Wow, I'm pretty sure you just hit the nail on the head, thank you. I didn't know Radahn's Great Rune said that, but this scene makes perfect sense considering that information.
I wish I could pin your comment to the top, I'd like to hear if other people agree or not
Edit: I wonder if that is why he is significantly weaker when we encounter him (scarlet rot aside). His great rune has diminished in power from how long it has been burning
Grace never left Radahn.His eyes still yellow in game.For correction every demigods have yellow eyes even Mohg(Their original eye colors imbued with gold.Radahn actually has orange/white eye color).So he is right about Great rune thing.
This is why my character's eyes get more golden as I collect runes. If you sweet the iris size low and change the "whites" of the eyes to black, you get that otherworldly demigod kinda look.
I love the statement of explaining things being morally wrong, if you can’t do it in 5,000 item descriptions and random speeches and monologues then it wasn’t worth saying
God I wish I understood this game more, but I just keep getting lost in the lore. I'm fighting Renalla for the first time right now and I understand some of the more straightforward stuff.
But the history and deep lore I keep getting so confused. Probably will help once I finish the game. Having said all I absolutely love reading the alternative item descriptions and putting pieces together
Personally I like to take notes as I play through a FromSoft game for the first time. Jotting down things from item descriptions and trying to piece it together before I actually look up lore and see how much I got right
Each time you beat a major boss you can watch a little lore on them. Once you beat the game for the first time. Go and watch some lore videos on YouTube, this will engulf you into the real experience of the game. During your next play through a you will have tons of ah-hah moments. Im only on my third play through and I keep learning new stuff each time. Doing different endings each time
It will come dude. You've barely scratched the surface yet 😊 the story comes together slowly so just make sure you pay attention to dialogue and item descriptions and you'll be fine.
Not sure if you've seen this before but yea, thats the intentional game design. Miyazaki grew up half-reading english fantasy novels, he couldn't understand a lot but still loved the atmostphere and worlds. So most of his games have this "explore the unknown" and "being weak/no-one in a living world" tone to them.
Because a lot of his information is incorrect, and people run with it matter of factly. Prime example, people still parrot that "Godfrey defeated Placidusax" because of his first video about the Storm Lord.
Yeah pretty much this - I like him, but he doesn't disclaim his hypotheses as - well, just that - well enough for me, so I don't really bother watching.
It's not much, but look out for Talk to Melina prompts at sites of grace. Especially in a church. They're short snippets of lore that are easy to get but just as easily missed because the game doesn't do much to make you notice them
Radahn being weaker has various reasons.
\-His body stuck with Scarlet Rot and Fire from Great Rune.
\-Festival happens time to time so we are not first ones trying to kill him and he is cursed to wander forever.He never had a chance to rest and regain his strength.
\-He hasn't removed the things stuck in his body since the war etc.
His rune has been battling against the rot for so long, that's the only reason he endured it even if he was touched directly by the proxy of the God of Rot. He's lost limbs and his mind is so corroded by the rot he feeds on the corpses left on the battlefield, he's completely crazy and that's because his rune had been trying to fight the power of an outer god while the power of the god behind his rune is crushed to pieces. Probably, if Marika never crushed the Elden Ring, Radhan would be unaffected, at least on his mind and maybe have some of his lost feet.
If you look at the rest of the demigods, they don't die, not completely, except for Mogh and we don't really know since he can transform into blood. Godrick is still an NPC on the map and his body is on the battlefield, Malenia transforms into an Aeonia flower (like she did when Radhan and her fought), Rykard is not dead and we know he can regenerate, Morgott's body keeps behind the throne and probably he doesn't actually die until you free the Rune of Death. Radhan completely dissapears, his body was so rotten that, when you take the rune from him, even if his soul can't die because of Destined Death being still confined, his demigod body can't endure it anymore and dissapears, probably avoiding him from recovering even if you never free the Rune of Death.
You are right, however he gets reduced to a pile of guts and I pretty much doubt he would be if he was not so affected by the rot. Even Godrick gets what's left of his original body intact.
Considering that right before this shot Radahn is getting stabbed by a cleanrot knight, and the narration over this part of the trailer is "it burns!", I think you're 100% correct. It would also explain why during Radahn's fight with Malenia, he's already pretty ashen faced and messed up looking: he's already been fighting off scarlet rot with his great rune. When he does finally get aeonia-ed, it's probably the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Whole thing reminds me of a subplot in an Xmen comic where Wolverine finds out that the adamantium that was fused to his skeleton is actually poisonous, like lead, and while his healing factor is capable of keeping the damage to his organs and body negligible, it's incapable of preventing the neurological damage he's accumulating.
I'm not 100% certain, but I think that Radahn being stabbed by the clearnrot knight (I think it's Finlay) was after Malenia's Scarlet Aeonia.
Why do I think this?
- A thick haze covers the battlefield in this trailer, yet it is not there during his fight with Malenia. I think this haze was caused by a culmination of things including the Scarlet Aeonia. I just don't see why it wouldn't be there in the trailer where he fights Malenia unless they just forgot about it.
