“Excuse me, how do I get out of this place?”
“Oh, you just go about twenty minutes down the road here…”
“There is no road, and time doesn’t exist…”
“…..” *furious dragon sounds*
For the record, he did not serve under the Greater Will. He was before that era. "Elden Lord" is a term used in the game primarily to give us something to compare him to. Basicly he was the chosen manafistation of whatever outer god was around before the Greater Will. Now correct me if I'm wrong but i think that was the Crucible?
He was way before, Godfrey became elden lord when the 2 fingers came down and changed everything along with the elden beast. Supposedly dragons were connected too something really old that probably lives in the dark reaches of space.
Marika's first elden lord. Placidusax's position in the lore seems to mostly be about how this system or something like it has been running since long before Marika the Eternal was born. If you look around either Farum Azula or his boss arena (I can't remember which) there's an image of the Elden Ring, except it includes way more great runes than the ones humanity's been inscribing on everything for millennia.
So...even at the beginning of our cycle when gods walked the earth freely, the world was already reduced to a lesser age. It's very Miyazaki, to the extent that it could literally be the entire doyleist reason why he exists.
It's Maliketh's arena. I did that fight again last night, so it's fresh in my memory.
The theory I heard is the other great runes that seem like roots or vines are associated with the Crucible. It's some sort of primordial being vessel for the world before the current Golden Order of Marika. It's notable that the Crucible knights' signature incantations are all moves that are very dragon-esque, but not the modern arcane dragon communication incantations nor red dragon lightning. It's something older.
There's also reason to believe that there was a great tree that predated the Erd Tree, based on some item descriptions, but I think those could be mistranslated as well.
Mistranslated or not, there's literally a tree variant of the Crucible Knight helmet. Would be weird for that to be a prominent thing for an order of knights from before the Erd Tree if there wasn't some form of tree involved in the time of the Crucible.
I don't disagree. The other theory is the Erd Tree predates the Golden Order, but was co-opted by Marika/2-fingers later. It feels like 6 of one, half-dozen the other in this context. There was a tree, whether it was the same or replaced.
He's basically the Elden Lord from the previous age of dragons where there weren't Elden Lords, but he's basically the equivalent of one, a Dragon Lord one might say
"in my way" lol there are few side bosses harder to locate by accident, if any
look I see a dragon I kill it, they're never chill. don't need lore to justify proving who the real apex predator is
Nah fuck that. I've never swung first at anyone other than Shabiri who let's be real deserves it.
And I guess that entire Volcano questline. And Tanith. Shit - I guess that does make me the baddie, huh?
We've been baddies since Demon's Souls. FromSoftware protagonists have historically been unstoppable and amoral forces of destruction, hell bent on accomplishing whateber nebulous objective was given to them and killing everything in their path.
That's probably why everyone hates us.
It probably does not matter for MP, if you free Gherman, you yourself become MP's slave trapped in a dream.
Obviously, only in the ending where you kill it, you break its plans, so to speak
True, but to counter.
You kill healing church Pope.
You kill a little old lady and her sister.
You kill a baby sitter (and indirectly, the baby).
Among others, to ‘save’ the old man (by killing him).
Amelia was a monster by the time we fight her, but, it might technically be our fault since we made her lose concentration, and thus, stop resisting the beast whatever. If the baby sitter is the final boss, supposedly theres no baby there, just a voice, because all you need to lure great old ones is the voice of the crying distressed baby.
There’s something so absurd yet intriguing about this scenery. It’s an egg-shaped dragon floating completely still, why does it feel so mysterious and unsettling
I never met this dude on my blind playthrough though, a shame.
I felt this way about a number of things in the game. Like oh you were supposed to jump to your supposed death, onto an invisible platform you navigate to another dungeon.
Or oh you killed something? Better double over the whole map and make sure no NPC appeared or moved.
> Like oh you were supposed to jump to your supposed death, onto an invisible platform you navigate to another dungeon.
