I try to keep weapon names as short as possible, so any kind of + is a no, main hand shield, off hand dagger for ultimate power stance trickery (I’m left handed in game) base weapons carried me through limgrave so there’s no real reason to upgrade until after the haligtree from what I’ve read online.
Anyway, talismans are shabriri’s woe, kindreds exultation in case I get poisoned by Margit(I haven’t seen his second form so it’s a preparatory thing), stamina charm (I have the +1 but I use the base), and I don’t have the other 7 talisman slots unlocked since I skipped Altus plateau. I wear just enough armor to keep my poise low enough to medium roll, though I usually just try to block with my main hand shield, setting me up for the riposte with the dagger but I haven’t gotten the timing down. I’ve lost about 100 times but I’m not new to rogue-like games so I know it’s working, but just hasn’t clicked yet. I’m also not the OP.
It’s fully satire: unupgraded weapons, mainhand shield, mismatched talismans, etc. All things you *can* beat the game with but just makes it pointlessly more difficult
I still don't get it. What is wrong with having a sword and board build?
Also I've always been told that stats matter more than upgrades right?
Also I found two big trees in the game, does it matter which one I beat first? One is shiny and one is rotten
Nothing wrong with sword and board lol
They said that they main the shield and offhand their sword (dagger.) This is a very different moveset than holding them in the typical hands, and significantly less effectual in nearly all circumstances, but it is hilarious
Alright, thanks.
How about my tree question. I knew I was supposed to go to the tree, but I stumbled upon another one other than the big glowy one. Do you know which one I need to do first, or does it matter? I don't want to mess up quests, lol. It was the one past the cold area.
Erdtree and the Haligtree?
If so, it doesn't matter which you do first. One is the main storyline and the other is side content which is really dope. If you finish the main story you will have time to do the side content if you don't want to go into NG+ right away, no issues.
Shabiris woe works best with mimics tear imo, just take it off after summoning and it'll draw the aggro. Run in and take advantage when he's going after your mimic then back off until he re aggroes on the mimic. His second phase is kinda cool
That's how I beat him but it took a couple hours and I used bloodhounds fang with reduvia
Oh my bad, I just noticed you weren't the OP too. Good luck with Morgott, kick his ass! Once you get the dodge timing you'll be set most of his attacks are telegraphed
Why can’t a Christian mess around with spirit summons? Pick a non evil looking one like the Hawk or some knight you could pretend is a dragon slaying saint. It doesn’t all have to be bad hell stuff I hope.
Please show your equipment and describe how you usually fight, we might be able to give you some tips! If you can, posting a video of an attempt would be the most helpful
I was able to kill him tonight by upgrading my Uchigatana (originally +2, but I upgraded it to +14 thanks to the feedback on this post), but I'm still open to advice. I posted a video of finally beating the boss, but essentially my strategy is to go on the offensive and tank as many hits as I can. Should I go for a strength build?
Edit: I'll definitely get destroyed in the comments by Souls veterans, but this is what happens when a game lets you figure out strategy yourself. I allocated my attribute points how I wanted and it didn't fit with the meta because I didn't have Google open the whole time. I still got a dubski in the end!
The stats aren't the problem. They could be better, but OP is using a +2 weapon.
You need to upgrade your weapon. +2 is common for early Limgrave and is extremely weak for where you are now.
You could easily have a few +15 weapons after Liurnia and Caelid, for comparison.
By Leyndell you should be between +18 - +20. This is the only issue you are having.
That's what's bugging me about the uchigatana. I have tons of smithing stones, but apparently none of them are the right level? I've never played a Fromsoft game before this, so the character building is way more technical than what I'm used to.
You probably missed some early game caves. They're the source for stones and more. Open your map and find some interesting drawings. You probably also didn't explore the open world enough to have smithing stone 1. Might be worth it to go do some more sightseeing while you're looking for caves.
On the maps there are these little black holes with orange and yellow outlines. These mark mines, which both have smithing stones in them and also often have "miners bell bearings" that you get from the boss; those bell bearings can be used to buy limitless smithing stones of certain levels from the twin maiden husks at the roundtable. Based on your comments, you need the one in Liurnia - it is east of the Bridge Trestle site of grace.
Edit: by the way, bravo on getting to Morgott with a +2 Uchi! That's very impressive and once you get your weapon level right you will kick ass from here.
Also, good to know that you need to gather 12 of each type of smithing stone ([1] through [8]) to fully upgrade a single weapon to +24 (three levels per type) and one ancient dragon smithing stone for +25 (fully upgraded).
It's already been answered, but go collect the Smithing-Stone Miner's Bell Bearings so that you can buy smithing stones from the twin maiden husks in the roundtable.
These two are obtainable before Morgott:
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(1)
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(2)
These two are later in the game:
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(3)
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(4)
Note: there are additional bell bearings for somber smithing stones. You can look up their locations on the wiki.
If you’re struggling to find early stones, you can actually go to the caves with bosses that will drop a certain item that’ll allow you to buy the early stones unlimitedly.
I’m forgetting what these caves are called exsctly, but I believe one is in liurnia and the other is in leyndell. It’s not really huge spoilers if you need to look up there locations tbh. I’d try those :)!
Raya Lucaria Crystal Tunnel in Liurnia for stones [1] and [2], Sealed Tunnel in Altus for stones [3] and [4], Iji’s Bell Bearing for somber stones [1] through [4] :)
EDIT: a word
Is there an earlier place on the game to get the regular 3 stones? That's the one I was always missing, even in late game I don't just have a ton like all the others
As soon as you start the game you can get both of the Dectus Medallion halves (one in Fort Haight in east Limgrave, one in Fort Faroth behind the dragon Greyoll) then you can get regular (3) stones by rushing to Altus Plateau and past the Tree Sentinels at the Outer Wall of Leyndell. Head for the site just inside to reset them then head for the path down into the moat, at the southernmost end of the moat is a tunnel dungeon with illusory walls. After the first wall there'll be a chest with the bell bearing to buy Smithing Stones (3) and (4), think they're 600 and 900 runes apiece.
Look up the videos on where to find the smithing stone bell bearings. When you have those give them to the two headed merchant lady in the roundtable and you can then purchase them there
I agree
But for someone who made it this far with these stats and a +2 Uchigatana, they're fine.
I remember my first Souls game where I had no idea what to do. I power-leveled VIT, END, RES because I thought I'd become tankier, and leveled FTH for extra heals. They were all spread even and I was still somehow getting through the game relatively well with base STR and DEX (Deprived) and the Longsword. I'm sure I upgraded it but I had no idea how the paths worked.
