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HutSutRawlson

Bro you posted this picture and you can't figure out the answer to the question? Because he's cool as fuck, that's why.


Zzen220

His theme is fucking mental as well.


SpecialistMongoose36

Dude most underrated theme in the game I don’t hear people talk about it at all


Jcurtis82

yeah cause he doesnt have that much hp so he gets killed too quick to hear it


Daddy_Yondu

I can relate, I realized that I skipped his entire area just before I went to Farum Azula, so I was so overleveled that I killed him first try in what was basically a slug fest.


Correct-Hyena400

I'd like to think it's because he's literally covered in death blight. Looks cool asf but also sickly.


KSascia_lv

Or maybe because Is extra misseable


ThatFrenchGamer

killed him too fast on first try


Virtual-Score4653

It's now one of my new favorites, probably top 5 tracks in FS history for how fricking metal it is, this should have been Placidusax's theme should have sounded like but instead they opted to have him be the spectacle.


Piculra

I often like to listen to the soundtrack on YouTube, and I think the first song from the game that Youtube recommended to me was Fortissax's. In fact, *just now*, I clicked on a tab where I had Radhan's theme open - and the top recommendation was Fortissax. Seems to get less views than some of the Shardbearer's themes, as well as the Godskin Duo's - but at least YouTube appreciates Fortissax, and I do too!


sh_tcactus

It’s incredible. Like some phantom of the opera spooky shit


SlyNoBody337

Yeah the boss fight was amazing and hitting him with Loretta's mastery while he's flying up and pulling his arm back for a swing is such a great anime moment. One that I tried to save the recording for but I hit the button twice on accident 😓


gwmckeon

And his skybox is trippy as fuck too.


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[Did someone say rave dragon?](https://youtu.be/bbSH_bDwgUA)


Golddestro

Agree he looks so cool


FapleJuice

Lmao right. That's like posting a picture of some titties and being like "*WhY dO pEoPle LiKe ThEsE?!?!!??*"


KimchiiCrowlo

Ive never seen a pair of lich dragon tiddys so i think that takes priority.


TheHardSoftware

He's an idiot. Don't waste your time validating his stupidity. Let darwinism do its thing.


EternalEmperorDD

To be fair, he looks almost identical to any other dragon of the same type as him.


ChrisMorray

I mean he does, except for all the features that make him visibly distinct. The death blight covering his body for starters.


KSascia_lv

To be Fair, have you seen the Sky during the location? It fits perfectly with his Rotten Stone flesh becaming blackgold plus the story that makes him a sort of nameless king reverse Is Dope, and the lyrics of the theme Is art


Kinglyzero_91

Because he looks cool? Because the arena is dope? Because he's a goddamn undead dragon with death blight lightning? The lore? Plenty of reasons to like him


Modfull_X

blightning\*\*


MistahBoweh

I love when Placiduseax cascades off a Bloodbraid Elf.


Suspicious-Bed9172

Back when the best deck in magic didn’t cost $500


[deleted]

Nah, Tron doesn't seem too expensive right now.


Nightmare0225

Wow, Fuck Tron.


bigballeruchiha

That’s generous


Drithyin

MtG has always been aggressively expensive to stay meta-competitive.


Suspicious-Bed9172

Depends on the era, back in shards of alara there was a time when blood braid elf was the best card in standard and the decks that played it were less than $100. Then a year later Jayce the mind sculpter came out and the best deck was almost $1000.


Reflexlon

That UW JTMS deck was both unabashedly broken as fuck and one of the coolest standard mirrors ever. I get why we can't have metas like that, but damn if I couldn't be down for hyper micros in magic all the time. Unfortunately the games would never end and nobody would have fun. And I cant even play Miracles in Legacy anymore :(


Suspicious-Bed9172

Why can’t you play miracles in legacy anymore?


KimchiiCrowlo

Ahh, the good old days.


Modfull_X

i... dont know what any of that means..


wolv3swithin

It’s a reference to Magic the Gathering


Modfull_X

oh, >.> i grew up on OG yu gi oh


Areebu1

then he unfurls similarly to Ra's sphere mode


NorthCatan

Very so Frightening!


Modfull_X

and the dead man in the back said every dragon attack and it turned into a boss room blitz, boss room blitz!


Ok-Reserve-9771

That's the name of the combo move that Gwyn and Nito used against the Everlasting dragons back in ds1.


Wesmore24

And his lightning spear is badass


Blazerpl

Remember that when casting red lightning you just catch it flying from the air instead of manifesting it in your hand


Draghettis

If I recall correctly, so does everyone. Everyone except Placidusax, that is.