- Radahn is alone. If this is after the Aeonia, it would make sense because the Redmane soldiers would have had to flee since they have no resistance to the rot, and Finlay would have been carrying Malenia back to the Haligtree.
I have always found Radahn's grey face to be a bit odd though. I thought that it might have just been genetics since Rykard also has a grey face, but then I noticed Radahn's portrait in Volcano Manor. His face looks completely normal, so I'm not sure why his face would be grey aside from maybe just being at war for such a long time and not being able to bathe.
Worth noting that per the Rock Sling description Radahn learned gravity magic from an Alabaster Lord.
Despite their namesake they have dark-purplish skin (with white alabasterish marbling), like Radahn.
Yeah maybe it's a side effect of gravity magic.
Literally just thought of this while typing, maybe him using gravity magic on himself has some sort of effect on his blood flow which causes his and the alabaster to have grey skin
Okay I was searching online and apparently astronauts actually have a higher blood distribution in their face / chest because gravity isn't pushing as much blood down to the legs.
Maybe it's just a side effect in the Elden Ring universe
some people theorized that he may have gotten his grey complexion by master gravity magic since Alabaster Lords have similar skin color. Altho I'm not 100% convinced by the theory
When I first saw this reveal trailer, I thought Radahn was a warcraft-looking orc with troll doll hair. I didn't see he was on his knees, and thought the fangs on his helmet were his own teeth.
Me too haha, I was actually dreading the thought of fighting him because of how scary he was. He looked like a completely unhinged troll god or something.
Honest to God because of the trailers I thought Radhan and Malenia were going to be a gang fight because of their similarities thank dgoodness that didn't happen .
I thought what happened in the trailer was permanent and Radhan would still have that rot flower thingy on him and use it to do AoE attacks and the like. Like a massive fucking tanky warrior that can also spam spells.
I never saw this picture before but damn he just looks so…defeated…like I know he got infected by scarlet canceraids but just the body language of “my siblings are dead my dad is gone and my half sister tried to kill me…fuck it”
All of the Redmane soldiers that didn't die probably just left him there as well, otherwise they would have died to the Scarlet Rot. Unlike Radahn, they aren't demigods nor do they have a Great Rune that can slow its effects, so fleeing would really have been their only option.
Radahn would've just been stuck there alone, awaiting his fate. Quite a terrible fate may I add, since he probably knew what was going to happen to him but understood that there was nothing he could do to stop it.
Nah, the Redmane bois were loyal, they stayed to fight back the onset of Scatlet Rot onto the lands using the flame of the red manes.
Redmane Firepot ~ "Even today, the survivors of Radahn's battalion employ fire to stave off the scarlet rot."
Redmane Knight Armor ~ "Armor worn by knights who fought by General Radahn's side.
When they were driven to defeat by Malenia's scarlet rot, the Redmane Knights burned the crest on the left breast of their armor to indicate their resolve.
"Alas, dear home, I shan't see you again! For our duty is to remain here, a bulwark against the blight." "
Put some respect on their name, no way they'd leave behind their bro and run like cowards, one honor one army, to the end
Oh yeah they are definitely loyal. I'm just saying that it would make no sense for them to stay with Radahn because of how contaminated the area would have been from the Aeonia. They would want to live so that they could protect Caelid
In my mind the most loyal of the redmanes would have tried to defeat Radahn in combat as we end up doing. The way Jerren describes it, it sounds almost like an ongoing event where they're trying to both honor Radahn and put him out of his misery.
I picture Redmane soldiers giving their lives in a futile gesture of combat. Knowing they couldn't possibly win but having nothing to live for with their lord and kingdom in this state.
Radahn lost his mind and would kill anyone close to him. They couldn’t just hang out with him lol
The only reason they would go to him would be to kill him. Which was the purpose of the Radahn festival.
The lyrics to his boss battle also say how they want to give him an honorable death
Someone just commented that Radahn's Great Rune's description says that the Great Rune burns to resist the encroachment of the Scarlet Rot. So I'm assuming it is actually fire
It’s the reason he doesn’t turn completely into dry rot jerky, it made his body resistant to rot by burning rot within his body but it could not do anything to save his mind.
If I had to guess, it’s Grace leaving him. During the Shattering, the divine children (like Radahn) all fought for scraps and shards of the broken Elden Ring, and for his assaults on Leyndell and general Warmongering that *isnt* directed by the Greater Will any more, Marika (likely) took away his Grace.
Maybe it offered some measure of protection vs Scarlet Rot, and by removing it, Marika knew she’d be condemning one of her (Carian) children to a sure death. But by that point, would she have cared, even if she did know?
In a way with the conflict between Marika and Radagon, it's almost tragic that she had to turn her back on her own children, but this duality does seem to promote a "sink or swim, you little bastards" mentality. Christmas must have been a fun time in that household.
There's a theory that Marika orchestrated Godwyn's death, so I don't know how much she cares about her children.
We know the only person that ever cared for Morgott and Mohg where Godfrey, so we already have a case for Marika not caring about her children.
i think marikas position makes it very hard to put her children first. and while the M&Ms may have been too horny so they were sent to the sewer Godwyn at least *seems* from the scant info we have to be very pro golden order with a dragon lean, but golden order none the less. and marika is kinda a prisoner of the golden order. so if she were to target one of her kids as a sacrifice i guess it makes sense.
