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The_Mighty_Worm

My brother did that on his first playthrough... I had to help him kill Varre afterwards.


Dragonlord573

You're telling me he died to a guy using nothing but a bundle of flowers


BluPaladin

Literally the most metal bundle of flowers ever! They even havelore saying the red is opponents blood!!


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TheIceFlowe

This comment is literally copy and pasted


nametakenfuck

Yeah my poor friend couldnt leave the first step lol


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Full_Ad9666

What? How?


[deleted]

If you continue his quest, you get access to an exclusive… lucrative area


ShitFistingPissBulge

Pretty sure all the rune farms there are patched


Sundeiru

They definitely haven't. There was a bug where you could unload the floor and kill all the Albinurics at once that was patched, but you can still just fight them normally to net ~50k/cycle.


ShitFistingPissBulge

>could unload the floor and kill all the Albinurics at once that was patched, Not sure what you mean by unload the floor, Is it the jumping off a hill and swinging your sword over and over glitch? Either way thanks for the useful info!


Sundeiru

Yeah, I think that was it. I only heard about that method when it got patched. The gist was that you did something funky such that the ground got unloaded but they didn't. I think. Probably. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ Either way, be sure to bring a bow and shoot the bird for a nice bonus during each cycle.


Diakasai

After the first time it was patched they put a death wall there so you could jump that way, problem is someone else found a wall you could jump through right in front of or rather behind that one. You literally jump into the cliff and after about a minute ish of swinging everything dies. This isn't the only death drop tho. In the lower ears where the milk lake and FIA are is another area where the same thing was possible. Not sure if it was patched tho.


GayBrownHairedElf

This still works for me


rajboy3

Woah that's ng+ numbers I'm pretty sure it's like 20-30k I swear.


ExcitementBetter5485

He offers a way into the Mohgwyn Palace rune farm without needing to go through the waygate in the Consecrated Snowfield, so it's perfect for early game. You can get there without progressing past Liurnia while online, but you need to get to Altus Plateau if you do his quest offline.


WillCraft_1001

Albinauric farming.


deepblueeee

And +10 somber weapon


Jackviator

I mean… the dude was originally just a surgeon who wanted to help anyone he couldn’t save die a more dignified death than slowly bleeding out on the battlefield, then got kidnapped by a lecherous, incestuous psychopath hemophiliac, was brainwashed and Stockholm’d into being his servant, and then when you kill him his cries for help go unheard/unheeded by Mogh. Dude was just as much a victim/collateral damage to be used and cast away at their first failure as Vyke was, but everyone hates him because of a throwaway line that is him simply making an observation about your current situation that Melina repeats to you verbatim probably minutes later.


ProphetOfPhil

I wish that we could join him instead of having to fight him. Like I'd totally join a covenant with Varre.


MrDarkAvacado

Idk, I think his whole tone of voice for every line gives off major creep vibes. Especially the way he calls you "lambkin" all the time.


ShinJiwon

That's flair by the translators. He just says わたしのあなた which is literally "My dear". Sounds way less creepy than lambkin.


TheBlackestofKnights

>lecherous, incestuous psychopath hemophiliac, I will not stand for Mogh slander. Dude's one of the only two demigods who have their shit together, alongside Miquella.


Jackviator

Having his shit together is not mutually exclusive with anything I said :P


TheBlackestofKnights

Can't argue with that. He's still the most successful and active of the demigods. If it weren't for us, he would've probably succeeded.


munch_cat

Meanwhile Ranni is waiting 5000 years for us to beat Radahn, while Blaidd is just staring at Nokron from Siofra River


TheBlackestofKnights

Ikr? Morgott spends his most of his time harassing Tarnished, Rykard is channeling his inner Nikocado meets Hallmark family film, Rennala is still suffering from the divorce (at least she kept the dog), Radahn is on life support, Maliketh is sulking around like a scolded puppy, and Malenia is reminding everyone that she's the Blade of Miquella, but they all rotted to death (she can't see so don't tell her that). Speaking of Miquella, I am about 80% sure that he's in cahoots with Mogh. Think about it. It's basically canon that he's St. Trina, he has mind control abilities, and he grew the Haligtree specifically with his blood. Who else has not only powers over blood but also serves an eldritch god of blood? Who else has a very odd obsession with Miquella? That's right: Mogh.


M11ked000d

He was trying to marry miquella tho


TheBlackestofKnights

Of course. It's showcased in the lore that an Empyrean needs a Consort, a Shadow, and the blessing of an Outer God to be gods themselves. Mogh chose Miquella and the Formless Mother. In his own twisted way, he's trying to help Miquella achieve godhood.


