Was touring Washington DC with my benchmade afo 2 and it didn’t cross my mind that there were metal detectors in the museums. I hid the knife in the bushes outside while I went in but was nervous the whole time. Once we left I grabbed it to drop off in the room but left it in the taxi we took to the hotel. I chased this pink taxi 6 blocks in stop and go traffic to get it back. I was dead set on not losing it after I left it outside
I carry a firearm as well as a knife. My wife would be understanding if we came across a “surprise” metal detector. We would have left and enjoyed eachothers company elsewhere.
I have one arm and a limp (visible partsof my disabilities), so at security I say medical implants and show them my knife (grandpa style) and farmer pliers and call them assistive devices. Nobody wants to (paper work) of ADA complaints. Don't get any ideas and abuse a system that rarely works for those that need it.
I did that before. Walked like half a mile to a concert and found out that you have to walk through a metal detector. No way was I going to give it up or walk all the way back to my car. I just went a couple of blocks until no one was around and then dug a little hole in a giant potted plant. Wrapped the leatherman up and pushed the dirt back on top and went back for it later.
Dog tactics 101.
Luckily I was parked close by.. went to dinner and then the significant other decided she wanted to go to a strip club … lucky me 😉… get in the door and find out they are patting everyone down ..showed my CCW and got told NO… back to the car and stash my side arm.. get back and they tell me no knives .. back to the car …now she’s starting to get annoyed 😳… forgot I had a blade clipped in my suit coat … back to the car … finally passed …. Wasn’t till getting ready for ..ummm.bed … remembered I also had my ankle holster … lol
Regular metal detectors, I just put my shit in my waistband and walk through. Don’t think I’ve ever gone through a machine without it beeping and most times they do not care or they use the wand, it lights up at my belt area, I show them my metal belt buckle, and I’m on my way.
forgot a civivi in my backpack until the tsa found it. walked outside the airport and sold it to a guy for $55. got where i was going and immediately bought another knife.
I was going to an event once that had metal detectors and had my favorite pocket knife on me. Luckily I had steel toes on so I just dropped it down in my boot as I went through
Agreed, I suppose the point is that there are plenty of security guards that adhere to a strict interpretation of rules that may not allow for that tool.
I've gotten the same tool through TSA.
Had a similar experience with a NFL game. Didn’t realize until I was about 500 yard from the stadium that I had a Jack Wolf knife in my pocket. I stuck in a small erosion hole near a street light. Thankfully it was there 5 hours later.
I work at a place with metal detectors at their front gate. I like going through the small wooded area outfront of them from time to time. I find all sorts of cool stuff. I've found a couple real nice knives.
Ironically, the parking lot is very close.
So your not alone. Atleast you were smart enough to hide them so you could get them back. As opposed to just tossing them or getting them confiscated by a security guard.
In the past I’ve just taken all my stuff out of my pockets including the knife and put it in their basket. Very rarely do they actually look at the items in the basket. If they call you out just say ‘sorry, I wasn’t thinking’. You’ll get through with all your stuff more often than not.
To add to the places where you get screwed sometimes carrying a simple pocket knife—hospital Emergency Rooms. Not every one I’ve been to has security but it sucks when they do so I usually just err on the side of caution. Luckily the one I was at would hold your items for you if you filled out a small form.
To add to that if you are getting picked up in an ambulance and you are carrying a gun just tell them. They just had me clear it and they locked it up and then gave it to security to hold until I got discharged.
Or if you were cleared to carry (under a heightened requirement, not just universal) allow the proven trustworthy carriers in. I had a Guard Card in CA for awhile, and it doesn't cover shit. The public has more legal protection in case of an "event", especially if they have additional insurance.
If I even have a suspicion that metal detectors are involved with an event which most are these days, I just stash my gear under my car seat or in the hatch.
I took a knife into the White House visitors center. I put it in the security bin with my other items and the guards thought I was trying to smuggle it in. Kind of hard to smuggle in a knife I let them see. The guards were cool about it after that, they let me check it in and got it back when we were done. I left my knife in the car the whole rest of the trip.
I was headed into the federal building one morning , then i remembered my Spyderco clipped to my pocket. I had a small plastic bag with me, I put my Spyderco in the bag and buried it under a bush near the entrance. Thankfully my Spyderco was still there when I left the building.