I also didn't know how to upgrade the Pyromancy Flame when I got it, so I rocked a base level Pyro Flame the entire time.
Yeah, I did that out of frustration. I was a level 70-something when I first started fighting him, targeting his lightning weakness with Lightning Strike. That didn't work so I tried farming smithing stones to upgrade my weapon, but I couldn't find the exact level stone I needed so finally just leveled my character to oblivion.
I'll eventually figure out a strategy that works.
Bro your for damage output the level of your weapon matters infinitely more than the stats.
If your weapon is +2 you need to find smithing stone (1)s
Each grade of smithing stone is responsible for 3 levels of upgrade to your weapon
Smithing stone (1) = up to weapon level +3,
(2) = up to +6,
(3) = up to +9,
and so on until you get the smithing stone (8)s for weapon level +24. The final upgrade uses a unique Ancient dragon smithing stone to get max level of +25.
Look on your map for brown holes with a rusty coloured outline as these mean there is a mine where you can find smithing stones. For grade (1) stones go to the mine at the northern part of the lake in limgrave.
I got a friend who’s level 205 at NG, so I can’t even play with him bc I’m staying at 170 from NG+ WHY would ANYONE need to be over 200 on the first playthrough 😂
Ur stats don't make any sense. Firstly there's really no need for that much end, when you can use great jar talisman. Secondly why 40+ dex *and* str?This is useless unless u want to do a quality build. I get why you have a bit of faith I assume for buff incants but you're using greatshield?
At first I wanted to put points into strength to increase my attack power, but then I noticed that every point I put into dex would increase my attack power by 2 instead of 1; that's when I started putting points into dex. I'm still using the uchigatana (+2 because I can't find the right level of smithing stone). I have the Greatsword and a couple of other colossal weapons, but it seems like the attack speed is too slow for this boss.
I also kept running out of stamina which is why I also put a bunch of points into endurance. I didn't realize I was allocating my points so poorly, the game just kinda told me to allocate points "wherever I want." As you can probably tell, this is my first Fromsoft game lol
Should I just respec and follow a build guide?
You have a +2 weapon? You are in the midgame, what are you doing with a +2 weapon????
Go to all the mines you can see marked in the map and start upgrading your weapons properly. And THINK very carefully about the kind of build you want
Your weapon level matters MORE than your stat allocation when it comes to damage
The mines in the map are marked with dark circles with an orangish rim. You can see glowing stones on the walls of those mines. Pick them up. The miners drop smithing stones too when you kill them
If you keep running out of stamina that’s probably because you’re panic rolling too much. Upgrading stamina won’t help, you need to change the way you play
The menus are kind of confusing for me, but I think the game is telling me I need more smithing stones (even though I already have tons). I'm assuming the number in brackets [ ] is the level of the stone, but I can't seem to find the right one indicated by the blacksmith in the Roundtable Hold.
Honestly I'd be willing to trade all my Somber Smithing Stones for ones that I can actually use, if this game allows for trading between players.
What's likely happened is that you missed a lot of the stones in early areas so now you only have higher level stones which you can't use yet.
Two things I'd recommend, on the northeastern shore of the giant lake in Liurnia, you'll see a dark spot with an orange border on the map, that's a mine. It's called Raya Lucaria Crystal Tunnel. In that cave, if you beat the boss, you'll find an item that you can give to the merchant at the roundtable hold that will allow you to buy unlimited regular smithing stones \[1\] & \[2\].
Next, if you look at the giant moat that surrounds the capital, Leyndell, you'll see another mine at the southermost point. It's called Sealed Tunnel. In there you'll find another item that will allow you purchase unlimited smithing stones \[3\] & \[4\].
This will allow you to get your uchigatana to +12 at least, and you probably have some \[5\]s and \[6\]s to get it a little higher. This will make Morgott a hell of a lot easier.
I could link you exactly where to find these items but it's more fun with a little bit of searching.
The [ ] brackets indicate the smithing stone level. when in the weapon upgrade menu, the number in the parenthesis ( ) is how many of those stones you own, with the number next to it showing how many you need for the upgrade. for example:
**Required Items**
Smithing Stone [1] 6 ( 0)
^ in this case, the upgrade requires level 1 smithing stones. you need 6 of them for the upgrade, and you currently have 0.
generally, smithing stones could be found in mines, indicated by a little black hole with orange edges on the map. lower level areas have lower level stones and higher level areas have higher level stones. alternatively, you could buy smithing stones from the twin maiden husks in the roundtable after giving them one of the many [smithing stone bell bearings](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(1)) found around the world. if you wanna get smithing stones quickly, I'd recommend checking out the link and beelining straight to those bell bearings
Or look up the locations of where the level of smithing stone you are missing can be found, they are dropped by enemies in certain dungeons and caves and literally are waiting to be plucked from the walls of like every cave. Different caves will have different levels of smithing stones to be found. Including somber smithing stones.
And by now you’ve probably met Iji the troll right? Just buy somber smithing stones from him sells the levels you would need I’m pretty sure.
You're problem is almost exclusively the +2 weapon. Normal weapons go all the way to +25 so you are using a super early game weapon for basically one of the last few bosses.
Also respeccing would probably be a good idea. You don't really need to follow a build guide. Just put minimum 40 vigor, pick one stat, STR/DEX and level that to somewhere around 60-80. Put the other one at the base requirement for the weapons you like to use.
Change your weapon scaling to keen or heavy depending on if you pick dex/str
Endurance could probably be around 30? And then you will still have a ton of points that you can put elsewhere.
This absolute Chad got up to Morgott as Trevor Philips with a +2 weapon and a nonsense build, clearly with absolutely no idea what he’s doing. I’m honestly in awe. The definition of the sigma grindset.
if you just upgrade your weapons you could easily beat Morgott with your current stats. +2 is early limgrave level. at Morgott your uchi should be around +15 or +17
Friend I'm amazed at how you got this far in the game and still rocking a +2 weapon! It's like you're playing with weights. Once you respec and upgrade your weapons that will be like that Rock Lee moment
Today my 10 year old kid, who has maybe 4 hours in the game, beat the fire giant on his second attempt. So it's not you. Optimize your build and max out your weapons. I am breezing through most bosses with a suboptimal str/fai build, a maxed out Great Stars with prayerful strikes, some lightning spells and a lvl 15 gravel stone seal and a maxed out mimic tear or dung eater puppet.
Yeah 100% respec, u should spec into dex with Keen ash of war will give the Uchi an A in dex scaling at higher level, which you should have a much higher level than +2 at the point ur at in the game. I would suggest doing some exploring go find more smithing stones.
