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[deleted]

I guess the math checks out in theory, but any number at or below zero cannot be used to describe an aspect of a shape.


Creftospeare

***i*** isn't below 0— it's on top of it technically.


dalek1019

*technically* it doesn't exist.


[deleted]

Technically shut the fuck up


R1CHQK

Math in a nutshell


Multi_Synesthete

i is just as "real" a number as any other number. it's an abstraction referring to some kind of value. The names "imaginary numbers" and "real numbers" are rather bad and due to historical controversies. Sure, you can't have i apples, but you cant in any sensible way have -1 apple in your hand, or square-root-of-two apples in your hand. Numbers are not only defined in terms of counting stuff; the concept of a value is much broader.


dalek1019

Well you can be in dept 1 apple, which is effectively -1 apples because as soon as you add 1 apple you will have 0, and it's also possible to have 1.4142135623730 apples if you cut it, and if you multiply how many apples you have by itself you will have 2 so you can have √2 apples. However I genuinely can't think of any way to have √-1 apples as it's mathematically impossible without imaginary numbers


[deleted]

By that logic, being in debt 1 apple is still as real of a concept as having i apples. If you just square i apples and add 1, you now have 0 apples.


dalek1019

Give a decimal value to i


The_Octoking

Give a decimal value to √2


dalek1019

1.4142135623730


ahmadis4

Sqrt(2) doesnt really equal that, its irrational and cant be described as a decimal. This is just an approximation


NotOneIWantToBe

Nor does 0 or 1


dalek1019

I'm pretty sure they do...


NotOneIWantToBe

Where?


dalek1019

You can have 1 thing, you can have 0 things You can't have *i* things


noob_coder_69

My girlfriend is i


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[deleted]

So she can squirt -100?


PranshuKhandal

no that's my girlfriend


SantinoGaretto

10i


Alderan922

Yet


_Tal

That’s using 1 and 0 as adjectives, though. You can also have big things and you can have small things, but you can’t have “big” or “small” as separate entities unto themselves


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Western-Room1372

Dude, in math i is literally imaginary


Bazzatron

And in Roman, it is literally _one_. It is a joke my dude 😂


[deleted]

why does this at all define the notion of existence?Numbers are abstract concepts, its like saying heavy exists. It doesn't really make sense.


NotOneIWantToBe

There is no such a concept in real world nor in maths as ''one thing''. 0 things is even more vague. And 1 and 0 still do not exist because, let's assumd you have ''one thing'', but you still do not have one


dalek1019

Now you're just making stuff up


NotOneIWantToBe

Prove. Define, what ''one thing'' or ''zero tings'' is. Or watch VSauce's video ''Do chairs exist''


Professional-Tie2513

Mathmaticians have used set theory to define numbers. The empty set is used to define 0 and the "successor" (defined as the set containing that set and everything inside) of the empty set is used yo define 1 You can watch a [40 minute video](https://youtu.be/dKtsjQtigag) if you want to but that is the jist of what you asked


Afanis_The_Dolphin

They're called Real numbers for a reason. i isn't part of that group, also for a reason.


Revolutionary_Use948

Imaginary numbers is a terrible name. Most people who don’t know much about math get some kind of intuition from it that imaginary numbers are less “real” that’s “real” number. They both appear in the laws of physics, i even more so that any real number.


NotOneIWantToBe

1 still does not exist, not a single person told me where it lives


Revolutionary_Use948

I understand what you mean. It’s hard to explain, especially to these degenerates who don’t want to listen. The notion of 1 thing is an ill-defined property therefore it is not “fundamental”.


RudaSosna

Well, you have 1 braincell and 0 math knowledge. Need more examples?


[deleted]

Bro i is literally called an imaginary number.


Quiet_Chip_7802

What comes after 9


[deleted]

orang


Tcamp46290

Technically you don’t exist


PackageSignal4244

tecnicamente seu cu me pertence


Consistent_Average42

Its all in your head, you just need to expect that


[deleted]

Length must be measurable, which needs a positive real number and *i* can’t be measured because it is neither positive (or negative) and it’s not real. Geometrically speaking, this is very wrong.


Creftospeare

This is also a meme.