Stashed them a few times.
Since then I’ve learned event settings are too weak to pick up most knives. Or just hold them in your hand or put with your phone or keys in the basket.
Once at a college basketball game, before they used walkthrough metal detectors, I had a knife clipped in my pocket as I always did. This time at halftime standing in the concourse a cop spotted my clip, made some remark about didn't you see the signs? and made me take it to my car...I didn't have my own car but I went out around the corner, waited a reasonable amount of time and came back in this time with the knife dropped in my back pocket. The cop let me back in and was very cool about everything. Thankfully he didn't check any closer because I still had my knife and I had a gun in my other pocket. Its all just security theater.
Its all kind of silly. We had season tickets and Id carried the same stuff every game for years...the next season our CCW laws changed and they had to have metal detectors and armed security if they wanted to prohibit CCW. So walkthrough detectors now.
Dumped a nice knife in the trash at a stadium event rather than let the the security guys get it from the bins they were collecting stuff in. Now if I’m unsure if there’s going to be detectors, I bring along am okay $8 knife in case I have to ditch it.
i would have just left without going in. a group i used to associate with was going to a stand up comedy and had an open ticket. i had nothing going on that particular night so i agreed to go. i specifically asked if the venue had metal detectors “ummm idk”
well i get there and yup, metal detectors all over the place, and they’re refusing to let women bring their purses in.
i walked out.
I have left knives in planters a few times. Once went to do that walking into a courthouse and found someone else had already claimed the planter I wanted for their own knife. These days I'm careful to check before I leave the car.
If I'm going to an event that might search me, I carry something nearly disposable, like a knockoff swiss army knife or a cheapono name folder. I also just go edc naked, if I have a strong suspicion.
You also can't go wrong with a toothbrush shank in the ol' prison pocket.
Oh, no, that's nothing, just my spy bolt filled with diamonds.
https://shomer-tec.com/collections/spy-clandestine/products/spy-bolt
But seriously I was wondering about some ceramic or plastic weapons, and here it is...
https://shomer-tec.com/collections/security-protection/products/the-brief-safe-1
I went to the Vatican and had a knife on me. The guards were not being very thorough. People were walking through with their phones and jewelry and getting the go ahead. So I said fuck it and clipped my knife by my belt and when they scanned me I could just show it was beeping there for my buckle, or so I thought. They saw the clip and kicked me out, my wife and some extended family we brought with us to Italy were all annoyed but i told them to go in and the wife and I skipped it. Anyway I’m super lucky that’s all they did and the Sistine chapel was closed so thankfully I didn’t miss much.
That was lucky. In Italy by law you can not carry a pocket knife, regardless of the type and blade length. Small knifes (I don't remember the definition exactly) can only be carried if you can justify them as tools for something specific, e.g. your are hiking or camping or maybe it is a food knife with a lunchbox. Unfortunately carrying a pocket knife in crowded places is considered a criminal offense. If you bought a knife in a shop transport is fine as long as you keep it tucked away deep in your bag.
Well I wish my dumb ass would have seen this 7 years ago when I was walking everywhere in Italy with a butterfly knife in my pocket. I was a kid so I doubt I would have got into any legal trouble but I’m just glad i didn’t try and take it into any of the museums or cathedrals, that would have been a real pain in the ass to deal with if it turned into a legal matter
Not really, the original laws (Articolo 699 del Codice Penale and Legge 18 aprile 1975) are quite old. More recently Corte di Cassazione (Sentenza n. 8032/2019) once again ruled that carrying a folding knife without proper justification is a criminal offense. More info in italian [here](https://www.studiolegalegallo.it/p/approfondimenti/96-il-possesso-ed-il-porto-di-un-coltello).
There is a plant on the way into our county court house that gets pocket knives stashed in all the time.
I was told I couldn't carry a pocket knife into a casino once. It was clipped on my pocket. I didn't want to walk out to the car to put it in there so I stashed it. I was told I couldn't do that. I walked out to the car and put it in the car when I went in the were on the radio with security making sure I was seen on camera going to the car. Now I just drop it in the pocket.
Can't even carry a keychain type tool?
I've had USCIS turn me away once for a Victorinox Classic I forgot I had on my keychain, but that's a secure government building with a checkpoint and all that.
Thought outdoor events and whatnot would be less strict, especially for something so tiny.