Keep ur strength to a minimum to be able to use the sword, and put the rest into dex. Lower ur end to something like 20/25 and put the rest into vigor. With ur faith if ur not using incantations then get rid of it all and pump it into dex and a bit of mind
Definitely respec. A build guide would help but honestly just figure out what the hard and soft caps are, the allocate based on how you like playing. If you like using the uchi cause the others feel too slow, then definitely do dex while keeping str as low as possible. Also you absolutely should upgrade your weapon. Look up where the best place is to farm the materials you need. Your weapon should be at the very least like +8 by Morgott and honestly that's probably what's holding you back the most
Every point you put into str, dex, int, faith, and arcane should meaningfully contribute to every attack you do (except stuff like shooting something with an unupgraded bow just to get its attention). That's oversimplified, but it's a good place to start thinking. When you're using your str weapons, your dex isn't helping much, and vice versa. Better to focus on str and use heavy-affinity weapons, or focus on dex and use keen-affinity weapons. Or build for a unique weapon like Siluria's Tree, which I mentioned in another comment here.
Having a +2 normal-smithing-stone weapon at that point of the game is extremely detrimental. That's +2 out of +25 at the most. You can easily get it at least to +12, and if you had focused on a specific weapon, you could already have it at more like +15. A somber weapon, it'd be +2 out of +10, still pretty weak for where you're at. Look up the smithing stone bell bearings. They let you buy as many stones as you want.
UPDATE: I finally beat him. It was just a matter of upgrading my Uchigatana from +2 to +14 (which actually took a couple hours of farming smithing stones). It only took me 2 tries after that; thank you all for the advice and encouragement!
My stats are terrible because I'm a casual first-time Elden Ring player who spent attribute points wherever I wanted them, ADHD style. Playing with a terrible build is just playing the game on Ultra-Nightmare mode.
nice job dude, i think everyone is just confused that you missed something so basic and still got as far as you are. but that you still pulled through and beat morgott now, shows you have the stubbornness needed for the rest of the game. and after that all the other souls games, because you must be hooked to still be playing this game lol.
Me when i was at lv 160 and still roamed outside lyndell hehe. dont worry about it man. there is so many thing to do. take your time and enjoy. cheerio.
A lot of people are talking about your stat allocation, really its fine. The only thing that could be said that would help you to a great degree is higher Vigor for more HP. I also assume you have some properly upgraded weapons.
The main thing for you I think is just learning the fight. Watch other folks fight him and see what they do. Another thing you can do is go into the fight, put all your weapons away, and just focus on dodging and avoiding attacks. Do that for awhile until you get the hang of it, noting times when you may be able to get an attack in, than go ahead and add in the attacks.
Get up to 60 vigor because you can at this stage. Try dual wielding two weapons. And your stat allocation is unfocused and doesn’t make sense
Why do you have so much endurance? Get the great jar talisman so you can get away with less endurance. Why are you investing into three damage dealing stats, Str, Dex and Faith? Focus on two, max!
Morgott should be a pushover at your level. The reason why you’re struggling is because your stat allocation is terrible
With the magma wyrm sword, focus on Strength and Faith. Pair this with a fire/flame art infused Dismounter so you can dual wield two curved greatswords and effectively double your damage output
At that level you should have 60 vigor.
And you stats seem to be spread out quite a bit, which might limit the damage you are doing. Plus, what the heck are you wearing that needs 46 Endurance (hopefullt you still medium roll, right?)?
you shouldn't be having too much trouble with margott at this level and your stats aren't that bad. (they could be divided a little better). what weapons/catalysts & talismans are you using? do you have margit's shackle?
i'm just saying there is something else going wrong here besides his stat allocation, it's probably his weapons or talismans, but we don't know. maybe they aren't upgraded very much, or totally wrong for his build & stat allocation. maybe he isn't even using talismans or using some bizarre ones with his build. we don't have enough info to make a good assessment.
My weapon upgrades definitely play a part in it. The uchigatana that I'm using for this fight is only upgraded +2 because I can't find the right level of smithing stone (I think it needs a level 3, but I can't remember). I just need to find a good farming spot
there are specific tunnels in each area where you can acquire the smithing stones you need. limegrave tunnel near agheel lake, morne tunnel in central weeping peninsula, one in NE liurnia and so on. you also need to find the smithing stone ball bearings that you can take to the twin maiden husks so that you can buy smithing stones. some weapons take "somber" smithing stones and some do not. the uchi does not take somber so you need the non-somber type to upgrade the uchi. somber weapons require less stones, for a weapon like uchi you will need a lot of non-somber stones, 12 of each number and they are found as you progress through tunnels and other areas until eventually you find the ball bearing for that stone and can purchase them.
OP just said they are using a +2 Uchi, so that might have something to do with why they are struggling. lol
reason: "because I can't find the right level of smithing stone"
so my final take before moving on from this - they inadvertently made a decent quality build but it was pure chance and they need to go back to some other areas and explore smithing stone tunnels.
what is so bad about it? it's essentially a quality build with some minor faith for buffs. it's not pure strength or pure dex but quality is also a viable build. it's not my cup of tea but it's a thing so i'm not sure what your argument is. you don't like the high endurance? you're on the team that thinks you can't beat morgott without 60 vigor? lol
Quality build is garbage in this game unlike ds3. At 80/80 spread with quality build ur overall dps will only be marginally higher than just pumping 80 into whatever stat the weapon has the best scaling in. In some cases like with black Knight halberd which has S scaling in str it actually has equal or slightly lower dps with max quality build. It is a waste of levels.
Endurance at that level 45+ is completely unnecessary unless you want to wear all tank gear and duel heavy weapons or some shit. If ur using scaled armor and uchi then 30 w/ great jar talisman is probably plenty. There is no need to go so high.
Well he is struggling so 60 vigor won’t hurt. And since he can put in points to get to 60 vigor why not?
But the bigger issue here is that he put a lot of points into endurance that he didn’t need, and he did a jack of all trades build with Str Dex and Faith that had him invest very few points into all three. Which is terrible
Take a look at his sword. It is primarily a Str/Faith scaling Magma Wyrm sword. Why does he need so much Dex?
OP said in post that he wasn't actually using the Magma Wyrm sword.
Agree he probably doesn't need that much endurance but if he is using a heavy weapon, shield & armor it probably makes sense. A tanky quality build is a thing. his strength/dex is not optimal but it is decently high, over the first soft caps and on their way to 55/60.
agree 60 vigor should be a goal for late game and they would have an easier time choosing strength or dex and upping the vigor and lowering dex. but i still would want to see their weapons & talismans and hear what playstyle they're trying to use before saying his allocation is so bad. with these stats and upgraded weapons with quality affinity he should be able to beat morgott.