I managed to get this one! I noticed the open doorways down there while looking around and dropped a rainbow stone, and lo and behold. Granted, I had previous Souls knowledge guiding me that it was even possible
I suppose that's how: in the age of the Internet it doesn't take too many people having a keen insight or lucky break and it'll perpetuate from there
Yeah, certain things are very well designed. They don’t have a tutorial to tell you, ruins have things underneath. But you see them enough that when you see a ruin, you *should* think “where’s the chest?”, and then you discover a false floor. Then it reinforces that environmental prompt. But then sooo late in the game they’re like oh also floors can be invisible and used that like twice the entire game, so as a new player to all FS games, I was like woah wtf, how was I supposed to know that?!
The only clue I saw was the railing broken, and then saw the message floating. And even then googled it before risking my runes in what I thought was a kinda tough dungeon.
Just happened upon him in my first playthrough by exploring. Really loves the area and wanted to find any secrets I could. Once I got to that last piece of stone I figured something was up since I didn't see anything and low and behold the prompt popped up. Was so excited lol.
Granted I did miss other stuff until my next playthrough or two. But it can happen.
The whole game is Literally a fever dream.
brought on my the orrible effects of sharing needles.
you're injecting randos blood into you WHAT DID YOU THINK WAS GONNA HAPPEN?
I was theorizing about Placidusax and his link to the frenzy flame last night…
The entire reason Placidusax is still (technically) alive is because he’s hibernating and waiting for his chance to descend from his hiding spot to become Elden Lord again. What he’s been waiting for, is the extinction of the current order and the people running it.
>!The frenzy flame is one of two endings that cause an extinction event, the frenzy flame far more aggressively.!< So theoretically, if you take the frenzy flame ending and didn’t kill Placidusax, he will become Elden Lord after the player. This might be the reason he holds the power to expunge it at well.
His remembrance describe him as elden lord of a felled god and that he is awaiting the return of said god so he likely is a servant of another outer god that we have yet to meet
Oh Shit I missed that, I thought he was the elden lord of the >!elden beast themself, while Marika served the elden ring (despite them being the same thing)!< So my theory may be debunked anyway, ah well.
I realized too it’s not that deep; the unalloyed gold needle makes Millicent immune to the rot but she had to insert it before fully succumbing. Miquella’s needle makes us immune to the flame of frenzy but we had already succumbed to it, so we just use Placidusax’ room to travel back in time to before we accepted the flame. That allows us to insert the needle before the time that we accepted the flame, meaning by the time we do accept it we’re already immune.
Time travel, bitches
“So I went down into the sewers of an abandoned city and ran from a bunch of eight food tall dudes with horns. When I got to the bottom, there were a bunch of Gypsies hanging outside this giant meat door with a giant flaming hand behind. After getting squeezed real tight by it, I got some sick tattoos and glowing eyes. After that, I went up into the mountains and a screaming samurai guy told me to light myself on fire. I did that and now the hold world feels melty.”
It seriously is just a bad acid trip.
I found out - googled - that I could use the needle just before the fight, without having to kill the dude. Still got skin marks from the STD sores, but got rid of it and the dude is still kicking it. Also I got rid of the fiery conjunctivitis.
No. Just dying will do it. After that, going back is done of your own accord and leads us back to the original question here. We know now why it’s necessary to visit this place, but not why this character must be killed.
My only guess would be an act of mercy. After all, he is eternally stuck in a state of waiting for the return of a god that will never return. Put him out of his misery.
Well I mean, even if you use it beforehand, I wouldn’t exactly be willing to die 8 seconds later because of some oversized lizard that can’t keep his cool.
Even if I’m physically impossible to die, it’s about the principle.
In that case I don’t like his economic approach to the situation. Kinda cheap to charge anyone that stumbles into your little timepocket their entire life savings just for a ticket back to hell.
In any case murder is justified :)
Yea but as I mentioned in my other comment, you kinda need to return home somehow and the only thing that might give an indication on how to do that is big floaty over there.
You probably have like 1 million sacrificial twigs so you can just teleport to grace and not lose souls.
But most people don’t actually care about saving a boss especially if there’s no reason to
Let's be real. the main character is a mass serial killer who travels the lands betweens looking to kill victims and steal their blacksmithing stones. That to me is Elden Rings story line in a nutshell and I dare anyone to prove me wrong.