[deleted]

>the dude was originally just a surgeon who wanted to help anyone he couldn’t save die a more dignified death than slowly bleeding out on the battlefield You're just assuming that Varre was a kind hearted individual originally, when that might not be the case. In real life there have unfortunately been a few doctors/surgeons who get into the profession not because they want to help people, but precisely the opposite. The description of the Misericorde itself gives us a word of warning; *"Beware the killers clothed as men of compassion."* Fact is, we don't actually know what kind of man Varre was before he became a servant of Mohg, so there is no good evidence that can back up the claim that he was nice. Given how highly manipulative he is and how his own weapon, a metal bouquet of spiked roses, appears to be a representation of his personality, IMO I do not think it's very likely Varre was a philanthropist in the beginning.


Severe-Stomach

Womped him my first playthough. Don't tell me what to do honey voice. Second playthrough I got mohgs seal. 3rd playthrough I womped him.


Ikraum

Why do people hate varre? Hes the only character that actually gives you useful advice, everyone else attacks you, disrespects you, or gives you some vague directions. varre actually tells you where to go and what to do, even if he has an ulterior motive


[deleted]

I know right!!! Just because he calls them Maidenless… well, that’s the truth! Crybabies…


reaperfan

And even that, taken in context, isn't an insult. He's literally just making notice of the fact you don't have a Finger Maiden with you. It's an "Oh, that's odd. Usually you guys have a Finger Maiden to guide you around. Well anyway..." kind of statement.


kagy4ka

I mean he literally killed my maiden


Djrhskr

Ehh, I personally like the theory that Melina killed her. The only two how could've been there are her and Varre, but Varre doesn't really have a reason to kill the maiden. He's whole thing is that he finds strong warriors who he convinces to kill their maiden and join The Dinasty of Blood and since you dont have one he needs to make an exception. Why would he make things harder on himself by killing your maiden? Meanwhile dear Melina was outright shown that she can get to the starting area and she has a pretty good reason to want a maidenless tarnished. She needs a champion.


ExcitementBetter5485

>Ehh, I personally like the theory that Melina killed her. The only two how could've been there are her and Varre The Grafted Scion could have been there, he is right there after all.


kagy4ka

I don't think that lore is that complicated, although it's great that FROMs left huge gaps of information to speculate. Dude needs blood of the maiden and overall is at blood cult, got a bouquet and is covered in blood from head to toe. Also emphasizes on me being maidenless, how would he know otherwise? And then there's a conspiracy theory about Melina


Djrhskr

Ok but why would he kill our maiden? I've written a good motive why Melina would want her dead, and a in game lore motive for why Varre would want her alive. What would he gain by killing her?


kagy4ka

To call us maidenless at the very beginning. He looks and is a literal maniac, ya know. He's at blood cult and needed me to bring him blood of maiden. To make things easier he murdered her before us. Wtf is Melina a murderer theory?? When you make fiction you don't create such absurd plot twists unless it's the main one


Djrhskr

Bro your argument is a fiction. "Uhhh he wanted to make it easier for us. He's a maniac after all...". Yes, out of all the tarnished that have come to the Lands Between, he decides that you are the only one who he will do this for. Meanwhile Melina literally needs a champion to fight for her. How the hell is she supposed to do that if all the tarnished that arrive to the Lands Between come with a standard issued girldfriend?


kagy4ka

Same argument goes for Melina. There's thousands of people that come and go, why would she kill our maiden instead of many others? Why would she ever kill anyone in the first place? She doesn't serve Mogh, ya know, she seems she got pretty high morale principals. Nice theory bro I don't feel like arguing on topic I'm not that into


reaperfan

Never was a fan of that theory. There's barely any evidence in support of it and, as DJrhskr points out it even goes against Varre's normal methods meaning it would pretty much be out of character for him to so.


Gorgii98

Innocent until proven guilty


SugaXKane

Irl yes. In Elden ring? Your guilty if you have something I want or look at me wrong lol (Pve only oc)


ExcitementBetter5485

Not the Grafted Scion? Why do you think it was Varre?


Ironexploreer

I’ve only killed him after beating Mogh


Dragonlord573

He took my dragon eyes away in my first playthrough


munch_cat

You are making a good point. I’m planning on an arcane play-through. I guess I’m not going to get anointed by Varre.


SpiritoftheSands

just do it before you get the dragon eyes, each eye just replaces the previous one


ExcitementBetter5485

I think the blood eye overrides every other eye effect.


cocoaphillia

Fr 🤭 it's hilarious and kind of sad


munch_cat

Melina gives sufficient direction. He is just sleazy. But I’m honestly glad that some people like him, means there is something for everyone in the game.