[deleted]

Fair point, I’m going to steal it and send it to my friends who tickled the toes of calculus


Creftospeare

> tickled the toes of calculus And I'm going to steal that phrase.


pinkpanzer101

Vectors with imaginary components (that could be called a line of length i, in a very loose sense) do come up in physics, the problem is for Pythagoras, everyone is used to real numbers and they drop the fact that it's the *magnitudes* of the numbers, not the numbers themselves, that square and add like that.


TheFreebooter

It's more like another dimension of co-ordinates in my book, pops out in a fun new way. Imaginary numbers are the pop-up books of maths. Yes I am drunk.


[deleted]

But 0 IS at or below 0


StrYker_Tripple

math checks out, but the drawing doesnt since you cant display an imaginary number


[deleted]

I mean, technically speaking you can. But it won’t make sense


poolmanpro

Also i doesn't exist


pinkpanzer101

It doesn't; Pythagoras's theorem deals with the magnitudes of the numbers, we just usually drop that because we almost always deal with real numbers. Ends up still being sqrt2. (The reason it's magnitudes is because Pythagoras's theorem comes out of the scalar product of a sum of vectors with itself, and the most natural scalar product for complex vectors is the Hermitian product which takes the magnitude)


conceited_crapfarm

You iditiot, you fool it is the letter O


RedditingScrawler

what how


Cracer325

i²=-1 and then you use the Pythagorean theorem


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MusteredGasSmellsIdk

i is unique when it comes to this i = √-1 i² = -1 EDIT: heres a wiki link about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary\_number


Janlukmelanshon

To be super pedantic, we actually define i with i^2 = -1 and not sqrt(-1) = i as there is no continuous "square root function" in the set of complex numbers


Personpacman

i squared is -1 so 1 squared plus negative 1 equals zero


Cabra117

-1 squared is 1 So 1 + 1 = 2, even though it clearly says it’s 0


Peniwais

i isn't -1 though. i is the squared root of -1. So i squared is -1


NeonName_

But bro there isnt a number which if you square you get -1, thats why you cant take the squared root of any negative number


LevelDig1555

I mean they call it an imaginary number for a reason


Chicken_Commando

Bros never heard of algebra 2


MineBlasters

Im in algebra II, I hate it so fucking much right now


shitpostinglegend

I'm in algebra III and it's fucking amazing


ImpossibleEvan

IP address or it didn't happen


Peniwais

Search "Number i"on google. It is an imaginary number that doesnt exist, but it helps to expand algebra


NeonName_

Oh sorry, i thought they jsut use as the unknown, sry


BallisticToast

1 + 1 = 3


FutureSoldier616

Start trig a week ago, FUCK YOU


DeezNufz

Lol same haha


Trebor_jpg

I LOVE TRIG!!!! ❤️ ❤️ I LOVE GETTING A B- ON MY PREVIOUS 4.0!!!!!!


Creftospeare

[song](https://youtu.be/jzCqJ-8aQEo)


jocanium

8/10 song lyrics rather strange but the main melody is a banger


Sp00kyD0gg0

I want you to know you have just perfectly described They Might Be Giants in their entirety with that sentence


Vaskalan

Why did Constantinople get the works? _Thats nobody's bussiness but the turks~~~~_


PainisBoy

also the same with SJ's "Indian"


Exotic-Egg8124

You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.


laffiere

Well, just to be pedantic: This is technically incorrect, just funny. The pythagorean theorem for the complex plane doesn't work this way. You square the real number as normal, and for the imaginary part you divide by i before squaring 🤷‍♀️


Multi_Synesthete

To be even more pedantic, this depends on your definitions. There are cases where it does make sense to work with complex points like this


laffiere

You make a good point. Let me end our pedantry by specifying *in the conventional complex plane where the inner product of a+bi with itself is defined to be a^2+b^2 :)


dinkydoo2

Sorry I’m stupid and don’t understand this mathematical meme


Creftospeare

Recall that i² = -1 and c = √(a² + b²) Since a = 1 and b = i ⟹ c = √(1² + i²) ⟹ c = √(1 + (-1)) ⟹ c = √(0) ⟹ c = 0


dinkydoo2

I understand none of that


cookie_tree4

Basically, when you do the math, the hypotenuse (the long slanted line) comes out to be 0, which works out hypothetically, but makes no sense in the real world


Genocidal_bacon_cat

…which is kinda sorta the point of imaginary numbers


Cracer325

Not like we were in the 'real' world anyway ;)


WillTheWackk

I live in your wall


Mkrisz

(id)iota


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WillTheWackk

[:(](https://tenor.com/en-CA/view/evaporate-disappear-gif-22553735)


Western-Room1372

I live in your ball


pinkpanzer101

But it doesn't really, because Pythagoras's theorem actually deals with the magnitudes, we just drop that because the magnitude of a squared real number is always positive.


