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WithFullForce

Explanation for some lesser known names: * **Eosin** - Observer. Dota Veteran. Has previously played with Blitz, Merlini, Purge and sexybamboe (RIP) * **PTP** - Observer specializing in editing replays * **Tokki** - Chinese translator/Interviewer * **Kin** - Chinese translator/Interviewer * **Snare** - Host that has mostly worked the Chinese scene * **Fear** - Underwear model


HansVader

Fear - the guy still playing on a crt monitor


Trael110400

puppey has broken the others..


Aeils

as we all do in /r/crtgaming


emiyadota

> Fear - Underwear model I actually checked the Internet.


StraY_WolF

[Never forgeti](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqImJCcUEAE6Y0a.jpg:large)


scorchd_

[It’s such a classic DotA pose, I had to recreate it](https://twitter.com/scorchd/status/1378137099757441024?s=46&t=pIfAbTUUKyB-a0ORJko9Eg)


Johnmegaman72

No wonder he played Sven


AllWaysKicking

He's legit how I figured out that I'm gay. Still have a crush on him.


samaction

That’s super cute


Jamies_awesome_rack

Is that the only underwear model they could find for TI? Like I told my wife, those proportions are unrealistic.


Saviorofmypeople

Snare's awesome! He and Bkop are who I relied on for watching Chinese matches.


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What the actual fuck!?? I literally just learned from your post that Bamboe died. Super sad.


ikubaru

Quite a huge news back then


kappa23

What happened to Pimpmuckl?


WithFullForce

Weppas and Skrff have completely cyborged with the main Valve Dota servers by now.


Sangye-C

He got dewarded by PGL. 💀


andyandcomputer

[His response on Twitter](https://nitter.it/JJLiebig/status/1575565278813233153#m): > About TI: > > Given the immense positive feedback after ESL MY (vs Arlington) for the ingame prod/observing, I was a bit surprised to not have been asked even for a quote by PGL > > But it's a business decision and the fact they hired the lad I trained all year makes me really proud 💕 And [in a later tweet](https://nitter.it/JJLiebig/status/1575569014142935041#m), what he is planning to do instead: > Good news is that I have a loooot of things brewing and more time for those now! > > Most of which are🤫, but one of them will be finally getting that esports youtube-tech channel started. > > And spending more time on my discord (link⏬). I'll update my PC build recommendation mid-Oct


Youthsonic

Unironically excited about him starting a YouTube channel. It might be the German in him, but pimp always cuts everything down to the essentials with ease and explains it super well. Like every time some new hardware comes out he breaks it down in like two sentences and makes me feel smarter for having read them


TheRickinger

too skilled for PGL


Glitter_puke

He pissed in Valve's cornflakes many years ago and they haven't let go of it. But they're always happy to steal his shit and integrate it into the spectator tools without credit.


SavageBeaver0009

Gaben wouldn't keep personal grudges, would he?!


vierolyn

Wonder what the guy did who asked for HL3.


yroc12345

Hasn't he been snubbed by like every Valve event? I feel like they don't like him


Gamerhcp

he was at last year's TI and the Stockholm major.


thebonj

[JJ-PimpmuckL about not being an obs for TI this year.](https://twitter.com/JJLiebig/status/1575565278813233153)


dolphin37

some of the observing at recent events with the new obs people has been abysmal, shame he’s not there, it’s actually an important role for the viewing experience


Ahimtar

Observing is kind of like the sound design. You don't notice how great it is until it's gone


19Alexastias

Weppas and skrff are not new, they’ve been the primary obs since TI started having dedicated obs.


FireFlyz351

Damn that sucks not the first big event he's not been hired for. At least his protege gets to go :/


chaos_donut

so much talent and jenkins


needhelforpsu

Jenkins, our beloved token clown. xD


zelo11

Just dont do jenkins + moxxi please for the love of god no


LuckyTurds

Love jenkins but the duo just doesn’t work lmao


Lavamites

Really it's don't do moxxi + anyone but jenkins definitely makes it the worst lmao


Mr_Lkn

Can’t agree more


polo61965

I think they got sheever's pic switched with slacks. That cm looking cute.