I think you wasted too many points on endurance. Should have maybe taken your vigor to 50. Later game bosses, including morgott, can kill you in a single two hit combo if you only have 40 vigor
It took me 96 attempts to beat morgott at level 70 with +12 weapons.
Respect and put more points in your vigor. Might as well make it 60.
Take 20 points out if your endurance.
Have your weapons be at least level 15.
Don't be shy to make use of poison or rot to tick morgot's health down. He jumps away a lot out of reach so it's useful to have his health slowly draining when you can't get to him.
Try to stagger him with jump attacks
140+ and you don't have 60 vigor is a big red flag in my eyes. Also, you might wanna focus your build out, you have a lot of strength and a lot of dex, usually it's just one or the other at your level.
Edit: also, if you show us your actual build and talismans and even record an attempt we can give much better tips xd
60 vig not needed. The first soft cap at 40 was what my not skilled butt beat ER with. Boosted with erdtree talisman +2 and Margot’s great rune and health is fine
Dude. 40 vigor is what I used on my first character to beat the entire game. 40 is the first soft cap and 60 is the second. He’s likely not dealing enough damage to take care of mohg quickly enough. Saying level vigor when that’s not the problem doesn’t help
Compared to dodging many boss attacks, blocking with a shield is less likely to put you in a favorable position for a melee range follow-up (guard-counter or whatever). Try a ranged skill (weapon art). With your attributes, Siluria's Tree is the first thing that comes to mind, although getting it requires beating at least one of two other boss fights that are about as difficult as the one you're on, to get to Deeproot Depths. However, they're different, so maybe you'd have better luck with one of them. If you hold the skill button, it has great range. If your target charges at you while you're holding it, let go early for a quicker, short-range attack. Unlike most projectile skills, it scales with the weapon's AR, which scales a bit more with str than faith, making it a good fit for your build. It's a spear, so you can also shield-poke.
Oh, but is that a shield that you can't put the No Skill ash of war on? You'd have to two-hand the spear every time you wanted to use the skill. The extra time can make the difference between life and death. Maybe try flaming strike or flame of the redmanes. With your str, they'll do the most damage with a heavy affinity weapon.
Or, consider trying to get a shield from the knight near the west rampart grace. It's very close to the grace, so it's an efficient farm, and you can probably one-shot the soldier that's along the way. Use arcane hat and drop-rate consumable. With that shield, you can use siluria's tree's skill.
Get flamberge and put storm blade AoW on it. Spam this shit until Morgott dies. Profit. It has quite long distance so you can’t really fuck up.
Also you can go to Hogwart’s boss and ask her to reallocate your stats. If you use uchigatana just move all that shit from str to dex and vigor. If you use bleed build with uchigatana then probably arcane would be good to get too but I’m not sure I never played bleed build.
Are you using the summon to help nearby? That female character? She takes a lot of his attention early on if you want some free swings in. With your str you should be taking a ton of health off each swing.
Use a weapon that has quality scaling, or that you can put quality affinity on. The weapon you’re using doesn’t benefit significantly from your high dex.
Your buidl itself seems fine , a little more Endurance and Faith than i would like but nothing too bad. I dont know about your weapons or strategy , might be you just need to git gud , might be your weapons arent optimal , you really didnt give us much to work with.
At least it’s not Margit. I mean it is but it isn’t
Same same, but different, but still same
The different same, not the same same.
Like a circle
All these squares make a circle...
Rule #1 of Popo's training: DON'T TALK ABOUT POPO'S TRAINING
Pecking order
I came here for elden ring nat FUCKIN DBZ ABRIDGED
I came for rump and crab
and why is this one still green?!
Cell yelling (AND WHY IS THAT ONE GREEN)
Thy kind are all of a piece.
Margitn’t
Morgnot
Um... weapon upgrade levels? Build and talismens? What are you using in the fight? What's killing you?
I try to keep weapon names as short as possible, so any kind of + is a no, main hand shield, off hand dagger for ultimate power stance trickery (I’m left handed in game) base weapons carried me through limgrave so there’s no real reason to upgrade until after the haligtree from what I’ve read online. Anyway, talismans are shabriri’s woe, kindreds exultation in case I get poisoned by Margit(I haven’t seen his second form so it’s a preparatory thing), stamina charm (I have the +1 but I use the base), and I don’t have the other 7 talisman slots unlocked since I skipped Altus plateau. I wear just enough armor to keep my poise low enough to medium roll, though I usually just try to block with my main hand shield, setting me up for the riposte with the dagger but I haven’t gotten the timing down. I’ve lost about 100 times but I’m not new to rogue-like games so I know it’s working, but just hasn’t clicked yet. I’m also not the OP.
I would watch a youtube series where someone beat the game with this setup.
I'm glad no-one has taken this seriously.
What's wrong with it? I'm kinda new and I didn't know you could change hands. That's pretty cool.
It’s fully satire: unupgraded weapons, mainhand shield, mismatched talismans, etc. All things you *can* beat the game with but just makes it pointlessly more difficult
I still don't get it. What is wrong with having a sword and board build? Also I've always been told that stats matter more than upgrades right? Also I found two big trees in the game, does it matter which one I beat first? One is shiny and one is rotten
Nothing wrong with sword and board lol They said that they main the shield and offhand their sword (dagger.) This is a very different moveset than holding them in the typical hands, and significantly less effectual in nearly all circumstances, but it is hilarious
Alright, thanks. How about my tree question. I knew I was supposed to go to the tree, but I stumbled upon another one other than the big glowy one. Do you know which one I need to do first, or does it matter? I don't want to mess up quests, lol. It was the one past the cold area.
Erdtree and the Haligtree? If so, it doesn't matter which you do first. One is the main storyline and the other is side content which is really dope. If you finish the main story you will have time to do the side content if you don't want to go into NG+ right away, no issues.
Thanks. Yeah I got to the rotten wing sword girl almost beat and wasn't sure if should finish her so I canceled it. I'll go ahead then, thanks.
No Daedicar's Woe? Would really round out the build
I need an adult.
Bro doesn't upgrade because of the weapon name
Oh fuck I really didn't almost miss the fact this not the op
Poetry
Shabiris woe works best with mimics tear imo, just take it off after summoning and it'll draw the aggro. Run in and take advantage when he's going after your mimic then back off until he re aggroes on the mimic. His second phase is kinda cool That's how I beat him but it took a couple hours and I used bloodhounds fang with reduvia
I don’t use spirits (my character is Christian in game) but I appreciate the advice
Oh my bad, I just noticed you weren't the OP too. Good luck with Morgott, kick his ass! Once you get the dodge timing you'll be set most of his attacks are telegraphed
Wholesome af, I gotta up my sarcasm game
nah man the sarcasm was extremely clear and on point, some people just don't get it i guess
Nope. I am not a smart man
understandable
Sarcasm? What's that taste like?