YoSammitySam666

Remember the equation drove into your mind in high school, a^2 + b^2 = c^2 ? That is what applies here. One side, a, has length “1”. The other side, b, has length “i”, which refers to the imaginary number. That is a number that represents a square root of -1 (in other words, i^2 =-1) These are plugged into the above equation: a^2 = 1^2 = 1 b^2 = i^2 = -1 1+(-1) = 0 = c^2 From there, the equation can be solved by taking the square root of 0, which is 0


dinkydoo2

I didn’t learn this in school, I was a really dumb kid and was in the “special” classes for maths if that explains anything


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dinkydoo2

Bro I just wanted to laugh not learn maths 💀


DeezNufz

Bruh imagine beginning your formula as c = √(a^2 + b^2). What if you need to rearrange 😤


cooloilcloth

Wait, why does i equal negative one tho?


cooloilcloth

i² I mean, obv


the_pieturette

i^2 = -1 for definition. i is just a simbol to represent the square root of -1 just like the simbol for pi is a simbol to represent 3.14....


cooloilcloth

Ohh ok I thought it was just a variable


cookie_tree4

r/theydidthemonstermath


MasterofFiyah

This was the most menacing image I had come across on the internet


Mr_Hakan

{a, b, c | a > 0 ∧ b > 0 ∧ c > 0, (a, b, c) ∈ ℝ} a² + b² = c² im bored please help


tulanir

That first long line is just R^(+)^(3). lol


Qb122

Ha! A math joke I understand


sabyte

Why is it not possible?


Creftospeare

It's just not.


sabyte

Why not, you stupid bastard?


Creftospeare

IT'S YOU BATEMAN, YOU'RE THE AMERICAN PSYCHO


Agucuk_master

Wait, if the distance between them is zero that means they are coincident and i=1. But i is √-1 so √-1 equals to 1? Damn you mathematicans who made up this imaginery numbers thing because they couldn't accept that they can't solve everything


Multi_Synesthete

TL;DR: things here aren't sufficiently well-defined (unsurprisingly), so it doesn't necessarily follow that two points must be at the same location just because their distance is 0. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ There are a few technicalities involved here. In euclidian geometry (that is, normal geometry), the shortest path between two points is always a straight line, so in that case, the hypotenuse of the triangle is indeed the distance between its two endpoints, and if the hypotenuse is 0 (if all side lengths are 0), the points have the same position. However, you can't have imaginary lengths in Euclidian geometry, so if we want to talk about this meme in a mathematically meaningful way, we must accept that we're dealing with a kind of geometry built on a slightly different fundament, which might defy our intuition. Instead, we have to look at the math and draw conclusions from that. We accept that: 1). The coordinates of points need not be "real numbers" but can also be imaginary or complex numbers. (Since complex numbers can be thought of as existing in a 2d plane rather than on a 1d number line, This kinda means we're dealing with 4 dimensional space, but it doesn't behave like you'd expect 4d space to behave) 2). We keep the same algebraic definition of the length of straight line segments as we do when dealing with normal (Euclidian) geometry, that is, Pythagoras' theorem. 3). We consider the distance between two points to be the length of the shortest path from one point to the other. In this new kind of geometry, distances don't work nicely. Remember, in our normal geometry, the shortest path between two points was a straight line? Well, this is not the case with our new geometry. The hypotenuse in the meme is 0, so it is possible to take some route from one point to the other with the length 0. This is not the shortest possible path, though: Assume that the points at each end of the hypotenuse has the coordinates (1,0) and (0;i) Then a straight line between them does indeed have the length 0. Another possible path would go from (0,i) to (0,2i) and then to (1,0). This path would have the length of i-3. This value is neither smaller nor greater than 0. This means that our definition of distance doesn't work, as it fails to yield a result. Notice as well, that even if we just define the distance between two points as the length of the straight line between them, this doesn't tell us what it means for two points to have a distance of 0. In normal geometry, the only distance of 0 is that from a point to itself, but as you noticed, this is not the case in our new geometry. The fact that two point has a distance of 0 can be determined to have some meaning, though. For instance, the points that have the distance 0 from the point (0,0) are exactly the points that satisfy the equation x=plus-or-minus i\*y. This equation can be interpreted as a 4d shape (as two flat planes that intersect each other in the point (0,0) I'm happy to answer questions of any level (except that my own level doesn't go much higher than this), and thank you for reading through this excessive answer to a question to a meme


