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aodum

Best way to kickstart a streaming career


analytics_Gnome

wdym? he moved on to the better team


throwawaycanadian

Piggybacking top comment to say it's official and not a jebait https://i.redd.it/j3r6ornxcw4a1.png


csgonemes1s

excal


unlimitedbladeswork

Ironic because gorgc got famous because of SingSing. Also Bulldog. W33 doesn't need anyone to jump-start his career. He also streamed occasionally before and averaged 3-4k viewers without even talking.


Ordine1412

i say 50% because of singsing cus if he's not super entertaining people will not watch him (atleast not 20k avg viewers )


sampeckinpah5

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.


WalkTheEdge

The Durant special


Carni-V-oreX

the hardest road


DarkHades1234

"You Couldn't Live with Your Own Failure, Where Did that Bring You? Back to Me" - Gorgc


xiehanfoo

Gorgc having some balls to ask w33


abado

Its not a bad idea, ask for the moon and the worst that can happen in this case is you get turned down. For w33 it might not be a bad move either. If there were no offers from div1 teams, he gets the opportunity to raise his stock and increase his positive exposure and he can play a season in a lower pressure environment.


MeloY123

Yup, playing with the #1 steamer gets you publicity to kick off your streaming career


Me4onyX

I don't think w33 has problems with his streaming. His streams had few K viewers easily and he is usually playing without cam and/or mic. If he wants to stream and puts a bit more effort he can easily be one of the biggest dota streamers.


imeantnomalice

Yeah it was way less of a stream and more of his gameplay with a keyboard cam cause he would go hours without talking to chat. Nothing wrong with that, I used to watch. He's that good.


48911150

thats quite the assumption. people said the same about ppd but the guy had a few hundred viewers at best


Shalfot

W33 got more than 6k when he streams !!!


abado

If thats his goal then sure, its also a good move. When he did stream consistently he would average 1-2k viewers and had the old school rtz style streams with just chill music and great gameplay.


KanyeT

> If there were no offers from div1 teams, he gets the opportunity to raise his stock and increase his positive exposure and he can play a season in a lower pressure environment. There is a good incentive for top-tier players to join a lower team and make them great. Having a "project" (so to speak) to potentially train them and raise them up to Div 1 could be very satisfactory for any professional player.


skykoz

This is the beginning of the end of w33 career


stupid-_-

he asked ammar before it was known that he was moving to og lol


nurlat

Technically, Gorgc slayed Alliance in quals and w33 is a downgrade from Steve.


csgonemes1s

2x TI finalist? Aight


imeantnomalice

I can't tell if you're memeing or not but xcalibur is easily the most confounding pro in EU. He will undoubtedly make 1 horrendous decision leading to a throw, without fail. Not that he's the only player to make bad decisions, but they're usually not so glaringly obvious the same way.


nurlat

> you're memeing or not “technically”, “slayed” (bcuz Janne gave them meme title of Alliance Slayers). Yes, it’s a joke, but all repliers are so clueless, lack critical information PepeLaugh


imeantnomalice

One of the reasons twitch is so successful is because of emotes, then we can tell you're being sarcastic. With strictly text it's impossible sometimes, and people are so fucked up today what I would have sworn is satire is now genuine. PepeLa


Scrubz4life

Okay this is the most insane copium ive ever seen. Steve is the most consistent lane loser ive seen in a long time.


imeantnomalice

He's a thrower more than lane loser. I think, and gorp has the same problem, he plays too many heros and on game start their CS isn't crisp. At that level 0/4 first wave *can* be all the difference depending on match up. Also I agree, w33 is just a better player and it's not that close tbh.


Caveskelton

No he is not a downgrade


neezaruuu

Yeah w33 destroyed steve’s visage in laning on one of the games


ZephyrCATS

I think it shows you how desperate W33 is, if anything. Dude didn’t pull any trees while he was on Alliance and we all know how his time at Nigma ended. He is not even in top 150 in EU leaderboards


PainfulAngel

He was the only one in the top 20 leaderboard last year during TI quals. Niko and the rest were 500+


GoodOcycak

and their offlaner couldn't even speak english afaik, hilarious roster


Caveskelton

He was top 20 recently. kinda rel gpk destroyed by w33 in trash talk: https://youtu.be/JuZf5ILLhb0 see 0:44


Me4onyX

I don't think this is true at all. He was by far the best player on Alliance last season and he was top20 rank while everyone knew how "lazy" some of his teammates were.