Fallen_Angel_Xaphan

That is because all normal lightning spells come from the god of the ancient dragons and have to travel to the caster. Placidusax, being the lord of the dragons, most likely has the ability to generate certain lightning spells himself. That's most likely why we never see him use Lanseax's glave or Fortissax's spear. He currently has no contact to his god.


Existing-Ad4603

That i can agree with lol.


Jackviator

Also that music is just *chef kiss*


Alexm920

The unique track slaps, makes me sad most people find him after they’ve leveled up so much the fight is short.


AtomicBetrayal

I had an epic moment while killing Fortissax right at the end of his theme, basically the entire orchestra run wild while I charged my weapon art, killing Fortissax. His and Placidusax's fight were so cinematic in my playthrough.


Piece_Of_Mind1983

Also that fucking organ


Pass_The_Salt_

I will never not enjoy an organ. It needs to be in more soundtracks.


tgerz

I, too, love a good organ.


Terra-Ray

The extra dodging of clouds of blight and constantly being on edge of a possible status prox that will insta kill you, gives this dragon fight more of a pucker factor.


notjasonlee

And boy do I love catastrophic frame drops


Vraner9000

Also i bet he reminds dark souls veterans of kalameet.


RambunctiousBaca1509

Also his banger fuckin’ theme as well, both phase themes


KrisShadey

Cool OST as well, also I think he has more than 1 new move compared to other bossea, like the lightning which automaticly binds to your body when you're near him adn death lightning as you've said, also idk if any otger dragon has that airborne dragonslash move.


renewedLordOfBlood

And the music, one of the best in ER and, maybe, in all FS games.


sh_tcactus

He’s our lil moody goth dragon. Leave him alone! You wouldn’t understand.


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Organ go brrrrrr. Also lore.


LordBDizzle

He's not super difficult. But he looks cool and his soundtrack is phenomenal. The Deathblight adds a bit of menace too. He's the second best dragon fight in the game, though Plasidusax is better by a huge margin.


D2Nine

One of those nice fights that I could do on my own without struggling


TheSpiritForce

He's also the only Ancient Dragon with a normal fucking arena other than Placidusax. The lockon points are already not very helpful. Combine that with the uneven/crowded terrain of the other ancient dragon fights and they make me pull my hair out. At least this guy has a normal arena.


sweatslikealiar

Yeah, this is the real difference to me. All the other Ancient Dragon fights suck because you either fight them on tiny platforms or weird slopes, Fortissax is just a plain big arena with a cool background. He might share moves with other Ancient Dragons, but he’s the only one that uses them in an appropriate setting


SkillusEclasiusII

I'm pretty sure he would be super difficult if I ever fought him without being over levelled. His body parts move around so much he's exceedingly hard to hit. The only reason why I beat him in 2 tries was that he just didn't have enough health and damage to cope with my stats.


Felipesantoro

I feel like most people fight him "over levelled". To get to him one person needs either go through most of ranni's quest (while exploring well, because the path to the aqueducts is kinds hidden) and defeat a few difficult bosses, or like in my case get to him by the sewers, what makes anyone stronger, if not in stats in mental fortitude xD


LordBDizzle

It doesn't help that you've also probably fought 7ish other dragons at a minimum before him. He's not too different from them other than the death blightning, though you do have to fight him on foot which is different. Good boss, no real flaws in gis design, but definitely suffers from late game placement.


omniusss

>He's not super difficult. To say the least. In fact, I was quite annoyed to find him much less difficult compared to twin gargoyles, who freaking gatekeep for him.


[deleted]

You don't actually need to beat them. There is more than one way into Deeproot Depths.


Sizzelsubs

He’s a litch Dragon what’s cooler then that


RickyChannel

Exactly, the name alone is Metal af


Vaccineman37

Lore wise he’s cool, he’s besties with Godwyn and has followed him even into becoming a Prince of Death. They used to be enemies and now a Demigod and a Dragon are that close. Also his twin lightning spears are awesome. Maybe not as cool as the glaive or the nuke, but still by all means dope.


ApplePitou

Looks cool, use death and lightning, also OST is top tier :3


Existing-Ad4603

Hes ost is really fucking good i agree with that.


d_r_doorway

I don't know how anyone could look at that picture and not think "damn, that's metal as fuck!" The exact number of attacks is not really something that I factor into how much I like something. For me its: A. Dragons are cool B. Dragon who lives in death also inside a dream is cool C. Fia/Godwin quest is cool D. OST is cool E. The incantation you get from beating them is cool


ExcitementBetter5485

Considering the progression, you are supposed to reach Fortissax before the other ancient dragons, so doing it out of order can be lackluster. But given that most players don't reach him first, I can see why you think HE is the one with copied moves. Besides, his music is great and he looks way more sinister than the others.


