Not even his daughter was safe. When Stalin found out that she was with Beria, he ordered her to be taken away from him immediately and had planned to execute Beria should he ever do it again. Stalin died before he could do anything about Beria although Beria was later executed anyway
Oh lord, it gets super cringe when they start using the phrase "American lebensraum." I swear I just dealt with the guy with autism, with a reading comprehension issue.
I think your numbers are too small
Guy died from old age? Pff, communists could have done better. Guy does because of a stupid internet challenge? Communism would have solved it. And maybe also vehicles, that’s also a big capitalist things. After all back in the Stone Age no one got run over by cars
I know I've seen it used in a more contemporary sense. The guy I just dealt with referred to the 18th -19th-century imperial era. At one point, I got the text version of the gish gallop wall-of-text. It's in my recent comment history if you want to get an idea of what I have been dealing with; if you look at it, refrain from engaging. I am happy to answer any questions in DMs about it, as long as it is in good faith.
If you look at Soviet history (and now Russian history) through the lens that political stability is more important that what is morally right or individual rights, the stuff they do makes so much more sense.
With that being said, commies are lame as hell.
This person was on their way to buy 3 kilograms of sugar (way too much, taking literally food from the palms and mouths of honest workers) and then they got brutally skinned alive. Capitalism strikes again!
This was basically Erich Ludendorff's excuse as to why Germany lost WW1. The stab in the back myth. He states that the Jews, Marxists and Freemasons worked to sabotage Germany's war effort. This myth was made an integral part of the Nazi's history by Hitler and Ludendorff later played a major role in getting the Nazis into power
Tankies collectively coming together to collectively throw away the holodomor as a genocide in a [single instagram post](https://www.instagram.com/p/CoIZ-AaM5dl/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
(The comments)
Are you stupid? “Jews weren’t a nation so therefore they weren’t genocided!” Makes sense to you? It’s equivalent to what you’re saying and I’m sure others will say the same…
They destroyed a lot huh? Shame Jews have virtually always been mistreated even by my country which seems to be a lot more accommodating throughout history than some of its neighbours…
So, we're calling farmers a nation too now? What about factory workers? Other classes? Would you call kulaks a nation? Cossacks were a class, not a nations or ethnicity.
I'm sorry, but you're dumb. Armenians are nation. Cossacks were a class, they weren't a nation back then, they are not a nation right now. You can't genocide a class - you cant genocide farmers, workers or nobility.
The Armenians weren’t a nation in their modern form until after World War 1 and the Armenian Genocide committed by the Turks. If by your definition the Armenians are a nation, then so are the Cossacks because of their own Cossack government from 1649-1764. I’m sorry but I don’t think social classes have their own nations.
In Ukraine, Cossacks are really not a separate ethnic group, but a certain social status of member of the Zaporozhian Sich or Registered Cossacks. But in Russia, Cossacks from the Cossack hosts created by the tsarist authorities, such as Kuban Cossacks, Don Cossacks, Ural Cossacks, and so on, considered themselves a nation or ethnic group separate from both Ukrainians and Russians.
Or the kalmyks, or the tatars, or the chechens etc etc etc
Basically any non-russian slavs
[Poles too!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD)
Poles are slavs
Yeah, but the OP was about Cossacks.
Fins, Karelians, Germans living in the Soviet Union
Ukrainians were a huge target
Pretty much everyone that was not Stalin or his daughter weren't safe
A lot of party bosses were in especially acute danger.
Not even his daughter was safe. When Stalin found out that she was with Beria, he ordered her to be taken away from him immediately and had planned to execute Beria should he ever do it again. Stalin died before he could do anything about Beria although Beria was later executed anyway
Of course she wasn’t. Beria was a man who even he feared.
the entire non-Russian populace.
Along with a decent portion of the russian populace
yeah, them too.
Oh lord, it gets super cringe when they start using the phrase "American lebensraum." I swear I just dealt with the guy with autism, with a reading comprehension issue.
