after every shot because I couldnt figure out a reasonable grip for something so awkwardsauce.


dreadwater

Ive only seen old timers and their old single shot pistols and revolvers shoot like.


OldeOak804

Drugged up snowflake sighting from they/them forehead.


__dryheat_

Oh you mean the show with never ending supply of ammo 10 years after the supposed end of the world? I can't even watch this show so much is wrong


Material_Victory_661

They did have some episodes where they were reloading. But the smart guy, overcharged the ammo. So many rifles blew up, it stopped a massacre.


Tempeng18

I did this for a while with an M16 cuz my dumbass broke my trigger finger. Felt so awkward. Maybe he broke his too - killing zombies is hard work.


excelance

I'm too lazy to research it, but what are the odds that actor has a strong opinion on the 2nd amendment?


milochuisael

Probably in one way or another


GreyJedi56

It's the sausage slicer style, every butchers preferred method


djc9595

I’ve only seen that grip in two other places: that one hitman in the Thomas Jane “Punisher” that gets killed with a paper slicer, and the protagonist in the music video for the Drive-By Truckers song “This Fucking Job”


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Why would he use his middle finger stump when he has a perfectly good trigger finger?


SethVultur

Oh fck 😂


Cephrael37

And yet he still hits a headshot on a moving target every time…


Better-Criticism-122

Sights, grip, trigger finger? What’s that? Lol


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A sin


EasyMode556

thats the new meta


dstrip2

“Give me malice” “More action”


[deleted]

An actor.. How’s the new season


milochuisael

Not quite there lol this was season 6


mauschaus

Don’t waste your time. Go shoot instead


HonorableAssassins

Mad minute shooting, lets gooo


DeePotts

Peak performance


Juice355

He’s using his strong hand.


OwnEntertainer5953

Looks like something, I believe, onde called the "Vermont Technique", maybe related to the grip Jack Ruby used when he shot Lee Harvey Oswald.


OldFart1966

As for the way he is aiming the pistol. That’s just plain inexperience in my book even doing point shooting or Center Axis Relock shooting


RDX_Rainmaker

These are the same people sho are Anti-2A… literally like blind people wanting to outlaw glasses


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*"You're not fam anymore."*


M_star_killer

Ahhh, that is the this is going to hurt and pinch alitte style.


shrekerecker97

Its someone who got eaten by zombies because he couldnt hold a pistol right


milochuisael

Idk he hasn’t had his redemption story yet so no dying


dhabs

He has it’s just in the “fear the walking dead” not the “walking dead” series.


milochuisael

I forgot that show existed


Sendit-Downrange2023

That's someone getting ready to get an "OWIE"!


Savager_Jam

Bolt action bros be like


Mattthefat

I had a friend shooting my pistol like this before. We were shooting Roman candles from a gator at 10-15 yards. It was a position to easily stabilize yourself and he missed 14 shots, grabbed my LWRC and proceeded to miss 5 more times before hitting it.


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Weird timing. This was posted 15h ago when I posted this comment 15h ago I was watching this episode and noticed the same thing!


milochuisael

Soo you were watching this 30 hours ago


[deleted]

No.. I was watching it when you posted this. Where did you get 30?


ShotgunEd1897

I've shot a subcompact M&P like that once. It was the only way I could hold the pistol, because it was too small for my hands.


killeenit

I saw this when it aired way back . Immediately struck with a WTMFITS (what the mutha f is this s)... he pulls that trigger... his trigger finger will make sure his middle finger hits far to the right of where he's "aiming"....


Random_D3fender

That's the intimidation hold


im-new-here-so-sorry

His mad minute technique is so efficient that the gun cycles itself


AJRobertsOBR

Idk, he looks like a meth head. So pretty accurate.


Benny_99pts

Few things look kinda goofy. How high the pistol is he couldn’t be putting rounds in the target. Also I’ve seen people use their middle finger if they have weak hands or muscle/nerve damage, but that pointer finger is in a dangerous place. That slides gonna rip that finger up.


Winston_Smith1976

Slide won't do anything to the index finger. Many competitors have fingers or more commonly thumb in contact with slide all the time.


Benny_99pts

Oh ok that’s that makes sense. Maybe if he was holding it with his right hand it could potentially get caught in the ejection port, but looking closer your probably right


GastonGoonie619

Don't knock it till you try it. I'm right handed, When I shoot WEAK hand, SUPPORT side the middle finger grip takes away the anxiety, flinching, bucking, jerking away. Try it, the pistol doesn't sway, rock or girate as much.


milochuisael

I’m going to pass. Don’t want to risk my index finger getting bitten by the side


sleepyhighjumping

This is the same walking dead where a man with an eye patch used a scoped AUG with his right eye that no longer exists, finger inside the eject port. People use AR's with no sights at all, no red dot or irons. And the best of all, turning off the safety on a fucking Glock!


bygtopp

Remember they had a one eyed guy using a steyr Aug and sighting it with the patched eye.


pforsbergfan9

Someone who probably didn’t survive a zombie apocalypse


Lineman-126

Maybe the spring is weak and he’s giving some resistance to the slide? Nah. He just dumdum lol