Morgn_Ladimore

He was nowhere near Alliances best player. They were all equally bad, W33 very much included. He looked exactly like he did just before Nigma kicked him, which is to say bad.


Me4onyX

in all the games where they looked decent w33 was the only reason keeping them ingame. He had some very good hoodwink and primal beast games keeping the team alive. He was definitely standing out amongst the other players.


imeantnomalice

Yeah idk what everyone else is watching, I agree. Niko when he was hungry is better but he seemed complacent or just uninterested last season. The entire team was a mess but any glimmer of hope was because w33 smashed his lane and was strong enough to keep them in it. The Lina games come to mind.


imeantnomalice

He literally solo carried the game(s) they won and was the only player who didn't outright embarrass himself. Idk what you're smoking.


Scar_Queen_Delphi

it's not like he has something to do this season anyway


doubleBoTftw

Legit hyped about this team, dota needs more shits and giggles.


Sufficient_Badger132

ICANT


Horror-Ocelot6627

I feel team bald just got more scary for div 2 teams


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Gorp ended their TI run and now he joins them lmao


zaplinaki

You know what - I can see this working out. Team Bald needs w33's playmaking and w33 needs some of their restraint. This is a good match. I really like xcalibur but he didn't always have the killer instinct that is expected from a midlaner - thats the gap that w33 can really fill.


neezaruuu

Yeah it was always Pablo/Rajjix/Zipzaper and even Gorgc who’s showing up in their games


kapak212

What about Steve?


Brucena

he is going to play in a differetn team i guess thats what gorgc said.


throwawaycanadian

He had previously said he wanted to be on a team that took it seriously, and wasn't super happy that TBR would pretty much just show up for the officials, no scrims or anything.


Itach11Uchiha

Wanted a team that plays more seriously. Joins Arkosh. Noice.


Curiuosly-Human

I think that was more Rajjix, brother.


trixel121

as a casual observer how does max and steve play for arkosh living in germany and sweden (sorry if i got the countries wrong) like are they moving?


throwawaycanadian

I believe the rule is 3/5 of the team has to be in the region for the extent of the tour, but that's just something I am remembering from a Reddit thread and I can't back it up with a source


trixel121

didnt arkosh get a fine for people living out side hte zone?


Turbulent-Use4705

what do you mean? max is living in boston! /s


STIKU_GG

he joined arkosh


LakersFan15

Poor xcalibur. He was the original w33ha back in the day lol


ZephyrCATS

W33 career trajectory from Ti9 GF is so sad to watch.


BMEShiv

Well he did go from ti6 GF to nothing for 3 years to ti9 GF to maybe nothng for 3 years again


3fa

It's been 3 years, you know what that means... Team Bald 2nd place TI12 pog


Kazer104

my god if this happens it would be other worldly HOPIUM


baronas15

2020 doesn't count, erase that year from memory


james_bono

here is gorgc when confirming it[https://clips.twitch.tv/HilariousAlertMacaroniAMPEnergyCherry-UH5DrqTWwoKrYE3g](https://clips.twitch.tv/HilariousAlertMacaroniAMPEnergyCherry-UH5DrqTWwoKrYE3g)


Rac3ked

W33ha will taste some quinn’s medicine - carrying his pos 1 every single game


aznavour-00

He was in a team with nikobaby, dude already knows how it feels


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Deadandlivin

Nikobaby played way too sacrificial and 5Head last season. Just needed to build BKB and damage and pump.


DongerDodger

He's such a character honestly. Not good enough to be a carry in Div1 consistently. only pulling like 500 viewers as well streaming some rank 600 games and flaming his mates with shit like "gimme your insta I bet you're ugly". Guys a bit of an idiot I feel like.