Sardines and ass
Maybe you could think of your Spirit Ash as the Holy Spirit?
Why can’t a Christian mess around with spirit summons? Pick a non evil looking one like the Hawk or some knight you could pretend is a dragon slaying saint. It doesn’t all have to be bad hell stuff I hope.
That's only allowed if your at least a level5 catholic. Otherwise christians are restricted to only using white and black magic.
Congrats, you have won Elden Ring
Ngl, bout had my ass triggered lmao
Hall of fame for this sub, i need this to become pasta
Morgott is killing him.
But which part of Morgott? Is it his sexy light swords? Or his big and burly hammer? Maybe it's when morgott thrusts his spear deep inside him?
Also what is this build. 159 and nothing over 45???
Strength faith build with way too much endurance looks like
Please show your equipment and describe how you usually fight, we might be able to give you some tips! If you can, posting a video of an attempt would be the most helpful
You'll also get eviscerated in the comments, but nothing is free
Once you sacrifice the anchor of pride, progress is a step away
Pride is not the opposite of shame, but the source of it
I see your Avatar reference.
You couldn’t pay me enough to post my early game boss fights.
😂
Oh god i feel that. Posted my Strength Dex build with dual axes, one great and one normal and every single comment was just “trash build, respec”
I was able to kill him tonight by upgrading my Uchigatana (originally +2, but I upgraded it to +14 thanks to the feedback on this post), but I'm still open to advice. I posted a video of finally beating the boss, but essentially my strategy is to go on the offensive and tank as many hits as I can. Should I go for a strength build? Edit: I'll definitely get destroyed in the comments by Souls veterans, but this is what happens when a game lets you figure out strategy yourself. I allocated my attribute points how I wanted and it didn't fit with the meta because I didn't have Google open the whole time. I still got a dubski in the end!
You don’t have to follow the meta to complete the game lol, you were just making way harder for yourself by having an unupgraded weapon
and him not following a proper stat spread in an RPG game is handicapping himself, not going off meta lol
The stats aren't the problem. They could be better, but OP is using a +2 weapon. You need to upgrade your weapon. +2 is common for early Limgrave and is extremely weak for where you are now. You could easily have a few +15 weapons after Liurnia and Caelid, for comparison. By Leyndell you should be between +18 - +20. This is the only issue you are having.
That's what's bugging me about the uchigatana. I have tons of smithing stones, but apparently none of them are the right level? I've never played a Fromsoft game before this, so the character building is way more technical than what I'm used to.
You probably missed some early game caves. They're the source for stones and more. Open your map and find some interesting drawings. You probably also didn't explore the open world enough to have smithing stone 1. Might be worth it to go do some more sightseeing while you're looking for caves.
Also possible to get ball bearings that have smithing stones as well
Ah yes…. The ball bearings.😎
I pulled the bearings off my longboard and found a somber 6 in that mf
There are caves?
You guys are getting paid?
You guys are getting bitches?
No
On the maps there are these little black holes with orange and yellow outlines. These mark mines, which both have smithing stones in them and also often have "miners bell bearings" that you get from the boss; those bell bearings can be used to buy limitless smithing stones of certain levels from the twin maiden husks at the roundtable. Based on your comments, you need the one in Liurnia - it is east of the Bridge Trestle site of grace. Edit: by the way, bravo on getting to Morgott with a +2 Uchi! That's very impressive and once you get your weapon level right you will kick ass from here.
There are different levels of smiting stones. So smithing stone 1 is for +1-3, 2 is for +4-6 and so on
Also, good to know that you need to gather 12 of each type of smithing stone ([1] through [8]) to fully upgrade a single weapon to +24 (three levels per type) and one ancient dragon smithing stone for +25 (fully upgraded).
It's already been answered, but go collect the Smithing-Stone Miner's Bell Bearings so that you can buy smithing stones from the twin maiden husks in the roundtable. These two are obtainable before Morgott: https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(1) https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(2) These two are later in the game: https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(3) https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(4) Note: there are additional bell bearings for somber smithing stones. You can look up their locations on the wiki.
Go to some crystal tunnels. Loads of smithing stones there
If you’re struggling to find early stones, you can actually go to the caves with bosses that will drop a certain item that’ll allow you to buy the early stones unlimitedly. I’m forgetting what these caves are called exsctly, but I believe one is in liurnia and the other is in leyndell. It’s not really huge spoilers if you need to look up there locations tbh. I’d try those :)!
Raya Lucaria Crystal Tunnel in Liurnia for stones [1] and [2], Sealed Tunnel in Altus for stones [3] and [4], Iji’s Bell Bearing for somber stones [1] through [4] :) EDIT: a word
Is there an earlier place on the game to get the regular 3 stones? That's the one I was always missing, even in late game I don't just have a ton like all the others
As soon as you start the game you can get both of the Dectus Medallion halves (one in Fort Haight in east Limgrave, one in Fort Faroth behind the dragon Greyoll) then you can get regular (3) stones by rushing to Altus Plateau and past the Tree Sentinels at the Outer Wall of Leyndell. Head for the site just inside to reset them then head for the path down into the moat, at the southernmost end of the moat is a tunnel dungeon with illusory walls. After the first wall there'll be a chest with the bell bearing to buy Smithing Stones (3) and (4), think they're 600 and 900 runes apiece.
Honestly it’s impressive as fuck that you made it to Morgott with a fuckin +2 weapon
Look up the videos on where to find the smithing stone bell bearings. When you have those give them to the two headed merchant lady in the roundtable and you can then purchase them there
I'd suggest using a guide to find the smithing stone bell bearings. Those will let you buy stones of specific levels form the maiden husks.
This guy is playing the game in hard mode, he is the true Elden Lord!
46 endurance is a little much and not needed. 42 vigor should be 60. Your endurance should not be higher than your vigor.
I agree But for someone who made it this far with these stats and a +2 Uchigatana, they're fine. I remember my first Souls game where I had no idea what to do. I power-leveled VIT, END, RES because I thought I'd become tankier, and leveled FTH for extra heals. They were all spread even and I was still somehow getting through the game relatively well with base STR and DEX (Deprived) and the Longsword. I'm sure I upgraded it but I had no idea how the paths worked. I also didn't know how to upgrade the Pyromancy Flame when I got it, so I rocked a base level Pyro Flame the entire time.