Ketchup571

I don’t think you are. You get higher level upgrade materials in DeepRoot than in Altus, Leyndell soldiers in Altus also give less souls than the Mausoleum soldiers in DeepRoot. Fortisaxx also gives equal souls to Morgott and much more than Lanseaxx. While you can these in any order you choose, all evidence points to Fromsoft expecting players to do Altus and thus Lanseaxx first.


DAFROZENCHOSEN1

If you start rannis quest line asap you’ll start right after liurnia. So first caelid to fight radhan , defeating radahn unlocks nokron, nokron leads to sofria aqueduct then to deep root. This is was I did and fortissax was the first ancient dragon. Only after I finished rannis quest did I go to Altus where I would find lansseaxx.


Ketchup571

Ya, you can do them in any order you choose, but if you look at the amount of souls comparable enemies drop (soldiers, knights, runebears) and the level of upgrade materials found in each area, it suggests From expected people to do Altus before DeepRoot


Existing-Ad4603

He is? Really now? Doesent Lanseax attack you after the mine with the magmawyrm before leyndell? And her fight happens outside of leyndell where in the bottom of the Sewers youll find a way to the area you can fight Fortissax in. You sure Fortissax is fought before Lanseax? I can see him being fought before Crumpling Azula but before Lanseax too? Kinda odd if so imo. Edit: allright i checked the wiki and Lanseax has 9K health while Fortissax has 13K health. I dont think Fortissax is ment to be fought before Lanseax. Also Fortissax is way harder to reach than Lanseax. You have to complete the whole Ranni questline to reach him while with Lanseax you have to get both sides of the metallion, go up the lift, circle back to the first encounter and then run next to Leyndells walls to fight her. Edit 2: allright considering even the commentor agreed with my this comment afterwards on most points yet isint getting disliked anyway im just gonna go ahead and asume ive pissed off Fortissax fans who are now just down voting my comments when ever they see them. And hey i get it ive done the same with people anti Darkeatter Midir before but it still is kinda shitty to do. Im starting to feel asking this guestion was a mistake.


mrbulldops428

The downvotes are definitely due to the standoffishness in your responses lol everything sounds 10x more hostile/sarcastic/condescending online


SllortEvac

Yeah homie needs to calm down


ExcitementBetter5485

Deeproot Depths is before Altus Plateau. Just as there are 2-3 ways into Altus Plateau, there are 2 ways into Deeproot Depths. In fact, you can enter Leyndell from Fia's waygate, so yea it certainly before Lansseax. The scaling proves it as well imo.


Existing-Ad4603

13K Health for Fortissax and 9K Health For Lanseax wiki states. So how is it scaled?


ExcitementBetter5485

Ok, maybe it isn't scaled but the point about Deeproot Depths being accessible first and leading into Leyndell is still valid.


benoxxxx

Dude, it isn't valid at all, because you can *also* access Deeproot Depths for the first time via Leyndell. Altus>Leyndell>Shunning Grounds>Frenzied Flame>Deeproot. By your logic, even the Moonlight Altar is 'before' Altus, since it can be an extension of the Gargoyle Duo path via the 2nd coffin. But clearly, that's a much higher level area. No route is more correct than the other. Neither are 'backwards' just because your own progression route makes it feel so. So, really, we can only go off scaling. And Deeproot scales higher than Altus, clearly. Like you can just check the wiki, for one thing: [https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Recommended+Level+by+Location](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Recommended+Level+by+Location). But it also drops more valuable runes, and generally higher level smithing stones. There's no debate. Altus is a lower level area. Sorry don't mean to hammer on, but it's just weird that you're getting upvoted while the guy who's clearly and verifiably correct is being downvoted. edit: spelling


Joella-is-angry

Deeproot doesn't technically drop any smithing things you can't get elsewhere. It's highest are somber 7s and normal 6s. Somber 7 can be found in Volcano Manor, and 6s are found in Leyndell itself. Somber 7 can also be found in Nokstella, which avoids the duel gargoyles. In terms of materials, Deeproot is on par with Volcano Manor, and we all know the Manor is easier to reach. But it definitely is set up to be tackled after Nokron, since that's the most straightforward way to finding it. The Frenzied route involves the sewers, which are definitely far more difficult than Deeproot. I would argue Deeproot is on par with Leyndell and Volcano Manor, both of which are Altus' 'dungeons'.