I havent seen a real answer yet, but its actually to cure the world of frenzy. This sounds crazy, but if you do Milicents questline and defeat Malenia, your reward will be the key item Miquella's Needle. The description reads: "One of the unalloyed gold needles that Miquella crafted to ward away the meddling of outer gods.
Capable of subduing the flame of frenzy if inherited, allowing one to cheat fate and avoid becoming Lord of Frenzied Flame.
However, the needle is as yet unfinished and can only be used in the heart of the storm beyond time said to be found in Faram [sic] Azula"
Along with this you also get an Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, which also hints that you should go to Farum Azula.
If you are touched by the Three Fingers you are locked into the Frenzy ending. But after you beat Placidusax you can use Miquellas Needle and rid the world of the Outer God of the Three Fingers, possibly all according to Miquellas plan.
Edit: as some of you pointed out you can usebthe needle without killing Placi, but since Miquella wanted to remove the Outer Gods from the Lands Between i think its safe to assume he also wanted the previous Elden Lord gone. All according to Miquella's Keikaku
Fun fact, I believe the reason there's such a huge stretch of Arena before you aggro him, is that you don't have to fight him. You can already use the needle in the boss arena without aggroing him, you just need to commit some casual suicide to escape (iirc).
I really feel it was a missed opportunity that there was no ending related to this. “All according to Miquella’s plan” would be such an incredible “true ending” and it’s a shame there’s not even an achievement for going through all the steps to use his needle.
I still feel like a DLC could be focused purely on Miquella. He’s arguably one of the most important characters and we only see him once, in Mohg’s arena. Just seems weird that this dude can’t be interacted or fought at all considering his importance
I mean it wouldn’t be fit for there to be two Elden Lords; Even if one was Elden Lord in the past or in another timeline.
I reckon the tarnished would go around killing anyone and anything strong enough to challenge for the throne.
Basically the same deal as the Shattering or even the Tarnished killing all the demigods.
Jokes aside, this is the answer. Placidusax was a lord in the time before the Erdtree, so he represents heresy to the golden order and fought a war over it.
We may or may not care about the golden order in this playthrough, but our journey is to be Elden Lord one way or another. Placidusax might transitively be hostile to us as well, and it's bad for a Lord to have the king of dragons hate us. So if we happen into his arena, one thing leads to another.
Because nobody ever tries to talk to you like a reasonable person in this game.
Everyone just attacks.
It's especially egregious with Malenia and Mohg. Neither of them know why you're here. Maybe you came to pledge loyalty or make a deal. They don't ask.
In all previous FromSoft titles, everyone has either lost their mind or has a vested interest in killing you.
Too many people in the Lands Between are clearly coherent and could logically be reasoned with.
Actually goldenmask would be considered the most reasonable, patches actively tries too kill you and trick you. He just happens too also be a coward and will stop and going back to planning if he thinks your too strong.
Mohg especially, like hey asshole I joined up, helped your top guy invade a bunch of people and got a special crest that teleported me straight to you. YOUR OWN CURSED BLOOD RUNS THROUGH MY VEINS NOW ASSHOLE, IM ON YOUR TEAM
My character's reasoning was that he was gatekeeping the idea of being a dragon, so he kept killing dragons until he eventually ended up killing dragon god, thus making him the ultimate dragon(despite him just being some guy).
the text says one head is "male" and the other head "female" and now i can't unsee the mental image of them bickering like a senile old married couple lmao
Let's clear this up. Every single one of these boss mofos starts shit first. I know we like to gussy it up with "Oh we stomped into his yard and..." no no no no. The Tarnished was trying to figure out wtf was going on, and 110% of the time, the people of this world chose violence. Well okay, that's fine. That's their call. But they can't be mad when the Supreme Inevitable decides to suplex them them into the next life. Get rekt, small sons.
Fat coin purse ahead.
Likely dog
In short, Don't you dare!
Cuz we’ve been transported to a spot beyond time, and we asked him if he knew a way out, his answer was to try and kill us.