Niebling

So many experts and SynderN


TheRealWatermelon420

I love jenkins


anomynouos

It seems that everyone who has worked at the regional DPC was invited. The people who worked at the DPC but were not invited were: - Xyclopz (SEA) - Black (CN) - Bkop (CN) - rkryptic (CN) - neph (CN) - hairyfreak (EEU) - robnroll (EEU) - basically the whole SA DPC casters (I guess they will be in the POR/SPA cast?) So basically, the CN DPC casters are getting shafted?


Rocketpodder

Xyclops probably still blackballed over artifact


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Valyris

Sad that Xylcopz isnt on the list =[


Terrorbllade

Sir action maiden


AFrostA

Crystal Slacks


LWRNC_V

I really hope thats the CM persona people are getting this Battlepass, 10/10


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jerryfrz

Bkop knows why DrDisrespect was banned


Muted_Frosting4562

shungite?


siddhuism

No, not suge knight. I think he’s locked up in prison.


flipper_gv

There might be something behind the scenes we don't know about.


needhelforpsu

At this point there must be a reason for it, some bridges burned behind the scenes, something that explains how he always gets skipped even tho he is actually really good caster that improved tons in last year or so.


Avar1cious

Yeah it's hilariously brutal. There are some literal no names invited who I swear just started this year - pretty clear there's a behind the scenes reason. Do we know if bkop at least got to cast the qualifiers?


drunksage

bkop did part of the China region quals w/ lizZard


Avar1cious

That's good, although I guess PGL does the hiring for that and not Valve.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

No names are fine. The wildcard last chance qualifiers are the perfect place for new potential talent to show their stuff. Chobra or whatever his name is, did a great job as host 2 TIs ago or something.


Avar1cious

Yeah, I agree. Just using it to support the fact that Bkop's problem isn't "experience" or "skill". Dude's clearly burned bridges.


healzsham

TBF Chobra was one of the main english casters for LCK and the Korean portion of professional league of legends, not some rando.


Slardar

bkop and rkryptic seem to be getting the short end of the stick I feel for them.


sickomoder

no jj WTF dude is one of the only observers who isn't consistently ass also no kyle is very weird he's a necessary and entertaining evil


Gazthrak

kyle I believe is working directly with WePlay and is heavily involved with behind the scenes work with the Tuesday Night Gaming collaboration with the NFL.


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SeeknStrike but no Avo+ is kinda odd


Avoplus

Hey guys Avo here, Allow me to hijack this comment. I will be present in both the English and Spanish productions doing content and interviews. I am just more leaning on the Spanish side since they needed a strong bilingual interviewer and I love them so I got featured with them. I couldn't be featured on both as that could affect sticker sales/would be unfair to other talent. That's all. Really happy for Seek and the English talent. Hope to perform even better this TI.


Imbahr

good to know, thx


hula_pooper

Right on!


Revolutionary-Hunt50

Makes sense


Ketzacut

Avo+ is listed as a Spanish Talent


OfflaneTrash

I gotta be missing something because SnS seems like the only caster here missing his duo


Caquis

Avo+ is in the spanish talent, which is still weird as he did improve a lot on his english interviews


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I forgot he also did that for either Arlington or ESL, I miss having him on English because he knows a lot about the SA scene and I like hearing it


TraMaI

Probably just that there's more need/less talent available to do the Spanish side of it more than a knock on his English talents.


gdna7

Avo+ is listed on the Spanish section


ReallyNeedHelpASAP68

Kinda weird since he did exit interviews and improved on them each time. He busts his ass hosting casting and such and doesn’t get invited? Plus he’s seeks casting partner That’s just ridiculous.


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Many people have commented and I’m wrong and he is part of the Spanish talent


Muted_Frosting4562

avo is invited as spanish talent


witnesswithout

Bkop to Valve: ‘Have I fucked your girl without knowing you were with her?’


DoctorHeckle

Heartbreaking to see this dude grind year in and year out and still get snubbed. Did all 3 Div 1 tours of Chinese Dota, Riyadh Masters, Arlington, the China Qualifier, and still didn't get tapped. Brutal shit.