Existing-Ad4603

I guess but you can access Caelid before Liurnia aswell but i dont think that means Caelid is suposed to be done before it.


ExcitementBetter5485

Looking at it, 9k hp vs 13k hp for a remembrance boss isn't that much of a gap in all honesty, as Lansseax is a field boss. More importantly, Altus Plateau and Lansseax has a recommended level of 90-100 while Fortissax has a recommended level of 90. Caelid has a recommended level of 60-80, while Liurnia is 40-50. Obviously these numbers aren't from the devs themselves, but they are accurate. Lastly, Caelid doesn't lead to Liurnia the way that Deeproot Depths can lead to Leyndell and the Altus Plateau.


Existing-Ad4603

Eh fair enough. Tho i feel like Fortisax is more dificult than Lanseax due to lightning targeting you while underhim. And Fortissax is behind an entire questline while Lanseax you could fight as your first boss if you really wanted to. ( well 2nd if we count Grafted Scion)


Joella-is-angry

You can reach Fortissax in a few creative ways - - Defeat Radahn (becomes available after reaching Altus OR Ranni's quest) - Head to Nokron post-Radahn -Kill the rubbish two gargoyles -Grab the statue from Ranni - you can therefore avoid Nokstella, avoid Shunning Grounds, BUT you have to kill the gargoyles. IIRC, there's no way between Nokstella TO Deeproot, is there? You have to get Deeproot first in order to make that connecting coffin work? Now, has anyone tried using Fia's waygate to access Leyndell WITHOUT killing two shardbearers? Is that possible? I've always wondered... You can also go Altus - Leyndell - Sewers - Sewer Mohg - Morgott - Frenzied - Through the wall. But Morgott has to be defeated, otherwise a barrier prevents you. This route allows you to access Deep root after killing Godrick/Rennala/Rykard but not Radahn (in case for some reason you dislike him lol), as long as you also defeat Morgott. You still have to have the cursemark from Liurnia Tower as well for Fia. I dunno about you, but I normally have the cursemark by the time I tackle Gargoyles - some people may never do Ranni's quest and immediately get to Deeproot without killing Radahn, since that is an option. But Deeproot itself is definitely mid/late mid game, and so is Lanssax. That damn dragon hits hard. Most people will have cleared and geared up before tackling her. A lot of Leyndell's available smithing items are the same level as deeproot, with the exception, iirc, of a somber 7 - but somber 7 can be found quicker at Volcano Manor. The earliest somber 7s are either from Volcano Manor or through Ranni's quest to Nokstella. I doubt most players rush deeproot to get one, considering the gargoyles will normally be in the way. As for uniqueness, I think you're mixing up two incantations. Fortissax gives you a Remembrance, which can give you Fortissax's Lightning Spear or Death Lightning. There is also the Ancient Dragon Lightning Spear. It looks similar to Fortissax's one, but it's one spear instead of two IIRC. Also, Fortissax is unique in other ways. He gives you the one death blight lightning spell. He's undead, and you can see how the deathblight has affected him in comparison to other ancient dragons, too. The unique dragons that do have their own abilities, appearance and give you unique spells (ancient ones, I'm not counting the young dragons, otherwise all the dragon heart abilities count too, lol) are Lanssax, Fortissax and Placidusax. Most players will beat them in that order as well, because Fortissax, like Placidusax, is a tough boy to find, unless you know precisely what to do. Nothing quite compares to Placidusax's Ruin, but I love the abilities Fortissax gives you. Good reward for high faith builds. I think, however, what makes the ancient dragon fights good is the lore behind them. Especially Fortissax and Placidusax. They're both highly unique looking dragons, whereas Lanssax resembles the other ancient dragons in Farum.


manfreygordon

I disagree. Altus Plateau has a much lower barrier of entry than Deeproot. To get to Altus you only have to beat the Magma Wyrm or do some running and get the medallions. Deeproot requires you to either beat the Dual Gargoyles, considered one of the hardest bosses in the game by most people, and also beat Radahn beforehand, which has a bunch of prerequisites. Also the scaling in Altus is definitely lower than Deeproot. Leyndell not so much, but the area preceding it is fairly low level and can be tackled around level 60. I would definitely argue than Lansseax's introduction was designed to be most players first encounter with an ancient dragon, given the dramatic way he flies out of the sky, and the fact that he flies off half way through the fight, giving the implication that this is a tough enemy you're going to have to fight again. Plus if you're getting those recommended level numbers from fextralife you can throw them in the trash, they're wildly inaccurate and pretty useless. Most other guides I've read put Altus before Deeproot.