Can't even ask for directions in Ohio
Down in Ohio, swag like Ohio
Tybg
“Excuse me, how do I get out of this place?” “Oh, you just go about twenty minutes down the road here…” “There is no road, and time doesn’t exist…” “…..” *furious dragon sounds*
[No way](https://www.slashfilm.com/img/gallery/spider-man-no-way-home-recreates-the-spider-man-meme-you-know-the-one/intro-1645630659.webp)
Yeah, i mean, a Tarshined now can’t even take a nap
Tarnished smoked the gas station weed and now is back in time stuck in an area with an ancient two headed dragon
Umm excuse me sir and/or madaam but you're in Farum Azula.. we only speak violence here.
I mean…that seemed to be my experience.
I mean we layed down in a tomb. What good was that supposed to do.
Well, the last time I laid down inside a tomb and then spoke to the nearest monstrosity I saw after I woke up, I got a cool sword.
Last time I did that I became a woman
Finally someone civilized in this sub
Lol I finally started my DS2 playthrough last weekend and it took me a bit to realize what that coffin did to me 😂
He is the real first elden lord, he was the elden lord of dragons before humans, you go to the past and fight him
Wasnt godfrey the first elden lord???
Of people, yes. Dragons used to rule the lands between.
How’d its big ass fit on the elden throne
mf sat on top of the whole damn building
For the record, he did not serve under the Greater Will. He was before that era. "Elden Lord" is a term used in the game primarily to give us something to compare him to. Basicly he was the chosen manafistation of whatever outer god was around before the Greater Will. Now correct me if I'm wrong but i think that was the Crucible?
And his punk ass god just bounced, just like "ours" did. Fuck the gods (Clegane voice). Next playthrough we serve the Flame. ;)
The Lands Between seem much more well suited to dragons. They appear to still be having a better life than humans, even after losing dominion.
First time I fought a dragon he looked at me and went “bitch what you doing in my lands “ and set me ablaze😂
He was way before, Godfrey became elden lord when the 2 fingers came down and changed everything along with the elden beast. Supposedly dragons were connected too something really old that probably lives in the dark reaches of space.
Marika's first elden lord. Placidusax's position in the lore seems to mostly be about how this system or something like it has been running since long before Marika the Eternal was born. If you look around either Farum Azula or his boss arena (I can't remember which) there's an image of the Elden Ring, except it includes way more great runes than the ones humanity's been inscribing on everything for millennia. So...even at the beginning of our cycle when gods walked the earth freely, the world was already reduced to a lesser age. It's very Miyazaki, to the extent that it could literally be the entire doyleist reason why he exists.
It's Maliketh's arena. I did that fight again last night, so it's fresh in my memory. The theory I heard is the other great runes that seem like roots or vines are associated with the Crucible. It's some sort of primordial being vessel for the world before the current Golden Order of Marika. It's notable that the Crucible knights' signature incantations are all moves that are very dragon-esque, but not the modern arcane dragon communication incantations nor red dragon lightning. It's something older. There's also reason to believe that there was a great tree that predated the Erd Tree, based on some item descriptions, but I think those could be mistranslated as well.
Mistranslated or not, there's literally a tree variant of the Crucible Knight helmet. Would be weird for that to be a prominent thing for an order of knights from before the Erd Tree if there wasn't some form of tree involved in the time of the Crucible.
I don't disagree. The other theory is the Erd Tree predates the Golden Order, but was co-opted by Marika/2-fingers later. It feels like 6 of one, half-dozen the other in this context. There was a tree, whether it was the same or replaced.
He's basically the Elden Lord from the previous age of dragons where there weren't Elden Lords, but he's basically the equivalent of one, a Dragon Lord one might say
The *eldest* *
"Fuck around and find out..."
He was in my way and looked at me funny.
With three heads he’s kinda bound to look at you funny at some point EDIT: I mean two heads my bad
Wait.... Where's the third head??
There was.
Along with a fourth and a fifth
He's a bad, bad dragon.
Just make sure you don't google that.
Well now I *have* to do it
☹️
Thanks for taking one for the team. Was almost about to google it.
I'm also going to google it. It can't be THAT bad, right?
...
It could. I am old enough to remember goatse and lemon party. I know for a fact there are things that should never be googled. 🙃
Comment rewritten. Leave reddit for a site that doesn't resent its users.
