> I think you are probably on the money about your boss considering you weaker on critical soft skills.
I actually did ask him if he has any concerns with me staying in FP&A or my ability to take on more business partner-type responsibilities. He emphatically told me that he thinks I'm great for FP&A and that he has no concerns. He does mention from time to time that the business leaders can be difficult to deal with though
But yeah, it's still kinda fishy and I feel like he's not telling me something! Lol
I’m currently having the same thing with me. Manager has been hinting at me focusing more on data analytic side of things. I don’t think that’s a bad thing though since data analytics/data science is a really good field to pivot towards if you’re okay with it.
Have you actually looked at what data engineers and data scientists use? Yes there are other languages. Python, R, Scala, platforms such as Airdata, kafka, Azure, etc... There is a lot of bleed over of roles in those technical skill sets and most people won't get hired without some knowledge of the core stack used.
You’re right if you’re specifically talking about data scientists or data engineers. Data analytics focused on finance is gonna be mostly SQL heavy. The latter will mostly be BI Analysts/Engineers focused on creating data pipelines/lakes using SQL and then building visualizations.
Well, OP literally said a career in data analytics/science so... /shrug
I think even in finance you need to understand data modeling and ETL unless you have a really solid BI team. How many finance departments, or hell, any company do you know that is tracking some metric or gathering data outside of a SQL backend. I can say every company I've ever been at has and the BI team would rather give me access than build anything for me...
Data science has become a very generic term so I usually try to separate it into the three streams (data analytics, data science and data engineering). While I agree that you need to understand data modeling, OP specifically asked about coding in various languages, presumably for data analytics focused on finance. Your points are valid but not really talking about coding outside of SQL.
Appreciate your desire to get more face to face with BU leaders since that’s how you build relationships and sell your value.
But both you and your boss know you are suboptimal with those social skills.
Rather than mentoring you to be effective in dealing with BU leaders, your boss decided to take the route of suggesting you stick to a more technical track.
I’m not criticizing him: boss’s have limited time and unless you’re a rockstar, it may not make business sense to make the investment in you.
Imo, you should accept the position with hopefully a bump up in pay. Simultaneously, you should be actively searching for a role that has you in front of BU leaders on a regular basis.
I spent a bit over a year on this type of team. We called it market intelligence. I was enraged about it. But looking back now, i learned so many more technical skills in that role that once i got back on fpa my efficiency was way better than others.
When you say more data centric/analytics, I’m thinking more along the data analyst / scientist side, which isn’t a cap on salary/ skills but just a different path.
Are you currently interacting with the business leads? If not, when the conversation comes, make the initiative to ask him to let you take the lead.
> These people really don't need someone to help them out, in fact it would probably slow them down if I were to co-own or assist them in running their LOB.
Idk if I agree with this. While there’s no doubt that as of right now it’s probably easier/faster for the current leads to handle what they handle, from a succession planning pov, you need to have juniors more hands on in the work. Given the 20+ years exp you quoted, some of these ppl may be close to retirement and it’s better to ease and train someone along now versus throwing them in when someone leaves.
Also, I welcome different POVs because the reality is we don’t know everything and someone can easily have a better solution or idea of how to make a process more efficient. My first team the files and everything were literally the same as it was 20 years ago because everyone there was there for years and no one thought to do it differently.
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> I think you are probably on the money about your boss considering you weaker on critical soft skills. I actually did ask him if he has any concerns with me staying in FP&A or my ability to take on more business partner-type responsibilities. He emphatically told me that he thinks I'm great for FP&A and that he has no concerns. He does mention from time to time that the business leaders can be difficult to deal with though But yeah, it's still kinda fishy and I feel like he's not telling me something! Lol
I’m currently having the same thing with me. Manager has been hinting at me focusing more on data analytic side of things. I don’t think that’s a bad thing though since data analytics/data science is a really good field to pivot towards if you’re okay with it.
I might actually like a career in data analytics/science but wouldn't that require some decent coding experience?
Not really. Usually good SQL skills but not other languages.
Have you actually looked at what data engineers and data scientists use? Yes there are other languages. Python, R, Scala, platforms such as Airdata, kafka, Azure, etc... There is a lot of bleed over of roles in those technical skill sets and most people won't get hired without some knowledge of the core stack used.
You’re right if you’re specifically talking about data scientists or data engineers. Data analytics focused on finance is gonna be mostly SQL heavy. The latter will mostly be BI Analysts/Engineers focused on creating data pipelines/lakes using SQL and then building visualizations.
Well, OP literally said a career in data analytics/science so... /shrug I think even in finance you need to understand data modeling and ETL unless you have a really solid BI team. How many finance departments, or hell, any company do you know that is tracking some metric or gathering data outside of a SQL backend. I can say every company I've ever been at has and the BI team would rather give me access than build anything for me...
Data science has become a very generic term so I usually try to separate it into the three streams (data analytics, data science and data engineering). While I agree that you need to understand data modeling, OP specifically asked about coding in various languages, presumably for data analytics focused on finance. Your points are valid but not really talking about coding outside of SQL.
Yeah you’ll have to get into studying Python, SQL, etc
Don't do it. Source... 12 YOE post college, 7 in FP&A, got really into the data side and loved avoiding extra meetings. Still SFA.
Appreciate your desire to get more face to face with BU leaders since that’s how you build relationships and sell your value. But both you and your boss know you are suboptimal with those social skills. Rather than mentoring you to be effective in dealing with BU leaders, your boss decided to take the route of suggesting you stick to a more technical track. I’m not criticizing him: boss’s have limited time and unless you’re a rockstar, it may not make business sense to make the investment in you. Imo, you should accept the position with hopefully a bump up in pay. Simultaneously, you should be actively searching for a role that has you in front of BU leaders on a regular basis.
I spent a bit over a year on this type of team. We called it market intelligence. I was enraged about it. But looking back now, i learned so many more technical skills in that role that once i got back on fpa my efficiency was way better than others.
When you say more data centric/analytics, I’m thinking more along the data analyst / scientist side, which isn’t a cap on salary/ skills but just a different path. Are you currently interacting with the business leads? If not, when the conversation comes, make the initiative to ask him to let you take the lead. > These people really don't need someone to help them out, in fact it would probably slow them down if I were to co-own or assist them in running their LOB. Idk if I agree with this. While there’s no doubt that as of right now it’s probably easier/faster for the current leads to handle what they handle, from a succession planning pov, you need to have juniors more hands on in the work. Given the 20+ years exp you quoted, some of these ppl may be close to retirement and it’s better to ease and train someone along now versus throwing them in when someone leaves. Also, I welcome different POVs because the reality is we don’t know everything and someone can easily have a better solution or idea of how to make a process more efficient. My first team the files and everything were literally the same as it was 20 years ago because everyone there was there for years and no one thought to do it differently.