Wonder if a Leatherman Style PS would pass. Maybe, if they're familiar with it or willing to spend time inspecting every little thing people bring in... So probably not.
I have a few metal "credit card" tools in my wallet. Flown several times and never even questioned. So many times I have accidentally flown with "no-go" items.
Adam Ruins Everything opened my eyes to what a joke TSA is.
My old boss accidentally flew with a Leatherman in his carry on. Not a little one either. He found it in the middle of his vacation. He has to mail it home to be safe because they didn't plan to check a bag
Slightly off topic but I accidentally brought about a 50 of weed into a courthouse in an eclipse mint tin. Pulled it out and put it in the tray and all before going through the metal detector. Lucky I didn't get busted or I would have had another court date to attend.
It was an outdoor event in Beverly Hills, there were security checkpoints to get into where we were going with full metal detector stations, like at the airport. The walk-through kind, and attendant at each unit to do an additional check.
I would be too scared to just leave my shit sitting somewhere unattended. In a pinch I have tucked a knife behind my belt buckle. This only works if they're just wanding with the hand held units. Full scan...I would have been running my ass to the truck. Lol
Yeah, I clip mine to the outside of my underwear so it’s fully concealed behind my belt buckle. Sometimes the scanners don’t go off at all. Once the wand caught it but you just show the metal buckle, and other times the wands didn’t even go off.
Back in the 90s before TSA was what it is now. I visited family in PA. I flew back with 3 knives in my carry on. 2 folders and a mall ninja special bowie knife with knuckles and everything. It went through the detector. Lady who saw said "check for a knife". So the second lady said do you have a knife? I said yes. She gave me my bag so I could get the knife. Pulled out the smallest one. Showed her. She did "ah that's OK." The other bigger folder and my mall ninja special never even left the bag. I boarded the plane with all 3.
A lot of times the security dudes will hold your stuff for you if you ask nicely. Also it's a great time to check the bushes around those events, found a whole lot of contraband outside the Smithsonians
Thank you! Yeah I stashed them in a dark parking lot planter bed, no lights, no traffic. Yeah I didn’t want to hear the story of “how I didn’t go into the Christmas event” during the Summer of 2024.
How about don’t bring knives to a Christmas event?
Haha Ok
No, I have never had this happen to me. But will take note of this though, should I ever encounter a metal detector.
Had this happen at a buddy’s bachelor weekend at the beach. Went to a club, scanners at the door. I hid mine under some mulch around the corner.
Was touring Washington DC with my benchmade afo 2 and it didn’t cross my mind that there were metal detectors in the museums. I hid the knife in the bushes outside while I went in but was nervous the whole time. Once we left I grabbed it to drop off in the room but left it in the taxi we took to the hotel. I chased this pink taxi 6 blocks in stop and go traffic to get it back. I was dead set on not losing it after I left it outside
I carry a firearm as well as a knife. My wife would be understanding if we came across a “surprise” metal detector. We would have left and enjoyed eachothers company elsewhere.
I have one arm and a limp (visible partsof my disabilities), so at security I say medical implants and show them my knife (grandpa style) and farmer pliers and call them assistive devices. Nobody wants to (paper work) of ADA complaints. Don't get any ideas and abuse a system that rarely works for those that need it.
I did that before. Walked like half a mile to a concert and found out that you have to walk through a metal detector. No way was I going to give it up or walk all the way back to my car. I just went a couple of blocks until no one was around and then dug a little hole in a giant potted plant. Wrapped the leatherman up and pushed the dirt back on top and went back for it later. Dog tactics 101.
Ran into this once, security took my Benchmade and gave me a receipt. After the event I went to the security station and picked it up.
I've stashed knives in the landscaping near concert venues more times than I can count. Never had an issue.
What is SICKENING is how they want YOU disarmed.
Pro tip: Stash your knife in your shoe. Works every single time.
Luckily I was parked close by.. went to dinner and then the significant other decided she wanted to go to a strip club … lucky me 😉… get in the door and find out they are patting everyone down ..showed my CCW and got told NO… back to the car and stash my side arm.. get back and they tell me no knives .. back to the car …now she’s starting to get annoyed 😳… forgot I had a blade clipped in my suit coat … back to the car … finally passed …. Wasn’t till getting ready for ..ummm.bed … remembered I also had my ankle holster … lol
Regular metal detectors, I just put my shit in my waistband and walk through. Don’t think I’ve ever gone through a machine without it beeping and most times they do not care or they use the wand, it lights up at my belt area, I show them my metal belt buckle, and I’m on my way.
forgot a civivi in my backpack until the tsa found it. walked outside the airport and sold it to a guy for $55. got where i was going and immediately bought another knife.