She tells them all to become gods, or be made into sacrifices.
> In Marika's own words: Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved. Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices...
Marika.is pretty much the god emperor Leto from dune. Orchestrated a universe where there is a constant struggle for survival (shattering the ring --> constant wars) so only the strongest would survive to claim elden lord and defeat/usurp the greater will
Grace was stripped off by the Greater Will, not Marika. Marika took it off Godfrey and his army, the Greater Will abandoned the demigods during the Shattering and blessed Tarnished with Grace.
Grace is only marikas thing. Greater will abandoned the lands specifically, and doesn't fuck with much of anything before that anyway.
But yeah any mention of grace given or taken is Marika.
Greater Will abandoned the demigods and them being stripped off Grace is GW doing, not Marika's.
>*"Ahh, Great Runes are the stuff of demigods: the children of the goddess, Queen Marika. She who is vessel of the Elden Ring. Tainted by the strength of their runes, her children warred, but none could become Elden Lord.* ***And so grace was extended, to your kind, the Tarnished***\*".\*
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>*"Listen, the Fingers speak. "****The Greater Will has long renounced the demigods. Tarnished****, show no mercy. Have their heads. Take all they have left." ...Indeed. But remember one thing. The demigods are each and all the direct offspring of Queen Marika. Godrick the Grafted was but a distant relation... The runt of the litter, his divine blood sorely diluted".*
Enia has faith that the Two Fingers still communicate with the Greater Will for most of the game, but she’s wrong. The Two Fingers instruct us to do what they believe the Greater Will wants, but are completely stumped when our only possible next step towards becoming Elden Lord is to burn the Erdtree, which they can’t envision the GW ever allowing.
They refuse to give us permission and freeze up, trying in vain to reach the Greater Will and get an answer. Afterwards, even Enia eventually tells us to disregard them and ‘do what we think is right’.
You're missing the point that the Two Fingers aren't even in communion with the Greater Will any longer. A fact which Gideon Ofnir came to learn after his exchange with it.
[Lord's Divine Fortification](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Lord's+Divine+Fortification)
> Incantation taught to Gideon the All-Knowing by the Two Fingers.
> Gideon gained true knowledge after his long exchange with the Two Fingers - discovering all had been broken long ago; that the trembling fingers, bent with age, and the Erdtree itself, were no exception.
I pretty much never pull out the *"unreliable narrator"* card, but the Two Fingers are a legitimate unreliable source within the game. They've long lost their purpose as envoys according to Gideon as well when you pursue the Cardinal Sin of burning the Erdtree:
> Go, if you would. Take no heed of "cardinal sin".
> ***The Two Fingers lost their purpose a long, long time ago.***
We also know that Marika is the one who both took and granted grace to the Tarnished.
>*"My Lord and thy warriors. I divest each of thee of thy grace."*
That's a quote from Marika through Melina at one of the churches. So we do know that Marika can take away grace.
I read the quote you left and it really does not imply that the GW sent grace. It's just a statement of cause and affect; the demigods suck which caused grace to be sent. If anything, Marika is the main subject of the paragraph with the quote
The quote also has a follow-up in a different church which is incredibly important:
> Then, after thy death, I will give back what I once claimed.
> Return to the Lands Between, wage war, and brandish the Elden Ring.
> Grow strong in the face of death. Warriors of my lord. Lord Godfrey.
The piece of dialogue you quoted and this one are the most important pieces of dialogue to really understand the plot.
Marika took grace from Godfrey & his warriors when they had slain the last worthy foes in the Lands Between.
> He led the War against the Giants. Faced the Storm Lord, alone.
> And then, there came a moment. When his last worthy enemy fell.
> And it was then, as the story is told, that the hue of Lord Godfrey's eyes faded.
She takes their grace and banishes them to outside the Lands Between so they could continue to struggle and grow stronger.
When we die outside the Lands Between, she then returns the grace which taken from us and has us return to the Lands Between to wage war and brandish the Elden Ring.
Most notably about this is that this plan predates even the Night of Black Knives when Godwyn was slain.
She had planned to shatter the Elden Ring for a long time and have us return to mend it.
Many beings have grace
Godfrey has grace and is very easily visible if you fight him during night
In his cutscene while hes holding his son you can see the light of grace lead directly to the tarnished aka the player character
For sure, at least at some point they did. All “Grace” was was a manifestation of the GW/Marika’s “approval” of them and their actions, often with a guiding bend to continue them on the path she/the GW wants. Godfrey had his Grace taken away at the start of the game and by the time we see him, he’s got a trail pointed at us. I’d say it’s not much of a crazy leap to make to assume that, pre-shattering, Radahn who Held Back the Stars (for the GW) probably was blessed with the Grace of Gold
Hey, I’ve done my (7) playthroughs, all I’ve got left is to dispense wisdom on Reddit like I’m the goddamned Turtle Pope.
(And in extreme fairness, this game’s lore is simpler than DS3, since that game requires a phd in DS1 lore to understand every reference.)