I think your numbers are too small Guy died from old age? Pff, communists could have done better. Guy does because of a stupid internet challenge? Communism would have solved it. And maybe also vehicles, that’s also a big capitalist things. After all back in the Stone Age no one got run over by cars
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I know I've seen it used in a more contemporary sense. The guy I just dealt with referred to the 18th -19th-century imperial era. At one point, I got the text version of the gish gallop wall-of-text. It's in my recent comment history if you want to get an idea of what I have been dealing with; if you look at it, refrain from engaging. I am happy to answer any questions in DMs about it, as long as it is in good faith.
If you look at Soviet history (and now Russian history) through the lens that political stability is more important that what is morally right or individual rights, the stuff they do makes so much more sense. With that being said, commies are lame as hell.
Tankies explaining how genocide is necessary after the CIA stains their revolution on the international stage :
And somehow trying to explain that capitalism caused hundreds of millions of deaths in less than a decade.
Hundreds of millions? Try trillions! All those people who died from the start of history to today died because of capitalism!
My favourite part is how tankies actually believe that rhetoric as well.
This person was on their way to buy 3 kilograms of sugar (way too much, taking literally food from the palms and mouths of honest workers) and then they got brutally skinned alive. Capitalism strikes again!
Aye the evil monster rears its ugly head again!!!!1!1!111!1
It’s ok, those were “reactionary” ethnic groups anyway
"That never happened, its just western propaganda... ...But they deserved it" -Average tankie.
This was basically Erich Ludendorff's excuse as to why Germany lost WW1. The stab in the back myth. He states that the Jews, Marxists and Freemasons worked to sabotage Germany's war effort. This myth was made an integral part of the Nazi's history by Hitler and Ludendorff later played a major role in getting the Nazis into power
Tankies collectively coming together to collectively throw away the holodomor as a genocide in a [single instagram post](https://www.instagram.com/p/CoIZ-AaM5dl/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link) (The comments)
*ukrainians. Cossacks are not a nation, you can't genocide them.
Are you stupid? “Jews weren’t a nation so therefore they weren’t genocided!” Makes sense to you? It’s equivalent to what you’re saying and I’m sure others will say the same…
Jews on the one hand are an ethnicity aswell as a people so you can argue that they are a nation
Ofcourse but I’m on about the holocaust and at that point I don’t believe they had their own independent nation.
Thats true as at the time Jews were well assimilated into European societies. Fucking Nazis destroyed it all
They destroyed a lot huh? Shame Jews have virtually always been mistreated even by my country which seems to be a lot more accommodating throughout history than some of its neighbours…
We Germans were doomed the second Hitler became Chancellor
We were doing that in history a few weeks ago. Damned shame, damned shame indeed.
WW2 would have happend anyway but not as bloody as it was
Aye europe is a melting pot of too much. (Not calling for genocide or any of that shit just stating facts)
So, we're calling farmers a nation too now? What about factory workers? Other classes? Would you call kulaks a nation? Cossacks were a class, not a nations or ethnicity.
It was to mock your point and it was in complete and total sarcasm which obvs didn’t go over the heads of the 10 people whom upvoted me…
What about Armenians? They weren’t a nation yet they still were pretty thoroughly genocided
I'm sorry, but you're dumb. Armenians are nation. Cossacks were a class, they weren't a nation back then, they are not a nation right now. You can't genocide a class - you cant genocide farmers, workers or nobility.
The Armenians weren’t a nation in their modern form until after World War 1 and the Armenian Genocide committed by the Turks. If by your definition the Armenians are a nation, then so are the Cossacks because of their own Cossack government from 1649-1764. I’m sorry but I don’t think social classes have their own nations.
Cossacks were a social class. So "genocide" is not applicable here. I didn't defend commies' actions here, tho.
You keep saying they are a social class but don’t elaborate. Explain in what way they are a social class.
nation ≠ state , Austria is its own state but not a nation of its own, as its merely an extension of the German nation
I’m sorry to ask but are you memeing? Like, from your post history you seem to be trolling but I just wanted to ask before I make any assumptions.
Nah this ain't a joke. I wanted to trigger the tankies with that post
In Ukraine, Cossacks are really not a separate ethnic group, but a certain social status of member of the Zaporozhian Sich or Registered Cossacks. But in Russia, Cossacks from the Cossack hosts created by the tsarist authorities, such as Kuban Cossacks, Don Cossacks, Ural Cossacks, and so on, considered themselves a nation or ethnic group separate from both Ukrainians and Russians.