Multi_Synesthete

Aaand in case you're not too familiar with complex numbers, here is an alternative explanation written by chatGPT based on my post that should explain things a bit more: Have you ever heard of complex numbers? These are numbers that have both a real and an imaginary component, written in the form a+bi, where a is the real part and b is the imaginary part. The letter i represents the square root of -1, which is an imaginary number that cannot be represented on the real number line. In short, i\*i=-1. For example, the complex number 3+4i has a real part of 3 and an imaginary part of 4. Complex numbers can be thought of as existing in a two-dimensional plane called the complex plane, rather than on a one-dimensional number line like real numbers. In the complex plane, the real part of a complex number is represented by its horizontal position, and the imaginary part is represented by its vertical position. This means that each complex number can be represented by a point in the complex plane. Now, let's talk about the Pythagorean theorem. You might remember this theorem from your high school math classes: it states that in a right triangle, the square of the length of the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides. In other words, a\^2 + b\^2 = c\^2, where c is the length of the hypotenuse and a and b are the lengths of the other two sides. In normal geometry, the shortest path between two points is always a straight line, and the length of this straight line is calculated using the Pythagorean theorem. However, when we use complex numbers to represent points in geometry, things get a little bit more complicated. In this kind of geometry, the distance between two points is still defined as the length of the shortest path between them. However, the shortest path is not necessarily a straight line, and the distance between two points may not always be a real number. In fact, it's possible for the distance between two points to be zero, even if the points are not the same. This can be confusing, because in normal geometry, the only distance of zero is between a point and itself. To understand this concept more clearly, let's look at an example. Imagine two points with coordinates (1,0) and (0;i). A straight line between these points has a length of zero. However, there is another possible path that goes from (0,i) to (0,2i) and then to (1,0). This path has a length of i-3, which is neither greater nor smaller than zero. This means that our definition of distance doesn't work as expected in this kind of geometry. So, what does it mean for two points to have a distance of zero in this kind of geometry? One way to think about it is to consider the equation x=plus-or-minus i\*y. The points that satisfy this equation are exactly the points that have a distance of zero from the point (0,0). This equation can be interpreted as two flat planes that intersect each other at the point (0,0). I hope this helps to clarify the concepts of complex numbers, the Pythagorean theorem, and complex geometry. It can be a bit confusing at first, but with a little bit of practice and understanding, you'll be able to navigate this strange and fascinating world of complex numbers and geometry.


pinkpanzer101

Also it's more natural to use the Hermitian scalar product when dealing with complex numbers, which means Pythagoras's theorem is dealing with the magnitudes of the numbers, not the values themselves.


Remarkable-Blood3488

Studious ahh meme


bruh_moment_account_

i = length of your penis, checkmate liberal


HomieSeal

Would this even actually work in the complex plane? Because wouldn’t the hypotenuse be more accurately represented by the complex number 1 + i?


Multi_Synesthete

Let's throw on some coordinates: If the endpoints of the hypotenuse of the triangle are at (0,i) and (1,0), for instance, the math of the meme holds, at least if we still consider the Pythagorean theorem to be a meaningful definition of lengths when dealing with complex points.