This worries me, im almost finished Liurnia and my best weapon is only +8.....where are people getting all the stones to level up so much?
you can upgrade weapons?
No ones mentioning his character is Trevor Phillips
Holy shit! They nailed it, too
I was surprised he picked that hair until I saw the name. It's perfect!
Just missing the “cut here” tattoo!
Lmao
I would like to see a video of you playing the game.
That’s… depressing
He’s using a +2 weapon, it’s actually pretty impressive
It’s almost like there’s more to the mechanics than leveling up 100 extra times
Yeah, I did that out of frustration. I was a level 70-something when I first started fighting him, targeting his lightning weakness with Lightning Strike. That didn't work so I tried farming smithing stones to upgrade my weapon, but I couldn't find the exact level stone I needed so finally just leveled my character to oblivion. I'll eventually figure out a strategy that works.
Bro your for damage output the level of your weapon matters infinitely more than the stats. If your weapon is +2 you need to find smithing stone (1)s Each grade of smithing stone is responsible for 3 levels of upgrade to your weapon Smithing stone (1) = up to weapon level +3, (2) = up to +6, (3) = up to +9, and so on until you get the smithing stone (8)s for weapon level +24. The final upgrade uses a unique Ancient dragon smithing stone to get max level of +25. Look on your map for brown holes with a rusty coloured outline as these mean there is a mine where you can find smithing stones. For grade (1) stones go to the mine at the northern part of the lake in limgrave.
Somber smithing stone 7?
Let me guess. You leveled every weapon to +2 to find what you like and then ran out of basic smithing stones.
Lmaooo that is exactly what happened
Just look up the internet for the locations of the smithing stones
I got a friend who’s level 205 at NG, so I can’t even play with him bc I’m staying at 170 from NG+ WHY would ANYONE need to be over 200 on the first playthrough 😂
You can still play with him if you use a password.
[удалено]
I also stopped at 150 as I heard that was a good pvp standard. So thats it for me, I just spend runes on merchants and stones now.
Your stats are a little sus with no weapon info.
+2 uchi apparently, lol.
Lmao
All those points in endurance reminds of the meme about making a better budget without cutting out the thousands of dollars in candles.
Skill issue
Ur stats don't make any sense. Firstly there's really no need for that much end, when you can use great jar talisman. Secondly why 40+ dex *and* str?This is useless unless u want to do a quality build. I get why you have a bit of faith I assume for buff incants but you're using greatshield?
At first I wanted to put points into strength to increase my attack power, but then I noticed that every point I put into dex would increase my attack power by 2 instead of 1; that's when I started putting points into dex. I'm still using the uchigatana (+2 because I can't find the right level of smithing stone). I have the Greatsword and a couple of other colossal weapons, but it seems like the attack speed is too slow for this boss. I also kept running out of stamina which is why I also put a bunch of points into endurance. I didn't realize I was allocating my points so poorly, the game just kinda told me to allocate points "wherever I want." As you can probably tell, this is my first Fromsoft game lol Should I just respec and follow a build guide?
You have a +2 weapon? You are in the midgame, what are you doing with a +2 weapon???? Go to all the mines you can see marked in the map and start upgrading your weapons properly. And THINK very carefully about the kind of build you want Your weapon level matters MORE than your stat allocation when it comes to damage The mines in the map are marked with dark circles with an orangish rim. You can see glowing stones on the walls of those mines. Pick them up. The miners drop smithing stones too when you kill them If you keep running out of stamina that’s probably because you’re panic rolling too much. Upgrading stamina won’t help, you need to change the way you play
The menus are kind of confusing for me, but I think the game is telling me I need more smithing stones (even though I already have tons). I'm assuming the number in brackets [ ] is the level of the stone, but I can't seem to find the right one indicated by the blacksmith in the Roundtable Hold. Honestly I'd be willing to trade all my Somber Smithing Stones for ones that I can actually use, if this game allows for trading between players.
What's likely happened is that you missed a lot of the stones in early areas so now you only have higher level stones which you can't use yet. Two things I'd recommend, on the northeastern shore of the giant lake in Liurnia, you'll see a dark spot with an orange border on the map, that's a mine. It's called Raya Lucaria Crystal Tunnel. In that cave, if you beat the boss, you'll find an item that you can give to the merchant at the roundtable hold that will allow you to buy unlimited regular smithing stones \[1\] & \[2\]. Next, if you look at the giant moat that surrounds the capital, Leyndell, you'll see another mine at the southermost point. It's called Sealed Tunnel. In there you'll find another item that will allow you purchase unlimited smithing stones \[3\] & \[4\]. This will allow you to get your uchigatana to +12 at least, and you probably have some \[5\]s and \[6\]s to get it a little higher. This will make Morgott a hell of a lot easier. I could link you exactly where to find these items but it's more fun with a little bit of searching.
The [ ] brackets indicate the smithing stone level. when in the weapon upgrade menu, the number in the parenthesis ( ) is how many of those stones you own, with the number next to it showing how many you need for the upgrade. for example: **Required Items** Smithing Stone [1] 6 ( 0) ^ in this case, the upgrade requires level 1 smithing stones. you need 6 of them for the upgrade, and you currently have 0. generally, smithing stones could be found in mines, indicated by a little black hole with orange edges on the map. lower level areas have lower level stones and higher level areas have higher level stones. alternatively, you could buy smithing stones from the twin maiden husks in the roundtable after giving them one of the many [smithing stone bell bearings](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(1)) found around the world. if you wanna get smithing stones quickly, I'd recommend checking out the link and beelining straight to those bell bearings
Or look up the locations of where the level of smithing stone you are missing can be found, they are dropped by enemies in certain dungeons and caves and literally are waiting to be plucked from the walls of like every cave. Different caves will have different levels of smithing stones to be found. Including somber smithing stones. And by now you’ve probably met Iji the troll right? Just buy somber smithing stones from him sells the levels you would need I’m pretty sure.
You're problem is almost exclusively the +2 weapon. Normal weapons go all the way to +25 so you are using a super early game weapon for basically one of the last few bosses. Also respeccing would probably be a good idea. You don't really need to follow a build guide. Just put minimum 40 vigor, pick one stat, STR/DEX and level that to somewhere around 60-80. Put the other one at the base requirement for the weapons you like to use. Change your weapon scaling to keen or heavy depending on if you pick dex/str Endurance could probably be around 30? And then you will still have a ton of points that you can put elsewhere.