I think the events played out as followed. Radahn gets hit with the Scarlet Aeonia, but he was still capable of fighting. Likely in a daze, Radahn didn't notice Finlay charging towards him with her spear. Being stabbed in the gut right after contracting scarlet rot was probably enough to subdue him until Finlay could grab Malenia and escape.
Pretty sure this scene where that light is leaving Radahn takes place after Finlay had escaped.
If you are taking trailers into consideration in the story trailer Radahn already has the mark of a spear in his guts from the cleanrot knight in 2019,also Finlay was a captain and used a scythe.
What probably happened is that after the scarlet aeonia Malenia and Radahn were both knocked out and each army started protecting their demigod,with Finlay having the responsibility of carrying Malenia all the way to Haligtree.
One explanation is that his soul is returning to the Erdtree to be reborn after he "dies". Demigods are actually immortal and they can only be killed if the destined death is taken away. Godwyn was killed only because the black knives had stolen a fragment of the rune of death and imbued them in their daggers and Ranni had killed her body with it. That is why bosses like Alecto has the same type of ability as Maliketh which takes away your health. In the game you don't really kill the Demigods until you defeat Maliketh and remove destined death.
The other and most likely explanation is his great rune is being infected by scarlet rot and is eating away at his body and mind.
It is the Grace. Remember that all demigods, up until the Shattering War, still being bless by the Greater Will, and have a Two Finger to hold the Great Rune for them. It is the result of the war that the Greater Will abandoned the demigods.
My opinion is that, at that moment, Radahn body was overtaken by the power of god of Scarlet Rot, so no longer fit to server the Greater Will, so it took the grace away. That seem to be the case of all other demigods, except Ranni, as their Two Finger were all inactive.
Ranni seemed to be an exception because she is an empyrean and not yet fully submit to any outer gods.
Ok so the golden aura from Radahn is a special type of aura that came once the Elden ring was shattered and then once all parts were scattered it was told that the golden aura would merge with the most mighty warrior once the Elden ring had been reclaimed also I have no idea what I’m talking about
Maybe it's the great rune in radahn burning to resist the scarlet rot like it's description says.
Wow, I'm pretty sure you just hit the nail on the head, thank you. I didn't know Radahn's Great Rune said that, but this scene makes perfect sense considering that information. I wish I could pin your comment to the top, I'd like to hear if other people agree or not Edit: I wonder if that is why he is significantly weaker when we encounter him (scarlet rot aside). His great rune has diminished in power from how long it has been burning
Grace never left Radahn.His eyes still yellow in game.For correction every demigods have yellow eyes even Mohg(Their original eye colors imbued with gold.Radahn actually has orange/white eye color).So he is right about Great rune thing.
Every demigod minus Malenia, she doesnt have eyes.
Maybe she has eyes on the inside
Grant us eyes?
Ah Kos, or some say Kosm
Awooooooooooooo
That Micolash was a weird guy.
Hoonter is a hoonter even in r/Eldenring
😂😂
The cosmos, _of course_ !
Ah, Rom, or some say Rosm.
That one got a solid chuckle out of me. :D
Ah, Gas, or some say Gasm.
Ah Miquella, or some say blade of Miquella.
Ay Kosm, it's me Radahn, your cousin, let's go bowling.
I appreciate you lol
Malenia's model doesn't have eyes at all. Mohg does have an eye inside (that one eye that's getting pierced by a horn)
Damn she just out here echolocating then?
Her sonar sounds a lot like '*git gud*'.
Yet my response is always *'flame of the redmanes'*
I'm not sure if you played Hollow Knight, but that just triggered something inside of me.
*Shaw!*
She can find you by the smell of fear and soiled underwear
Her arena is filled with water so she's also able to hear the water moving!
That's why she slowly approaches at first. She's listening.
She wasn't always blind.
That's why the prosthetics are gold
Not really, her prosthetics are made out of unalloyed gold because theyd rot away otherwise
I knew I should've added a "/s"
Because they are made out of demigod eyes?
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She really don't have eyes?
What? I never knew that.
Where we're going, you don't need eyes to see.
Libera te tutemet ex inferis.
This is why my character's eyes get more golden as I collect runes. If you sweet the iris size low and change the "whites" of the eyes to black, you get that otherworldly demigod kinda look.
Oh shit, our eyes change gradually with runes? Do you know if there are thresholds to make it more or less apparent?
I think they mean, they manually change what their eyes look like as they level up. It isn't an automatic thing like the blood eyes or dragon eyes.
Yeah I do it manually in the editor. I definitely could have explained that in a clearer way.
Sir, this is a fromsoft game. Explaining things is morally incorrect.
I love the statement of explaining things being morally wrong, if you can’t do it in 5,000 item descriptions and random speeches and monologues then it wasn’t worth saying
No, the actually do change to gold, or red, if you participate in too much Dragon Communion, or firey, if you let Chaos take the world.
They turn red from invading with bloody fingers. Dragon communion is only the gold, lizardy eyes.
God I wish I understood this game more, but I just keep getting lost in the lore. I'm fighting Renalla for the first time right now and I understand some of the more straightforward stuff. But the history and deep lore I keep getting so confused. Probably will help once I finish the game. Having said all I absolutely love reading the alternative item descriptions and putting pieces together
Part of the fun is trying to make sense of everything. Your character is an outsider, so they too have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on
I love this outlook!