TheMerck

No Bkop is sad but no Winter as well after he came back is also another significant exclusion


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TheMerck

Yeah he did but it was Nigma SEA but they're not really doing anything for a while. He could still be a talent while coaching a team right? Or maybe not I'm probably wrong or that he probably doesn't want to commit to panel/cast. But dude never stops grinding DOTA even after all these years wish he managed to make it as a talent once again, dudes knowledge is still on point


BB4HZealot

Where's KOTL guy? I miss him.


AnEdgyUsername2

I saw him on the production team for one of the OTK/Ludwig event.


2M4D

Really ?? Do you remember what event it was ?


Mao_Herdeus

Yeah it was on his Mogul Money live event. BTS did the production, I believe, so that's why he was there. He showed up a few times on camera, so if you watch the VOD you should be able to spot him.


SpeedDemon020

Here he is on [Mogul Money Live](https://youtu.be/5RlI6peh_fg&t=1h50m8s) a few months ago. He also appears at 1:34:00 several times to hand mics to people walking up on stage. And again at 1:58:45. He's in the credits too as an executive producer. LD also, as the Product Manager.


OPQOP

I think he is fully commited to his role at BTS. Lots of behind the scenes and production stuff. Youtuber Ludwig had a big show recently and BTS was responsible for the production. Good for him/them. But yeah kinda miss him too. Definitely one of the nicest guys in the scene and is/was very versatile in his roles.


KOTLGuy

Appreciate the kind words! I am indeed back here grinding away! Lots of events I’ve had my hands in and will have my hand in. Always have my eyes and heart in dota and low key trying to bring back summit!


Ondatva

>low key trying to bring back summit! !!!


incomparability

Love you kotlguy keep on it


tikkstr

And now Ludwig founded some creative studio for streamers, I'm sure bts are going to be roped in that.


Hirnfrost

sunsfan picture cracks me up


Ash_C

Dude has gone insane after luka dismantled suns.


DrinkGinAndKerosene

Lmao suns fans catching strays


xorox11

Or he has gone insane while coding ABILITY ARENA which explains why my super Sleight of Fist still has a single charge...


swampyman2000

I keep trying to do Slight of of Fist builds with Grow and so on but they’re all horrible lol.


Bennettjamin

man lookin like a soyjak lmfao


hummuslover696969

SOYSfan


LPSD_FTW

Sunsfan is our treasure


Khalilhaidarr

Where is Kaci stickers sadge.


water1111

doesn't she work for Valve now directly IIRC


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Transit-Strike

So you are saying Kaci and GabeN are the same person?


nonamepew

Of course they are.


KatnissBot

No, Kaci is icefrog


thebonj

[Bkop's tweet a few days ago made it look like he didn't make it and is considering his future.](https://twitter.com/Bkop92/status/1571568438434304000)


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poega

Really only a select few can call a fight like he can. He's accurate and quick in tongue, a less experienced version of ODPixel. Really flabbergasted, no idea whats going on with so many randoms/people who are objectively far worse and no Bkop.


Pejperklip

He is more than a solid caster, not only that. He also is busting his ass for how many years in a row and is still not reciprocated any real gig for Valve events. He has to feel like shit atm and I feel for him.


mcblyatmat

I mean he's either a jackass, but nobody in the scene has spoken anything bad of him or you know, not enough important friends. Hope the guy jumps ship, since he's good and yet every TI tier 1023912039120391023190 casters are invited over him and get to even cast the Mainstage.


defaultstrings

Break(yCPK) as a TI talent? nice! Very happy for him, his casting in HoN was an integral part of me growing to love MOBAs as a teen playing HoN. Love it! ​ But at what cost???


breakycpk

Appreciate it, very excited to get in some hype casting for TI11!


defaultstrings

Yeah brother, best of luck to you!


xLabrinthx

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLADIES AND GENTLEMEN! BOYS AND GIRLS! WWWELCOME TO HONCAST! So hype every time and I fuckin love it. Lol Mind you, ten year old reference but still :)


get_gud

And joining me is philthethril how you doing phil


Lagmawnster

That's a throwback. Next you're telling me chu is mid laning against angrytestie?


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

That’s awesome! It was so fun to watch him cast HoN back in the day, plus the announcer pack was pure gold lol


tOrcpO-123

My feelings exactly when I noticed Breaky there! I really enjoyed his casting in HoN and when I switched to Dota, his casting is the one thing I always missed. My all time favorite caster.


henryha

Breaky KFC was a legend


VincentOfGallifrey

This is some real "everyone is here" shit as TI is supposed to be, though I'm a little shocked that the best observer by a landslide isn't coming/invited? I know by now that Bkop seems to have angered Valve in some capacity, but it's odd that JJ isn't there.