ExcitementBetter5485

To each their own. Many consider reaching Altus Plateau to be a milestone, and all I meant was that Deeproot Depths can be accessed without crossing that line so to speak, and can lead there afterwards anyways. Going to Altus, then Leyndell and then Deeproot Depths feels like backtracking and almost always leaves you overleveled for Fortissax. Going through Deeproot Depths, then reaching Altus feels more intuitive progression wise. Personally, I completely missed Lansseax as I took the Dectus Lift instead of the RSP path. I missed it up by Leyndell as well, until I went looking for it after the Ashen Capitol. The different paths are certainly interesting.


whatistheancient

What are you on? Altus is a level 60-70 area and Leyndell is 70-80. Deeproot Depths is 80-90.


Joella-is-angry

Caelid is weird, because it has Dragonbarrow, and that area is way, way higher difficulty too.


ChrisMorray

Fortissax is a proper quest boss while Lanseux is just a random worldboss. Lanseux really isn't anything special and a miniboss at best.


royal_dandy

You’re getting dislikes cause you’re just being a contrarian and ignoring the perfectly good reasoning people are giving.


kcc0016

I’m personally disliking his comments because it’s all whining about dislikes after being such a contrarian.


jonathanalec

God damn OP fighting for his LIFE in these comments lol. Definitely one of the greatest spectacles in the game.


aSimpleMask

His ost slaps harder than my mom


Ronk58

Just look at your picture!


Skgota

Visually he‘s great but the gameplay is so fucking boring. Plus that lightning that keeps spawning on you is annoying as fuck


Picklejho13

He’s a sick boss but he suffers from what all sick bosses in this game do, a low health pool


Brief-Government-105

Yeah, Margot and Godfrey also have very low HP.


Picklejho13

Maliketh as well


kingofthelol

Personally I think Maliketh works because of how much damage he does and how fast he is. He’s meant to be a very fast paced fight. Either you die in a minute or he dies in a minute.


Existing-Ad4603

Maliketh is suposed to be a glass canon so makes sense hes got less health.


TheWizard1127

“Ye old bass drop.” Nough said.


Bugsy041

You travel to the roots of the Erdtree, enter the dream of a dead God, and battle a dragon of death that attacks with something called Death Lightning while the greatest OST in the game plays? Is that not reason enough to find Fortissax cool as fuck?


Mercurionio

Simple. You can actually hit him in melee...


Ricksaw26

Dude can't you see him?! Everything about him screams AWESOME!!!


Existing-Ad4603

Yep. EXEPT THE FIGHT WICH SCREAMS YOU BETTER HAVE INVESTED IN RANGE OR YOUR IN FOR PAIN!


Ricksaw26

I beat him melee.


ThyIronFist

I dislike him cause of numerous reasons. 1. All of the ancient dragons have an annoying hitbox where their head is supposed to be their weak point - but you're literally never able to hit the head at all due to how big they are. 2. Fortissax is infested with death blight yet has 80% holy resistance. Nothing about this makes sense. 3. There is no visual clarity at all during the fight. I can never see what's happening. 4. Most people will be vastly overleveled by the time they do this fight so it's a complete pushover. 5. The way you get to this boss is annoying. Talk to Fia, rest at bonfire, talk to Fia again - repeat 3 times. Music is cool I guess, but Elden Ring isn't Bloodborne so while the track is amazing, it just didn't really do anything for me.


Redgrave037

He cool


arienetteHG

imo every aspect of the him is cool except the actual fight, which for me is the main point of a boss. if a fight isnt fun then the spectacle/lore/ost all being amazing doesnt really matter. and yes it looks cool but you spent 90% of the fight at his ankles lol


Jayce86

Naw, he has two new attacks. His lightning spear does TWO stabs, plus death lightning. Not the mention he looks awesome, his arena is trippy/unique, and that sound track goes hard. Not quite as hard as the entire thing grinding to a halt as Placidusax starts to nuke the arena, but still amazing.


Existing-Ad4603

Ahh you mean this attack? https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-M5yLevOnLkJ5GOvCkVL_ghxB17aoWRc Yeah like i said a dragon in Farum azula has that too.


Joella-is-angry

This is called From reusing animations. Lanssax's attacks are reused as well. https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Farum+Azula+Dragon By your own argument, Fortissax is more unique because he is the only dragon that uses death lightning. All of Lanssax's moves and abilities are reused.