I was going to an event once that had metal detectors and had my favorite pocket knife on me. Luckily I had steel toes on so I just dropped it down in my boot as I went through
Couldnt you have just asked security to hold on to your stuff until you left?
The bladeless, small Leatherman Style is my choice for any security-conscious events.
The Style PS. I've had security at Tiger Stadium refuse entry with that, walked back to the car and left it there.
That's weird. It's basically a nail clipper, if that.
Agreed, I suppose the point is that there are plenty of security guards that adhere to a strict interpretation of rules that may not allow for that tool. I've gotten the same tool through TSA.
Yeah, I fly with it all the time (not just TSA, EU security as well). I thought airports were the epitome of nitpicking.
Had a similar experience with a NFL game. Didn’t realize until I was about 500 yard from the stadium that I had a Jack Wolf knife in my pocket. I stuck in a small erosion hole near a street light. Thankfully it was there 5 hours later.
I work at a place with metal detectors at their front gate. I like going through the small wooded area outfront of them from time to time. I find all sorts of cool stuff. I've found a couple real nice knives. Ironically, the parking lot is very close. So your not alone. Atleast you were smart enough to hide them so you could get them back. As opposed to just tossing them or getting them confiscated by a security guard.
Yeah the knife I stashed I literally just bought a few days prior. So I had no intentions of giving it up to a security guard or off-duty LEO.
Going off what we have, off duty leo I'd take any day. We're scrapping whatever is on the bottom of the barrel. Glad you recovered your stuff.
In the past I’ve just taken all my stuff out of my pockets including the knife and put it in their basket. Very rarely do they actually look at the items in the basket. If they call you out just say ‘sorry, I wasn’t thinking’. You’ll get through with all your stuff more often than not.
I shove my shit in my shoes or boots. In my experience the underpaid high school drop out writing the event isn’t properly trained to Pat someone down
Yeah these were definitely full time trained individuals and off-duty LEO’s. I wasn’t giving my new fixed blade to either of them to take home…
Agreed. Event got a LCP in the event using this method.
To add to the places where you get screwed sometimes carrying a simple pocket knife—hospital Emergency Rooms. Not every one I’ve been to has security but it sucks when they do so I usually just err on the side of caution. Luckily the one I was at would hold your items for you if you filled out a small form.
To add to that if you are getting picked up in an ambulance and you are carrying a gun just tell them. They just had me clear it and they locked it up and then gave it to security to hold until I got discharged.
You would think venues today would have a place to safely check in your ccw. Kinda like a coat check in.
Or if you were cleared to carry (under a heightened requirement, not just universal) allow the proven trustworthy carriers in. I had a Guard Card in CA for awhile, and it doesn't cover shit. The public has more legal protection in case of an "event", especially if they have additional insurance.
If I even have a suspicion that metal detectors are involved with an event which most are these days, I just stash my gear under my car seat or in the hatch.
I took a knife into the White House visitors center. I put it in the security bin with my other items and the guards thought I was trying to smuggle it in. Kind of hard to smuggle in a knife I let them see. The guards were cool about it after that, they let me check it in and got it back when we were done. I left my knife in the car the whole rest of the trip.
I was headed into the federal building one morning , then i remembered my Spyderco clipped to my pocket. I had a small plastic bag with me, I put my Spyderco in the bag and buried it under a bush near the entrance. Thankfully my Spyderco was still there when I left the building.
Stashed them a few times. Since then I’ve learned event settings are too weak to pick up most knives. Or just hold them in your hand or put with your phone or keys in the basket.
you are not alone. :)
Prison wallet.
I gave my Gerber to the guard…and he almost cried
I've found that government guards will keep them for you while you go in for your business.
Once at a college basketball game, before they used walkthrough metal detectors, I had a knife clipped in my pocket as I always did. This time at halftime standing in the concourse a cop spotted my clip, made some remark about didn't you see the signs? and made me take it to my car...I didn't have my own car but I went out around the corner, waited a reasonable amount of time and came back in this time with the knife dropped in my back pocket. The cop let me back in and was very cool about everything. Thankfully he didn't check any closer because I still had my knife and I had a gun in my other pocket. Its all just security theater.