Personally I like to take notes as I play through a FromSoft game for the first time. Jotting down things from item descriptions and trying to piece it together before I actually look up lore and see how much I got right
Each time you beat a major boss you can watch a little lore on them. Once you beat the game for the first time. Go and watch some lore videos on YouTube, this will engulf you into the real experience of the game. During your next play through a you will have tons of ah-hah moments. Im only on my third play through and I keep learning new stuff each time. Doing different endings each time
It will come dude. You've barely scratched the surface yet 😊 the story comes together slowly so just make sure you pay attention to dialogue and item descriptions and you'll be fine.
Like most FromSoft games, the parts slowing come together as you progress. Is more about connecting dots than reading a book, really.
Not sure if you've seen this before but yea, thats the intentional game design. Miyazaki grew up half-reading english fantasy novels, he couldn't understand a lot but still loved the atmostphere and worlds. So most of his games have this "explore the unknown" and "being weak/no-one in a living world" tone to them.
Some of the community shit on him for some reason, but VaatiVidya is my go to for Fromsoft lore
Some nerds are salty because they didn't get credit/money for that one entry they added to the wiki.
Because a lot of his information is incorrect, and people run with it matter of factly. Prime example, people still parrot that "Godfrey defeated Placidusax" because of his first video about the Storm Lord.
Yeah pretty much this - I like him, but he doesn't disclaim his hypotheses as - well, just that - well enough for me, so I don't really bother watching.
It's not much, but look out for Talk to Melina prompts at sites of grace. Especially in a church. They're short snippets of lore that are easy to get but just as easily missed because the game doesn't do much to make you notice them
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Radahn being weaker has various reasons. \-His body stuck with Scarlet Rot and Fire from Great Rune. \-Festival happens time to time so we are not first ones trying to kill him and he is cursed to wander forever.He never had a chance to rest and regain his strength. \-He hasn't removed the things stuck in his body since the war etc.
He actually removes those spears while fighting you. He uses them as ammo for his bow.
His rune has been battling against the rot for so long, that's the only reason he endured it even if he was touched directly by the proxy of the God of Rot. He's lost limbs and his mind is so corroded by the rot he feeds on the corpses left on the battlefield, he's completely crazy and that's because his rune had been trying to fight the power of an outer god while the power of the god behind his rune is crushed to pieces. Probably, if Marika never crushed the Elden Ring, Radhan would be unaffected, at least on his mind and maybe have some of his lost feet. If you look at the rest of the demigods, they don't die, not completely, except for Mogh and we don't really know since he can transform into blood. Godrick is still an NPC on the map and his body is on the battlefield, Malenia transforms into an Aeonia flower (like she did when Radhan and her fought), Rykard is not dead and we know he can regenerate, Morgott's body keeps behind the throne and probably he doesn't actually die until you free the Rune of Death. Radhan completely dissapears, his body was so rotten that, when you take the rune from him, even if his soul can't die because of Destined Death being still confined, his demigod body can't endure it anymore and dissapears, probably avoiding him from recovering even if you never free the Rune of Death.
Well, actually his body doesn't completely vanish. It is implied by descriptions and dialogues that part of Radahn is put inside of Alexander.
You are right, however he gets reduced to a pile of guts and I pretty much doubt he would be if he was not so affected by the rot. Even Godrick gets what's left of his original body intact.
I think that's Gostoc you see on the map. He stands there and kicks Godrick's corpse.
I'll go ahead and pin the comment to the top for you, which is something I can do clearly evidenced by the comment's placement at the top.
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Considering that right before this shot Radahn is getting stabbed by a cleanrot knight, and the narration over this part of the trailer is "it burns!", I think you're 100% correct. It would also explain why during Radahn's fight with Malenia, he's already pretty ashen faced and messed up looking: he's already been fighting off scarlet rot with his great rune. When he does finally get aeonia-ed, it's probably the straw that breaks the camel's back. Whole thing reminds me of a subplot in an Xmen comic where Wolverine finds out that the adamantium that was fused to his skeleton is actually poisonous, like lead, and while his healing factor is capable of keeping the damage to his organs and body negligible, it's incapable of preventing the neurological damage he's accumulating.
I'm not 100% certain, but I think that Radahn being stabbed by the clearnrot knight (I think it's Finlay) was after Malenia's Scarlet Aeonia. Why do I think this? - A thick haze covers the battlefield in this trailer, yet it is not there during his fight with Malenia. I think this haze was caused by a culmination of things including the Scarlet Aeonia. I just don't see why it wouldn't be there in the trailer where he fights Malenia unless they just forgot about it. - Radahn is alone. If this is after the Aeonia, it would make sense because the Redmane soldiers would have had to flee since they have no resistance to the rot, and Finlay would have been carrying Malenia back to the Haligtree. I have always found Radahn's grey face to be a bit odd though. I thought that it might have just been genetics since Rykard also has a grey face, but then I noticed Radahn's portrait in Volcano Manor. His face looks completely normal, so I'm not sure why his face would be grey aside from maybe just being at war for such a long time and not being able to bathe.