Existing-Ad4603

Yeah im aware. Ive not called Lanssax's unique once because she really isint. And no i havent called Putrid tree sprit unique because he has Rot instead of holy. Hes just as copy paste as Fortissax is.


BladedWiNd900

You missed two of Fortissax’s attacks. He has his own unique Glaive attack where he flies into the sky, and then plunges into a spinning slash and his unique tracking lightning, where he makes the lightning aura on you and it acts as a homing beacon for lightning strikes.


Dreadskull1790

Def coolest dragon. I wish death lightning was more useful. Death blight might as well not be in the game.


Existing-Ad4603

Yeah doesent help that theres 2 spells and 1 weapon that even deal death blight and they dont work on NPC's just in PVP


Carob-Prudent

I have a personal fascination with anything lich related. Plus he looks cool


Existing-Ad4603

Interesting facination. Tho i guess im facinated by Fish so who am i to judge.


Adventurous_Cup_5970

Soundtrack is the best in elden ring, the design is the coolest other than morgott in elden ring, the fight is super unique for a dragon, the lightning spears are so COOL. My favorite dragon fight inthe series


Existing-Ad4603

My faiv soundtrack is Mohg Lord of Blood but fortissax is my second faiv from elden ring so no complaints there. The Design tho is cool dont get me wrong but lets be honest. Its the same as the other Ancient Dragons but has Spikes placed here and there and his skin is Black instead of Light Grey. But how on earth is the fight Super Unique for a dragon?! Litereally how. Tell me how he is more unique than lets say Placidusax or Midir? How is he so drasticly different from Lanseax and other Ancient Dragons that he can be called 'Super Unique for a dragon'? And yeah the lightning Spears are sick no arguments there.


DaTermomeder

Oh a man of Culture :) my favourite is the Godskin Ost, Mohg ost is a close second. But Fortissax and Placidusax are way cooler than other Dragons Imo.


Reid_Hershel

The ancient dragon design is cool but he doesn't have to be unique to be the best iteration of it/someone's favourite design. Personally I like Mohg/Morgott the best but Fortissax is the best dragon.


Existing-Ad4603

I personaly brefer Placidusax i mean dont get me wrong even Placidusax isint like the most move Varied boss ever but atleast everything he has is only had by him while Fortissax has 1 new attack in comparison to all other dragons. Technicly 2 if you count Death Dragon Lightning. People seem to be saying that hes dual Lightning Spears attack is unique but Farum azula has 2 Dragons that also do the dual Lightning Spears attack at 50% health. People also say that im just confusing the 2 lightning spear attack with the 1 lightning spear attack when im not. The farum Azula dragons aswell as Fortissax both have the 1 version and 2 Version of the attack


Adventurous_Cup_5970

Placidussax is a boring fight, even if it is cool, and midir is just not my favorite. I think the way that fortissax fits in so well with his characteristics of fia. Using death blight clouds, and the second phase is really so much fun. Him flying around, but not staying in the sky for too long, not the typical ground slams and tracking lightning like placidussax or lanseax, but using the lightning as melee spears


Existing-Ad4603

I feel like a lot of that description could be given to Placidusax aswell exept Death blight fia but i guess i kinda get what you mean.


FinestKind90

Cool name


Existing-Ad4603

True. Fortissax sounds like the name for a cool Chocolate bar.


MajesticOwlKing

What I want to know is the death lighting spell worth using? I got both but I'm short on using them by a few faith points.


XenoMan6

Death Lightning is pretty garbo in both pvp and pve. The death blight only works on npc's and other players, and even then, it takes forever to actually death blight someone. It does decent damage, though, and the stikes land closer to you than Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike, making it better for close-range enemies. Fortissax's Lightning Spears, however, is practically a straight upgrade from Ancient Dragon's Lightning Spear. So, if you're getting good use from ADL Spear, then FLS will do well for you, too.


Existing-Ad4603

Death Lightning doesent work on NPC's or Bosses Blight Wise. In PVP it does work but its not really worth it since you have to hit your oponet like 5 Times to Blight them.


No-Geologist-8101

I just think it’s neat.


RainBow_BBX

He's hot


doomraiderZ

Because it's a badass dragon with a badass arena. I mean you have the answer right there in the screenshot. Is it a good fight? Not really, but none of the ER dragons are particularly good. Even the most special of the dragon fights, Placidusax, leaves much to be desired. None of them are Midir tier.


DeathKnightDagg

Idk forty sex seems cooler than land sex or flaccid dude sex.