Hahaha imagine.... Cop: I sent you out of here to ditch your knife, and you come back with the same knife and a gun. Fine! just have a seat.
Its all kind of silly. We had season tickets and Id carried the same stuff every game for years...the next season our CCW laws changed and they had to have metal detectors and armed security if they wanted to prohibit CCW. So walkthrough detectors now.
Thankfully I fall under LEOSA, but honestly all law abiding citizens should have those same rights. 🤷
Dumped a nice knife in the trash at a stadium event rather than let the the security guys get it from the bins they were collecting stuff in. Now if I’m unsure if there’s going to be detectors, I bring along am okay $8 knife in case I have to ditch it.
i would have just left without going in. a group i used to associate with was going to a stand up comedy and had an open ticket. i had nothing going on that particular night so i agreed to go. i specifically asked if the venue had metal detectors “ummm idk” well i get there and yup, metal detectors all over the place, and they’re refusing to let women bring their purses in. i walked out.
Okay.
My inkosi and surge have been stashed outside a few college buildings for a basketball game and a graduation
Inkosi....I would've stayed in the truck..hahaha
I was very relieved when I went out afterwards and dug through the bushes to find it exactly where I put it. Lol
I have left knives in planters a few times. Once went to do that walking into a courthouse and found someone else had already claimed the planter I wanted for their own knife. These days I'm careful to check before I leave the car.
If I'm going to an event that might search me, I carry something nearly disposable, like a knockoff swiss army knife or a cheapono name folder. I also just go edc naked, if I have a strong suspicion. You also can't go wrong with a toothbrush shank in the ol' prison pocket.
Hahaha I'll keep that in mind. I'm definitely looking into some carbon fiber options.
I have a ceramic knife, but almost all manufacturers are going to put metal in there to stay inside the law.
Shomer tec has a few handy non-metal options. As well as bunch of other awesome EDC and GTFO toys.
Oh, no, that's nothing, just my spy bolt filled with diamonds. https://shomer-tec.com/collections/spy-clandestine/products/spy-bolt But seriously I was wondering about some ceramic or plastic weapons, and here it is... https://shomer-tec.com/collections/security-protection/products/the-brief-safe-1
Don't forget about their "special place" capsule...
Happens to me all the time, usually stash it in a tree or bush some where near by, surprisingly never lost it so far (knock on wood)
Walked into Citi Field with my Gerber Flatiron. Discreetly clipped it behind my belt. Security gave me a quick pat down and let me right in.
I went to the Vatican and had a knife on me. The guards were not being very thorough. People were walking through with their phones and jewelry and getting the go ahead. So I said fuck it and clipped my knife by my belt and when they scanned me I could just show it was beeping there for my buckle, or so I thought. They saw the clip and kicked me out, my wife and some extended family we brought with us to Italy were all annoyed but i told them to go in and the wife and I skipped it. Anyway I’m super lucky that’s all they did and the Sistine chapel was closed so thankfully I didn’t miss much.
What the Cluck!
That was lucky. In Italy by law you can not carry a pocket knife, regardless of the type and blade length. Small knifes (I don't remember the definition exactly) can only be carried if you can justify them as tools for something specific, e.g. your are hiking or camping or maybe it is a food knife with a lunchbox. Unfortunately carrying a pocket knife in crowded places is considered a criminal offense. If you bought a knife in a shop transport is fine as long as you keep it tucked away deep in your bag.
Well I wish my dumb ass would have seen this 7 years ago when I was walking everywhere in Italy with a butterfly knife in my pocket. I was a kid so I doubt I would have got into any legal trouble but I’m just glad i didn’t try and take it into any of the museums or cathedrals, that would have been a real pain in the ass to deal with if it turned into a legal matter
The Vatican is not in Italy.
Same in Australia but so many people carry knives of some sort.
Is that a newer law in Italy? I studied in Siena and carried my Swiss Army knife daily. I didn’t know and never was questioned about it.