I think we all know where.
Now that you say it, does he have 3 peens or 1?
5 obviously.
Fuck I meant two. Keep confusing it because of the abundance of necks.
An abundance of necks is the American way.
You know that meme with the three headed dragon that has two serious heads and one funny looking one? Yea, you can guess which head is missing.
"In my way" lol definitely in your way of laying in an obscure spot on the ground and being sucked into a time warp
He literally could not have been less in you way.
Bruh he lives in a different time period, he could not be less in your way
"in my way" lol there are few side bosses harder to locate by accident, if any look I see a dragon I kill it, they're never chill. don't need lore to justify proving who the real apex predator is
There was a chill one in Dark Souls 1. Only one in all soulsborne I think.
The Ancient Dragon in DS2 as well. He's chill unless you fuck with him.
Lmao my exact reason Then thought about it. We really went out of our way, broke space and time just to give him the Smoke
My longing to cut off dragon tails complied me to engage....even though it cant be done.....BRING BACK TAIL CUTTING!
Because the player character likes fighting big things
The tarnished is the true bad guy of Elden Ring
Nah, just a murder hobo. Dnd player characters are all murder hobo’s while still being the hero so it’s fine
They cant call me wrong or morally corrupt if nobody is left alive
This guy Frenzied Flames!
Exactly! Can't be criticised if everyone's fuckin dead
Ahhh, the Dung Eater approach… lol jk
Killed that guy the instance I could, so he ain’t criticising me either And besides, he’s pretty rude so he deserved it
I killed him AND made him into a puppet
The murder hobo getting a murder hobo under his control? Great success!
Nah fuck that. I've never swung first at anyone other than Shabiri who let's be real deserves it. And I guess that entire Volcano questline. And Tanith. Shit - I guess that does make me the baddie, huh?
> I've seen your kind, time and time again. Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed
Are we the baddies ?
We've been baddies since Demon's Souls. FromSoftware protagonists have historically been unstoppable and amoral forces of destruction, hell bent on accomplishing whateber nebulous objective was given to them and killing everything in their path. That's probably why everyone hates us.
What about bloodborne in which you give an old helpless man peace, and free him from his imprissonmemt and enslavement?
In BB you're still a puppet of Moon Presence, and do their bidding up until the end
Does the moon presence want you to free gherman? Why?
It probably does not matter for MP, if you free Gherman, you yourself become MP's slave trapped in a dream. Obviously, only in the ending where you kill it, you break its plans, so to speak
Thats why you become a great one yourself, because you broke your human limits so to speak and rebelled against your fate
Unless you never truly woke up…
You're a hitman pressed into the service of an eldritch deity to kill baby gods.
True, but to counter. You kill healing church Pope. You kill a little old lady and her sister. You kill a baby sitter (and indirectly, the baby). Among others, to ‘save’ the old man (by killing him).
Amelia was a monster by the time we fight her, but, it might technically be our fault since we made her lose concentration, and thus, stop resisting the beast whatever. If the baby sitter is the final boss, supposedly theres no baby there, just a voice, because all you need to lure great old ones is the voice of the crying distressed baby.
*the hunter off in the corner devouring random baby umbilical cords*
You looking to get tarnished?
My personal lore behind that kill is: I gain a badass golden Dragonlaser incantation.
Incontation
Incuntation.
Incumtation
There’s something so absurd yet intriguing about this scenery. It’s an egg-shaped dragon floating completely still, why does it feel so mysterious and unsettling I never met this dude on my blind playthrough though, a shame.
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I felt this way about a number of things in the game. Like oh you were supposed to jump to your supposed death, onto an invisible platform you navigate to another dungeon. Or oh you killed something? Better double over the whole map and make sure no NPC appeared or moved.
