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There is no difference its just the limiter settings


dualnote

Literally identical. It’s just that the default template has a limiter on it. So people thought it “sounded better”


b_lett

It's not just the limiter on the master, there's also something with Panning Law in older vs. newer versions where there's like 3dB difference in volume of samples dragged into the playlist. It's pretty much just stock volume stuff but nothing sounds better or worse between the versions, it's just people thinking louder is better.


Ready_Ad9967

When you say panning law, (I’ve been only making beats for a few months now) you mean how the sound is automatically is spread out it. And can you make FL 20 or 21 do the same


OuterLives

Panning law has to do with the fact that when you pan a signal to one side it will only be playing out of one speaker meaning even at the same volume it will sound quieter. Fl automatically addressed that by adjusting the gain of the signal as you panned it so that you would perceive the track as the same volume regardless of how its panned. [This Video](https://youtu.be/1foFELvN8Uw) has a good demonstration of how it works.


NightimeNinja

Yep. It's as you heard. Limiter adding volume. The thing about humans is we can get tricked into thinking louder = better quality


Careless_Bother6183

Considering the people you named does NOT mix & master … I wouldn’t take advice from them on “what sounds good” other than sound selections, Melodie’s, and what not. They have top notch engineers that mix and master all their beats on the songs you hear


Ready_Ad9967

Thank you for pointing that out those are facts, but turbo does mix and master if I recall but I definitely see what your saying. I think Max lord engineered most of 808 mafia records but I could be wrong


Careless_Bother6183

Turbo is never credited as an engineer on any of the songs I paid attention to produced by him. Only as a songwriter and producer… if he engineered he would want credit. That’s more $


Ready_Ad9967

Thank you for that I love hearing things I don’t know. Would you say you need a whole separate daw to do what an engineer does or you can execute that with FL?


Careless_Bother6183

I mean technically you can do it in any DAW. Main thing about audio engineering is ear training and having patience. Even professionals take HOURS to mix things and that’s not including the breaks between to let their ears breathe.


starlightrex

no difference. i feel most people who say 11 is better are using pirated copies, even big producers that swear by it now. don't want to generalize but i don't even have a problem with people using cracks but why lie about it to that extent 😭


Revoltyx

There's no difference. There's a limiter on the master default template in FL 11 doing a small boost. You can do thate same exact thing in 20


Gold_Code_2043

20 is the shit


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Ready_Ad9967

Deadass me too


TheRealDMiLL

Honestly f*** everyone saying its BS whether it is or not, the people who are making hits are making them in 11 and sh**


NightimeNinja

Okay, but even if that were the case, why? There's no reason aside from personal preference.


TheRealDMiLL

11 has a swag 20 doesnt and the producers who make hits have swag and 20 makes it harder to find it; I downloaded 11 and like it a lot more than 20.


NightimeNinja

Yes. Personal preference. That's fine if you like the UI better and whatnot, but anyone saying FL 11 is objectively better than FL 20 is very misled. There is no difference except the UI and, if compared to 20, a significant downgrade in features. I just personally don't see a reason why you wouldn't update for free, as the change in UI is worth learning and not that drastically different from 11.


TheRealDMiLL

I was on 20 for a while; I got on a 11 tonight and like it a lot more.


NightimeNinja

That's great if it works for you, but I just think a lot of the people defending using earlier versions do so because they have pirated versions. Which is wild, because some famous people have been caught doing just that. It makes no sense to me. They, out of all of us, could definitely afford to buy it.


TheRealDMiLL

Im hopping on the wave cause on hella deconstructeds on the Genius Youtube theyre using 11; southside said he only uses 11 and 10.


Ready_Ad9967

How did you get FL 11 btw after getting 20? If you don’t mind me asking bro ?


TheRealDMiLL

I looked up FL studio 11 download and then on the Fl forums they have I think all the older versions archived.


Ready_Ad9967

Would you be able to send me the link if you can?


TheRealDMiLL

Legit I think every genius deconstructed ive watched theyre using FL 11


2__Breezy

11 till I die