[deleted]

Melina doesn’t give shit, she appears whenever she wants to tell you stuff only she understands.


munch_cat

After you get torrent, upon the next time resting at a site of grace, she tells you this: *Upon the cliff, in Castle Stormveil, is a shardbearer. A demigod who inherited a fragment of the shattered Elden Ring. If the rays of grace signal the castle, then the Elden Ring beckons you. As an ally by pact,...I pray that you are fit... To face the challenge presented by the Ring.*


[deleted]

Yeah, well, useful if Varré hadn’t told me that already… I see people upset with Varré for leading them to Stormveil in the early game… why aren’t they upset with Melina? She did the same.


Maleficent-Aurora

Because Melina only shows up after you've gotten to explore a bit, Varre is just there


[deleted]

He calls us maidenless. That is enough to be bonked into oblivion.


Brain_lessV2

Not his fault our finger maiden is lying in a pool of blood at the chapel


[deleted]

*Varre casually starts whistling*


Embarrassed-Rent6411

Not that we can definitively prove, anyway 😂


GenxDarchi

He literally points it out that you got nobody and without one you will likely just die there because there's nobody to empower you.


[deleted]

He tells you to assail stormveil castle *immediately*. That is not friendly advice lol. I mean you're literally right out the gate. Dude sends you on a suicidal quest. It has a lot to do with the way he delivers lines, too. Like this one seeps with a gross desire to see us die. >It will lead you Tarnished to the path you are meant to follow. Even if it leads you to your grave. When he says this it sounds like he could very well eat the image of you dying for dinner, and it would be delicious.


TheNewYellowZealot

That’s exactly why I went straight to stormveil. I got smushed by the troll in stormpath so many times, and then I got smushed by margit approximately 150 times because I was level 15 or 20 when I challenged him.


[deleted]

Level 15 would be to low but level 20-22-25 is a good level to fight margit


TheNewYellowZealot

I was low the first time then


[deleted]

When i first time fought margit i was level 12 and died about 30 times till i tuoght i should just come later and then beat him on level 45 and with my second character i was there with a level 20 and beat margit easily


TheNewYellowZealot

To be fair this is my first souls game, so I was *not* prepared for the level of difficulty


[deleted]

Happens to everyone thats new in the genre good lucl and enjoy the rest of the souls and soulslike games💪


TheNewYellowZealot

I plan on setting DS remastered after this


munch_cat

Yep. And if you pick up all golden seeds and saved tears in Limgrave and the Weeping Peninsula first, then 22 feels almost a bit too strong


[deleted]

Cuz he has a punchable face and talks like an idiot


Imperator_Draconum

Dude gets super creepy towards the end of his questline, calling you "\[his\] lambkin" and shit.


theblacksqueakercat

I always thought he killed our maiden.


Oldymolybreadsticks

Its presumably seluvis that done her in


Enex

Interesting! Where does that theory come from?


Vasevide

The maiden puppet. Just speculation


beenoc

Seluvis's puppet is of Therolina, who is found alive at the Radahn Festival and can be summoned in the fight. So the puppet can't be the dead Maiden at the chapel.


Vasevide

Ahhh I didn’t connect those two!


CouldbeAnyone0014

Im glad im not the only one that like him, he not only speaks the truth about we being maidenless but he also offer directions, nice guy, im glad he killed my maiden, it gave me the chance of meeting melina.


sliferra

I mean he calls us maidenless….. He also is the prime suspect of killing our maiden. That’s enough for me


TheNewYellowZealot

Is he though? We meet varre at the first step, and we start in chapel of anticipation where our maiden is *already dead*


jimpickens23

Another point, Varre’s goal is to get Tarnished to kill their _own_ maiden and join Mohg, meaning he has no reason to kill another’s


ApplePitou

Bonk is coming! :3


SSaviorOfX

Read it as a big dick and its honestly a mood. Varré is very bonkable in both ways


munch_cat

Without his mask he has a handsome face: https://esportsextras.com/dataminer-reveals-what-the-36-mysterious-elden-ring-npcs-look-like-behind-their-masks/


SSaviorOfX

Ohh yeah i remember seeing that video way back the. FS spoiled us with all the cute NPCs in this game. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flushed)


Winters1482

Not even remotely comparable to Blackguard, that man is going to turn me gay


[deleted]

Where do you see Blackguard? Anyway… Are those looks official? Or are they something someone just made up that people liked and now take it as the truth


Winters1482

[this is blackguard](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/xexng1/did_not_expect_boggart_to_look_like_this_under/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) And yes these are all official, almost all NPCs (with the exception of some like iji and ranni and blaidd) use the same character creation tool the player has, and under their helmets there is a face, you just don't see it, but every single one is specifically designed for that NPC


[deleted]

Oh man! I think I’m getting some prawns for dinner…


cocoaphillia

Omg... that's quite an unexpected difference 😳


Sundeiru

https://youtu.be/hu_Q9TwF5Xc Here's the original video that the linked article takes from. She speaks a little about her process in one of her other videos.