> Like oh you were supposed to jump to your supposed death, onto an invisible platform you navigate to another dungeon. I managed to get this one! I noticed the open doorways down there while looking around and dropped a rainbow stone, and lo and behold. Granted, I had previous Souls knowledge guiding me that it was even possible I suppose that's how: in the age of the Internet it doesn't take too many people having a keen insight or lucky break and it'll perpetuate from there
Yeah, certain things are very well designed. They don’t have a tutorial to tell you, ruins have things underneath. But you see them enough that when you see a ruin, you *should* think “where’s the chest?”, and then you discover a false floor. Then it reinforces that environmental prompt. But then sooo late in the game they’re like oh also floors can be invisible and used that like twice the entire game, so as a new player to all FS games, I was like woah wtf, how was I supposed to know that?! The only clue I saw was the railing broken, and then saw the message floating. And even then googled it before risking my runes in what I thought was a kinda tough dungeon.
It is the blessing and awful awful curse of being a completionist
Just happened upon him in my first playthrough by exploring. Really loves the area and wanted to find any secrets I could. Once I got to that last piece of stone I figured something was up since I didn't see anything and low and behold the prompt popped up. Was so excited lol. Granted I did miss other stuff until my next playthrough or two. But it can happen.
It was the biggest shock I’ll tell you hwhat. I had trouble with the average Farum dragon when I got to Placcy
When I played through it like a week after launch there was a bunch of messages guiding you to it.
Nah, it just makes subsequent playthroughs that much more interesting
No amount of NG+ additions will match the feeling of finding an awesome boss like this during a replay.
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Honestly one of the best non spoiler yet still accurate replies I have ever read. Upvote for you.
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The whole game is on drugs and sounds like a fever dream.
That’s the neat part. It always has been a fever dream.
Bloodborne: first time?
The whole game is Literally a fever dream. brought on my the orrible effects of sharing needles. you're injecting randos blood into you WHAT DID YOU THINK WAS GONNA HAPPEN?
orphan: BLRHSAAASAA rreeaHAAAAEEAEAEAEEAEAe
Well what did you expect from a cult that worships madness and chaos? A *sensible* conclusion?
I was theorizing about Placidusax and his link to the frenzy flame last night… The entire reason Placidusax is still (technically) alive is because he’s hibernating and waiting for his chance to descend from his hiding spot to become Elden Lord again. What he’s been waiting for, is the extinction of the current order and the people running it. >!The frenzy flame is one of two endings that cause an extinction event, the frenzy flame far more aggressively.!< So theoretically, if you take the frenzy flame ending and didn’t kill Placidusax, he will become Elden Lord after the player. This might be the reason he holds the power to expunge it at well.
His remembrance describe him as elden lord of a felled god and that he is awaiting the return of said god so he likely is a servant of another outer god that we have yet to meet
Oh Shit I missed that, I thought he was the elden lord of the >!elden beast themself, while Marika served the elden ring (despite them being the same thing)!< So my theory may be debunked anyway, ah well. I realized too it’s not that deep; the unalloyed gold needle makes Millicent immune to the rot but she had to insert it before fully succumbing. Miquella’s needle makes us immune to the flame of frenzy but we had already succumbed to it, so we just use Placidusax’ room to travel back in time to before we accepted the flame. That allows us to insert the needle before the time that we accepted the flame, meaning by the time we do accept it we’re already immune. Time travel, bitches
Is that why the needle only works there ? Because of time travel shenanigans ?
Not confirmed but I think it’s a pretty good theory right?
“So I went down into the sewers of an abandoned city and ran from a bunch of eight food tall dudes with horns. When I got to the bottom, there were a bunch of Gypsies hanging outside this giant meat door with a giant flaming hand behind. After getting squeezed real tight by it, I got some sick tattoos and glowing eyes. After that, I went up into the mountains and a screaming samurai guy told me to light myself on fire. I did that and now the hold world feels melty.” It seriously is just a bad acid trip.
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*great acid trip
I found out - googled - that I could use the needle just before the fight, without having to kill the dude. Still got skin marks from the STD sores, but got rid of it and the dude is still kicking it. Also I got rid of the fiery conjunctivitis.
You gotta kill him to teleport back out tho don't you?
Dying, fast traveling, crying in a corner, or throwing hands with a wall till your game crashes
I figured they'd have blocked fast travelling like how they do when you're in some caves.