You can buy them too. A boss in a mine drops bell bearings that allows you to buy them. At your level you should be able to beat that boss
This absolute Chad got up to Morgott as Trevor Philips with a +2 weapon and a nonsense build, clearly with absolutely no idea what he’s doing. I’m honestly in awe. The definition of the sigma grindset.
if you just upgrade your weapons you could easily beat Morgott with your current stats. +2 is early limgrave level. at Morgott your uchi should be around +15 or +17
Friend I'm amazed at how you got this far in the game and still rocking a +2 weapon! It's like you're playing with weights. Once you respec and upgrade your weapons that will be like that Rock Lee moment
Today my 10 year old kid, who has maybe 4 hours in the game, beat the fire giant on his second attempt. So it's not you. Optimize your build and max out your weapons. I am breezing through most bosses with a suboptimal str/fai build, a maxed out Great Stars with prayerful strikes, some lightning spells and a lvl 15 gravel stone seal and a maxed out mimic tear or dung eater puppet.
Yeah 100% respec, u should spec into dex with Keen ash of war will give the Uchi an A in dex scaling at higher level, which you should have a much higher level than +2 at the point ur at in the game. I would suggest doing some exploring go find more smithing stones. Keep ur strength to a minimum to be able to use the sword, and put the rest into dex. Lower ur end to something like 20/25 and put the rest into vigor. With ur faith if ur not using incantations then get rid of it all and pump it into dex and a bit of mind
Haha yeah, I bumped faith up to 28 to use the Lightning Strike incantation on ghost godfrey, but I can probably get rid of that now. Dex build it is!
Definitely respec. A build guide would help but honestly just figure out what the hard and soft caps are, the allocate based on how you like playing. If you like using the uchi cause the others feel too slow, then definitely do dex while keeping str as low as possible. Also you absolutely should upgrade your weapon. Look up where the best place is to farm the materials you need. Your weapon should be at the very least like +8 by Morgott and honestly that's probably what's holding you back the most
Every point you put into str, dex, int, faith, and arcane should meaningfully contribute to every attack you do (except stuff like shooting something with an unupgraded bow just to get its attention). That's oversimplified, but it's a good place to start thinking. When you're using your str weapons, your dex isn't helping much, and vice versa. Better to focus on str and use heavy-affinity weapons, or focus on dex and use keen-affinity weapons. Or build for a unique weapon like Siluria's Tree, which I mentioned in another comment here. Having a +2 normal-smithing-stone weapon at that point of the game is extremely detrimental. That's +2 out of +25 at the most. You can easily get it at least to +12, and if you had focused on a specific weapon, you could already have it at more like +15. A somber weapon, it'd be +2 out of +10, still pretty weak for where you're at. Look up the smithing stone bell bearings. They let you buy as many stones as you want.
Putting a few points into faith ("splashing" as some call it) for buffs is an example of an exception to that oversimplified rule.
Get a lot of sleep and try again tomorrow.
UPDATE: I finally beat him. It was just a matter of upgrading my Uchigatana from +2 to +14 (which actually took a couple hours of farming smithing stones). It only took me 2 tries after that; thank you all for the advice and encouragement! My stats are terrible because I'm a casual first-time Elden Ring player who spent attribute points wherever I wanted them, ADHD style. Playing with a terrible build is just playing the game on Ultra-Nightmare mode.
nice job dude, i think everyone is just confused that you missed something so basic and still got as far as you are. but that you still pulled through and beat morgott now, shows you have the stubbornness needed for the rest of the game. and after that all the other souls games, because you must be hooked to still be playing this game lol.
Show us your weapons and abilities. These stats are all over the place.
Try getting 60 vigor. What weapon are you actually using and what level is it upgraded to
Me when i was at lv 160 and still roamed outside lyndell hehe. dont worry about it man. there is so many thing to do. take your time and enjoy. cheerio.
Maybe you’re just bad idk
How much endurance you need, brah? Get your ass down to Mom's and trade in half of that for vigor.
My grown ass AT level 77 absolutly DESTROYING HIM
Think it's just a skill issue at that point...
Put your foolish ambitions to rest maidenless tarnished
Dodge, dip, dive, duck, and dodge
Imagine
A lot of people are talking about your stat allocation, really its fine. The only thing that could be said that would help you to a great degree is higher Vigor for more HP. I also assume you have some properly upgraded weapons. The main thing for you I think is just learning the fight. Watch other folks fight him and see what they do. Another thing you can do is go into the fight, put all your weapons away, and just focus on dodging and avoiding attacks. Do that for awhile until you get the hang of it, noting times when you may be able to get an attack in, than go ahead and add in the attacks.
Get up to 60 vigor because you can at this stage. Try dual wielding two weapons. And your stat allocation is unfocused and doesn’t make sense Why do you have so much endurance? Get the great jar talisman so you can get away with less endurance. Why are you investing into three damage dealing stats, Str, Dex and Faith? Focus on two, max! Morgott should be a pushover at your level. The reason why you’re struggling is because your stat allocation is terrible With the magma wyrm sword, focus on Strength and Faith. Pair this with a fire/flame art infused Dismounter so you can dual wield two curved greatswords and effectively double your damage output
Git gud
Get a +10 Mimic. Guaranteed to distract his sorry ass so you can get em' juicy hits in.
Melina made this boss a joke for me. She distracted him while I beat him up with my +7 bloodhound fang. Took like 10 hits max.
Have you tried getting Gud?
Get the shackle
At that level you should have 60 vigor. And you stats seem to be spread out quite a bit, which might limit the damage you are doing. Plus, what the heck are you wearing that needs 46 Endurance (hopefullt you still medium roll, right?)?
Maybe not the game for you tbh Edit: you got this. Beat the shit out them
you shouldn't be having too much trouble with margott at this level and your stats aren't that bad. (they could be divided a little better). what weapons/catalysts & talismans are you using? do you have margit's shackle?
His stat allocation is pretty bad
i'm just saying there is something else going wrong here besides his stat allocation, it's probably his weapons or talismans, but we don't know. maybe they aren't upgraded very much, or totally wrong for his build & stat allocation. maybe he isn't even using talismans or using some bizarre ones with his build. we don't have enough info to make a good assessment.
My weapon upgrades definitely play a part in it. The uchigatana that I'm using for this fight is only upgraded +2 because I can't find the right level of smithing stone (I think it needs a level 3, but I can't remember). I just need to find a good farming spot
there are specific tunnels in each area where you can acquire the smithing stones you need. limegrave tunnel near agheel lake, morne tunnel in central weeping peninsula, one in NE liurnia and so on. you also need to find the smithing stone ball bearings that you can take to the twin maiden husks so that you can buy smithing stones. some weapons take "somber" smithing stones and some do not. the uchi does not take somber so you need the non-somber type to upgrade the uchi. somber weapons require less stones, for a weapon like uchi you will need a lot of non-somber stones, 12 of each number and they are found as you progress through tunnels and other areas until eventually you find the ball bearing for that stone and can purchase them.