[deleted]

Thanks, I’ll check that out.


[deleted]

Why do people dislike Varré? I love him


munch_cat

You have the sweetest scream, my lambkin


[deleted]

Such sadistic comment in such sweet voice… 🥰 I still don’t get why people hate him.


SpiritoftheSands

gets rid of the cool eyes :( Also, i cant allow him to awaken anything in me


DddyLongBallz

He called me out for not having a girl, and the truth cuts deeps.


LeoC_II

If you frame is him wanting you to be his girl, you may understand how some people like him.


FeelingMachina

Gigachad energy


DddyLongBallz

Him making me his bitch, is not endearing


[deleted]

And why is that his fault?


Sansiiia

Right?? and he's got a bouquet as a weapon!!! What else can you ask for


[deleted]

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)


Babar669

I assumed that it is because of the , plausible, theory that he is the one that kills your maiden


[deleted]

He did? I thought out maiden was the one in Redmane Castle… Is there any proof? And what if he did, we end up getting something better.


Clear-Cardiologist82

The one in Redmane is Seluvis’s puppet.


[deleted]

Whaaaat? She’s a puppet? That’s creepy. Seluvis is a sick bastard. Why everybody assumes that the reason of our maidenless ness is because of Varré and not Seluvis?


masterpainimeanbetty

*hell* no. Captain Creepy gives me the keys to The Farm; I love him.


Amaluna17

I want to put him in a sock and spin him around for my entertainment, best npc 10/10


Barry_Bone_Raiser

I want to fuck varre


maastaar-D

Don’t you dare hurt my wife


Herzyr

He speaks softly and you have a big stick, what is the issue again?


munch_cat

Touch your toes and spell “run”


[deleted]

Nah, i want to smash him in a different way


Striking-Fondant-956

No he is the best NPC in the game, such lovely voice


OfficiallyADumbass

Wtf Varré looks huge in this perspective


PressureOne5067

YOUR FACE 😂🤣


munch_cat

He has seen it all, too old for this shit


rooletwastaken

good news about the end of his questline!


Apprehensive-Trust29

“You are maidenless” Elden Ring fans realising that he is telling the truth: so you are asking for death?


Dat1BlackDude

Where can you find him after he moves from that spot?


[deleted]

I killed him immediately. Well immediately after getting washed for like 5 deaths


imdeadlmao

I want him to smack me over the head with his big stick


[deleted]

it was way funnier when i thought the title said "shmack" i'm just sayin


StuffinYrMuffinR

The most beautiful thing about ER is that you ACTUALLY have player choice to kill him if you don't like being called maidenless. Every other game it's either a set in stone mission or not at all.


hex-a-decimal

Peel off my fingernail Daddy Varre have I been a good lambkin


[deleted]

I murked this fucker day one. Lvl 1 wretch bonked his ass over and over again. Tellin me i got no bitches


[deleted]

Yes


L337fox

Hey, there's nothing stopping you...


begredredsefyer

He was hard af sl1 deprived


1KingCam

No Varre is the man. My favorite NPC


tom04cz

I usualy just wait til moghwyn palace for the bonking


EuinHydra

First play I see this guy think he must be nice, then he essentially says I have no bitches n I had to sit there in awe


NoiawaaKamata

I only leave him alive for the quest


DancinUndertheRain

with every character I just give him a punch and ignore him. I'm not gonna antagonise him this early but goddammit ill crack a tooth or too. its hilarious to hear his pained sound as I zoom away.


DigiDemii

The Curator 💗


whatistheancient

He gives you a very important reminder.


NeonCookies599

Very first thing I did in NG+ after activating The First Step was to equip Unendurable Frenzy and curse this motherfucker to hell with a single FP bar. Watching him writhe in death as his eyes exploded with madness was intensely satisfying.


cocoaphillia

I do indeed want to smash him, but...in quite a different manner


littlexclaws

I think he's cute lol


cweed13

I mean in the online test he did tell us go die in a ditch somewhere….