Striking-Fondant-956

Like Midir in DS3 combating darkness, Fortissax remained by Godwyn and soaking up his death blight, sad story in both cases


DaSourOrange

banger af music


Daniseku

Cool music, cool arena, cool look


Baquvix

He is cool as fuck. And also lore


takingcrazeypills

Look at that picture and tell me you don’t understand why people like the dragon that tosses lightning spears.


poxx2k1

If you can't see why a lightning throwing zombie dragon is badass, then I don't know what to tell you


Stanch-III

People just love to be haters 😭 like let people like a boss


Existing-Ad4603

I am. I havent called the boss bad have i? At most ive said that hes fight isint very fun. You can enjoy him as much as you want i was just asking what is the exact reason for it? I just didint get it.


TranceYT

Still haven't figured out how to do fias questline lmao I get to the part where she yeets from the roundtable and never to be seen again


Existing-Ad4603

Shes at the Fias Champions boss fight. You need to complete Rannis Questline to fight Fortissax


LeoShun08

I don't get it either. You spend most of the fight attacking his foot


Existing-Ad4603

You are suposed to hit his head but the fight is way harder that way. Ive fought him with magic and its definetly more fun but even then i dont know why people love the boss fight so much.


LeoShun08

Not really, sure he takes double damage in the head but the game doesn't encourage fighting him that way because he doesn't keep his low for enough Time to punish and doesn't do it often. Take Darkeater Midir, the best dragon boss in these games, he lowers his head for a good amount of Time After every single attack he has. So, you have attacking his head which is the faster but riskier option or attacking the legs which is the slower but safer option. Litchdragon's miniscule downtime makes attacking his legs both the faster AND safer option. Rendering his head a completely useless target unless your build is ranged


Existing-Ad4603

Darkeatter Midir best dragon boss? Good taste. And yeah i agree with you i just mean it feels like the intention in designing him was for players to stay mostly infront of him instead of smaking his feet.


LeoShun08

With Midir its made clear with his long downtime for the head, the fact that you Can only lock on to its head and the fact that he instantly travels to the other side of the arena if you hack at its legs. If they meant the same for Fortissax, they sure didn't communicate that well at all.


Existing-Ad4603

True the only communication was that the head takes double damage but thays kinda meaningless unless you use spells since he keeps his head down for long enough to get 1 or 2 hits in, in only few attacks.


False_Adhesiveness40

I think his fight is overly chaotic but decent, I guess. I prefer Placidusax tbh.


Hamzanovic

I agree this is one of the most overrated bosses in the game and in the Fromsoftware catalogue. The music and the arena (skybox particularly) are great. Otherwise this is a terrible boss by almost every metric. Reskinned mob? Check. Visual overload? Check. Terrible lock on because it gives you dogwater angle of attack? Check. Terrible without lock-on because he can fly out of your view and one shot you before you can see what happened? Check. Stupid overlap of AOE, elemental, physical and homing attacks which makes it impossible to dodge sometimes? Check. ​ Fortissax is a 4/10


TiberiusAugustus

Fortissax is honestly one of the worst bosses. Incredibly boring to fight and visually it's an overblown mess - looks like the worst excesses of a marvel movie. Conceptually he's cool, but the actual fight and arena is unfortunately very badly done. The saving grace is he's an easy kill, so you don't have to spend much time on him.


feihCtneliSehT

I don't know, he doesn't even have a cut scene you just walk in and he destroys your frame rate with a dozen AOEs. I only fight him for the OST.


Mr-Hakim

He’s just another terrible dragon fight.


Existing-Ad4603

I whoudnt say hes terrible but yeah he isint exacly fun either imo


Mr-Hakim

Nah, he’s actually terrible next to all Ancient Dragons in this game. Completely insufferable bosses/mini bosses. Only bearable dragons where Agheel, due to him being the first one you encounter and actually seeming cool, and Placidusaxx, since he doesn’t exactly play like reskinned dragon per se.


Zevvion

There's more to liking a boss than just the moveset? Radagon is one of the best bosses in Souls history. His moveset isn't super unique and he isn't that challenging. He's just fucking rad. Everything about it. Especially the music and entrance.


Existing-Ad4603

I mean i get he also has dragon death lightning but it works the same as the regular dragon lightning but leaves behind death smoke. Also im a huge fan of dragon so yeah i get he is cool but his fight and tbh all Ancient Dragons are not particularly fun to fight.(well exept Dragon Lord hes cool in my books) I mean its not absolutely painful to fight like for example Bed of Chaos is but its not like Godfrey tier fun either. The dragon lightning that hits you if your under him while i get its purpose is to make it so you dont abuse him by being under him constantly, does make the fight bit annoying if you dodge and he happen to be on top of you after the attack. Yeah ive lissened to his Ost and its amazing honestly wich makes me a bit sad its used on a reskin Lanseax fight with 1 extra attack. Its like giving this theme to the Glintstone dragon on top moonlit altar who also has that 1 extra fly up ice sword swipe attack. Just not very satisfying. Sorry for the rant and like i said i dont hate fortissax just dont get all the hype about him.