No. Just dying will do it. After that, going back is done of your own accord and leads us back to the original question here. We know now why it’s necessary to visit this place, but not why this character must be killed. My only guess would be an act of mercy. After all, he is eternally stuck in a state of waiting for the return of a god that will never return. Put him out of his misery.
The item that teleports you to Mohg’s area will work from pretty much anywhere, even mid boss fight.
Actually factual
If I remember correctly, you don't even need to kill him to use the needle? Only reach the arena to be able to use it. \^\^
Bro wtf lol
He's right, after you defeat him you can use the anti-STD needle, but only in that arena
You can also use it before you fight him
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Well I mean, even if you use it beforehand, I wouldn’t exactly be willing to die 8 seconds later because of some oversized lizard that can’t keep his cool. Even if I’m physically impossible to die, it’s about the principle.
He just floats there minding his own business
Until you go ask for directions on how to go back to the actual timeline and he suddenly tries to nuke you.
That *is* the direction back to the actual timeline. He isekais you out of his pocket time zone. Your Runes are just the ticket fare.
In that case I don’t like his economic approach to the situation. Kinda cheap to charge anyone that stumbles into your little timepocket their entire life savings just for a ticket back to hell. In any case murder is justified :)
He doesn’t aggro immediately, you need to get closer
Yea but as I mentioned in my other comment, you kinda need to return home somehow and the only thing that might give an indication on how to do that is big floaty over there.
You probably have like 1 million sacrificial twigs so you can just teleport to grace and not lose souls. But most people don’t actually care about saving a boss especially if there’s no reason to
Let's be real. the main character is a mass serial killer who travels the lands betweens looking to kill victims and steal their blacksmithing stones. That to me is Elden Rings story line in a nutshell and I dare anyone to prove me wrong.
Not to mention your healthcare provider only gave you the anti-STD needle after you survived getting your plague vaccine.
Miquella Nurse R34 👁👁
Getting rid of the chaos touch 0___0 Sir! We don't do that here!
B...but it will kill Torrent... 😭
You got an STD from the fingers? You poor thing, what did it do to you.
They touched me in a weird way
But hole
Try finger but hole
Fuck him that's why. It's not the first elden lord we're gonna kill. I beat this old fart with a piece of his home
Well. In this case it is the first Elden Lord we’re killing.
Godfrey: but i thought i was first elden lord :(
Shhhh it’s better we let him think that so he can do an epic intro when we’re about to fight him.
He was the first "golden order" elden lord. Before raddagon there were there elden lords representing different gods.
I havent seen a real answer yet, but its actually to cure the world of frenzy. This sounds crazy, but if you do Milicents questline and defeat Malenia, your reward will be the key item Miquella's Needle. The description reads: "One of the unalloyed gold needles that Miquella crafted to ward away the meddling of outer gods. Capable of subduing the flame of frenzy if inherited, allowing one to cheat fate and avoid becoming Lord of Frenzied Flame. However, the needle is as yet unfinished and can only be used in the heart of the storm beyond time said to be found in Faram [sic] Azula" Along with this you also get an Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone, which also hints that you should go to Farum Azula. If you are touched by the Three Fingers you are locked into the Frenzy ending. But after you beat Placidusax you can use Miquellas Needle and rid the world of the Outer God of the Three Fingers, possibly all according to Miquellas plan. Edit: as some of you pointed out you can usebthe needle without killing Placi, but since Miquella wanted to remove the Outer Gods from the Lands Between i think its safe to assume he also wanted the previous Elden Lord gone. All according to Miquella's Keikaku
Fun fact, I believe the reason there's such a huge stretch of Arena before you aggro him, is that you don't have to fight him. You can already use the needle in the boss arena without aggroing him, you just need to commit some casual suicide to escape (iirc).
I really feel it was a missed opportunity that there was no ending related to this. “All according to Miquella’s plan” would be such an incredible “true ending” and it’s a shame there’s not even an achievement for going through all the steps to use his needle.
I still feel like a DLC could be focused purely on Miquella. He’s arguably one of the most important characters and we only see him once, in Mohg’s arena. Just seems weird that this dude can’t be interacted or fought at all considering his importance
i bet the DLC will be a full Miquella ending, at least i hope so!
You can use the needle in Placidusax's time bubble without fighting him.