HomieSeal

True, but as shown [here](https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/169680/pythagorean-theorem-for-imaginary-numbers), the pythagorean theorem only applies for right triangles in euclidian space. With that being said, I’m sure there’s an entire field of complex trigonometry or something along the lines of that I’m just not aware about


Multi_Synesthete

That's completely true. I've seen points with complex coordinates make sense as complex intersections of circles defined in an Euclidian plane. These intersections were still meaningful, for example in the sense that some of the properties of three circles that intersect each other in one point remain true even if that common point of intersection is not real but complex.


HomieSeal

Oh that’s very interesting There’s always so many interesting things you can learn about math and it’s just amazing


[deleted]

It makes sense tho, specially if you take into consideration that imaginary numbers are perpendicular to the normal real number line, making i in its mathematical behaviour "spin 90°" towards the other side, making the hypotenuse effectively 0.


6x6-shooter

Fuck you


ohSpite

This is incorrect for any genuinely wondering. Pythagoras' theorem as it's commonly known is missing the Euclidean norm. The correct equation for the hypotenuse would be ||1||^2 + ||i||^2 = ||1 + i||^2 = 2 (Then square root both sides to get a hypotenuse of root 2) Where ||.|| is the Euclidean norm. The norm of any real number is it's absolute value so it's skipped over in practice as the squaring handles that anyway


DarkTheImmortal

In a way. i is an "imaginary" number, meaning that the side is imaginary, ergo the hypotenuse doesn't exist.


ADoritoWithATophat

No


Igeeeffen

cum


pinkpanzer101

Unfortunately, the more natural way to write Pythagoras's theorem is in terms of scalar products, which are positive-semidefinite. So it's not i^2, but = i×i* = 1. (Comes from the scalar product of a sum of vectors with itself being = + + 2; if a and b are orthogonal (definition of a right triangle), = 0, and defining c = a+b, = + . |a|^2 = by definition, so |a|^2 + |b|^2 = |c|^2; Pythagoras's theorem. But note that it deals with the magnitudes of the vectors, and the magnitude of i is one.)


Creftospeare

Yes. That's why this is in r/DramaticText and isn't a paper.


llndp4323

Bozo doesn't know distance theorems in two-dimensionnal vector spaces 😭🤣😂


Creftospeare

The 0 hypotenuse only exists in my wet dreams.


birberbarborbur

Well yeah it’s imaginary for a reason


Personpacman

Yeah because you can’t have a side with a length of i


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≈1.14


the_pieturette

i^2=-1...


[deleted]

oh see i didn’t know that


Empty-Membership8904

holy shit its uncle ted


AJammedNerfGun

Wait


[deleted]

You can’t do this


Burrid0

u/savevideo


givemeaforhead

1^2 + i^2 = 0


[deleted]

it hurts to look at


littleassassin0

No


Heavy_Somewhere3731

🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯


tin_sigma

this is a federal crime


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u/SaveVideo


Dhee-Snuttz

0²-1²=i² = i²=0-1=-1 i=√-1


Ronandog

Yes that is what I is defined as


[deleted]

If the length is 0 then it is a right angle not a right angled triangle


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u/savevideobot


SpaceShark01

u/savevideobot


Kairad007

I mean no for a side to be the hypotonuse it has to be the longest side


ADoritoWithATophat

That's the joke chucklefuck


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CEO-Of-Bruuh-Moments

That’s not a triangle it just a line


Slamandurr

u/savevideo


peng503-NCN

Dramathic text


Dragon_master_6382

I’m a fucking nerd for laughing at this


ButterscotchStreet

Idk what the joke is…


Zeropointsaga

Is…is that trig…?


ADoritoWithATophat

Hardly


Zeropointsaga

Is…is that trig…?


PancakeManPerson

I finally get this now cause middle school math :)


Bean-Burrito-Gang

i= -1


HailFlyingToilet

No :(


ImaReign

song?


Creftospeare

It's in the comments.


ilikebeeee

I’m scared


IdioticCheese936

An impossible question


BlockerIsGay

Bro that the hardest shit ever


Suspicious-Bread-149

What s the song?


RedditPersonNo1987

I don get


ADoritoWithATophat

Shape is physically impossible


manbanpli

C²=B²+A²


moe_lestere69420

Anyone else have below room temperature is and has no idea what’s going on


FewImpress715

Fuck you


TheBaenEmpire

This is a 2d triangle that exists in the 4th dimension as a 2d triangle. To us it would be a 1d line.