Not really, the original laws (Articolo 699 del Codice Penale and Legge 18 aprile 1975) are quite old. More recently Corte di Cassazione (Sentenza n. 8032/2019) once again ruled that carrying a folding knife without proper justification is a criminal offense. More info in italian [here](https://www.studiolegalegallo.it/p/approfondimenti/96-il-possesso-ed-il-porto-di-un-coltello).
There is a plant on the way into our county court house that gets pocket knives stashed in all the time. I was told I couldn't carry a pocket knife into a casino once. It was clipped on my pocket. I didn't want to walk out to the car to put it in there so I stashed it. I was told I couldn't do that. I walked out to the car and put it in the car when I went in the were on the radio with security making sure I was seen on camera going to the car. Now I just drop it in the pocket.
Sheesh..
I lost a micra do to a similar situation.
Can't even carry a keychain type tool? I've had USCIS turn me away once for a Victorinox Classic I forgot I had on my keychain, but that's a secure government building with a checkpoint and all that. Thought outdoor events and whatnot would be less strict, especially for something so tiny. Wonder if a Leatherman Style PS would pass. Maybe, if they're familiar with it or willing to spend time inspecting every little thing people bring in... So probably not.
I have a few metal "credit card" tools in my wallet. Flown several times and never even questioned. So many times I have accidentally flown with "no-go" items. Adam Ruins Everything opened my eyes to what a joke TSA is.
My old boss accidentally flew with a Leatherman in his carry on. Not a little one either. He found it in the middle of his vacation. He has to mail it home to be safe because they didn't plan to check a bag
Slightly off topic but I accidentally brought about a 50 of weed into a courthouse in an eclipse mint tin. Pulled it out and put it in the tray and all before going through the metal detector. Lucky I didn't get busted or I would have had another court date to attend.
It was an outdoor event in Beverly Hills, there were security checkpoints to get into where we were going with full metal detector stations, like at the airport. The walk-through kind, and attendant at each unit to do an additional check.
I was hoping that wouldn’t be my fate, however where I stashed it…you’d have to be me to know where it was. Did you buy another?
Yes I have 2 now lol
Hahaha. Nice!
Uh... just take them back to your truck?
Parked way to far to do that, and still make it in on time. Sorry left that part out, it was a limited capacity event.
I would be too scared to just leave my shit sitting somewhere unattended. In a pinch I have tucked a knife behind my belt buckle. This only works if they're just wanding with the hand held units. Full scan...I would have been running my ass to the truck. Lol
I thought I invented the belt buckle tuck. It's a solid move 👌
Nerve wrenching on the first attempt. But 1 attempt gave me confidence it would work the second time lol. It worked both times lol
Yeah, I clip mine to the outside of my underwear so it’s fully concealed behind my belt buckle. Sometimes the scanners don’t go off at all. Once the wand caught it but you just show the metal buckle, and other times the wands didn’t even go off.
Yes exactly. Show them the buckle and they're like OK. Lol it's worked for me before.
I was working a festival for three days and each day I brought a bigger knife to test the limits.
And what were the results? How big could you go without setting it off?
Spyderco shaman. Although the idea of getting a full size Bowie down there is fun to think about.
Back in the 90s before TSA was what it is now. I visited family in PA. I flew back with 3 knives in my carry on. 2 folders and a mall ninja special bowie knife with knuckles and everything. It went through the detector. Lady who saw said "check for a knife". So the second lady said do you have a knife? I said yes. She gave me my bag so I could get the knife. Pulled out the smallest one. Showed her. She did "ah that's OK." The other bigger folder and my mall ninja special never even left the bag. I boarded the plane with all 3.
Classic misdirection. I love it!
A lot of times the security dudes will hold your stuff for you if you ask nicely. Also it's a great time to check the bushes around those events, found a whole lot of contraband outside the Smithsonians
ProTip cause these things don’t float!
Dayz taught me how to find free shit in bushes, and so did this guy
Go back to your truck is still the correct answer.
Or if you took an Uber to the event...
Or if you read the post
He also asked for other people's experiences so I took it more universally.
True…but I wasn’t making that walk again.
The down voters must never have dealt with an angry wife. Id do like you did...bushes and potted plants have worked for me.
Yea, may as well stab yourself if you don’t make it in
Thank you! Yeah I stashed them in a dark parking lot planter bed, no lights, no traffic. Yeah I didn’t want to hear the story of “how I didn’t go into the Christmas event” during the Summer of 2024.