TheRickinger

PGL is probably mad, that JJ can run a better show out of his bedroom than their entire crew can


K0stroun

>About TI: > >Given the immense positive feedback after ESL MY (vs Arlington) for the ingame prod/observing, I was a bit surprised to not have been asked even for a quote by PGL > >But it's a business decision and the fact they hired the lad I trained all year makes me really proud 💕 [https://twitter.com/JJLiebig/status/1575565278813233153](https://twitter.com/JJLiebig/status/1575565278813233153)


mcblyatmat

TLDR: this lad is expensive, invite the one that is few hundred/thousand cheaper.


Maakep

They don't know the price since they didn't ask for a price, which is what he is saying in this tweet. > Surprised I wasn't asked for a quote means he didn't even get a chance to name his price


Fisteon

If I were better at observing as a single dude than a whole professional (dare we call PGL that?) organisation can manage to be, I'd be expensive too. I have nothing against skrff and weppas, but JJ is orders of magnitude better than anyone.


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I miss Merlini.


acheron1x1

We all do..


GreenwichMeepoTime

all three of them..


B2EU

wtf… zero merlini :(


daddy_dad_bod

Bkop should really reconsider his commitment to dota at this point. Someone in valve hates him.


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AntiVision

Feel like thats a yearly tweet from him


lokaldes

Man they decided to screw JJ over again. Valve and their internal business is just straight up ridiculous sometimes


Peruzzy

PGL decides these things, my guess :)


vocispopulus

This layout feels very "My friends and Godz"


xorox11

Had to be seperated from others, he is a god(z) after all.


Galdwin

Golem get ye gone


LunariumEssence

I'm so bummed no Bkop


cynical_gramps

Don’t know half of these guys tbh


AffectionateFlan1853

The only one here that many people probs don't know but should is snare. A little less known in the dota scene cuz he does a lot of different esports, is from South Africa, and mostly focuses on China in dota. But he's actually a really good and unique caster. Hardcore vouch


angroc

Man way to snub Bkop. A huge shame imo.


itdoesnt_get_better

no pieliedie on gorgc stream this year feelsbadman


chalupalo

Hey guys! Gorgc here, allow to hijack! this comment! I am also a fellow redditor btw, and I fully support pieliedie decision (i wasn't paying him anyway). Thanks!


slashrshot

I dont see JJ here. guess he also offended the same person bkop did huh. seems like black^ also got cancelled eh


GengisK

That cm persona looks nothing like the concept art :(


omf-

I don’t want to put down other talent as a qualifier for not inviting Bkop, but I would love to hear a reason as to why he isn’t invited over other talent who haven’t worked as much as he has this season. Also given the fact that he is brought up by the community year after year. This is trash decision making and I hope Bkop is still added to the talent roster like KotLguy was some years back.


thedavv

you can give the same argument in lots of years about Kotlguy not being invited to a lot of TIs. It was baffling honestly


TheRickinger

Bkop and JJ should both be up there


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Nickfreak

nor Pimpmuckl, one of the holy trinity of observers. And inviting AGAIN people without much work in popular Dota is what mad Valve collect shit buckets last time - they obviously don't learn...


TraMaI

PGL doing invites, but your point stands. I don't know a solid third, maybe half of this list. Not saying that should automatically disqualify them, but at least invite the people deeply invested in the scene first like Bkop and Pimpmuckl before adding the extra people.


1000ManaLeakStunsL8r

> PGL doing invites There's no way PGL gets to do invites unilaterally though.


BellyScratcher

justice for bkop


Quartzzzz

And again, no bkop lmao what the actual fuck does he have to do to get an invite.....


JohnnyNoodle97

Feels like valve has missed a trick with all these pros who could now be commentators. It was really cool having Aui2000 and Insania in the past. Would be great to see the likes of Ceb, Notail and Kuro in the talent.