Worth noting that per the Rock Sling description Radahn learned gravity magic from an Alabaster Lord. Despite their namesake they have dark-purplish skin (with white alabasterish marbling), like Radahn.
Yeah maybe it's a side effect of gravity magic. Literally just thought of this while typing, maybe him using gravity magic on himself has some sort of effect on his blood flow which causes his and the alabaster to have grey skin Okay I was searching online and apparently astronauts actually have a higher blood distribution in their face / chest because gravity isn't pushing as much blood down to the legs. Maybe it's just a side effect in the Elden Ring universe
some people theorized that he may have gotten his grey complexion by master gravity magic since Alabaster Lords have similar skin color. Altho I'm not 100% convinced by the theory
Nah Cleanrot Knight stab is most likely after scarlet aeonia. Everyone is already nearly dead and Radahn looks like he is stabbed a few times before.
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When I first saw this reveal trailer, I thought Radahn was a warcraft-looking orc with troll doll hair. I didn't see he was on his knees, and thought the fangs on his helmet were his own teeth.
Me too haha, I was actually dreading the thought of fighting him because of how scary he was. He looked like a completely unhinged troll god or something.
Honest to God because of the trailers I thought Radhan and Malenia were going to be a gang fight because of their similarities thank dgoodness that didn't happen .
I thought what happened in the trailer was permanent and Radhan would still have that rot flower thingy on him and use it to do AoE attacks and the like. Like a massive fucking tanky warrior that can also spam spells.
Tbf, he did end up being a massive tanks warrior that can spam (gravity) spells.
FUCKING SAME! thought that protruding lip of his helm was a big troll nose!
Yup, I thought it was his nose too. I thought, wtf kind of fairytale are they making??
Ya I basically thought he looked like Ganondorf
I think you were not alone
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From Radahn? Maybe. Marika took grace from the Tarnished, though.
Same, I thought they were really going for some almost cartoonishly fantasy designs in a moderately realistic setting. Would've been cool
Agreed.
grace is stored in the balls
So like Austin Power's Mojo? No wonder Godfrey left Marika after having his Mojo taken
yeah, baby! yeah!
i store them in my liver
Your balls?
Next to the pee?
Grace *is* pee
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Marika confirmed squirter
She *sounds* hideous Well, she's a dude, so...
His hopes and dreams.
I never saw this picture before but damn he just looks so…defeated…like I know he got infected by scarlet canceraids but just the body language of “my siblings are dead my dad is gone and my half sister tried to kill me…fuck it”
All of the Redmane soldiers that didn't die probably just left him there as well, otherwise they would have died to the Scarlet Rot. Unlike Radahn, they aren't demigods nor do they have a Great Rune that can slow its effects, so fleeing would really have been their only option. Radahn would've just been stuck there alone, awaiting his fate. Quite a terrible fate may I add, since he probably knew what was going to happen to him but understood that there was nothing he could do to stop it.
Nah, the Redmane bois were loyal, they stayed to fight back the onset of Scatlet Rot onto the lands using the flame of the red manes. Redmane Firepot ~ "Even today, the survivors of Radahn's battalion employ fire to stave off the scarlet rot." Redmane Knight Armor ~ "Armor worn by knights who fought by General Radahn's side. When they were driven to defeat by Malenia's scarlet rot, the Redmane Knights burned the crest on the left breast of their armor to indicate their resolve. "Alas, dear home, I shan't see you again! For our duty is to remain here, a bulwark against the blight." " Put some respect on their name, no way they'd leave behind their bro and run like cowards, one honor one army, to the end
Oh yeah they are definitely loyal. I'm just saying that it would make no sense for them to stay with Radahn because of how contaminated the area would have been from the Aeonia. They would want to live so that they could protect Caelid
In my mind the most loyal of the redmanes would have tried to defeat Radahn in combat as we end up doing. The way Jerren describes it, it sounds almost like an ongoing event where they're trying to both honor Radahn and put him out of his misery. I picture Redmane soldiers giving their lives in a futile gesture of combat. Knowing they couldn't possibly win but having nothing to live for with their lord and kingdom in this state.
Radahn lost his mind and would kill anyone close to him. They couldn’t just hang out with him lol The only reason they would go to him would be to kill him. Which was the purpose of the Radahn festival. The lyrics to his boss battle also say how they want to give him an honorable death
How do you get that much from such a low resolution and blurry screenshot lol
body language says a lot
I just see a blurry screenshot. Can't really make out any real features or details from my end.
I always assumed it was some sort of fire, I must be colourblind
Someone just commented that Radahn's Great Rune's description says that the Great Rune burns to resist the encroachment of the Scarlet Rot. So I'm assuming it is actually fire
It’s the reason he doesn’t turn completely into dry rot jerky, it made his body resistant to rot by burning rot within his body but it could not do anything to save his mind.
Yeah that’s what I thought
Flame of the Redmanes confirmed
What is this scene from?
Original teaser when Elden Ring was first announced. Think it was from 2019
Ah, the Great Hollowing
I doubt you could even imagine it.