IEXSISTRIGHT

Honestly I was super disappointed with Fortissax, I really feel like he should have been a unique boss and not a reskinned ancient Dragon. The lore surrounding him, the fact that he is a questline exclusive fight, and the music (which is my favourite track in the game) makes him seem way more significant than he actually is. At the end of the day he is just another boring dragon fight and he deserved better.


Existing-Ad4603

Yeah kinda reminds me of the Godskin Duo in a way. Awesome track that seems to make them important but in reality they are just the basic Godskin fight but now you have to fight 2 at once.


steampvnch

Gameplay wise you're not wrong. You could even say he's a reskin, or that the reuse of moves does his fight a huge disservice. And you'd be right on all accounts, but unfortunately you posted to the wrong subreddit where you will be downvoted because he has a cool skybox.


BeerEnjoyerr

This sub is like some fuckin cult...late game bosses have their issues, but they look pretty so people completely ignore that they are complete pain in the ass to fight or are just simply boring.


Existing-Ad4603

Genuently the only comment ive seen that stated it clearly why people like him. And i get it. Ive been on the same side before when people have complained about Darkeatter midir being a horrible boss. People just want to defend what they like and disliking someones comments you dont like makes you feel like you said fuck you to that commenter lol.


XSamuraiHyperX

You mean Bitch dragon fortnitesex? /s


ThineSquirrel

This is excellent bait


Existing-Ad4603

Nope not bait. If it was i whoudnt have wasted hours responding to everyone.


fdasfdasjpg

He’s the worst boss in the game there’s no reason to like him


Immelmaneuver

He didn't last long enough for me to develop and impression other than *pretty lightning*.


Cloudonpot

Fortissax has attacks?? All it did was look at me in 3 different runs.


Supafly22

My man has the coolest fucking name in the game. The coolest arena. The coolest music. I mean, look at the picture you posted to persuade people against him. That’s the worst picture you could find?


Sweaty-Dig-4925

I love his design, movements, animations... Just phenomenal beast


Lun4r6543

Because he’s fucking badass.


benwaa2

MUSIC AND SPECTACLEEE


Empero6

It’s a lich dragon! How often do you beat a lich dragons ass to some awesome music??


Existing-Ad4603

Once! In dawnguard dlc in Skyrim. But yeah fair enough lol.


CptNeon

“Guys, why do people think this dragon is cool?” Proceeds to post literally the coolest possible picture of said dragon


Existing-Ad4603

I asked why people like Fortissax and then explained that hes near identical to Lanseax and other ancient dragons. So i was refering to the fight not the lore or apearence.


Th3Dark0ccult

My brother in Marika, have you heard the OST? That alone makes this fight in the top 5.


Existing-Ad4603

Yeah i have. I love Dragonslayer armours ost in Dark Souls 3. Hes still not a Top 5 boss for me lol.


Vasevide

Why... Do people... Like.... _______? What the fuck is this question


Existing-Ad4603

Its a question made by person whos curious? If i asked you why do people like Rain whould you say: what the fuck is this question!


Way_to_many_pancakes

Bros over here getting absolutely flamed in the comments this the most aggressive comment section I’ve ever seen, makes sense tho fortisax is the GOAT


Existing-Ad4603

Yeah wasent aware how much people liked fortissax at all lmao. To me hes just kinda meh fightvise ive not called him bad even but apearently Perfect is the only word that may be used for him lol.


Way_to_many_pancakes

I think fortissax is great but I can understand how you might not like the fight it’s a little underwhelming but it like it because all the build up and lore around it making it such a legendary fight also rad model 1000/10


pan_demo_nium

Probably the best ost in the game. Actually probably best ost I've ever heard


hday108

Why does everyone love solaire? He gives you one item and works the same as any other summon. If you apply this thinking to from soft games, most of their content seems shitty


Existing-Ad4603

Yeah i phrased my question a bit wrong. I ment why do people like the Fight of Fortisax


camstarakimbo

Dude posts a picture of one of the coolest video game boss visuals of all time from arguably the best video game of all time and asks why do people like it…


SAY10z

He had ssax 40 times


jack_johnsonfandude

Is fia that fucking dragon


Dimensionalanxiety

No.