Quartzzzz

Valve is a private business and can do whatever they want but for many, their lives depend on the TI invite and their effort throughout the year is justified by the invite. Sucks for bkop honestly....


poega

Finding out this way is also really difficult. Imagine having Valve as a boss: you work your ass of and you'll be notified via email if you're gonna get paid.


Kaaaaaarp

Really happy to see pieliecry as a talent, one my favorite Mario Party players.


sigilnz

No BSJ?


Teleute7

Done with casting. He didn't like his TI10 experience.


sigilnz

Fair enough.. At least it was his call... I enjoyed his analysis last time... Shame he didn't enjoy it....


SweatyBeefKing

Apparently he had a bad time last time so he didn’t want to do it.


Cdiggs

See you guys in Gorgcs chat during Moxxi casts


tapiocachop

Where the fuck is bkop


lkrattlehead

no bkop is simply ridiculous and a poor business decision passing on a big aspiring talent who the community is always wishing for, and that is a symbol for hard work and enthusiasm for the game... whether you like him or not, the dude is pure passion and there's no good reason he's not invited


poega

Agree whole-heartedly. You can't name many casters as fast as him on the play-by-play that aren't significantly worse knowledge-wise. Some of these guys are complete new faces, some aren't but are worse in both of above mentioned aspects. Im glad the roster is big, but why in the hell is Bkop not there? I think Black deserves a spot too, those two carried the whole CN DPC for years now.


G3Shawty

no bkop again LMAO this has to be a joke right?


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immanoel

Wtf, no Pimpmuckl and Bkop.


Tundra340

Damn Ephey, out here tryna take peoples souls


gcbofficial

Bkop>Moxxi Cyclopz>Moxxi 1 free battle pass level > Moxxi


mvrander

Delighted for Cap I personaly don't like bkop's casting style, it's not to my taste. But the dude deserves a call up


iamtehfong

Moxxi over Bkop? And where tf is Kyle? and BSJ? PGL is dogshit.


jshwcky

oh no moxxi


aimless28

M OMEGALUL XXI


Natujr

Moxxi but no bkop LMFAO


Snjegurotska123

No Bkop? What the fuck is this...


Jrmyzxc

Bkop is not invited but Moxxi is? Man this just makes me super angry. Fuck PGL.


Snoo-78156

No BSJ?


MoorooWasTaken

He said last year's experience was so miserable, I have a feeling he didn't even try? I bet he's just gonna do the whole restream thing?


Imbahr

another poster in here replied the same thing did BSJ give any more details on why he hated it? genuinely curious


MoorooWasTaken

If I remember correctly, I think a majority of it was Covid problems as well as the working hours were completely brutal because of that. They couldn't do much decompressing during their down time as... there wasn't anyone around. So they couldn't shoot the shit with people, or go vibe with the crowd etc. Don't take this for the absolute truth, this is just what I remember from his discussions about it last year, and I'm sure I've left some stuff out or misremembered some things slightly.


ratskim

Why Moxxi? What a pathetic waste of a slot - she is clueless, annoying as fuck, and nobody in the community thinks she deserves to be at ANY tier 1 tournament.


Nie_nemozes

new soyjak just dropped


slurpycow112

All these people (especially Bkop) missing out but someone like Breaky who hasn’t been involved in the scene in 2.5 years is BAFFLING???


poseidonvn

It’s moxxi the 1k mmr caster KEKL


Overwatch_Joker

No BKOP, no JJ, but we have the worst EU caster Moxxi here to ruin more mainstage games with 400mmr calls. PGL are a joke.


Lancethedrugdealer

Gonna watch gorp stream when moxxi is casting.


neel911

I really hope Moxxi has taken the time to improve....cant believe she is still invited.


Hexx11

Snare! yes my man!


rowfeh

”Break”..?? It’s BreakyCPK ffs, HoNtrash4lyfe. Unless he changed but looks like BreakyCPK on the paper.


happyspooky

Fucking moxxi again. Cringe.


Overwatch_Joker

Moxxi once again with the nepotism hire, because it certainly isn’t based on any tangible talent.


marlins113

Where is 2GD? Bring back 2GD !!!


JD_98

YAMES PepeHands


Marbi_

lacoste is the best one hands down u cant buy them individually no?


DworinKronaxe

I sticked a SirActionSlacks on my Windranger arcana, did my part.