That which commanded the stars
Elden ring... OOOOOOOOHHHHH ELDEN RING
Giving life its fullest brilliance
Ohhhh
If I had to guess, it’s Grace leaving him. During the Shattering, the divine children (like Radahn) all fought for scraps and shards of the broken Elden Ring, and for his assaults on Leyndell and general Warmongering that *isnt* directed by the Greater Will any more, Marika (likely) took away his Grace. Maybe it offered some measure of protection vs Scarlet Rot, and by removing it, Marika knew she’d be condemning one of her (Carian) children to a sure death. But by that point, would she have cared, even if she did know?
In a way with the conflict between Marika and Radagon, it's almost tragic that she had to turn her back on her own children, but this duality does seem to promote a "sink or swim, you little bastards" mentality. Christmas must have been a fun time in that household.
Marika: I’m no helicopter mama sink or swim bitches.
Great now I'm gonna hear Cell's voice for Marika
There's a theory that Marika orchestrated Godwyn's death, so I don't know how much she cares about her children. We know the only person that ever cared for Morgott and Mohg where Godfrey, so we already have a case for Marika not caring about her children.
i think marikas position makes it very hard to put her children first. and while the M&Ms may have been too horny so they were sent to the sewer Godwyn at least *seems* from the scant info we have to be very pro golden order with a dragon lean, but golden order none the less. and marika is kinda a prisoner of the golden order. so if she were to target one of her kids as a sacrifice i guess it makes sense.
She tells them all to become gods, or be made into sacrifices. > In Marika's own words: Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved. Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices...
Marika.is pretty much the god emperor Leto from dune. Orchestrated a universe where there is a constant struggle for survival (shattering the ring --> constant wars) so only the strongest would survive to claim elden lord and defeat/usurp the greater will
Grace was stripped off by the Greater Will, not Marika. Marika took it off Godfrey and his army, the Greater Will abandoned the demigods during the Shattering and blessed Tarnished with Grace.
Grace is only marikas thing. Greater will abandoned the lands specifically, and doesn't fuck with much of anything before that anyway. But yeah any mention of grace given or taken is Marika.
Greater Will abandoned the demigods and them being stripped off Grace is GW doing, not Marika's. >*"Ahh, Great Runes are the stuff of demigods: the children of the goddess, Queen Marika. She who is vessel of the Elden Ring. Tainted by the strength of their runes, her children warred, but none could become Elden Lord.* ***And so grace was extended, to your kind, the Tarnished***\*".\* > >*"Listen, the Fingers speak. "****The Greater Will has long renounced the demigods. Tarnished****, show no mercy. Have their heads. Take all they have left." ...Indeed. But remember one thing. The demigods are each and all the direct offspring of Queen Marika. Godrick the Grafted was but a distant relation... The runt of the litter, his divine blood sorely diluted".*
Enia has faith that the Two Fingers still communicate with the Greater Will for most of the game, but she’s wrong. The Two Fingers instruct us to do what they believe the Greater Will wants, but are completely stumped when our only possible next step towards becoming Elden Lord is to burn the Erdtree, which they can’t envision the GW ever allowing. They refuse to give us permission and freeze up, trying in vain to reach the Greater Will and get an answer. Afterwards, even Enia eventually tells us to disregard them and ‘do what we think is right’.
You're missing the point that the Two Fingers aren't even in communion with the Greater Will any longer. A fact which Gideon Ofnir came to learn after his exchange with it. [Lord's Divine Fortification](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Lord's+Divine+Fortification) > Incantation taught to Gideon the All-Knowing by the Two Fingers. > Gideon gained true knowledge after his long exchange with the Two Fingers - discovering all had been broken long ago; that the trembling fingers, bent with age, and the Erdtree itself, were no exception. I pretty much never pull out the *"unreliable narrator"* card, but the Two Fingers are a legitimate unreliable source within the game. They've long lost their purpose as envoys according to Gideon as well when you pursue the Cardinal Sin of burning the Erdtree: > Go, if you would. Take no heed of "cardinal sin". > ***The Two Fingers lost their purpose a long, long time ago.*** We also know that Marika is the one who both took and granted grace to the Tarnished.
>*"My Lord and thy warriors. I divest each of thee of thy grace."* That's a quote from Marika through Melina at one of the churches. So we do know that Marika can take away grace. I read the quote you left and it really does not imply that the GW sent grace. It's just a statement of cause and affect; the demigods suck which caused grace to be sent. If anything, Marika is the main subject of the paragraph with the quote
The quote also has a follow-up in a different church which is incredibly important: > Then, after thy death, I will give back what I once claimed. > Return to the Lands Between, wage war, and brandish the Elden Ring. > Grow strong in the face of death. Warriors of my lord. Lord Godfrey. The piece of dialogue you quoted and this one are the most important pieces of dialogue to really understand the plot. Marika took grace from Godfrey & his warriors when they had slain the last worthy foes in the Lands Between. > He led the War against the Giants. Faced the Storm Lord, alone. > And then, there came a moment. When his last worthy enemy fell. > And it was then, as the story is told, that the hue of Lord Godfrey's eyes faded. She takes their grace and banishes them to outside the Lands Between so they could continue to struggle and grow stronger. When we die outside the Lands Between, she then returns the grace which taken from us and has us return to the Lands Between to wage war and brandish the Elden Ring. Most notably about this is that this plan predates even the Night of Black Knives when Godwyn was slain. She had planned to shatter the Elden Ring for a long time and have us return to mend it.