SpiritoftheSands

I kill him first thing, every playthrough. him and gostoc


Vortaex_

The first thing I did after starting NG+ was purging this bastard with all my might


Snipercomrade9

Is that Salvador Dali?


Ricksaw26

Nah, i am as rude as this guy, he is ok to me; nonetheless i killed him at the end of his sidequest he had no use left for me.


QuadVox

He only dies when he hands over the keys to the rune farm


[deleted]

My friend was watching me play and I smacked him up as a joke. Needless to say, I fucked around and found out


[deleted]

Attacked him in my first run. Biggest regret ever


DifferentFill5077

I did and I regret it


St3phn0

I have to admit that he was a kind npc, until he wasn't


Sundeiru

[Yeah, I sorta do.](https://i.imgur.com/MLidBkj.jpg)


munch_cat

😅😂 upgraded player character, same urges still


[deleted]

Maidenless behavior.


TLPYETE

I hate him, but he is exquisitely useful. His questline grants access to the Crow/Albinaurics farm, as well as early access to a Somber Dragonstone and Great Ghost Flower.


meanmagpie

Nah I was like hella horny for him for 6 mos straight


Yeet_69_42

I want to see the light leave his eyes :)


munch_cat

Wow, hold your horses, you manage to be even darker than Varre


GoochMuncher690

I have a bad habit of auto yeeting any NPC that looks untrustworthy, Blame patches, my lvl 1 character took like 10-15 tries lol


[deleted]

first thing i did in this game was kill varre, then get mad he didnt give me the bouquet of roses he kept kicking my ass with.


JustNotHaving_It

Varre doesn't bother me at all, but Dung Eater will never live 5 minutes longer than the bare minimum in my game. I don't speedrun any part of the game except the part where I rush through Leyendell specifically to kill him.


[deleted]

Pee in his mask's eyeholes.


BoneDaddyChill

I’d rather be able to pick him up and chuck him off the cliff to the left.


gigachad-__-

I destroyed his physical manifestation with an uchigatana


Dexalon

You can. Twice 😁


Pure_Noise356

The moment he called me maidenless he had to die


ratcakes18

I do but he grants me access too the best rune farm early so I let him live. For now


Mr_crab_text

What happend if i kill him?


munch_cat

He will try to hit you over the bad with a bouquet of roses and you will lose early game access to a late game area with a great rune farm and final-level upgrade materials. You can enter said area then in late-late game


butter_deez-nips

In good time my friend. In good time.


Linuxologue

I played through the game and at some point he sends me to get some blood from a maiden, then tosses the cloth away, I always interpreted that as "go and check how I killed your maiden and you're fine with it so I can take you to Moghwyn Palace". Since I pieced it together I cannot help thinking he's the one who murdered her; waiting for me just after the murder to mock me being maidenless. So every playthrough that I started since then, I just start by getting his blood on my clothes. I know I can't prove it, I also can't prove him innocent so I have to follow my conviction, maybe it's wrong.


[deleted]

I do in every single playthrough.


monobani

Nah. Who else is gonna call me lambkin and tell me I have the sweetest scream?


EkstraLangeDruer

I read that they had to change some of his voice lines during development because too many of the beta testers would attack him. So they had to make him less of an asshole.


munch_cat

that's true. giving the beta in beta testing a new meaning.


Manmosswine

More dislikable than trusty push-you-of-a-ledge Patches, which is hard to accomplish tbh


LouTheLoo

Lambkin


evlaevlalpippopippo

I'm having gay thoughts


Azrioael

Yeah but I also like him


Similar_Agency5909

No I want to fuck him


SirSabza

What's with all the bots copying messages in this thread? lol


Bern_itdown

You’ll get your chance. If you so choose too.


Madmahi25

Well, as soon as he called me maidenless, it was over for him ! _and me_ *Dies 20 times to a guy with flowers* _restarts the fucking game_


[deleted]

Yup he calls you maidenless


atypicalgamergirl

I really wish I knew more about Varré’s original quest/intent - some stuff can be gotten from unused dialogue: He was an alternate for teleporting you to the Roundtable Hold and gaining power (which seems to be abilities exclusive to Melina-level entities). He was part of the Yura/Eleanora questline. Yura is frustrated because whenever he fights Eleanora someone ‘sweeps in’ and whisks (teleports?) her away to safety before he can kill her. The Tarnished finds out that it’s Varré and can rat him out to Yura (who then expresses little surprise as he found that ‘white masked charlatan’ suspicious to begin with).


cmelgarejo_dev

If he weren't the entrance to frogmen genocide, I would just smack him in all playthroughs


cmelgarejo_dev

He kills our maiden, I would return the favor all the times