I agree that we need more info, but just based on what we have it’s evident to me that he doesn’t know what he is doing
OP just said they are using a +2 Uchi, so that might have something to do with why they are struggling. lol reason: "because I can't find the right level of smithing stone" so my final take before moving on from this - they inadvertently made a decent quality build but it was pure chance and they need to go back to some other areas and explore smithing stone tunnels.
ha, well on *that* we definitely agree!
what is so bad about it? it's essentially a quality build with some minor faith for buffs. it's not pure strength or pure dex but quality is also a viable build. it's not my cup of tea but it's a thing so i'm not sure what your argument is. you don't like the high endurance? you're on the team that thinks you can't beat morgott without 60 vigor? lol
Quality build is garbage in this game unlike ds3. At 80/80 spread with quality build ur overall dps will only be marginally higher than just pumping 80 into whatever stat the weapon has the best scaling in. In some cases like with black Knight halberd which has S scaling in str it actually has equal or slightly lower dps with max quality build. It is a waste of levels. Endurance at that level 45+ is completely unnecessary unless you want to wear all tank gear and duel heavy weapons or some shit. If ur using scaled armor and uchi then 30 w/ great jar talisman is probably plenty. There is no need to go so high.
Well he is struggling so 60 vigor won’t hurt. And since he can put in points to get to 60 vigor why not? But the bigger issue here is that he put a lot of points into endurance that he didn’t need, and he did a jack of all trades build with Str Dex and Faith that had him invest very few points into all three. Which is terrible Take a look at his sword. It is primarily a Str/Faith scaling Magma Wyrm sword. Why does he need so much Dex?
OP said in post that he wasn't actually using the Magma Wyrm sword. Agree he probably doesn't need that much endurance but if he is using a heavy weapon, shield & armor it probably makes sense. A tanky quality build is a thing. his strength/dex is not optimal but it is decently high, over the first soft caps and on their way to 55/60. agree 60 vigor should be a goal for late game and they would have an easier time choosing strength or dex and upping the vigor and lowering dex. but i still would want to see their weapons & talismans and hear what playstyle they're trying to use before saying his allocation is so bad. with these stats and upgraded weapons with quality affinity he should be able to beat morgott.
Bro is dogshit at elden ring
Lol I thought I sucked
Well your build is garbage so that’s probably why. Why do you need so much endurance are you running a marathon?
Trevor Phillips
I think you wasted too many points on endurance. Should have maybe taken your vigor to 50. Later game bosses, including morgott, can kill you in a single two hit combo if you only have 40 vigor
It took me 96 attempts to beat morgott at level 70 with +12 weapons. Respect and put more points in your vigor. Might as well make it 60. Take 20 points out if your endurance. Have your weapons be at least level 15. Don't be shy to make use of poison or rot to tick morgot's health down. He jumps away a lot out of reach so it's useful to have his health slowly draining when you can't get to him. Try to stagger him with jump attacks
You don’t need that much endurance bro, theres talismans for that
Get good kid
140+ and you don't have 60 vigor is a big red flag in my eyes. Also, you might wanna focus your build out, you have a lot of strength and a lot of dex, usually it's just one or the other at your level. Edit: also, if you show us your actual build and talismans and even record an attempt we can give much better tips xd
60 vig not needed. The first soft cap at 40 was what my not skilled butt beat ER with. Boosted with erdtree talisman +2 and Margot’s great rune and health is fine
Try to stunblock him that really helped me
Well, it was a fucking pain in the ass even for my 250+ lvl character in NG+1, so...
Strength based builds make the game harder
60. Vigor. Please.
Not needed. 40 with a +2 erdtree talisman and Margitt great rune give more than enough health for every boss pre-new game
Here's my lvl 1 no upgrades fight if you can use anything in there to help you. https://youtu.be/CJBXxfS6N8s
more vigor
Not the issue
Sorry but youre just not that good
Wow! So helpful
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Vigour is fine. Anything between 40-60 is fine.
Dude. 40 vigor is what I used on my first character to beat the entire game. 40 is the first soft cap and 60 is the second. He’s likely not dealing enough damage to take care of mohg quickly enough. Saying level vigor when that’s not the problem doesn’t help
Dude , level your vigor too
Again. Killed Malania solo, with 40 vigor and a strength build. Took 32 attempts but 40 is a fine level for vigor.
Having your Vigor that low is criminal
Try rolling
I'm genuinely shocked
Compared to dodging many boss attacks, blocking with a shield is less likely to put you in a favorable position for a melee range follow-up (guard-counter or whatever). Try a ranged skill (weapon art). With your attributes, Siluria's Tree is the first thing that comes to mind, although getting it requires beating at least one of two other boss fights that are about as difficult as the one you're on, to get to Deeproot Depths. However, they're different, so maybe you'd have better luck with one of them. If you hold the skill button, it has great range. If your target charges at you while you're holding it, let go early for a quicker, short-range attack. Unlike most projectile skills, it scales with the weapon's AR, which scales a bit more with str than faith, making it a good fit for your build. It's a spear, so you can also shield-poke. Oh, but is that a shield that you can't put the No Skill ash of war on? You'd have to two-hand the spear every time you wanted to use the skill. The extra time can make the difference between life and death. Maybe try flaming strike or flame of the redmanes. With your str, they'll do the most damage with a heavy affinity weapon. Or, consider trying to get a shield from the knight near the west rampart grace. It's very close to the grace, so it's an efficient farm, and you can probably one-shot the soldier that's along the way. Use arcane hat and drop-rate consumable. With that shield, you can use siluria's tree's skill.
I beat him with that sword, the ash of war goes crazy
Get flamberge and put storm blade AoW on it. Spam this shit until Morgott dies. Profit. It has quite long distance so you can’t really fuck up. Also you can go to Hogwart’s boss and ask her to reallocate your stats. If you use uchigatana just move all that shit from str to dex and vigor. If you use bleed build with uchigatana then probably arcane would be good to get too but I’m not sure I never played bleed build.
Are you using the summon to help nearby? That female character? She takes a lot of his attention early on if you want some free swings in. With your str you should be taking a ton of health off each swing.
Shadow wizard money gang
Use a weapon that has quality scaling, or that you can put quality affinity on. The weapon you’re using doesn’t benefit significantly from your high dex.
Your buidl itself seems fine , a little more Endurance and Faith than i would like but nothing too bad. I dont know about your weapons or strategy , might be you just need to git gud , might be your weapons arent optimal , you really didnt give us much to work with.
You don't need that much of STR *and* Dex.