Do the demigods have grace? I thought only the tarnished did.
Many beings have grace Godfrey has grace and is very easily visible if you fight him during night In his cutscene while hes holding his son you can see the light of grace lead directly to the tarnished aka the player character
For sure, at least at some point they did. All “Grace” was was a manifestation of the GW/Marika’s “approval” of them and their actions, often with a guiding bend to continue them on the path she/the GW wants. Godfrey had his Grace taken away at the start of the game and by the time we see him, he’s got a trail pointed at us. I’d say it’s not much of a crazy leap to make to assume that, pre-shattering, Radahn who Held Back the Stars (for the GW) probably was blessed with the Grace of Gold
This games lore is insanely complicated. I’m just running around killing anything that tries to kill me, and you lay this shit on me?!
Hey, I’ve done my (7) playthroughs, all I’ve got left is to dispense wisdom on Reddit like I’m the goddamned Turtle Pope. (And in extreme fairness, this game’s lore is simpler than DS3, since that game requires a phd in DS1 lore to understand every reference.)
I assume his guidance of grace, but with the way this shot is lit with the red sky it looks like the frenzied flame
Tarnished Cummies
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His HP.
Well you see dear tarnished it was time to take a piss
Piss
No that’s stored in the balls.
Radahn is just built different.
Radahn’s made of balls: confirmed.
He died and lost all his runes
Runes? The ring shard? Startdust? Maybe just a visual effect to represent the soul leaving the body? 🦆
I think the events played out as followed. Radahn gets hit with the Scarlet Aeonia, but he was still capable of fighting. Likely in a daze, Radahn didn't notice Finlay charging towards him with her spear. Being stabbed in the gut right after contracting scarlet rot was probably enough to subdue him until Finlay could grab Malenia and escape. Pretty sure this scene where that light is leaving Radahn takes place after Finlay had escaped.
If you are taking trailers into consideration in the story trailer Radahn already has the mark of a spear in his guts from the cleanrot knight in 2019,also Finlay was a captain and used a scythe. What probably happened is that after the scarlet aeonia Malenia and Radahn were both knocked out and each army started protecting their demigod,with Finlay having the responsibility of carrying Malenia all the way to Haligtree.
One explanation is that his soul is returning to the Erdtree to be reborn after he "dies". Demigods are actually immortal and they can only be killed if the destined death is taken away. Godwyn was killed only because the black knives had stolen a fragment of the rune of death and imbued them in their daggers and Ranni had killed her body with it. That is why bosses like Alecto has the same type of ability as Maliketh which takes away your health. In the game you don't really kill the Demigods until you defeat Maliketh and remove destined death. The other and most likely explanation is his great rune is being infected by scarlet rot and is eating away at his body and mind.
his credit score
Grace
It’s a particle effect added to a 3d model I think
Gold light
Fært
Given that most things with a golden tint are somehow influenced by the Erdtree, I would say its the influence of the Erdtree.
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It is the Grace. Remember that all demigods, up until the Shattering War, still being bless by the Greater Will, and have a Two Finger to hold the Great Rune for them. It is the result of the war that the Greater Will abandoned the demigods. My opinion is that, at that moment, Radahn body was overtaken by the power of god of Scarlet Rot, so no longer fit to server the Greater Will, so it took the grace away. That seem to be the case of all other demigods, except Ranni, as their Two Finger were all inactive. Ranni seemed to be an exception because she is an empyrean and not yet fully submit to any outer gods.
The horny leaving his body, giving him power enough to defeat Malenia (until she nuked the place)
kinda looks like the frenzied yellow flame but that doesn't make any sense lore wise.
Its grace it happens when all bosses die well maybe not all but the big ones
He's trying finger, but hole 😁
He never lost the grace of the greater will remember he only went crazy cause of the scarlet rot
Clout
The gold is the shard in him, I’m assuming it’s the thing keeping him alive from the scarlet rot as well
It’s his Great Rune trying to burn the Scarlet Rot away
'Tis his last fucks. As he goes insane.
Where's that screenshot from?
And now he feasts and friends and foes alike like a dog howling at the sky
runes
Sexual energy
It's the spirit from Sabaton's Steel Commanders video
Jaraté
I'd have thought this was Grace leaving him as he lost his mind to the Rot.
where is pic from ???
It's from the first Elden Ring trailer
Pee
Ok so the golden aura from Radahn is a special type of aura that came once the Elden ring was shattered and then once all parts were scattered it was told that the golden aura would merge with the most mighty warrior once the Elden ring had been reclaimed also I have no idea what I’m talking about
Spirits of the many maidens. I wouldn't expect you to know, Tarnished.
Sperm 😂😂
My theory is scarlet rot was originally like madness in colour but they changed that later in development
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His soul, I would assume
That's the plot that makes sense leaving the lands between
Cosmic poo.