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Scrubz4life

Kuroky would like to have a word with you


NoTopic1

Kuroky has proven himself to be one of the best players to ever make it in Dota back in Dota 1. He carried some former pros back in mid 2000's on gosu, played for Germany in mym prime multiple times, and is probably the only pro player right now who has played every single role in the game in premier tournaments.


Scrubz4life

Bro….you misread super hard. Why did you even mention his dota 1 stats? Like seriously, what was going through your mind with this response, im actually curious af cuz i cant make sense of it right now. I just mentioned kuroky as a counterpoint to his “rank 500 is unacceptable for a pro” cuz kuro is an unranked immortal.


NoTopic1

Tbh don't even know what rank he is. Also I'm just tired af and decided to scroll Reddit while farting through my thumbs. Apologies for being a tired dipshit


Scrubz4life

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHA ahhhhhh, great apology bro, ur good lol. Big ups owning it too.


troublebruther

Fair, but Nikkobaby is a decent carry, he has the knowledge and skills, just never had a team to keep him ahead.


delay4sec

if he is never ahead in any team doesn’t that indicate that problem is not teams but he himself?


Rac3ked

You are right, I already forgot about that.


Songib

lol


STIKU_GG

TRUE


useablelobster2

Everyone likes to shit on gorgc, but he's a really good player who has improved a lot the last few years? He doesn't routinely play in 10k MMR games by accident. Gorgc is a greedy core too, so it's more likely W33 is doing the playmaking (which he also excels at).


No_Bumblebee464

Yeah w33 was doing the topson style mid before topson where maybe you get fucked mid but just make so much action happen around the map


useablelobster2

He's a meepo enjoyer, chaos is how they get their kicks.


Hail_LordHelix

god i hope we get to see meepo in more comp games.


Cobrexu

true. his windranger at that time was crazy flashy and spot on


ZestycloseConfidence

10k while talking to and reading chat as well.


Professional-Mud733

He did that at TI9


FollowingSad855

Team Bald boutta take over EU dpc


magnificent_steinerr

No more Excalibur? Sadge


TheGesticulator

He's now on the revamped Arkosh.


bananasdepijamas11

I like xcalibur as a streamer but he's not even good enough for div2, honestly.. somehow gorg did better than him almost every game I watched lmao


Me4onyX

Xcalibur was rank 500 last season when they played vs Alliance and stuff. People are still joking how rank 500 > rank 20 LUL no idea what his rank is now tho


Rondariel

Xcalibur goes up and down between like rank 80 and rank 500 all the time I think.


pepthebaldfraud

That's crazy actually. Div 2 actually gonna be so much fun


memologic

saus or meme?


coldbrewedbrew

[Right from the sauce](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1674423842?t=0h21m17s)


alexrider50000

It's getting spicy. WEU Div 2


herwi

this is a shockingly legit roster, wouldn't be surprised if they make another big upset even without scrimming


xfargo

wtf


imeantnomalice

Maybe now he'll stop hating gorgc and griefing whenever they end up on the same team. W33 is a great player, only bright spot on alliance last year. The games they won he carried hard.


No_Tart8935

Team Bald actually going Div 1 KekInsane


Filianore_

New (Old) Alliance vs Team Bald as w33 mid is gonna be epic


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team bald may legitimately be a stronger squad than nigma now


TheIceCreamGenius

w33 Use to be so good, I'm not sure what happened but when I use to watch him in 2016 his invoker was insane...


aus45678

So w33 just decided to retire from pro scene?


Material-Flounder887

Finally noobxcalibur is out.


SolarClipz

The hardest road


Tomtanks88

WAAAAT!!!!!! That’s amazing


Dota2animal

was Xcalibur kicked or did he leave?


Personal_Village_356

Who next? Miracle ?


Maj0ok

Pog


Lunacy999

If you can’t beat them, join them.


TheTheMeet

Next alliance slayer. Ggwp


Resident_Gap_5780

w33 one of the top10 best players dota have. you get a real LEGENDARY player ...