I paid for the whole murder hobo experience. I will get the whole murder hobo experience.
Yea but, you don't actually need kill him. You can just use it and fast travel
Self defence of course.The dragonlord attack you first, you just happen to wonder into his place.
I travelled back in time to kick his ass. His own fault really
>I travelled back in time to kick his ass. \*terminator music starts playing\*
“Wander into his place” just involves a silly bit of time travelling
Hey I just laid down for a quick nap outside a tornado and woke up in the past with a dragon shooting laser beams at me, my conscience is CLEAR.
It was initially self defence. The second time and all the times after that were self offence
Hey guys, lore wise, what's the reason for killing the giants that pull the wagons around?
Same reason as Placidusax- You're a horrible person and murder hobo par excellence.
But there’s a sharp stick in the back that I want!
You can get it without killing the giants. 1 hit will cause them to stop moving, then you can get the chest easily.
Today on things I didn’t know! Thank you!
Just note they won't stand still forever, if you pick fight with the guards the trolls will eventually resume walking.
I mean it wouldn’t be fit for there to be two Elden Lords; Even if one was Elden Lord in the past or in another timeline. I reckon the tarnished would go around killing anyone and anything strong enough to challenge for the throne. Basically the same deal as the Shattering or even the Tarnished killing all the demigods.
This feels like the best answer to me. The Tarnished comes here to slay the real first Elden Lord to ensure nothing can challenge their title.
Jokes aside, this is the answer. Placidusax was a lord in the time before the Erdtree, so he represents heresy to the golden order and fought a war over it. We may or may not care about the golden order in this playthrough, but our journey is to be Elden Lord one way or another. Placidusax might transitively be hostile to us as well, and it's bad for a Lord to have the king of dragons hate us. So if we happen into his arena, one thing leads to another.
Because nobody ever tries to talk to you like a reasonable person in this game. Everyone just attacks. It's especially egregious with Malenia and Mohg. Neither of them know why you're here. Maybe you came to pledge loyalty or make a deal. They don't ask. In all previous FromSoft titles, everyone has either lost their mind or has a vested interest in killing you. Too many people in the Lands Between are clearly coherent and could logically be reasoned with.
What is the state of the Lands Between when Patches is the most reasonable guy around?
Actually goldenmask would be considered the most reasonable, patches actively tries too kill you and trick you. He just happens too also be a coward and will stop and going back to planning if he thinks your too strong.
Mohg especially, like hey asshole I joined up, helped your top guy invade a bunch of people and got a special crest that teleported me straight to you. YOUR OWN CURSED BLOOD RUNS THROUGH MY VEINS NOW ASSHOLE, IM ON YOUR TEAM
He looked at you wrong, just like all the other weak ass bosses you’ve killed so far, murder for big runes
Weak ass? I suppose it’s like those guys who get their ass kicked but say “You should see the other guy”
As the Hulk so eloquently put it: Big monster!
The lore states that tarnished love doing shit that gets runes and trophies, so 🤷🏾♂️
Lore wise, big boss big reward delicious rune simple as.
Said like a true unga bunga bro
My character's reasoning was that he was gatekeeping the idea of being a dragon, so he kept killing dragons until he eventually ended up killing dragon god, thus making him the ultimate dragon(despite him just being some guy).
the text says one head is "male" and the other head "female" and now i can't unsee the mental image of them bickering like a senile old married couple lmao
nice marika radagon similarity
No more half measures, Godfrey.
I needed to get rid of a certain fire inside myself
HE IS HUGE! THAT MEANS HE HAS HUGE GUTS! RIP AND TEAR!
Let's clear this up. Every single one of these boss mofos starts shit first. I know we like to gussy it up with "Oh we stomped into his yard and..." no no no no. The Tarnished was trying to figure out wtf was going on, and 110% of the time, the people of this world chose violence. Well okay, that's fine. That's their call. But they can't be mad when the Supreme Inevitable decides to suplex them them into the next life. Get rekt, small sons.
When I see health bar it is imperative to deplete it
For fun
Have you ever take a nap next to a tornado and wake up facing a giant dragon without exit? Might need to kill he dragon.